Session Sit In: Treatment of IT Band Syndrome using Manual Methods
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2017
- Welcome back to the Recovery Lab for another episode of Session Sit In!!! So Sorry for the delay in between videos!!! I do have a lot more content coming out soon, including some more Lab Gear Reviews I think you will really like!
In this episode, I tackle that ever pesky case of IT Band syndrome in college soccer player. This can be a difficult injury to treat, especially if you are only using topical treatments, as the pain site and pain source of this injury are very distant from each other. You will see some basic massage, active release, IASTM, Rocktaping, and so much more!!!
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Watching this makes me believe we can prevent most of our injuries by taking time to massage most of our muscles.
agreed
Omg!! This is EXACTLY the cause of my knee pain. Ortho couldn’t find anything wrong with xrays or moving my leg, or pressing down anywhere (since I went when I wasn’t feeling any pain). Always feel it after a run. Figured it out on my own massaging everywhere and started going at my IT band with a roller and after watching this and another video I was shocked that the pain started on my glute. I felt ZERO pain there until I started putting my weight on it with a roller and INSTANT pain shoots down to the side of my knee. I hope these new massages fixes my problem so I can run pain free again!
Been struggling for weeks with this syndrome. Never heard of it. Been running my whole adult life. Watched your video. Followed your guidance. Ran a mile with NO PAIN today. THANK YOU!!!!
YO, your work is very professional and solid man! You are a blessing to those people.
awesome work, i am also a pt and i can say i'm impressed by the depth of your work. Keep it up !
Thank you so much for sharing this video. As a college athlete I’ve been struggling with IT band syndrome for over a year. Every time I thought the issues would be solved it would come haunting back. Now I’ve tried these methods myself and have had a week of zero pain on the outside of my left knee. I can finally walk to schools and use the stairs without excruciating pain. Thank you so much!
I work in exactly the same way, really good to see that in your videos
she's so lucky to have someone as knowledgeable n commuted as u r. My ART chiro wouldn't spend more then 3 min on my it band and only works the it band and not the main culprit areas. wish u were in ny ( westchester co)
yes, she's lucky, sooo is he!
I had pain outside my knee recently which I thought was an IT problem. The stretched on a tennis ball (tfl and glute) for a few days. No help. Saw a PT and she massaged the fascia underneath the fibula and that cured it.
Horrible pain! My massage therapist did this for me and it worked. Good video!
I need you in my life!! Been dealing with this for 5 years. Got a PRP injection in my knee which helped for a couple years, but now it’s in full force again after I started back up running and squaring.
Again, injuections are a band aid. You should get your movement evaluated and start attacking the root!
Great video!! I work on a lot of people with it band issues
Love your videos. Keep it up!
Awesome, thank you for this, i've been in pain for the past week just doing alot of HIIT workouts which has alot of squats and burpees, lunges etc it has irritated the pain, went for jog/run yesterday and today it is just very sore had no idea what it was so very glad i found this we'll do strecthing and use tape for support.
Def go see a local provider and get evaluated! Theres much more to this than stretching and tape. You should be on a corrective exercise training program to address the cause not just the symptoms
THANK YOU SO MUCH! This helped after weeks of pain and nothing would help.
I️ need this! My physical therapist never goes into this much depth. I️ haven’t ran in 1 month!
So sorry to hear that! Look for another therapist who does more manual therapy, and if your PT does, but doesn't have the time (which is common in the insurance model, many times providers want to do more, but are limited because insurance reimbursement is very low) ask if you can pay for additional sessions out of pocket to get more tissue work time!
you mean your PT doesn't put take over your skin? the tape is a joke
Thanks doc for such informative video... keep up the good work u doin... God bless you🙏🏼
First video I have watched and great to see a professional, refreshing view of how to address underlying issues and not just treating the pain point. Will check out some more on your channel. New sub
As an athletic trainer it is refreshing that someone is sharing the correct information. The IT Band rolling make me cringe to my core. Loosening the tensor fasciae latae, quads, glutes and hamstrings will have the most affect on the tissue. Muscle tissue is more responsive to soft tissue modalities, which the tendentious and ligament tissues take a longer time to affect. Thank you for spreading TRUTH!
jsj54 so don't foam roll IT bands?
Filthy Gaming if you look at the anatomy you can roll out your Vastus Lateralis (outer most quadriceps muscle) which happens to be deep too the IT band, so in a sense you will “roll out” your IT band, however this shouldn’t be the reason we foam roll that region, it should be for the quad muscle. This is why sometimes people will get some relief from rolling out the region the lateralis is loosened up. Like I mentioned in my previous comment, the primary muscles to focus on with soft tissue modalities would be the TFL (tensor fasciae latae) and the gluteus maximus, their tendons come together to form a junction point then runs distal to the hip (down the leg) as the IT band. For soft tissue to affect tendon-like tissue it would take a significant amount of force to affect the tissue in a short period of time (I will not claim to know the amount of pressure exactly, but there have been studies I have read that give the amount of pressures and it’s significantly more than can be generated by simply foam rolling). You can target tendons with instrument assisted soft tissue mobilization (IASTM), as long as you have received proper training, knowing how and why you are using this treatment and the current research that is continually coming forth with positive results. Often many practitioners use instruments to aggressively and damage the tissue further prolonging the healing not aiding the process, please be cautious if ever using instruments, but I digress. We need to be more focused in on muscles associated with the pain not just where the pain is located, even though it seems to be our primary concerned at that time. Clinicians with the proper knowledge should know their tissues and how treat them, however like any profession we need to constantly be learning current evidence-based practices to ensure our patients (in my case athletes) are getting the best care possible to return them to sport quickly, and MOST IMPORTANTLY safely.
Thanks for this. I saw some videos recommending rolling the leg across the roller but it snaps the IT band, is very painful and I think counter productive. My own instinct is to roll the hamstring and quad on an angle that displaces the IT band and that is what you are recommending. I have balls and do work the upper glutes but that alone isn't always enough. I am going to do some yoga that will strengthen the glutes ( leg raises from belly down ) because I think that may be part of the problem. Will also lay on my side and raise my legs up and slightly back for the glute medius.
I found I was able to approximate what you were doing by putting my leg on the roller at a slight angle, towards the hamstring or the quad, and then using my arms and hips the move my leg horizontally across the roller lengthways, pulling the IT band away from the muscle. I have to say that it didn't hurt much at all and I do feel a release.
This is gold!
This helped a lot! Appreciate the video and advise
Very Useful.Thank you for share it!
Excellent work .
Great work, im suffering atm. I need someone like you in Sydney Australia.
BIG THUMBS UP!!!!
Makes me wonder how many people just hammer away at the IT band thinking its the way to go and having little to no success? Great video and information.
Thanks so much! Appreciate the support! Stay tuned more coming!
Cool
i think i permantly damaged my knee working through it as a postman
@@themovementunderground2464 how you choose tens points??
Amazing video!!!!
Great Video! How often would you recommend an athlete to go through this detail therapy?
I need this in my life, stat!
come to physical therapist :o)
Thank you this is so informative
I need this really badly because I strained my IT band in my left leg on Thursday.
Hello sir what did you recommend her to do not to suffer again these symptoms. Thank you for the videos...Bless
Thanks for fostering some novel learning today. When working with the glute fibers is it important to work parallel, perpendicular, and diagonal?
Thank you so much for this video. Just had my right knee replacement and the IT band hurts real bad. My therapist addressed the IT band but not that much. So what would you suggest for DIY at home.
I apparently have IT band issues and hip bursitis. I haven't run for about 10 years and I'm 57 years old. All my physio does is give me bridge and side raise exercises to do at home. It's too painful to walk on for more than about 10 minutes and I'm at my wit's end with it.
Thank you
Omg I need this treatment
As a patient I assumed PT is a science but after 3 unsuccessful 6-month sessions to address my ITB issues I've learned no two therapists address ITB the same. I would gladly trade the 30 some stretch and strengthening methods for 3 that would work. I've wasted thousands of dollars and 4 years of my life and still no better.
My ortho couldn’t pinpoint the issue - just said my right knee cartilage (I had a hole under my knee cap) could be ‘catching’ but, would NOT recommend a clean up; just try to rest it and give it a few weeks to recover (same advice as GP). Hobbled around on crutches for 6 weeks (I’m right handed but high jumped left handed when I was a junior). This pain and recovery was 20x worse than my ACL left knee replacement 7 years prior (10 year old Netball injury). Fast forward 4 years to now (51yo; female, White collar job; no regular exercise) and the right knee pain ‘starts up’ again but, this time - 3months prior - I had a locking of my right hip which proceeded it. Hobbled around for two weeks then saw Chiro (for the very first time ever) because I also had recent loss of back m/shoulder flexibility; he had a holistic approach with physio’s and remedial massage staff at hand. I explained the symptoms and history and after an examination and some initial treatment the Chiro suggested it was an IT band issue. Four years ‘in the dark’ now ended🤦🏻♀️. Thanks for the video.
Rolling above and below the IT band & trigger points pressure at the hip - as you had suggested - I was already doing (with weekly Chiro treatment) so, it was good to get that confirmation. After 5 weeks (1 session per week) - immediate after the Chiro session - I feel almost cured but my ‘DYI home treatment (& home yoga)’ was essential to maintain the improvement (going on 9 weeks now). Never AGAIN will I be sedentary again - my body just wont stand for it!🙏🏻
I’m still singing the praise of my Chiro and hope my session will move to ‘maintenance only’ soon. On the bright side, I have benefit in many way from the Chiro sessions; flexibility has returned. I guess I have my IT band issue to thank for that! There is a silver lining after all.
you rock man!
Aprreciate you! You Rock!
How long will it take before she resumes active training
Ran a marathon a month ago and have been barely able to run since because of this issue. Gone to several stretch treatments and nothing has helped.
I am a runner and my marathon training was derailed with horrible hip pain. I saw a sports med doctor who diagnosed me with trochanteric bursitis and IT band syndrome. I had a steriod shot in my hip last week and I start PT in 3 days. Should I expect my therapy to be similar to this? Luckily, my knee feels fine.
very nice, tackel the problem 360,good explanation. subsribed!
Thanks so much!
no
dry neediling?
Oh my, I would love for my IT band to be treated this way
I have the same exact pain at the same spot on my left knee!
Holly Shit Me To In My Left Knee I Use To Work Out By Do Some Morning Running And Yesterday It Was My Last Time Because My Knee Started Hurting So I Decide To Take A Rest
This guy is good. I mean really good. Try doing these things to yourself is tough.
Appreciate you so much!
Amazing video! So helpful thank you 😊
Great content, super informative. The music was a bit too much though. Still, wonderful work.
Please come back
I wish u were in Florida, damn.
Does IT Band strap works, my hurt only comes in 10th mile, can a it band strap stop it ?
where is Mike's practice located?
you are the coolest. شكرا لك ❤❤
So do you mean glute is overworked or not powerful enough hence IT band issues? Can you recommend therapist in Chicago area?
What’s with the gloves?
any PT in the nyc area w this type of expertise... needed badly 😞
I need this so bad!! My gerdy turbercle area looks very swollen when my IT ban flairs up. It is bizarre how my IT band issues come and go. I can be fine for months then overnight it flairs up. Then after suffering for a couple weeks it can go away almoty over night. Is that normal?
Very professional , would love to be treated by you . Where are you located ?
What is the instrument he Is using?
I was their for football
Can I do this Massage myself ?
I have a question, can I perform this massage/treatment for my IT band, I have pain only when I run. I stopped running because of this pain.
it's possible that you need to strengthen your glutes as well.
Mike, if she remained symptomatic, how long would you wait before you used massage/Graston again? Few days?
I would do this treatment 1-2x per week on nonconsecutive days. Few days sounds right, but in between sessions I have her work on some specific strength/stability drills.
Hi Mike.
What kind of massage gel/creme ur using?
I hope u can tell me more about it.
Greets Glenn
ItsBiotone Dual Purpose Massage Creme
This was awesome! I have IT band issues stemming from a broken femur 10 months ago.I've been to therapy but nothing like what you are doing. Find me someone in St Louis to help me...LOL
Hi, I have pain in my right side of knee while walking and Driving and also in right side of my hip of right leg. Continuously Standing and walking is part of my job .Any suggestions?
Pain is a crappy biomarker for hats wrong. Without an assessment I'd be just guessing and doing you a disservice. Go seek an evaluation by a professional is my best advice! Good Luck!
Well done! Curious why this isn’t the treatment in Switzerland or Scotland- as a cyclist it’s precisely what I need! Thanks!
Did your IT band pain go away? im a cyclist as well, this pain has kept me grounded for months now.
another great video !!
I've been writing before, but to sum up I'm a sports massage therapist, and one thing I have always wondered about are how you feel for scar tissue ? I mean, how does it feel to the therapist. can you describe specifically how it feels and how you feel for it. perhaps a link where I can read about this ?
cheers ! once again great video !
Kevin Schmidt there are several types of scar tissue but the majority you will run into during massage or deep tissue work will feel like a really lumpy string of yarn wrapped in a layer of cellophane, if you single the tissue out and apply gentle force you can actually feel it crunch and crinkle like cellophane.
how do you reduce scar tissue? my ITband is so lumpy and bumpy
If you were around when I was younger, I would have ended up staying in the industry and probably going back to school for sports medicine.
no time like the present!
From Houston, TX here. I've seen 2 different chiropractors who did different things. I just started with a physical therapist but they are mostly talking about strengthening weak muscles. They also can do dry needling. My point is I don't see any of them providing this kind of treatment. I really think it should be essential for this type of injury. How can I search out this specific treatment in my area?
Just keep searching, scheduling evaluations and keep in mind that there are sooooooo many different approaches to similar injuries/issues. The reality is if anything worked 100% of the time, we would all do the same things. Ask ciritcal questions of your providers...If it sounds like they are BSing you, or unsure...its because they are and its time to find someone else.! Hope this helps! Good luck!
Brother I hope you see this and respond. I'm having this issue right now. Except for the itb rubbing over the epicondyl it is rubbing over the fibial head during my low squat (only when it passes 90*). Would this type of treatment help out in my case? (Long shot without you being able to look at it I know) I went to my fathers PTherapist and she was astounded and videotaped it because it was so pronounced. Said she's never seen anything like it.
The Doc I have the same issue! it pops over the bone when it deep squats or pressure on my knee and i have to straighten my leg to get it in correct position again. Ive been doing PT and working on stretching and hip strengthen exerices and it has helped. but my itband is still so lumpy withh adhesions by my knee so I feel like it will come back. 😞
Ally G well I have an update for you Ally, I've found it isn't the IT band that's "popping" over the fibula head, it is the Lateral Co lateral ligament. Or the LCL. I have had serious ankle sprains over the years and it has caused my lateral malleolus to become loose. Aka torn ligaments. I had my fibula head and malleolus "re set. As well as my knee. As long as I can keep it "in place" it doesn't pop over anymore! The way I pop it on my own is planting my foot and turning outwardly with my shin. Which gives a nice pop in the rear of my ankle. Or if I need to set my knee I plant my foot and my shin and turn outwardly which re sets everything in line with my ankle! Definitely won't be getting an ankle fusion surgery as long as I'm able to do this. Hope you get better!!
This girl is tough. This hurts like nothing else. My goodness.
Is this mechanic shop ?
What about pain when knee is in flexion?
This whole video is addressing the knee pain. He is correcting the main cause of why her knee is tight. It starts at the hip with the IT band
Man I wish you were in Canada. Are you a massage therapist? My Massage therapist is nothing like this.
how often should something like this be done? is this a once/twice a week type of thing? anyone know?
I generally recommend 1-2x per week depending on severity, activity level, etc. but The corrective program, and training should be done everyday.
Can the athlete keep running and training between the therapies? Or the athlete should rest for recovery?
It depends on the case! I try to keep my athletes on the field with the understanding that rest doesnt necessarily fix anything. In cases where additional stress to the area is risking worsening of injury or symptoms, then I will have them rest! In most cases, I am able to help athletes recovery while they continue to train and participate in their sport. Its all about dosing treatment, training, and sport effectively
I got this exact same condition. Pain on on the side near the cap which only comes on when I run. Is there a self treatment for this?
Do u have a knife ?
Way to slap the knee, "let's get started"🤣
sir my problem is same . i am from india so how to possible
My hurt outside and inside
Does anybody know the title of background music from 12:02 - 13:42? If yes, can you please share?
Footy Rai i been asking about it too but haven’t gotten an answer. I hear it used on another channel so maybe it’s a standard RUclips instrumental or maybe both channels use the same editing software...?? I can’t get enough of it tho
Where should I ice, for IT band syndrome?
No where.. Ice sucks
Where can I learn a good scraping technique? I'm an LMT but don't have much knowledge when it comes to scraping.
There are a lot of great courses on IASTM. I really like the RockTape Blades courses, as they encompass so much more than just how to treat each area.
soccer,i cannot play till i get my ITB fixed.Its funny because i can walk well but i once i run,i unleash hell onto my knee
I have had itband syndrome for like 4 years.
Can you help me I’m in Virginia. Would really like to talk with you about my situation.
#09:05 hey mate, why are you rotating in this direction.... not sure... i'll go rotating inwards to massage M. piriformis ... so... just asking, would be cool to check here later, finding a reply :o)
I work in Germany, made Ba. in NL... i would like to level up a bit more.
I rotate in both directions usually. Remember a lot of what we do with soft tissue is neurological change so we dont have to be lazer specific. the key is pressure, and movement, finding the right combo of both is what matters.. try not to get caught in the minutia
Hi, for massage u used vaseline or another oil?
Dude looks like The Punisher lol
You put your contaminated gloves into that full far of cream!
Stop crying
Where are you located?
Hey Diana!!!! Recovery Lab is located in Syosset, NY!!! Visit me online ampathletes.com/recoverylab
100%👍respect...👊
IT band tide...hips not working.... one day hip replacement....bingo
Muscle by Muscle,step by step....IT band tide, condition Achilles ,🤔?just think what can happen if ankle biomechanics not used completely...👣🏥take easy take time and cheek muscles on time...👊👣trigger points, knots....take time find real specialist who understand how body functions...dynamic inflammation, nutrition ....👣🤔👣
I'm an Acupuncturist and I gotta tell you - your dzmn good st what you do-
Are u a Chiro
Arthritis excirse
Arthritis excirse
Want to try again?
She enjoying that shyt
16:00 is when the stupidity begins, sounds really smart and good with the word salad for the massage but then the quack in him comes out when he starts applying tape to the girl
Explain? Otherwise you just sound like a jealous quack.
John Ames what did he say that was stupid?
Great video, annoying music though 🙄
what the f are the gloves for man??? this is physical therapy not invasive medical procedure... ART is great for muscle... Im glad you said there is no such thing as tight ITB, and it takes 2 tonnes of pressure to make any physiological change to ITB tissue... so yeah, don't work on the ITB directly... Nice work man... patient defo benefits
Music ruined this video for me.. you had me full bore but around 9 min the music began and ruined my concentration...