Copper is more common but its less useful so you tend to ignore it or dump it out in favor of other ores which results in you never having enough copper to actually do anything with.
@@loganalbertsIts not about the copper being common,its about the Door,Trapdoor recipe which doesn't makes sense at all! Edit:Or they should make the iron door,trapdoor recipe same to the copper,Agree?
Copper is SOOOOO common though. I've never gone looking for it and I have chests and chests of it just from mining for other things. Also, you definitely should go to fancy places and strip them of copper. If anyone is going let me know I have a pickup truck and trailer.
I think changing this to either copper ingots or cut copper would fix this issue right up. Although it is a common ore atm so it's not as bad as it seems. I build with copper for every roof I have, and I still have stacks upon stacks of unused copper blocks from just mining. You get a full stack, at least, from one vein even before fortune plus find yourself a large ore vein and that's all your copper needs for the rest of your life.
Honestly, how often will you use copper doors or trapdoors? They're good for decoration and whatnot but honestly I'm just glad there's something I can use my copper for 😂
@thekingofnothing8895 Oh believe me, I'll be using them a lot. I'm a big fan of water stream pipes to move items around my storage systems and they look so perfect for that functionality in combination with acacia trapdoors too.
Ah yes this crafting recipe is perfectly logical. Steve must really enjoy eating copper so even though 1/2 a cubic meter of copper would be enough for both trapdoors he requires the other 5 1/2 as sustenance.
Any kind of stairs are the dumbest recipe. The recipe shows 3 steps when there are only 2, and each stair is 3 quarters of a block so in theory it should be 3 blocks in a staircase shape. Then they can change the stonecutter to give 2 stairs so it’s still advantageous
This is where I say it's a stretch, because Mojang could've done this on purpose considering 1 of 2 things: 1. Copper is fairly common to get in caves than any other ore right now and 2. It is a soft metal (much weaker than iron itself.) Could be both reasons for all we know, but it would definitely show scientific accuracy for us to use copper blocks to craft things like a copper door or trap door.
shoot, according to the wiki you can up to 20 raw copper with fortune. which is up to 2.25 blocks per ore and times that per stack of ore(64*2.25) which is up to 144 copper blocks giving you up to 48 copper trap doors per stack of ore. Mind you this is all a high ball if you managed to get 20 raw ore for each ore mined.
Arguably no. Because the max you can drop is 20, but the average is 7.7 which is under 1 block of copper. Meaning you’re getting less than with an iron ore for each block you mine.
Go to your local 5 star restorant and open their walls, you will find these shiny "copper wires" inside and if you mine the raw material from their walls then you should mine the wood of their floorboards as it is also a raw material and under the wood you shall find all sorts of pipes, once you have collected all the raw materials you can sell them for big bucks as metals are valuable and wood is even more valuable in the modern day
I believe it was done this way so you could craft any of the oxidized doors/trapdoors, though personally I wouldn't mind if we had to let our builds age to get them like with other copper blocks.
Copper is the most common ore and you get 2-5 ingots per block. But it does fill up your inventory quickly and it's still wierd how 6 blocks turn into 2 1/8 a block. So I would change the recepe and make copper less common. Let's be honest. You don't need that much copper.
The Minecraft copper economy is getting similar to that of real life. Step one, go to an old building that is abandoned. Step two, collect all the copper piping and electrical work from said building to profit off of. Step three, rinse and repeat.
Crafting them out of copper blocks also doesn’t really makes sense because of the different oxidisation stages. Do you need all 6 of one stage to get that stage of door? Or can copper doors exclusively be crafted with fresh copper? The recipes need to use ingots to avoid all of that confusion.
Copper is needed in blocks, that is logical not only because how common it is, copper is weak and in real life is used for wires. That means it is weak, so copper is needed to be made strong by increasing its density.
I honestly do not have a problem with the crafting recipe for the copper, because I always have a ridiculous amount of copper compared to anything else I get while mining so it seems reasonable to me
It doesn’t make sense to have Copper be 3x more common than Iron just to turn around and make everything 9x more expensive to use. Copper is intended to be used as a building material where there is no such expectation for Iron. The recipe for both Iron and Copper Doors and Trap Doors should both be Ingots. Also, we should be getting 6 Trap Doors per craft instead of two. This should apply to ALL Trap Door variants. The current recipes don’t make sense.
It might spawn super frequent but the simple concept is why not make it standard like how other blocks similar to it behave? People say they want more use of copper but this won't work if you need to do double for the same thing
My problem with the recipe is that you have to smelt all of the copper. That's 7 pieces of coal for 2 trapdoors, which is absolutely unachievable in large scales for most casual players. The copper isn't the problem- there is so much underground- the smelting is.
@@benstevens44With 1 iron ingot, 1 flint, a water bucket and a lava bucket someone can have access to pretty much infinite lava in the Nether. No need for bamboo farms
Honestly while these crafting recipes are insane, copper is also so common that I bet you overlook it at least 80% of the time when not making a copper build.
Yea but you usually have a hundred times more copper than any other material to the point where you don't even worry about mining it because you have an abundance of it so if you really think about it it kind of equals out if you think about supply and demand aspect of it
Yes, I know it's common... But guys, I want to spend it for building... It's ok if it's balanced like this, but it wouldn't be so bad if it was cheaper.
Well I can find copper before coal so if anyone thinks about what that means it means copper is the second door material after wood which makes iron the third
I would have never have realized this granted copper is freaking everywhere so won't be hard to get but I think it should get fixed also wooded ones should be 4 slabs
Personally I prefer 4 blocks of copper in the recipe Not because the actual recipe is expensive Because you use 4 ingots to craft an iron trapdoor So it makes sense to use 4 blocks of copper in the recipe
The one thing you forgot is that while iron and other ores give you maybe five or something drops with fortune three per mined block, copper gives you like 9 or something, per mined block. (Roughly. I’m not gonna visit google or whatever to meticulously spoon feed you details on how redundant this complaint is) Like if you find an actual copper vein, so not just a clump of ores, and you have fortune three, you basically need a whole new second inventory if you intend to keep mining and take it all with you too. Just a decent clump with fortune three is enough to clog multiple slots. Even just an unenchanted pickaxe can get you a suitable amount with just a few patches. Copper is in all actuality one of the most common ores in the entire game to the point of being genuinely excessive. Ergo I have literally no freaking idea why people are mad over this. The only time this WOULD be a problem is if you needed to build like forty something copper trapdoors. I feel like people are deliberately looking for reasons to give Mojang complaints with this one, and I will not be easy to convince that this is a legitimate problem the greater player base will find. THEY GENERATE IN TRIAL CHAMBERS NATURALLY!!!
I’ve been playing in my world for no more than prob a week and have prob accumulated about 10 or so stacks of copper, it’s so common I can’t even be mad at it.
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It's an efficient way to dispose of all the 278 raw copper you have for no reason in your Minecraft base
All 278 blocks of raw ore.
@@LBibeauB24 true lol
More like 278,000. I don't think I've ever made a build that actually uses copper blocks so it just builds up
Admit it copper is more common than coal .
Maybe, that depends on your biome and Y level, but yes it is very common and drops multiple from one ore
Esp with fortune 3
Yeah but it still doesn't make sense xd
Copper is more common but its less useful so you tend to ignore it or dump it out in favor of other ores which results in you never having enough copper to actually do anything with.
@@loganalbertsIts not about the copper being common,its about the Door,Trapdoor recipe which doesn't makes sense at all!
Edit:Or they should make the iron door,trapdoor recipe same to the copper,Agree?
Having an oxidized copper trapdoor is going to be a huge flex.
“I’m rich, and I’ve been rich for a long time”
Being rich in copper is like being rich in monopoly money
@@tunnelsnake420it depends really. With copper you can actually build unlike diamond
@@deutschermichel5807Diamond thrones are very fashionable if done right
@@woolpiehd2003 Is it common for Miners to build thrones? Do you put them into castles or palasts?
@@deutschermichel5807 the villagers need to know their place
Copper is SOOOOO common though. I've never gone looking for it and I have chests and chests of it just from mining for other things. Also, you definitely should go to fancy places and strip them of copper. If anyone is going let me know I have a pickup truck and trailer.
Yes, but this is still kinda ridiculous. It's like arguing that 6 cobble to make 4 cobble stairs is fine because cobble is super abundant.
Tedious work to be honest with you
Lol😂
It's also farmable like iron there's no reason to complain lmao
I wouldn’t say that it’s 14x as common though
I think changing this to either copper ingots or cut copper would fix this issue right up. Although it is a common ore atm so it's not as bad as it seems. I build with copper for every roof I have, and I still have stacks upon stacks of unused copper blocks from just mining. You get a full stack, at least, from one vein even before fortune plus find yourself a large ore vein and that's all your copper needs for the rest of your life.
Honestly, how often will you use copper doors or trapdoors? They're good for decoration and whatnot but honestly I'm just glad there's something I can use my copper for 😂
@thekingofnothing8895 Oh believe me, I'll be using them a lot. I'm a big fan of water stream pipes to move items around my storage systems and they look so perfect for that functionality in combination with acacia trapdoors too.
You wanted a copper sink, you get a COPPER SINK
Ah yes this crafting recipe is perfectly logical. Steve must really enjoy eating copper so even though 1/2 a cubic meter of copper would be enough for both trapdoors he requires the other 5 1/2 as sustenance.
Any kind of stairs are the dumbest recipe. The recipe shows 3 steps when there are only 2, and each stair is 3 quarters of a block so in theory it should be 3 blocks in a staircase shape.
Then they can change the stonecutter to give 2 stairs so it’s still advantageous
Or they should make it so stairs require 3 items to craft
@@7232_yoyoThats what he said
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@@thatguy7683 got that crafter riz
Slabs have a similar issue where the crafting recipe is one third of a block but when placed it is one half.
This is where I say it's a stretch, because Mojang could've done this on purpose considering 1 of 2 things: 1. Copper is fairly common to get in caves than any other ore right now and 2. It is a soft metal (much weaker than iron itself.) Could be both reasons for all we know, but it would definitely show scientific accuracy for us to use copper blocks to craft things like a copper door or trap door.
Oooh that's why I need 54 copper ingots just for 2 trapdoors, but if 6 glass yields 16 glass panes, then why not do the same for doors and trapdoors?
Me with fortune: “you guys think that’s expensive?”
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For reference: you can get like a stack of copper blocks from one stack of ore blocks.
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shoot, according to the wiki you can up to 20 raw copper with fortune. which is up to 2.25 blocks per ore and times that per stack of ore(64*2.25) which is up to 144 copper blocks giving you up to 48 copper trap doors per stack of ore. Mind you this is all a high ball if you managed to get 20 raw ore for each ore mined.
Definitely super balanced in my opinion because of the amount they spawn in the caves.
No it isn't
I know you're right but i don't want you to be right. no it isn't
@@beetle8209i feel the same, they may be balanced but the ocd it generates just because of not being crafted like iron is way too strong
I came here to say this.
Arguably no. Because the max you can drop is 20, but the average is 7.7 which is under 1 block of copper. Meaning you’re getting less than with an iron ore for each block you mine.
Go to your local 5 star restorant and open their walls, you will find these shiny "copper wires" inside and if you mine the raw material from their walls then you should mine the wood of their floorboards as it is also a raw material and under the wood you shall find all sorts of pipes, once you have collected all the raw materials you can sell them for big bucks as metals are valuable and wood is even more valuable in the modern day
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I mean, with how much copper spawns and the fact that you usually get more than one ingot from it, I don’t think it’ll be that bad
Copper is like finding screws in metal detecting
Please almighty crafting table. Smite my unneeded amounts of copper.
Wait until mojang makes the iron trapdoor cost the same as the copper one
please no iron is to rare😂😂😂
I believe it was done this way so you could craft any of the oxidized doors/trapdoors, though personally I wouldn't mind if we had to let our builds age to get them like with other copper blocks.
I have so much copper anyway. I'm fine, uses it all up.
You can find copper absolutely everywhere, and it really doesn’t have any other use(other than a spyglass and lightning rod,(beat you too it)).
Copper is the most common ore and you get 2-5 ingots per block. But it does fill up your inventory quickly and it's still wierd how 6 blocks turn into 2 1/8 a block.
So I would change the recepe and make copper less common. Let's be honest. You don't need that much copper.
Very well balanced because you can open these copper doors with you’re hand and don’t need red stone or levers 😊
The Minecraft copper economy is getting similar to that of real life. Step one, go to an old building that is abandoned. Step two, collect all the copper piping and electrical work from said building to profit off of. Step three, rinse and repeat.
If Mojang doesnt change the recipe, I rather strip all copper and teardown whole trial chambers.
The reasoning for using the blocks is so you can craft the oxidized variants as well... but its STILL the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
People about to steal the Statue of Liberty to get those Oxidized Copper blocks
Crafting them out of copper blocks also doesn’t really makes sense because of the different oxidisation stages. Do you need all 6 of one stage to get that stage of door? Or can copper doors exclusively be crafted with fresh copper? The recipes need to use ingots to avoid all of that confusion.
IDK if this recipe was ever in Bedrock, but until 1.12, you could craft a block of white wool with a piece of bone meal and a block of white wool
Mojang is making Minecraft a gypsy simulator
I didnt even know there *was* a copper trap door recipe
Minecraft turning kids into crackheads. Next they'll have a crafting recipe made out of catalytic converters smh.
Striping things for stuff is a lot of Minecraft for me.
Copper is needed in blocks, that is logical not only because how common it is, copper is weak and in real life is used for wires. That means it is weak, so copper is needed to be made strong by increasing its density.
First of all, I'm pretty sure it's made out of copper blocks for the variants.
Secondly, copper is extremely common.
I love learning how to steal in Minecraft
But there's so much of copper, it's absolutely everywhere lol
I honestly do not have a problem with the crafting recipe for the copper, because I always have a ridiculous amount of copper compared to anything else I get while mining so it seems reasonable to me
It doesn’t make sense to have Copper be 3x more common than Iron just to turn around and make everything 9x more expensive to use. Copper is intended to be used as a building material where there is no such expectation for Iron. The recipe for both Iron and Copper Doors and Trap Doors should both be Ingots.
Also, we should be getting 6 Trap Doors per craft instead of two. This should apply to ALL Trap Door variants. The current recipes don’t make sense.
It might spawn super frequent but the simple concept is why not make it standard like how other blocks similar to it behave? People say they want more use of copper but this won't work if you need to do double for the same thing
Yeah, I have like 4 chests full of unsmelted copper because it's everywhere
If I mined every block of copper ore from a small cave I’d have a inventory full of copper
At least there are more uses for copper now
My problem with the recipe is that you have to smelt all of the copper. That's 7 pieces of coal for 2 trapdoors, which is absolutely unachievable in large scales for most casual players. The copper isn't the problem- there is so much underground- the smelting is.
Lava bucket.
@@mrteapot03 There are still people who don't just farm infinite bamboo supplies to smelt with?
@@benstevens44With 1 iron ingot, 1 flint, a water bucket and a lava bucket someone can have access to pretty much infinite lava in the Nether. No need for bamboo farms
Mojang forgot ingots exist 💀
Honestly while these crafting recipes are insane, copper is also so common that I bet you overlook it at least 80% of the time when not making a copper build.
Mojang probably gonna nerf it to just 6 copper ingots or 4 blocks or something
While still farmable, it's far more troublesome to. Iron has golems with a minimum of 3.
Copper has Drowned with a rare chance.
the wooden one too it should give you 12 trap doors instead of only 2 since they're half the size of wood planks
Hilarious ending lol
I would say the recipe is fine considering the absurd amount of copper in the trial chambers
Copper is about as common as the stone variants BUT using blocks instead of ingots makes it a little egregious
I mean, whenever I go for a mining trip in search of iron, I always end up with like 3 or 4 stacks of copper that has no use
Thers's copper everywhere, and tons of it.
They should bring back the 2x2 for copper
instead of making new structures enticing and fun to go into they decide to make any new features require it for no reason, great job mojang.
Yea but you usually have a hundred times more copper than any other material to the point where you don't even worry about mining it because you have an abundance of it so if you really think about it it kind of equals out if you think about supply and demand aspect of it
I have to much copper cause it is so common. I think this Is a good idea
With fortune III you get 1-4 iron ore and 2-20 copper ore from a single block. they are not the same.
(Without fortune, 1-2 for iron, 2-5 for copper)
Bold of you to assume that we won't treat it like our ocean temples and trail ruins regardless if it's fixed or not
Yes, I know it's common... But guys, I want to spend it for building... It's ok if it's balanced like this, but it wouldn't be so bad if it was cheaper.
Well I can find copper before coal so if anyone thinks about what that means it means copper is the second door material after wood which makes iron the third
I dont think it matters that copper is "common" it is still a limited resource, and this break convention of metal
they should use the ignots instead
He made such a big deal out of it just for the comments section to completely humble him lmfao
I mean copper is a little too common than it's needed
Fun fact: 8 iron can make only 2 trapdoors
while 6 copper can make 2 trapdoors.
I tried to do a balanced mod for more tools coudnt get the copper to be balanced ya coud make 20 pickaxes from a good sized vein
Oh wow, hope they fix this. Very expensive
A simple data pack will fix that nice and easy.
I mean you find copper literally everywhere. You can easily get stacks upon stacks of the stuff with even just a fortune 1 pick.
Copper is more common than coal and with fortune 3, you can get up to 6 pieces per ore.
Love the sarcasm
Yeah it should be in line with the iron equivalents
I got a stack of coppers from mining one or two ore with myfortune pick
Well it makes sense to me because I can get a full double chest of copper with a fortune 3 pickaxe within 15 minutes of mining.
Honestly I think they just forgot copper ingots existed
I’M SORRY, THE IRON TRAPDOOR COSTS 4 IRON NOT 6!?!?!?
Im pretty sure that wont be a problem since you get like 2 stacks of copper with a single vein
I would have never have realized this granted copper is freaking everywhere so won't be hard to get but I think it should get fixed also wooded ones should be 4 slabs
I want copper to work with redstone because... Well... Copper is conductive.. isnt it?
i mean, you SHOULD be stripping copper. GANG SCRAP
I mostly play in creative since I suck at survival mode so I have no problems with the crafting
Personally I prefer 4 blocks of copper in the recipe
Not because the actual recipe is expensive
Because you use 4 ingots to craft an iron trapdoor
So it makes sense to use 4 blocks of copper in the recipe
Copper is way to common for this to be expensive or broken.
NAH BRO~
THE COPPER BLOCK MADE THE LONGEST BLOCK NAME IN HISTORY
The one thing you forgot is that while iron and other ores give you maybe five or something drops with fortune three per mined block, copper gives you like 9 or something, per mined block. (Roughly. I’m not gonna visit google or whatever to meticulously spoon feed you details on how redundant this complaint is)
Like if you find an actual copper vein, so not just a clump of ores, and you have fortune three, you basically need a whole new second inventory if you intend to keep mining and take it all with you too. Just a decent clump with fortune three is enough to clog multiple slots. Even just an unenchanted pickaxe can get you a suitable amount with just a few patches.
Copper is in all actuality one of the most common ores in the entire game to the point of being genuinely excessive. Ergo I have literally no freaking idea why people are mad over this. The only time this WOULD be a problem is if you needed to build like forty something copper trapdoors.
I feel like people are deliberately looking for reasons to give Mojang complaints with this one, and I will not be easy to convince that this is a legitimate problem the greater player base will find.
THEY GENERATE IN TRIAL CHAMBERS NATURALLY!!!
I’ve been playing in my world for no more than prob a week and have prob accumulated about 10 or so stacks of copper, it’s so common I can’t even be mad at it.
Look, I get that copper is probably the single most common ore in the game, but even so, this recipe is still way too expensive by comparison.
Is ToyCat in his evil arc lol?
I agree, that is totally weird!
To be fair one can get so much copper but it has very little use besides decoration
I mean like, if I mine it all the time, I would get STACKS of it soon it's not so bad.
Copper is the most common Ore
it should be changed but if they dont it is a weird early game flex
Mirrors edge background music goes hard
Copper is everywhere and I tend to have too much
Yall haven't been jonesing to make stuff out off all this extra copper we got laying around?
You get 5 full stacks of copper from one vein tho
But copper is everywhere
Is that Harrison robbing the fancy restaurant for copper? Come on, Toycat, we all know he’d be driving your getaway car… 😏
i dont even use copper, never even used a brush or cared for the archeology 🤷♂️