The first Samurai who Mariko ordered to kill the two is such a badass! one..two..three efficient strikes resulting in two instant deaths. And the way he cleaned his sword off of blood was badass too! Definitely the Boba Fett of the scene. lol
Trying to leave the castle was probably the most badass scenes in movie history. The formality to it all, the respect, and the accepting of one's fate. Pretty incredible. And the way she stood there, right in the middle of it all, no fear. Priceless. Then to top it off, they give us a REALISTIC fight scene with a female. No girl power, no mystical change into a female Musashi Miyamoto. She tried her best against superior numbers, cut one guy - not a kill, and the rest played defense especially since they were under orders not to kill her.
@@buzzcutseason142 Because if Disney had done the series themselves she would have slaughtered all of those guards without help from 'any man' and cleared the way to the exit. Hence 'girl boss' comment. A guy would have failed also but would have died trying. Mariko's way, and Toranaga's also presumably, just drives home the cultural subtleties in the set up of the situation. Superb episode overall.
@@alexandermarquardt597the show did move me almost to tears, but yeah, the book scene DID move me to tears. I like the book scene more because it is more epic, as she sent out a few waves of men, each in a group of ten to lead the way, before she herself fought one man. But the scene from the show is still great, albeit more concise.
What action scenes. It's a joke. They promised Crimson Sky with cannons blasting and storm the castle 🏰 awesomeness and all we get is this? It's false marketing.
Not being a bitch by saying this, but she had complete power by the end. She knew what to do, what it likely would result in and followed through. Not any spoilers, but she finally got what she wanted, and for a reason to help her Lord on top of it. She wins..
The kimono, the traditional costume worn in present-day Japan, was completed around the beginning of the 17th century. The drama is set in the second half of the 16th century. Therefore, the design is slightly different from the kimono worn by women in Japan today.
d before dishonor is a very critical part of japanese history, one that they themselves subverted and dismissed in film, but i'm pleased that it is making a return, as it is an authentic and sincere part of that time period and culture, and should not be held in contempt through modern cynical lenses, but by understanding the context and mindset of that period.
Yeah, even though we had never seen any of these particular men on either side before, they did a great job of portraying the human cost of this gambit.
@@wbwilhite She is not humbled. That is just a realistic portrayal of how that particular fight would go. In fact this whole scene elevates Mariko as a character. Notice how even the samurai on her side lose in the fights. They are not supernatural characters. Even the best fighter surrounded by 9 enemies with polearms is nothing but a mouse in a cat's claws. And i honestly like how we get to see that.
Her escorts were the embodiment of Samurai. Skilled. Obedient. Honorable. Not one of them hesitated. Every deviant, scheming, maniacal character was eclipsed by their performance in this scene. This was the only part of the episode I cared to revisit.
The samurai's swordsmanship in the first scene is superb. He first sliced the wrist of the opponent who tried to draw his sword, incapacitating him, then killed the next samurai with a precise slash to the neck, and finally decapitated the samurai whose wrist had been severed.
1:48 The way the servant places the naginata into her mistress's hand is absolutely perfect. This second brief motion at the end - the fast gentle sliding of her hand along the shaft and the slight pressure - ensures that the weapon truly rests securely in her mistress's hand. In the event that Mariko hadn't properly grasped the weapon after the servant let go, this small movement would make it impossible for the naginata to slip from her hand and embarrass Mariko. It's perfect. "Another nice pour."
@@Mr.Sandevistan No, I don't, because there's nothing "deep" about it. The servant placed the weapon in her hand in a way that it can't fall away. If you find that "deep"... Personally, I would rather describe it as a nice little detail, easily overlooked with a blink.
@@Mr.Sandevistan You have no idea whatsoever about Japanese martial arts. None. Every action, every movement has meaning and thus is done just so. If you are too blasé to see that, your loss.
lol samurais gladly abandoned their lords when needed. The sengoku jidai was a mess because a lot of samurais changed their loyalties if needed. They're romanticized and the fact is, ninjas (glorified assassins) ended up being more loyal.
@@adambrande Ninjas were loyal to the coin, not the lord. Samurai were loyal to the ideal of the lord as they cared about honor and dying with that said honor intact. No samurai would willingly abandon their lord unless given good reason else they risk becoming ronin. There are exceptions to some, but as a whole no.
Killing the brown samurai’s in the book with arrows was considered to be very cowardly because they fought honorably and would have died from their wounds in a moment. They should have been allowed the honor of dying as true Samurai doing their duty.
@immortalassassin4456 and that is how it is written in the book. So, there is no chance disputing it. Ishido gets his just deserts later. When Ishido’s grey samurai prevent the brown samurai from being able to leave his castle, it is a samurai scene that is considered to be of huge importance and historical. Women samurai’s in the book force their children to watch and not turn away, because they are watching an honorable death scene involving many that will carefully be recorded for history.
@@freddiecawston2892 yes, but this particular scene of trying to leave the castle and that being denied came down to a battle scene that was to follow strict protocol. And that protocol was the two opposing samurai forces were to fight sword to sword. Ishido changed this and denied letting dying samurai succumb to their honorable wounds by killing them off with bows and arrows.
*I SAW HER* in that terrible Godzilla TV show and thought 'What an average actress'. Now I realize how much the overall direction, production, and editing quality of the show can affect a performance. She is amazing in Shogun.
A strong female character who is flawed, gets frustrated, realises she can’t win against a group of armed men and keeps her respect with the audience? I never thought I’d see this day with modern media!
This Mariko’s battle space is called "枡形虎口 MASUGATA-KOGUCHI", which is installed at the entrance of a traditional castle in Japan. The defenders of the castle can lure invading enemy forces into this space and annihilate them by raining down many bullets and arrows from above. Japan's traditional castles are designed to be extremely difficult to attack or escape.
Pretty much identical to gatehouses in western castle designs. Kinda funny that throughout history and despite our different cultures, we all tend to have similar ideas when it comes to killing each other...
@@mr.spongylikeaboss4987yea then again Europeans didn't have to design castles with Earthquake in mind. Calm down nobody said European castle was inferior.
only after watching episode 10 did I understand that THIS IS Crimson Sky... It was really intended that she will die either at the hands of the Palace guards... or by comitting seppuku exposing Ishida as dishonorable and exposing the hostage taking that had been happening.... masterful stroke by Toranaga when he asked her if she was ready to do her part..
The fact that the one samurai is fully armored helps sell it to sense it shows he was either a highly skilled/ experienced veteran to have earned that armor from his lord or from a rich family who could afford to outfit him and give him time to train till he was a master
Wow! The first samurai! Three strikes, two dead. Clears blade of blood before back In scabbard! And the other samurai behind jumps into stance to back his play! Brilliant!
Although I have not read the book, just from the show, she appears Toronaga's equal in many respects. Insight, perception, calm, intellect, and with superior poetry.
Mariko-sama stood on big business! Poor Blackthorne. The way he strongly muttered her name urging her to stop this. How powerless his character must have felt.
@chillco8764 very good observation. And an excellent question. The actress conveyed all those thoughts and emotions at the same time. I would say it’s possible that she was also jealous and or proud of her old friend.
Its a shame the scene has to be cut down for copyright purposes,my favourite part of the scene is when that Samurai flawlessly cuts down the two guards with ease in a couple of well executed movements and then loudly shouts “the lady will leave now!” Or something to that effect… seriously epic. A shame he lost his life to a cowardly arrow mere seconds later 😂 I love this show
Damn. One of the best TV series I've ever seen. Great respect for Mariko. In my opinion the best way to portray the strength of a woman. Such a masterpierce.
You know people were already spittin fire when saying "This is how you do a strong female character" but she just took it to new levels in this sequence.
The bst is that she was brave, but she was no superwoman easily despatching the guards. She got two, then the others got wise, and she tired quite quickly. And to think it was mostly for show, to show Ishido in a bad light...
It is not about physical strength. Her resolve in the face of a situation where she could plausibly have been killed is her strength. This scene is just one part of her resolve and strength. Even without the physical violence, she would still be an extremely strong character.
They made her believable. She lost that fight, but she tried. MARVEL would have made her spit fire and shoot hadokens and walk out the castle like a fake badass.
Mariko is one of the reasons why I appreciate women. THAT'S HOW YOU WRITE A FEMALE CHARACTER! Idc if it's Asian, black, or white. You do her right, and people will love her. Not those Bulsht disney Starwars Captain Marvel cringe that we saw.
If you rewatch closely....the first samurai cuts the hand off of the first guy.....kills the second guy....then comes back and kills the first guy. So sick. Crazy attention to detail to have him disable the first threat in order to attack the second.
In most other shows nowadays this would've been a cringey girlboss moment where she defeats all the guards and only loses because she has archers aiming at her but they actually showed a believable scenario and its that much more powerful because of it. Mariko is one of the best characters in the show.
That's because all of today's girl boss characters are written as if they are entitled to their powers/badassery without the struggle. Mariko is a well rounded character with sturggles and problems both men and women can relate to. Props to the showrunners for fleshing her character out quite well and Anna Sawai slaying her role.
Most likely because of the fact they are actually working with and under a Japanese team most western producers and writers over use the concept of honor when they do anything samurai as if retreating to keep their men alive or to fight another day is some how a grave sin to them
I was just thinking that. Here they show her courage and skill without having to make her superhuman or her enemies totally incompetent. Having Kiyama shout that she mustn't be harmed to make it clear that her enemies are deliberately holding back while she tires herself was a very good move from the showrunners.
When Mariko was disamed, in a Marvel film, she would have immediately back flipped onto one of the guards and do a headlock with her thighs, spin her body in a circle then snapping downward to flip the guard onto his head pile driving him into the ground while she lands catlike in a superhero pose crouched on the ground...the other guards haul ass out of there.
@@skrible71lmao yall so fucking cringey man. theres crazy overlap between the people working on your favorite shows to the ones you hate. its different products for different demographics with different expectations. we have grown ass men here complaining about women in disney shows as if they weren't marketed for 10 year little girls lmao. jesus fucking christ.
The part where she instructs his samurai to kill the first two guys was indeed badass but… there’s a part that is cut from this scene where she approaches the group with lances and says “I’m a vassal of lord Toranaga and my orders are clear” daaaamn that was the mic drop moment.
@@jonfreeman9682 this is why Toranaga is a true master of 4D chess. His chess moves are even playing us (the audience watching the show). I can almost hear Mariko responding to your comment using her Buntaro-smackdown line in the tea room scene (“Even now… you fail to understand...”)
The amount of respect they have to each other is massive, tradition and culture live on their veins. Bowing down to your oponent before you kill them is so damn bad ass,
Am I the only one that gets incredibly emotional EVERY EPISODE 😮💨this is phenomenal to say the least. Every human connected with this project should be proud of what they’ve brought to the world. This show is connecting cultures, generations, strangers and pulling from us our most precious memories of what family, loyalty and perseverance is. Arigatou gozaimashita
This is how you portray and write a strong female character, she didn’t need to physically beat any of them to show herself to be stronger than all of them combined…this is pure feminine strength through and through, done right. If this was your typical Hollywood show/movie, she would’ve beaten everyone in this scene with no difficulty whatsoever.
@@aslfire3710 This is most definitely not a typical Hollywood show…what are you smoking? This is a straight masterpiece, your typical Hollywood show is utter garbage filled with nonsense…actual mosquito brain over here.
@@aslfire3710 Actual Mosquito brain over here, can’t be a real human being saying this is you’re typical Hollywood show…this is a straight masterpiece of a tv show, your typical Hollywood show is regurgitated garbage.
There is a common used word called Kakugo 覚悟 which means mental and emotional preparedness to face difficult situations, challenges, etc. It is a state in which you have overcome fear/doubts/regrets knowing what could come ahead and accepting that still with a determination to carry through/endure to the end. This show did a really good job portraying that at the extreme level. Everyone has the Kakugo to die at any moment. It’s their default mental state. Especially Yabushige - that guy really has balls of steel - and Mariko and Hiromatsus display were memorable. Even Marikos guards. They probably knew that this where it ends before walking through those gates, at any moment they must fight and get cut down, yet they showed no cowardice. What Mariko did also takes guts. Imagine what that’s like, having to walk into blades and then decide to commit suicide even if you don’t necessarily want to. I can never have Kakugo for anything at their level
Can I say, the one thing that I appreciated the most out of this scene, was drawing the sword from the scabbard didn't have the completely overexaggerated and unrealistic sound every other sword-related movie/show does. I love this show too much
At some point of the original novel, there was a young samurai, remembering this scene, who said: I thought I was going to die of pride by just watching lady Mariko fighting her way out of the castle... It was not a scene they kept in the original serie with LADY Yoko Shimada. (R.I.P.) I am so glad they kept it in this one.
Actually Samurai have no problem with killing foes from a distance. They are trained with the bow from a young age and Oda Nobonaga was quick to adopt firearms as soon as they were introduced to Japan. This idea of a dishonourable kill from a distance is more of 19th century invention spread by the west.
@@jonfreeman9682Hi. I'm an average Japanese person, but I think people with bows are also samurai. I was taught at school that in old Japan there was a class system for samurai, townspeople, merchants, farmers, etc., but unless there was a time of war, no one would hire anyone other than samurai to guard Osaka Castle. (Google Translation)
@@dhimankalita1690 Ah yes, in that case it certainly is. Well, in this scene, it is clear that there is an archer, so I think he fought for Mariko-sama, knowing that he would be shot at from above.(Google Translation)
Amazing not even one archer dares hit lady Mariko. Chaos surrounding her she stands as if daring them. Those Samurai with her portrayed loyalty like nothing else.
I was thinking that too, we could be the one switching side and changing the tide of the battle of sekigahara. It would be a good redemption for yabusuke.
That one Samurai who Mariko put in charge next was so badass, the fact that he charged all the way through to the other side and was still alive only to get shot by an arrow. I'm pretty sure he would have been able to take them all out if it wasn't for that coward!
American Old Heads: I remember when we didn't use weapons, we just put our dukes up and punched each other. Japanese Old Heads: I remember when we'd just whip out our Naginatas on each other, but these damn kids and their bombs 😂
The sounds she makes when realizing the futility of her efforts, struck a chord in me, from my own futility in some situations. It's beautiful and well done.
The thing I love about this scene is that the women know they aren't going to be able to leave unless Lord Ishido gives permission. They don't have enough bodyguards to carve their way out and even if they killed the guards at the gate, they would then be mown down by the archers above. The purpose isn't to cut their way to freedom, but rather to make a sufficient attempt to say "I tried, now I have to commit suicide to preserve my honour". Every single act, from the slow walk as the arrows hit around her feet, to the naginata fight where Mariko very deliberately doesn't kill any of Ishido's men herself, and even the cries of despair as she drops to the ground are all carefully chosen elements of her performance. The aim is solely to turn the royal court and the other Regents against Lord Ishido. Hell, even her declaration that she'll commit suicide at sunset (why not now?) is deliberately so that Ishido has time to hear, and the other lords have time to put pressure on him to let Toronaga's leave Kyoto. There is a fleetingly small chance that maybe, just maybe, Mariko doesn't have to die in Kyoto. But she already came to terms with the fact that she probably will, and so Crimson Sky is able to work. Sorry, I know so much of this is either obvious to the audience or explicit exposition by the characters, but I absolutely adored this show from start to finish. The plotting and counter-plotting, the little random events that throw a spanner into the works, and the elegant simplicity of the final act of the season is just glorious. Shogun earned every Emmy it got.
Everybody talked about the brown Samurai with full armor. Nobody talked about the last no armor pheasant warrior( forgot their name ), the last man standing.
You're thinking of Ashigaru, which were only conscripted during times of war. Only the highest level of Samurai (Hatamoto) were landowners and permitted to wear 2 swords and could afford armor/horses. The majority of Samurai were of the Goshi and Gokenen lower samurai tier, unarmored, used spears/bows or a single sword and had to farm to survive.
I was thinking in terms of the book, where it is said all Samurai are allowed and required to wear 2 swords. It is also said that the Taiko prohibited conscripting non samurai. I don't know how accurate it is compared to historical events though.
It's freaking amazing that they kept in all the details that goes on with weapons fight. Reach and number superiority, tiredness creeping in very quickly, movements becoming weary and slow... Mariko didn't won the fight, or didn't even hurted them much, but the scene makes her justice, she did really well in such an unfair fight she knew she couldn't win.
Mariko standing in front of the swordsman reminds me of John Snow standing in ftont of the charging cavalry in the Battle of the Bastards of GoT. Priceless!
Why is it dishonorable if your going off the book don’t think it through what honor is their in denying a warrior a honorable death non so the fact that they use the bow shows you it was not dishonorable in fact the only reason the samurai for the most part didn’t use guns was the inaccuracy of the flint locks and muskets of the time if a weapon was not precise then it was not good enough for them
Cool scene and this show needed more battles. They portray the brutal efficient slashes of a katana accurately in this show. How the hell did the samurai that was back left get his head cut off at 0:47 ? His head literally just fell off with no one near him.
Mariko is the kind of woman I like to follow as a strong feminine role. Loyal, lovely, feminine, intelligent, with her feet on land, felt in love with her man, honest, etc. All opposite to the feminist woke of Disney. Shogun is the best for the moment.
The shortness of the main fight between the guards/soldiers feels extremely realistic to me. No insane unnecessarily stretched out choerography but instead every swing has a purpose and it all ends very quickly
Unless it was a duel, a matter of honor, a revenge killing or something off the battlefield. Then it was as it was called "The soul of the Samurai." BY THEM.
I was so disappointed to find that she did not live until the end of this season. She has made a significant contribution to her role and the story. Like a pillar of the temple
The dudes being hit with the arrows feels like when the Rangers were getting buzzed by the MG42s in Saving private Ryan. Just a cheap shot . But war is hell.
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The first Samurai who Mariko ordered to kill the two is such a badass! one..two..three efficient strikes resulting in two instant deaths. And the way he cleaned his sword off of blood was badass too! Definitely the Boba Fett of the scene. lol
The only reason I came here was to replay that six thousand times
Amazing foot work and use of his blade he was a deadly Samurai three strokes da man
The symbolic "De-Blood" is Chiburui or "Shaking the blood off"...
As a practitioner of Kenjutsu, there a several methods to Chiburui after a kill.
They were the personal guard of a princes , probably the best of the best wariors :D
Not to mention he even politely bowed before killing them.
Yabu described this scene the best:
"It was a poem, Anjin-san. Don't you see that?"
Trying to leave the castle was probably the most badass scenes in movie history. The formality to it all, the respect, and the accepting of one's fate. Pretty incredible.
And the way she stood there, right in the middle of it all, no fear. Priceless.
Then to top it off, they give us a REALISTIC fight scene with a female. No girl power, no mystical change into a female Musashi Miyamoto. She tried her best against superior numbers, cut one guy - not a kill, and the rest played defense especially since they were under orders not to kill her.
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@@buzzcutseason142 Because if Disney had done the series themselves she would have slaughtered all of those guards without help from 'any man' and cleared the way to the exit. Hence 'girl boss' comment. A guy would have failed also but would have died trying. Mariko's way, and Toranaga's also presumably, just drives home the cultural subtleties in the set up of the situation. Superb episode overall.
I loved this, you're absolutely right
They will be telling her story for hundreds of years. She achieved immortality at the castle gates.
@@alexandermarquardt597the show did move me almost to tears, but yeah, the book scene DID move me to tears. I like the book scene more because it is more epic, as she sent out a few waves of men, each in a group of ten to lead the way, before she herself fought one man. But the scene from the show is still great, albeit more concise.
Choreography goes so hard bruh, plus the elite sound design and camera shot selection makes these action scenes absolutely elite
What action scenes. It's a joke. They promised Crimson Sky with cannons blasting and storm the castle 🏰 awesomeness and all we get is this? It's false marketing.
@@jonfreeman9682 Bruh if you thought it was gonna be like that you're watching the wrong show G 😭
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Bro was expecting something like The Fast and Furious 😂
To be honest the way they hyped up Crimson sky we should've got at least one war battle scene. And there WAS a huge historical battle
Check out the fallout tv show.
choreography is non existent, CGI is fucked.
This looks like a much better show
Her kimono is so exquisite in this scene. I feel so much for Mariko. Her powerlessness in the end made me cry.
Not being a bitch by saying this, but she had complete power by the end. She knew what to do, what it likely would result in and followed through.
Not any spoilers, but she finally got what she wanted, and for a reason to help her Lord on top of it. She wins..
@@KrissyMeow I only meant that moment when she fell to the ground. When she got up she was in control.
Mariko always has the best drip
All see is wmaf bwc lover
The kimono, the traditional costume worn in present-day Japan, was completed around the beginning of the 17th century. The drama is set in the second half of the 16th century. Therefore, the design is slightly different from the kimono worn by women in Japan today.
Can we take a moment and reflect on how bad ass Mariko's Samurai Bodyguards were!!
It's incredible that when your good guys aren't just fighting incompetent/CGI bad guys, they're even more badass for it.
"It was an honour to serve you"
@@jonbaxter2254 oh this broke my heart.
For these elite few "only in death does duty end". True warriors, living each day like it's their last.
d before dishonor is a very critical part of japanese history, one that they themselves subverted and dismissed in film, but i'm pleased that it is making a return, as it is an authentic and sincere part of that time period and culture, and should not be held in contempt through modern cynical lenses, but by understanding the context and mindset of that period.
I can't remember TV ever being this good. Damn.
It’s been a LOOOONG time since TV has had the guts to be this good!
It's been far better.
Visually alone it looks so incredible. Something real
The Sci Fi series The Expanse is in the same league - but yes, this is quite wonderful.
While a little hard to follow at times, FX's LEGION is a masterpiece IMO.
People making movies/shows need to stop with the "faceless bad guys for the hero to win against" trope. THIS is how you do a fight scene.
Yeah, even though we had never seen any of these particular men on either side before, they did a great job of portraying the human cost of this gambit.
Yeah, I love it. It’s obvious neither side wants to kill anyone but they’re bound by their orders. It brings a fantastic human element.
In modern movies, it's odd to see a woman humbled by men.
@@wbwilhite She is not humbled. That is just a realistic portrayal of how that particular fight would go. In fact this whole scene elevates Mariko as a character. Notice how even the samurai on her side lose in the fights. They are not supernatural characters. Even the best fighter surrounded by 9 enemies with polearms is nothing but a mouse in a cat's claws. And i honestly like how we get to see that.
@@wbwilhite how long have you been holding that inside you?
0:10 "It ain't personal."
And he waited for them to draw first, like a cowboy dual
"Oh, that's ok then. No hard feelings. Go ahead and kill me."
Her escorts were the embodiment of Samurai. Skilled. Obedient. Honorable. Not one of them hesitated. Every deviant, scheming, maniacal character was eclipsed by their performance in this scene. This was the only part of the episode I cared to revisit.
Also incredibly smooth sword play
The samurai commanded by Mariko fought honorably, and they stood on business.
These are the type of men I aspire to be
Hate to break it to you, but that's drama for you. lol. There's no honor in war, lest being a samurai.
You guys are brainwashed.
@@ichiroutakashima4503these weebs don't know how brutal japanese caste system was. The Samurai was equivalent to Indian rajput caste.
The samurai's swordsmanship in the first scene is superb. He first sliced the wrist of the opponent who tried to draw his sword, incapacitating him, then killed the next samurai with a precise slash to the neck, and finally decapitated the samurai whose wrist had been severed.
When you hear someone order your death, it might be a good time to draw your sword.
@@JohnnyFukcup My sword would have been out the instant she turned her back to me.
Not to nitpick, but he sheared the guards fingers off. You can see it if you slow down the video. But I def agree with you. Such a cool scene.
2 out of 3 things you said are wrong lol
wow did you notice that at all by urself great job bra ur a samurai bro
1:48 The way the servant places the naginata into her mistress's hand is absolutely perfect. This second brief motion at the end - the fast gentle sliding of her hand along the shaft and the slight pressure - ensures that the weapon truly rests securely in her mistress's hand. In the event that Mariko hadn't properly grasped the weapon after the servant let go, this small movement would make it impossible for the naginata to slip from her hand and embarrass Mariko. It's perfect.
"Another nice pour."
You’re looking too deep into that.
@@Mr.Sandevistan No, I don't, because there's nothing "deep" about it. The servant placed the weapon in her hand in a way that it can't fall away. If you find that "deep"... Personally, I would rather describe it as a nice little detail, easily overlooked with a blink.
It's a PHENOMENAL detail and I love that somebody else noticed it. It's the little details that have made this show so absorbing.
@@voidw4lker yeah its not deep ur just a pretentous snob.
@@Mr.Sandevistan You have no idea whatsoever about Japanese martial arts. None. Every action, every movement has meaning and thus is done just so. If you are too blasé to see that, your loss.
It just goes to show how loyal the samurai are to their leaders. You ask for someone dead, they'll do it and with honor.
With absolutely zero hesitation
@MrDingDongPong with a little bow too. Respect
@@jonbaxter2254 truly bad ass.
lol samurais gladly abandoned their lords when needed. The sengoku jidai was a mess because a lot of samurais changed their loyalties if needed. They're romanticized and the fact is, ninjas (glorified assassins) ended up being more loyal.
@@adambrande Ninjas were loyal to the coin, not the lord. Samurai were loyal to the ideal of the lord as they cared about honor and dying with that said honor intact. No samurai would willingly abandon their lord unless given good reason else they risk becoming ronin. There are exceptions to some, but as a whole no.
Killing the brown samurai’s in the book with arrows was considered to be very cowardly because they fought honorably and would have died from their wounds in a moment. They should have been allowed the honor of dying as true Samurai doing their duty.
@Erratas0701 Makes perfect Sense you need to learn some history
Exactly. A long range weapon is cheating. The samurai way is to face each other mano à mano.
@immortalassassin4456 and that is how it is written in the book. So, there is no chance disputing it. Ishido gets his just deserts later. When Ishido’s grey samurai prevent the brown samurai from being able to leave his castle, it is a samurai scene that is considered to be of huge importance and historical. Women samurai’s in the book force their children to watch and not turn away, because they are watching an honorable death scene involving many that will carefully be recorded for history.
Samurai had no problem with killing people from a distance. The bow is a weapon of war and they treated it as such.
@@freddiecawston2892 yes, but this particular scene of trying to leave the castle and that being denied came down to a battle scene that was to follow strict protocol. And that protocol was the two opposing samurai forces were to fight sword to sword. Ishido changed this and denied letting dying samurai succumb to their honorable wounds by killing them off with bows and arrows.
Ana Sawai should win that emmy for her performance in this episode
She will. This show will have an awards sweep just like The Bear did. FX has done it again. They keep giving us heat!!!!
emmy isn't even enough 😅
*I SAW HER* in that terrible Godzilla TV show and thought 'What an average actress'. Now I realize how much the overall direction, production, and editing quality of the show can affect a performance. She is amazing in Shogun.
Her and Sanada deserve awards.. and hell.. throw in Yabushige an Emmy nomination for best supporting actor - he’s amazing
@@PrtyBlaque318 FX will beat HBO for this year's Emmys.
A strong female character who is flawed, gets frustrated, realises she can’t win against a group of armed men and keeps her respect with the audience? I never thought I’d see this day with modern media!
watch the show. This was all planned by her and her lord liege.
@@BelfastBiker I’m aware but I’m talking about Mariko’s character in general!
No superpowers. Just the pinnacle of human powers. Powers real humans can aspire to.
This Mariko’s battle space is called "枡形虎口 MASUGATA-KOGUCHI", which is installed at the entrance of a traditional castle in Japan. The defenders of the castle can lure invading enemy forces into this space and annihilate them by raining down many bullets and arrows from above. Japan's traditional castles are designed to be extremely difficult to attack or escape.
Pretty much identical to gatehouses in western castle designs.
Kinda funny that throughout history and despite our different cultures, we all tend to have similar ideas when it comes to killing each other...
Thats the purpose of a castle=))))
Hey Weeaboo, European Castles have the same things. In fact, in terms of defence, the designs of western castles are superior.
@@mr.spongylikeaboss4987yea then again Europeans didn't have to design castles with Earthquake in mind. Calm down nobody said European castle was inferior.
😮日本人です。
よく御存知ですね。
only after watching episode 10 did I understand that THIS IS Crimson Sky... It was really intended that she will die either at the hands of the Palace guards... or by comitting seppuku exposing Ishida as dishonorable and exposing the hostage taking that had been happening.... masterful stroke by Toranaga when he asked her if she was ready to do her part..
That is why Torinaga didnt explain it to Ajin. Is it because he knew that John likes her?
@@samphyrzhe knew they both liked each other
Dude the first samouraï are so badass
He would have stayed till the end if he didn't get shot
I was so pissed when he got offed by some archer. I wanted to see him do some more fighting man
@@ExponentMarswe live and we die
The two armored samurai who escorted Mariko
It was really cool.
The first two kills are so smooth!
The fact that the one samurai is fully armored helps sell it to sense it shows he was either a highly skilled/ experienced veteran to have earned that armor from his lord or from a rich family who could afford to outfit him and give him time to train till he was a master
Bro folded them like fresh laundry
Wow! The first samurai! Three strikes, two dead. Clears blade of blood before back In scabbard! And the other samurai behind jumps into stance to back his play! Brilliant!
Imma need therapy after this episode 😭😭😭😭
I felt like that after the dinner party scene 😨
Fantastic scene. Mariko is very strong, cold like a shogun.
Although I have not read the book, just from the show, she appears Toronaga's equal in many respects. Insight, perception, calm, intellect, and with superior poetry.
No, she's a puppet who was taken advantage of by the deceitful tyrant Toranaga.
@@TheSonOfDumb she wasn't taken advantage of. She knew exactly what he was asking of her and did it with pride.
Mariko-sama stood on big business! Poor Blackthorne. The way he strongly muttered her name urging her to stop this. How powerless his character must have felt.
When Ochiba was looking at Mariko fighting, I can't tell if it out of pity, sadness or guilt
It's all of the above plus they are friends. She doesn't want this but can't do anything.
the actress is casted because of that very reason. She, as an actress, is so good at that.
Fumi Nikaido is well known for these kind of characters.
Ochiba is the real b*tch who coward enough to take her own life
I think it is envy.
@chillco8764 very good observation. And an excellent question. The actress conveyed all those thoughts and emotions at the same time.
I would say it’s possible that she was also jealous and or proud of her old friend.
Its a shame the scene has to be cut down for copyright purposes,my favourite part of the scene is when that Samurai flawlessly cuts down the two guards with ease in a couple of well executed movements and then loudly shouts “the lady will leave now!” Or something to that effect… seriously epic. A shame he lost his life to a cowardly arrow mere seconds later 😂 I love this show
We needed more fight scenes like this on this show.
最初の二人を切り捨てる護衛の動きが本当にかっこよくて何度も何度も見ちゃう
よくある安っぽい殺陣じゃなく、護衛も門番も動きに物語がある
最初に刀に手をかけた門番に護衛は右足を沈ませてその手目掛けて抜刀で逆袈裟斬りで斬り上げる
上げた刀を遅れて動いた門番に対してもう一度右足を沈めて重心を落とし斬り左袈裟斬り
最初の門番が反応する前に今度は左足を前に出して重心をズラし上半身を捻りながら刀の切っ先を水平の位置に戻し完璧な一文字斬り
血を振り落とす所作、斬る前に門番相手にお辞儀をする礼節、この5秒だけでも言い出したらキリが無いくらい本当に良いドラマ
よく見ると最初の門番の右手の指が斬り落とされていてコンマ秒しか見えないような瞬間でもちゃんと表現されているのに感動
＞最初の二人を切り捨てる護衛の動きが本当にかっこよくて何度も何度も見ちゃう
そして次の瞬間、一矢でいとも簡単にやられるという・・・
近衛兵の精鋭感が素晴らしい。
腕は勿論、胆力、立ち居振る舞いが見事。
まじそれ
その通りですね。
この殺陣を見て日本人の私も驚きました。この居合は尋常ではないと思います。この殺陣師の方は凄いですね。
また、主君の命を受け、歩み出た侍が相手に向かって礼をしてますが、この動きの裏の意識も日本人には理解できますね。
それは二人の相手が、刀に触れるまで抜刀していない事でも分かると思います。
諸行無常。
心技体忠義礼節を兼ね備えし精鋭も、一閃の矢にて儚く散る。
散りゆくものの美学。
美しい武士道。
素晴らしく格好いい
最初に弓で倒れた人めちゃくちゃ強いよね…なんかオーラが違うもん！
She won the Emmy, very well deserved. I wonder if we will ever see another scene like this.
Damn. One of the best TV series I've ever seen. Great respect for Mariko. In my opinion the best way to portray the strength of a woman. Such a masterpierce.
You know people were already spittin fire when saying "This is how you do a strong female character"
but she just took it to new levels in this sequence.
I'm just glad Japanese Ms Marvel is a fine red mist. Finally. Say sayonara to Chuckles.
The bst is that she was brave, but she was no superwoman easily despatching the guards. She got two, then the others got wise, and she tired quite quickly. And to think it was mostly for show, to show Ishido in a bad light...
This and Mizu from Blue Eye Samurai.
It is not about physical strength. Her resolve in the face of a situation where she could plausibly have been killed is her strength. This scene is just one part of her resolve and strength. Even without the physical violence, she would still be an extremely strong character.
They made her believable. She lost that fight, but she tried.
MARVEL would have made her spit fire and shoot hadokens and walk out the castle like a fake badass.
このシーン好きです。
マリコ役のアンナは所作がとても素晴らしい。本来の日本の正しい言葉遣いがまともに表現されていて誇らしいドラマでした。
Mariko is one of the reasons why I appreciate women. THAT'S HOW YOU WRITE A FEMALE CHARACTER! Idc if it's Asian, black, or white. You do her right, and people will love her. Not those Bulsht disney Starwars Captain Marvel cringe that we saw.
Very true statement.
Or Amazon's ridiculous Galadriel.
Totally agree Mate.
You have the same problems with male charachters?
@@aslfire3710i do, you need a character with flaws so people can relate to them
If you rewatch closely....the first samurai cuts the hand off of the first guy.....kills the second guy....then comes back and kills the first guy. So sick. Crazy attention to detail to have him disable the first threat in order to attack the second.
In most other shows nowadays this would've been a cringey girlboss moment where she defeats all the guards and only loses because she has archers aiming at her but they actually showed a believable scenario and its that much more powerful because of it. Mariko is one of the best characters in the show.
That's because all of today's girl boss characters are written as if they are entitled to their powers/badassery without the struggle. Mariko is a well rounded character with sturggles and problems both men and women can relate to. Props to the showrunners for fleshing her character out quite well and Anna Sawai slaying her role.
Most likely because of the fact they are actually working with and under a Japanese team most western producers and writers over use the concept of honor when they do anything samurai as if retreating to keep their men alive or to fight another day is some how a grave sin to them
I was just thinking that.
Here they show her courage and skill without having to make her superhuman or her enemies totally incompetent. Having Kiyama shout that she mustn't be harmed to make it clear that her enemies are deliberately holding back while she tires herself was a very good move from the showrunners.
When Mariko was disamed, in a Marvel film, she would have immediately back flipped onto one of the guards and do a headlock with her thighs, spin her body in a circle then snapping downward to flip the guard onto his head pile driving him into the ground while she lands catlike in a superhero pose crouched on the ground...the other guards haul ass out of there.
@@skrible71lmao yall so fucking cringey man. theres crazy overlap between the people working on your favorite shows to the ones you hate. its different products for different demographics with different expectations. we have grown ass men here complaining about women in disney shows as if they weren't marketed for 10 year little girls lmao. jesus fucking christ.
The part where she instructs his samurai to kill the first two guys was indeed badass but… there’s a part that is cut from this scene where she approaches the group with lances and says “I’m a vassal of lord Toranaga and my orders are clear” daaaamn that was the mic drop moment.
The level of intensity is amazing.
Not intense enough. They promised us Crimson Sky and all we get is this?
@@jonfreeman9682 this is why Toranaga is a true master of 4D chess. His chess moves are even playing us (the audience watching the show). I can almost hear Mariko responding to your comment using her Buntaro-smackdown line in the tea room scene (“Even now… you fail to understand...”)
it was explosive 👧🚪💥
@@jonfreeman9682 If you wanted big battles, go watch Lord of the Rings or play video games. This is a character driven story, you lemming
😂😂😂😂🤦🤦
Needless to say, her performance this episode... Blew me away.
The amount of respect they have to each other is massive, tradition and culture live on their veins. Bowing down to your oponent before you kill them is so damn bad ass,
Am I the only one that gets incredibly emotional EVERY EPISODE 😮💨this is phenomenal to say the least. Every human connected with this project should be proud of what they’ve brought to the world. This show is connecting cultures, generations, strangers and pulling from us our most precious memories of what family, loyalty and perseverance is. Arigatou gozaimashita
This scene tore me up, Mariko's samurai were true bushido. She fought very well despite the odds.
Me, too. And I've read the book and seen the 1980s version.
Probably
Mariko said. Good people and beautiful flowers know when their lives are to be over.
John Wick 4: "Those Who Cling To Death; Live. Those Who Cling To Life; Die.”
@@victorpradha9946 John Wick; a samurai in a previous life.
47 Ronin
Wakandians are thorns
That first slash to take the first guy’s fingers off was such a cool detail, what a show
This is how you portray and write a strong female character, she didn’t need to physically beat any of them to show herself to be stronger than all of them combined…this is pure feminine strength through and through, done right.
If this was your typical Hollywood show/movie, she would’ve beaten everyone in this scene with no difficulty whatsoever.
This is a Hollywood show btw
@@aslfire3710 I mean did you miss the *“your typical”* before Hollywood or are you just a little slow up top.
@@Ivbo this is a typical Hollywood show
@@aslfire3710 This is most definitely not a typical Hollywood show…what are you smoking? This is a straight masterpiece, your typical Hollywood show is utter garbage filled with nonsense…actual mosquito brain over here.
@@aslfire3710 Actual Mosquito brain over here, can’t be a real human being saying this is you’re typical Hollywood show…this is a straight masterpiece of a tv show, your typical Hollywood show is regurgitated garbage.
There is a common used word called Kakugo 覚悟 which means mental and emotional preparedness to face difficult situations, challenges, etc. It is a state in which you have overcome fear/doubts/regrets knowing what could come ahead and accepting that still with a determination to carry through/endure to the end. This show did a really good job portraying that at the extreme level. Everyone has the Kakugo to die at any moment. It’s their default mental state. Especially Yabushige - that guy really has balls of steel - and Mariko and Hiromatsus display were memorable. Even Marikos guards. They probably knew that this where it ends before walking through those gates, at any moment they must fight and get cut down, yet they showed no cowardice. What Mariko did also takes guts. Imagine what that’s like, having to walk into blades and then decide to commit suicide even if you don’t necessarily want to. I can never have Kakugo for anything at their level
The way they would die for her is amazing 🔥🔥🔥🔥 I was screaming at the tv at this scene loved it
Can I say, the one thing that I appreciated the most out of this scene, was drawing the sword from the scabbard didn't have the completely overexaggerated and unrealistic sound every other sword-related movie/show does. I love this show too much
I have read Shogun twice in the last 40 years. What an incredible book and glimpse into that culture.
At some point of the original novel, there was a young samurai, remembering this scene, who said: I thought I was going to die of pride by just watching lady Mariko fighting her way out of the castle...
It was not a scene they kept in the original serie with LADY Yoko Shimada. (R.I.P.)
I am so glad they kept it in this one.
Best episode so far - well done Anna.
The way how John Blackthrone is just watching everything go down by looking down from above with his hands folded just looks so cool!
Actually Samurai have no problem with killing foes from a distance. They are trained with the bow from a young age and Oda Nobonaga was quick to adopt firearms as soon as they were introduced to Japan. This idea of a dishonourable kill from a distance is more of 19th century invention spread by the west.
exactly. There's nothing wrong with attacking from a distance during a fight.
However, a surprise attack is considered cowardice.
True but it's not the samurai way. When in close combat you fight hand to hand. Whoever shot that arrow is not samurai and there's no honor in that.
@@jonfreeman9682Hi. I'm an average Japanese person, but I think people with bows are also samurai.
I was taught at school that in old Japan there was a class system for samurai, townspeople, merchants, farmers, etc., but unless there was a time of war, no one would hire anyone other than samurai to guard Osaka Castle.
(Google Translation)
You're wrong attack from distance when two samurai are engaged in a close combat was always considered dishonouraable.
@@dhimankalita1690 Ah yes, in that case it certainly is.
Well, in this scene, it is clear that there is an archer, so I think he fought for Mariko-sama, knowing that he would be shot at from above.(Google Translation)
Shogun was the best tv show in years... all the actors, and scenes were amazing..
Happy to see everyone loved the bodyguards as much as I did!
"お斬りくだされ" が"Please kill him"にしか翻訳できないのが字幕表現の限界を感じる
確かにそうですね。
「殺しておしまい」ってニュアンスで伝わったら、ちょっと違うよね。
まぁ逆にほとんどの海外作品で日本語字幕も元の英語のニュアンスぶっ壊してるんでお互い様ですね。
What would be a better translation? Would it be something like "Grant him the honor of being cut down" ?
「解釈お願いします」の意味合いが上手く伝わってほしい。
日本語は感覚、感性的な言葉表現ですので外国語翻訳はとても難しい。
She acts like a skilled fighter with no fear, to ‘I am just as crazy as my old man’. Bring it
Amazing not even one archer dares hit lady Mariko. Chaos surrounding her she stands as if daring them. Those Samurai with her portrayed loyalty like nothing else.
藪重(浅野)の最後が気になる。
二重スパイ的な位置づけで最後関ケ原の小早川のような立ち位置になるのか、それとも敵として葬られるのか・・・
I was thinking that too, we could be the one switching side and changing the tide of the battle of sekigahara. It would be a good redemption for yabusuke.
That one Samurai who Mariko put in charge next was so badass, the fact that he charged all the way through to the other side and was still alive only to get shot by an arrow. I'm pretty sure he would have been able to take them all out if it wasn't for that coward!
American Old Heads: I remember when we didn't use weapons, we just put our dukes up and punched each other.
Japanese Old Heads: I remember when we'd just whip out our Naginatas on each other, but these damn kids and their bombs 😂
The sounds she makes when realizing the futility of her efforts, struck a chord in me, from my own futility in some situations. It's beautiful and well done.
The thing I love about this scene is that the women know they aren't going to be able to leave unless Lord Ishido gives permission. They don't have enough bodyguards to carve their way out and even if they killed the guards at the gate, they would then be mown down by the archers above.
The purpose isn't to cut their way to freedom, but rather to make a sufficient attempt to say "I tried, now I have to commit suicide to preserve my honour". Every single act, from the slow walk as the arrows hit around her feet, to the naginata fight where Mariko very deliberately doesn't kill any of Ishido's men herself, and even the cries of despair as she drops to the ground are all carefully chosen elements of her performance. The aim is solely to turn the royal court and the other Regents against Lord Ishido.
Hell, even her declaration that she'll commit suicide at sunset (why not now?) is deliberately so that Ishido has time to hear, and the other lords have time to put pressure on him to let Toronaga's leave Kyoto. There is a fleetingly small chance that maybe, just maybe, Mariko doesn't have to die in Kyoto. But she already came to terms with the fact that she probably will, and so Crimson Sky is able to work.
Sorry, I know so much of this is either obvious to the audience or explicit exposition by the characters, but I absolutely adored this show from start to finish. The plotting and counter-plotting, the little random events that throw a spanner into the works, and the elegant simplicity of the final act of the season is just glorious. Shogun earned every Emmy it got.
@@davidbuckley2435 I was not talking about the show. I was talking from personal history.
The fight that changed course of history of Japan
"I am honored to have served you."
Even when they knew it was certain death, they still fought with loyalty and honor for their liege lords.
Everybody talked about the brown Samurai with full armor. Nobody talked about the last no armor pheasant warrior( forgot their name ), the last man standing.
He was also a samurai.
You're thinking of Ashigaru, which were only conscripted during times of war. Only the highest level of Samurai (Hatamoto) were landowners and permitted to wear 2 swords and could afford armor/horses. The majority of Samurai were of the Goshi and Gokenen lower samurai tier, unarmored, used spears/bows or a single sword and had to farm to survive.
@@masktuxedo77 Yes but they are commoner Right? Lord Oda Nobunaga created them.
@@AdenBeiberbeck Yes, thank you so much. Oda Nobunaga recruited them right? To fight the other clans.
I was thinking in terms of the book, where it is said all Samurai are allowed and required to wear 2 swords. It is also said that the Taiko prohibited conscripting non samurai. I don't know how accurate it is compared to historical events though.
Felt bad for the last man standing. Atleast let him face you before stabbing him with the spear.
better to not see it coming
He chose to spend his last moment respecting Lady Marikosan ?
@@ronaldgrove3283 he was beaten either way. Atleast let him go with dignity.
You’d be surprised how brutal samurais are and aren’t as “honourable” as they’re portrayed in films.
It is not honorable to stab someone in the back. This is not the samurai way. He should fight to his last breath.
0:05 Reminds me of that scene from Zero Dark Thirty when JC told SEAL guys “…and you are going to kill him for me.” Queens of Ice, both of them.
one of the best episodes ever in all series
Most powerful episode of any series I've watched. I was ready to rouse my household at the offense given to Lady Mariko!
OMG one of the most intense and IMPOV legitimate samurai sword fight!
This episode was mindblowingly fantastic.. worthy of legendary status.
The way she ordered to kill is so chilling! I finished this series overnight. I just cant stop!
Just a monster badass scene with a show that has a lot of those. Wow! Do not mess with Mariko-sama!
where did the arrows fkn come from? i didn't see anybody at the top with a bow and arrow
It's freaking amazing that they kept in all the details that goes on with weapons fight. Reach and number superiority, tiredness creeping in very quickly, movements becoming weary and slow... Mariko didn't won the fight, or didn't even hurted them much, but the scene makes her justice, she did really well in such an unfair fight she knew she couldn't win.
I held my breathe for this episode!!!!
ive never seen "diplomatic tensions" portrayed so perfectly
This whole show just oozes *HONOR*
He even bow before he draw his sword and attack. Honorable culture.
The best scene of the whole series. Magnificent.
Mariko standing in front of the swordsman reminds me of John Snow standing in ftont of the charging cavalry in the Battle of the Bastards of GoT. Priceless!
Grammy award is coming
Emmy
It’s not diverse and woke enough so it’ll probably get snubbed
Emmy, not Grammy.
Those Samurais were kick ass characters but Ishido just wanted to be dishonorable and used the arrows.
It's cheating.
@@jonfreeman9682 and explosive 👧🚪💥
@@thatguywhois that was toranaga brother. There's a reason the episode is titled "Crimson Sky"
Why is it dishonorable if your going off the book don’t think it through what honor is their in denying a warrior a honorable death non so the fact that they use the bow shows you it was not dishonorable in fact the only reason the samurai for the most part didn’t use guns was the inaccuracy of the flint locks and muskets of the time if a weapon was not precise then it was not good enough for them
2:55
先に射たれた矢が後になって実際にマリコさんに刺さってるみたいですごい、作画も完璧すぎる、
Can we appreciate the bowmen real quick? Neck shot between armor, neck shot between armor, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 warning shots right by the feet.
The arrow would have pierced their armor, it was not steel plate.
The Samurai Miyai, didnt even think like "is this girl crazy? making me in charge and die?" . he was just like "point me to the nearest enemy"
Cool scene and this show needed more battles. They portray the brutal efficient slashes of a katana accurately in this show. How the hell did the samurai that was back left get his head cut off at 0:47 ? His head literally just fell off with no one near him.
I may be wrong, but the guys with the yari were ashigaru, no?
No, everyone present here were Samurai sworn to Toranaga or Ishido.
Mariko is the kind of woman I like to follow as a strong feminine role. Loyal, lovely, feminine, intelligent, with her feet on land, felt in love with her man, honest, etc. All opposite to the feminist woke of Disney.
Shogun is the best for the moment.
Love that bow before killing, like "nothing personal, fellas."
It's small details like the first bodyguard that cuts the first guy's fingers to stop him from grabbing his katana that makes this show amazing
The shortness of the main fight between the guards/soldiers feels extremely realistic to me. No insane unnecessarily stretched out choerography but instead every swing has a purpose and it all ends very quickly
It really depicts the way the samurai fought with their main weapons the Yari and naginata , as the katana was not really the main weapon of a samurai
Unless it was a duel, a matter of honor, a revenge killing or something off the battlefield. Then it was as it was called "The soul of the Samurai." BY THEM.
2:55 that is a nice camera angle. Her lying on the ground there defeated, with all these arrows behind her, looking like she was riddled with them
I was so disappointed to find that she did not live until the end of this season. She has made a significant contribution to her role and the story. Like a pillar of the temple
The dudes being hit with the arrows feels like when the Rangers were getting buzzed by the MG42s in Saving private Ryan. Just a cheap shot . But war is hell.
0:59 the most honored dead on screen...
Some nice cinematography too. The moment her head was aligned with the blood splatter, she went at it.
This is so real. No matter how skilled you are, two or three guys round you up and you'd be dead.
This scene .... everything about it, the writing, the acting, the cinematography... everything was just PERFECT!