Punter Drives an EV
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- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2024
- I chat to Punter Konrad about all things EV, the economy and politics. Check out @punterspolitics on all the socials.
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Excellent points Konrad. Food for thought!
Good discussion!
Sounds like you both want a Jaunt classic mini.
The 1st gen MG ZS EV has android auto/carplay but doesn't have any over the air connectivity to worry about. It's range is only about 220-250km but that's plenty for most cities. It's a good used EV for well under $30K. It was the best option we could find that wasn't a clapped out Leaf.
I love that I am monitored - so I cannot get lost anymore.
As someone that loves EVs, I think this hits the nail on the head - premium cars are great, but we need an EV Corolla and the like
I concur with Conrad exactly.
I love the Nissan Sakura - Japanese Kei class car, simple, light efficient and around the $30k mark new.....but they are currently Japanese market only and someone recently put a ban on privately importing various new Kei cars into Oz.........Look the sakura up - we need more of these!
I'm with Konrad, I want a small runabout that is relatively simple to operate. I would love an EV VW Beetle. Love the 2000s model.
An automatic ice isn't simple?
@@je2338 I don't want my next car to be an ICE car though
@@TheAdventuresofRussell why? Making a new electric car uses a lot of co2 not to mention using non renewable resources such as lithium and cobalt. it takes between 60,000km to 150,000km to make up for the production CO2 vs buying second hand. Thereafter, the majority of electricity is generated by coal. If you want a battery to make the concept really economical, you'll need a solar battery system which is a good 25-30k in additional costs. Moreover, the insurance cost for electric is sometimes double that of ICE. Yes you save in servicing, but for the typical car they are capped at about $400 per year. Then there is the terrible resale value compared to a toyota hybrid and new building insurance laws that will likely come restricting charging in apartment buildings
@@je2338 Everything produces CO2 at the moment because the majority of our energy is fossil fuel based. Yes those rare earth metals are hard to obtain but hopefully we can push to make them more sustainable. We will also have to address end of life for batteries which can create new industries and circular economies. This blue sky and the possibilities are endless. But us having this discussion is driving engagement to get more people to view this video.
@@TheAdventuresofRussell true. So I fail to see why anyone would spend so much more money and lose on resale value just to drive a car that's not going to make a massive difference to CO2 levels, especially on an Australia market level
OMG! Punter lied about test driving a Tesla... so He's working for the government now! I knew IT! Sounds like Punter needs an..... IMiEV! the simple EV! :P
🤦♀️ how did I miss suggesting an iMiev!?
@@ElectrifyThis Just noticed the tattoo on your arm in the end credit screen... 42? as in the answer to... everything?
"You have to turn them on, Konrad! You have to turn the car on!"
Also completely agree with him on this one, I want something like an old Mini or Kei truck with an EV conversion 👩🍳👌
A Mk1 MG Zs EV might fit the bill for Punter. Thermally managed battery with over 200k range, not overly fancy on the interior tech front and a secondhand one will still have a few years of manufacturer warranty left.
That’s a great call. Most cars these days are computers on wheels, ICE included.
The new Hyundai Inster enters the conversation except the price. Great review concept
Ooooh good suggestion
A 30kWh Leaf might be in your budget. Owned an older 24kWh 2012 Leaf and it was perfect for towing produce 50km from and to our farm.
I met someone with an electric mighty boy a few years ago, and he still loved it years after building it.
Australia is planning to invest in mass producing solar panels. Maybe not such a good idea in a very competitive market.
Perhaps value adding our lithium into batteries might be smarter, even if it's mainly for grid scale power here.
Make 3D printing and injecting affordable for metal and plastic parts in Australia, to make vehicles and machinery here would be a nice start.
Great to see Punter out and about!
A second hand hybrid corolla for about 20k would be the most practical, smart, environmentally friendly vehicle to invest in when compared to a brand new EV. A leaf would cost 50k min brand new.
@@je2338 why would you want more than twice the servicing costs, and have to buy fuel when you need to drive out of town?
@@andrewradford3953 because the cost to service for the average yearly distance travelled is far lower than the additional cost it takes to make insure an EV. Case in point, the average cost to insurance a model Y is $2,478 according to YOUi. Average cost to insure a RAV-4 hybrid is $779-$1200 according to YOUI. Yearly servicing cost on a Rav-4 is capped at $240 and $180 for a Corolla hybrid. A 'courtesy' inspection (as Tesla like to call it) is about $150 a year for servicing such as cabin air filters, wiper blades and brakes (yes Teslas have brake pads that need replacing eventually). As for you claim 'why would you want to buy fuel'. Do you think electricty is free? If you drive out of town and use a Tesla Fast Charger it costs $37-$55 for a vehicle with a 60kWh battery and between $50-$74 for an 80kWh battery. The average distance such a vehicle can travel is 450km. A rav-4 hybrid can travel 1200km at the cost of $99 (55L tank at $180) or $88 at current price of 1.60 a litre.
@@andrewradford3953 because the cost to service for the average yearly distance travelled is far lower than the additional cost it takes to make insure an EV. Case in point, the average cost to insurance a model Y is $2,478. Average cost to insure a RAV-4 hybrid is $779-$1200. Yearly servicing cost on a Rav-4 is capped at $240 and $180 for a Corolla hybrid. A 'courtesy' inspection (as Tesla like to call it) is about $150 a year for servicing such as cabin air filters, wiper blades and brakes (yes Teslas have brake pads that need replacing eventually). As for you claim 'why would you want to buy fuel'. Do you think electricty is free? If you drive out of town and use a Tesla Fast Charger it costs $37-$55 for a vehicle with a 60kWh battery and between $50-$74 for an 80kWh battery. The average distance such a vehicle can travel is 450km. A rav-4 hybrid can travel 1200km at the cost of $99 (55L tank at $180) or $88 at current price of 1.60 a litre.
@@andrewradford3953 because it costs more than $1000 a year more to ensure an EV and $55 to charge an EV if you 'go out of town' which will travel on average 450km vs 1200km for a RAV-4 hybrid at $88 (55 litre tank at $160 a litre). Servicing is capped at $220 a year for a RAV-4
I agree cars do listen.
Back in the day when we had mum, dad and seven kids in a Ford prefect, when it started p,saying up we would have family discussion about the best scrap yard to take it to. It would immediately start behaving. As did numerous other cars.
Just saying g.
😂 it’s true!
Like you, I don't like the computer aspect of new/er cars, EV or ICE. My 2020 Camry (first new car I've ever owned- EVs weren't an option for leasing at my workplace at the time) seems like a computer on wheels already and that trend is just getting worse, so I'd like to convert an old car, when that becomes affordable, too. Everytime I see an old car I'd like, my first thought is nice. My second thought is always, phaw, I'd like to convert that. Maybe like a Commodore ute or a little Datsun or 1970 something Corolla coupe. I wonder if the reverse (converting a new EV to not a computer on wheels) is possible? 🤔😆
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