Do ND Filters Matter? No filter vs ND vs NDPL Filter

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @keith-knittel
    @keith-knittel  4 года назад +25

    Which filters are you guys using most? ND or ND/PL? I find myself using a mix of both. Thanks for watching!

    • @bitlong4669
      @bitlong4669 4 года назад +1

      I also like using graduated ones, especially if I plan to capture sky with ground or close to horizon. Give good results with dark subject like a dark forest and bright blue sky.

    • @mrpeterpumpkin48
      @mrpeterpumpkin48 4 года назад

      My guess is I will be using ND a lot, but I live on a lake and have a boat, so I’ll be needing a polarizing filter also.

    • @diogogamba9338
      @diogogamba9338 4 года назад +3

      Depend situation, i use more ND-PL I think they correct the images better.

    • @AntonioIndelicato
      @AntonioIndelicato 3 года назад +4

      Bought a set of 5 ND/PL Skyreat, I can tell how the color is improved by a lot! My advise is the PL are way much better then the ND only.

    • @hooliganhalo4328
      @hooliganhalo4328 3 года назад

      I like to do over the water low shots, so definitely Polarized. Comes out so much better in post.

  • @ChrisParayno
    @ChrisParayno 4 года назад +8

    For drone footage, only during mid day. Any other time, it's a hassle especially if you are shooting multiple locations with different exposures. A filter maybe perfect for awesome sunsets but once you turn around it maybe too dark.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      Definitely location and weather dependent, but I agree. Sometimes in the morning in ohio if it's overcast, I don't need to use a filter at all. Sometimes I have to use an ND8 at sunrise because it's so bring. Thanks for watching, Chris!

  • @tylerjslattery
    @tylerjslattery 4 года назад +6

    the line on the filter indicates the direction of the polarizing lines. Polarizing is done by a series of very small lines in the filter that run parallel to each other. Changing the filter from the line in the 12 oclock to 6 oclock will not change anything (because the lines are parallel and run the entire length of the lens.)
    The polarizing doesn't work horizontally because the phase of reflected light is perpendicular to the surface. Most of the light is vertical and gets reflected horizontally and is why the up and down lines will cancel it out.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      Very true and sometimes frustrating (especially with a drone) to get the polarization wrong. Thanks for watching

    • @maximgoodvin6519
      @maximgoodvin6519 2 года назад

      Хоть один умный человек нашелся, который понимает как устроен поляризатор ))) А автор ребенок с игрушками... ))

    • @tylerjslattery
      @tylerjslattery 2 года назад

      @@maximgoodvin6519 Спасибо

  • @GoodGuysMedia
    @GoodGuysMedia 3 года назад +5

    Don't know how I JUST discovered you and your channel...so glad I did! Clear, structured, delivery of info. Objective tests and studies. I appreciate your work👌

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Glad you found the channel, lee! Appreciate your kind words and feedback! I try to be as structured as possible but it’s tough sometimes! Haha. Thanks for watching

  • @mardrones
    @mardrones Год назад +1

    Best video I've seen explaining NDPL filters. Thanks Keith!

  • @amateurvisser
    @amateurvisser Год назад +2

    This is probably the best explanation I've come across. Thank you.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  Год назад

      Thanks for the kind words and glad it was helpful!

  • @ZilveriCosas
    @ZilveriCosas 3 года назад +10

    Okay, this was a really good explanation. As an amateur, I always struggled with ND filters. Going to save this video for future reference. Thanks!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad it was helpful! It can be a tricky topic to understand but they are a great addition to your kit for filming cinematic video in bright environments. Thanks for the kind words and watching, Zilver.

  • @danecruz93
    @danecruz93 21 день назад

    The kind of video I needed. The kind of video no one else does. Thanks bro 🎉

  • @phuotchillchill
    @phuotchillchill 7 месяцев назад

    i watched a lot of chanel talking of ND Filter but you are the BEST! Short - Clear - Simple. Thank you so much. Now i know what i need

  • @ckeelor
    @ckeelor 4 года назад +2

    Sitting here in north Carolina watching RUclips and your video was recommended to me... And you started off with a shot from lakewood park and Bradstreet landing. Wasn't expecting my hometown! Nice work, subscribed

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      Glad I could give you a look at your home town! It's a great area and love it (other than the weather right now - you have it a little warmer in NC right now!) They are doing some construction on bradstreet and that's my go-to testing spot, so I've had to look elsewhere for my videos lately! Thanks for watching and hello from NE Ohio!

  • @dmichalopoulos4239
    @dmichalopoulos4239 3 года назад +11

    finally someone that can simply explain some things about how to use filters on people that are not photographers or have experience.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video! I wanted to break it down but not be boring and too drawn out. Hope it helped and thanks for watching!

  • @rikimarizard
    @rikimarizard Год назад

    First I saw the not great Jeven Dovey video and then I'm so glad I found this video showing an actual comparison of ND vs no ND. Great work on showing the difference - super helpful to have the subject and lighting conditions the same so we can tell the difference.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  Год назад

      Thank you for the kind words, glad it was helpful!

  • @fwfeo
    @fwfeo 4 года назад +2

    From my experience in Photography using circular polarizing filter, it is a biased filter!
    I mean no matter with position you adjust it to, it'll cut off some glare in the scene.
    For example you can make the sky that is 90 degrees from the sun's position looks super blue and dark or make it look slightly brighter compared to the surrounding scene.
    It's a tricky filter but very enjoyable to use. I highly recommend it if you're shooting a bald guy with shinny head! You can cut the glare for your portraits quite a bit! It's also great for shooting through glass or clear water in nature.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +2

      It's a tough filter to use, and it changes with how you point your camera at the object. There is a fair bit of changing angles in the air while using one with a drone. It can be done, but it's definitely not a "set it an forget it" type of filter! Thanks for watching

  • @TNBstudio
    @TNBstudio 3 года назад +7

    “If you don’t like, share with the one you don’t like.” Wowww! i like this sentence.😎😎😎

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Haha just having fun with the outro!

  • @ZayasRaymond1
    @ZayasRaymond1 3 года назад +1

    Sold me on the polar pro filters. Was going to get a cheaper set but I love the quality of the polar pro’s.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Filters are tough, since they go in front of your lens, cheaper ones can have a color cast or blur the image when you just want it darker. I’ve been really happy with the polar pro filters so far!

  • @MuffinmanT90
    @MuffinmanT90 2 года назад

    Wow thanks this is the 3rd video I watched and finally you just flat out explained it and didn't jump around! Thank you so much again it just clicked to me half way through I was like this guy is awesome!

  • @RYANP3Z
    @RYANP3Z 3 года назад +4

    Great explanation, one of the best I've seen on RUclips so far. Thanks for putting this together!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words, Ryan! Enjoyed making it - thanks for watching and your support!

  • @toddjensen8806
    @toddjensen8806 2 года назад

    This is the nd filter video I have been looking for for four days now! Thanks for creating this my man

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  2 года назад +1

      Glad I could help! ND filters can be confusing - they were for me at first!

  • @danteinchaosforever
    @danteinchaosforever 4 года назад +8

    Thanks, I felt this was a well explained subject. I'm just starting with filters so I'm look for reference material and this helped.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      Glad it was helpful! Have fun filming and thanks for watching

  • @elmono3939
    @elmono3939 3 года назад +4

    Well explained. Kinda wonder, why DJI decided to put in a f2.8, fixed aperture lens on this drone.They probably saved 2 dollars, but made us to deal with ND filters, lots of guessing, and high probability of ending up with overexposed footage. I would rather pay $100.00 more to have few more f-stops. Don't think that was a good design decision.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Hey there El Mono, some of the DJI drones (like the Mavic 2 Pro) has a variable aperture, but still needs ND filters to properly expose your footage. A non-fixed aperture definitely helps in those times where you need to swap ND filters to a stronger filter, adjusting the aperture can definitely save you there but ND filters are a pretty common tool to have for shooting natural-looking motion blur with your footage during the day. Totally see where you're coming from though. When flying the Mavic Air or mini series, I definitely find myself wishing there was a variable aperture.

  • @ExploringWorldYouTube
    @ExploringWorldYouTube 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hello, thanks for your interesting video and thanks to share it. I need to ask a question please. I only make documentaries in 4K 50p on sunny days. Since it doesn't make much sense to use an ND filter with high framerate and Automatic Exposure, I was thinking to buy a CPL filter and always leave it on, without removing it. I like an image that is a little more contrasted, crispier and with more colour. I use D-Log M, do you think I'll get what I want with CPL filter? Thanks

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  11 месяцев назад +1

      I would look into using manual exposure if you're using filters of any kind - adding filters will typically darken the image and your camera may try to boost ISO or jump around. Locking your shutter to 1/100th shooting at 50p, you'll probably need an ND filter on sunny days to bring your exposure down. If you like the saturated and contrasty look, you'll probably want to use single ND filters (ND4, ND8 ND16, etc) and a CPL to get the best exposure and remove glare/increase colors. Unless you can find an ND+PL for your camera, what are you shooting on?

  • @mattduncan5500
    @mattduncan5500 3 года назад +1

    @Keith Knittel i dont understand what the advantage of a normal ND Filter is. ??
    Why not just use ND-PL all the time. if there is water reflections great, if not it would just work like a normal ndfilter.
    But obvs, i must be wrong .

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      There are some advantages to normal ND filters, one is cost. A set of ND/PL filters will cost more on average than single ND filters. Another, more common reason is ND filters are less complicated than ND/PL. They arent that complicated but many beginners don't take the time to figure out which is the proper polarization that they need, so they arent happy with the results when using a polarizer on a drone and don't get great results. I love ND/PL filters, and use them anytime I'm around reflections, although there have been a set of VND+Mist filters I've been using lately. Next I'm hoping for an ND+Mist+PL! Haha. Great question and thanks for asking, Matt!

    • @mattduncan5500
      @mattduncan5500 3 года назад +1

      @@keith-knittel yeah i had a choice of a set of ND or a set of ND-PL
      they dont have the wheel that allows you to change anything .
      but i went with the ND-PL seems like can probably get away with just using those

  • @codylander
    @codylander 2 года назад +2

    Love the comparison between the filters. Great work as always!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words and support, Cody! 👍

  • @profilgeek5332
    @profilgeek5332 3 года назад +1

    "if you don't like the video, share it to some one you don't like" ahah I love it. Thanks for this video ! It is very interesting with details, I was looking for some informations about ND/PL filters and you gave me the answer I was looking for. Many thanks !

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad you found the video helpful and thanks for the kind words!

  • @thepuppetz
    @thepuppetz 4 года назад

    Hi Keith. Basically I’d say the best practise for Polar Pro filter is to set the line to 12 o’clock to get the maximum polarise effect. Correct?

  • @evanc1721
    @evanc1721 Год назад

    Interesting video, but I still have a question: why not shoot with maximum clarity / no motion blur and get that in post? I am hesitant to waste permanently frame quality, I might need the non-blurry frames in the future..

  • @robjeeves
    @robjeeves 2 года назад

    Nice tip about the frame rate mate. Not heard that one !!!

  • @bazilmatthews9299
    @bazilmatthews9299 2 года назад

    Thankyou. Was out and tried to fit. Not the same as Mini 2

  • @jaysun070476
    @jaysun070476 3 года назад

    I bought the dji filter the nd16 seems dark compared to other nd 16 filters i have. Had to up the iso in sunlight to get the right exposure.

  • @ksaboda
    @ksaboda 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this clear explanation. I’m just getting into nd filters for my mini 2 and your video was extremely helpful.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad to help, ND filters can be tricky at first - but they are awesome for making natural-looking footage. Congrats on your new Mini 2 and thanks for watching.

  • @4khongkong58
    @4khongkong58 3 года назад

    I bought the Skyreat ND filters and I’m pretty happy with them. Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      You're welcome and hope you found the video useful. Thanks for watching

  • @royevans4581
    @royevans4581 3 года назад +1

    Great explanation of this rule. Just a question about the rotating pl filter. Is it only to be moved to 12, 3, 6 and 9 positions?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for the kinds words! You can rotate the filters 360 degrees unless it's a "hard stop" filter. I just used the common 12, 6 and 9 as common positions

  • @rangerrick8220
    @rangerrick8220 2 года назад

    Very good explanation - thanks! One question - what are the best settings and filter for eliminating jitteriness from med speed sideways panning motions on a normal sunny day at noon?

  • @soumynonareverse7807
    @soumynonareverse7807 Год назад

    Are there any self adjusting variable ND filters that uses a clip or something similar to attach to Go size cameras?

  • @asura4938
    @asura4938 Год назад

    Hello
    Thanks for such a informative and easy to understand explanation.
    I just recently bought dji mini 4 pro i was thinking of buying a set of nd filter but then i saw that there and two choices ndpl and ND ….
    Which should i buy as i will not buy these again.

  • @dzlfiqar
    @dzlfiqar 2 года назад

    how to decide the allignment of the polarization?

  • @_brothersandsisters_
    @_brothersandsisters_ 2 года назад

    Can I use a ND8/PL filter but leave the setting AUTO for the drone?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  2 года назад

      Adding an nd filter and leaving your camera on auto will likely introduce more noise with a higher iso. Wouldnt recommend using auto settings

  • @ggarciacota
    @ggarciacota 5 месяцев назад

    Great video!! Thank you very much Keith!!

  • @Auhana50
    @Auhana50 3 года назад +2

    Polarization works better when it’s at a 90 degree. Great video thanks for posting

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Yeah, just how polarization works - decided to test it out just to make sure the lines on the filter were correct (and I've known that, but I never actually tested it before now). Thanks for the kind words and watching, JC

  • @I.am.lunaaaaaaa
    @I.am.lunaaaaaaa 7 месяцев назад

    Can’t you auto set the iso and then lock it in by turning it off right after and have the same if not nearly the same effect?

  • @4K-Observer-Walker
    @4K-Observer-Walker 2 года назад +1

    Excellent explanation! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, here! 👋

  • @blackout19
    @blackout19 3 года назад

    Great comparison, thanks. Also, loved you in Ferris Bueller's Day Off!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! ............Bueller...........

  • @redstoneranger1404
    @redstoneranger1404 3 года назад

    You really helped a bloody beginner to understand when to use which filter. Thanks a lot!

  • @denisnatera3633
    @denisnatera3633 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the video bro Ive watched a few videos on ND filters but yours was the best

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words, Denis ! Glad it was helpful

  • @jasonbutler2605
    @jasonbutler2605 3 года назад +5

    Very well presented, easy to understand, truly enlightening (since we are talking about filters...). Thank you for this really useful video. I was able to understand filters much better and do away with all ambiguity related to the visual effect of ND and polarizing filters. Thank you so much for this upload! Great job!
    I will go ahead and buy the PolarPro ND filter set that you recommended (8,16,32).

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Filters can have some big impacts on your footage - hope you have fun using them! Thanks again for the kind words and watching, Jason!

  • @a.b.5757
    @a.b.5757 3 года назад +1

    Hey Keith,
    Have you tested and compared DJI and Polarpro filters? Is there any difference?

  • @OAVProduction
    @OAVProduction 2 года назад

    very informative was about to make a purchase of some set of filters and this video just saved me a few bucks. thanks again

  • @britwincollins8590
    @britwincollins8590 3 года назад

    I just got and air2s still getting used to it but will like to know if this video sample are normal, D-log or HLG

  • @Smokdeel
    @Smokdeel 2 года назад

    Many thanks for sharing.I'm relatively new to the topic and I found this video very informative and digestible.

  • @OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery
    @OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery 4 года назад

    I am using MOMENT AIR ND filters on M2P. I also have PL filter from MOMENT but never had a chance to use it so far. Thank you for your detailed informative video. I”d like to find an opportunity to try my PL filter!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      Glad you found the video useful! How do you like your Moment filters? I've never used any but would like to try them out in the future. So many filters to try! Thanks for watching and commenting

    • @OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery
      @OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery 4 года назад

      Moment filters give me richer tones while controlling the light balance. I love them😃 Have a great weekend, my friend🌈

  • @itsmeericb
    @itsmeericb 4 года назад

    Awesome video! Great info! I am a motovlogger and use a gopro on my helmet. Having the motion blur helps to show my environment when I am at speed.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      For sure! That is a great use for the slight motion blur - and as you go faster, the blur increases. Thanks for watching, Eric!

  • @ralph9987
    @ralph9987 Год назад

    What about a ND/UV Combo Filter for beach or ocean shots?

  • @AdventuresofAwesomeJoe
    @AdventuresofAwesomeJoe 6 месяцев назад

    I'm using gopro 11. I see a lot of videos commenting on motion blur: but I am more interested in reducinh the extreme brightness of the Florida sun and I am going to Puerto Rico in two weeks. I haven't purchased the filters yet. I always wear polarized sunglasses and from my point of view its perfect. I was think to get ND CPL filters. I don't want motion blur, what happens if i leave shutter speed on auto? I like using the hypersmooth feature.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  6 месяцев назад

      If you don't want motion blur, use less aggressive ND PL filters, so you can keep your shutter higher, but not 1/1000 or something so it's not "jittery". I'd say shooting at 24 fps, keeping the shutter around 1/100 would eliminate most motion blur, but still keep the video from looking too choppy. 1/200 or 1/250 would start to look choppy to me, but do some tests before you go to Puerto Rico and see what kind of footage fits your taste

  • @FastestMobileDataSIM
    @FastestMobileDataSIM 2 года назад

    Very impressed with this my friend. Off on a trip to Wales, UK on Sunday to get some footage. Just bought the polar pro shutter collection filters. Hopefully do a good job 😁

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  2 года назад

      Have fun! That sounds like a great (and windy!) spot to film - good luck and thanks for watching

  • @cochisetorres3677
    @cochisetorres3677 3 года назад

    bro thanks I finally understand the difference of ND filters & ND filters with PL

  • @a.b.5757
    @a.b.5757 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Keith for great video! What is still open for me, is following question - would you recommend using nd/pl filter on non-reflecting objects?

  • @CurtisDensmore1
    @CurtisDensmore1 2 года назад

    A polarized filter at 12 o'clock vs 6 o'clock is the same thing. Light bouncing off surfaces is polarized parallel to that surface. Filters remove light polarized in a certain plane.

  • @hooliganhalo4328
    @hooliganhalo4328 3 года назад

    Very informative tut. Not too technical at all. Actually explained everything to a T. Love the mathematics involved and love the trickery with bumping the shutter speed and frame rate. Liked and subscribed for sure. 👍

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! I'm far from the first person to use this concept, but have been using it for years. You can also break this too! If you're shooting something fast like a car, and don't want as much motion blur, you can slightly bump up the shutter for less blur. Removing the motion blur might not be a good idea - but experiment around with your settings! It sounds nerdy, but it can separate your footage from everyone elses! Sorry for the rant and glad you enjoyed the video enough to like and sub.

  • @rajeshp6700
    @rajeshp6700 2 года назад

    Many thanks! I have looked high and low for an explanatory video on ND and NDPL filters and you have just made it so clear and to the point. Couldn't help giving a big Like (am already subscribed!).
    Just one question. I have an Osmo Pocket 2 and was looking for directions on ND and NDPL filters. All that you touched upon in this video will, I assume, be just as relevant for non-drone (the Pocket 2, in my case) videography too, right?

  • @Toma5OD
    @Toma5OD 4 года назад +5

    Great video. I've watched a lot of videos about ND filters and this was the best. Straight to the point. Cheers :)

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      Wow - glad I could help! Thanks for the kind words and watching!

    • @floriannoel362
      @floriannoel362 4 года назад

      I agrre here after watching countless videos on the topic this one made me understand it all !
      Clear and simple great job

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      @@floriannoel362 Thanks, glad the video was able to help!

  • @disco.jellyfish
    @disco.jellyfish 8 месяцев назад

    For choosing an ND, I can actually recommend to point your camera roughtly in the direction showing the situation you want to be shooting in, set ISO to auto, choose the shutter speed you want and then try out different ND filters. Choose one that gives you exposure that looks right just from the image, an look for the ISO to not be at the total minimum but also not at the total maximum. If the minimum is 100, you want to choose a filter that allows you to be close to that but not straight on. You will want some buffer in case the area suddenly gets brighter mid flight.
    At least, that is for drones, which have fixed aperture. If you have variable aperture with a minimum of lets say f1.4, set the aperture to f4, ISO to the native ISO (lets assume its 800) and then attatch an ND-filter that gives you proper exposure. If the lighting conditions change, you optimally want to change the ND filter - that shouldnt be possible mid flight, so you will have to change the aperture instead.
    There is a clear right and wrong in this. The right ND filter is the one that gives you proper exposure.

  • @solicannoli34
    @solicannoli34 3 года назад

    Great video! I was super confused about the differences between them also all the numbers lol. You saved my money. Thanks!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, Soli! Thanks for watching and glad I could save you some money!

  • @EricTheHiking
    @EricTheHiking Год назад

    Love your explanation ! Very clear !

  • @smaganas
    @smaganas 3 года назад

    If we don't need the shallow depth of field we can just raise the shutter, close down the aperture, and drop the iso to 50 or 100?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Raising the shutter effects the amount of motion blur, so raising that up too high will make our footage look digital and choppy. Most dji drones don’t have the ability to adjust the aperture, but if you can, that’s a great way to control exposure and keep your iso at 100

  • @animaxxx4429
    @animaxxx4429 3 года назад

    Hey man I got a question. I'm a beginner and use Davinci Resolve 17 (free) and calibrated my monitor using downloaded ICC profile from internet. Does Davinci Resolve support it out right or do I have to install 3D lut in Resolve for it to match the calibration ? If yes then how to do that ? Please guide.

  • @adventuresandstuff
    @adventuresandstuff 2 года назад

    This is a great, simple video. Thanks!

  • @opixtm
    @opixtm 3 года назад +1

    How do we get the right alignment with ND/PL to achieve no relection?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      If your lens has markings on it, check out the markings - typically lining up the markings or using it at the top of the lens will give you the best polarization. If not, it will take some experimenting. Thanks for watching

  • @DroneALRM
    @DroneALRM 3 года назад +1

    Nice tips! Good information.
    Congratulations from Brasil 🇧🇷

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words! Greetings from the us!

  • @olivierhacking
    @olivierhacking 3 года назад

    Just to understand it correctly, do you adjust the polarisation depending on the scene? Or do you always stick to 12 o'clock for example?

  • @davidshuttmedia373
    @davidshuttmedia373 3 года назад

    Nice subbed!
    Just a side note, if you double the frame rate say to 60 and then use the 120 shutter angle that will give the 180 degree shutter if you slow it down, but if you don't slow it down then it will be a bit more staccato

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Hey there David, thanks for the sub! I was under the impression that the shutter angle was determined at the time of recording. So filming at 24 fps / 48 shutter speed would be a shutter angle of 180, but also 60 fps / 120 shutter speed would also be a shutter angle of 180, regardless if you slowed it down or not. You can slow it down, but the motion blur will remain the same (more drawn out if you slow the footage down, but it would be the blur would be the same). I think the stuttering may occur if you're putting the native 60 fps footage into a 24fps timeline. Interpreting that 60fps footage to the 24fps timeline would eliminate those stutters, but you'd have to slow down the footage. I could be wrong here, but let me know what you think. Very good question and thanks for bringing it up!

    • @davidshuttmedia373
      @davidshuttmedia373 3 года назад

      @@keith-knittel Oh no, I read what I said and worded it terribly haha, it's because most people edit in a 30p timeline even with 60p footage, so you're right if they slow it down it'll be fine, but if they edit in a 30p timeline with the 60p footage and don't slow down the footage to keep all the frames then 1/2 frames will be missing which will make the shutter angle for those shots at a 90degree angle instead of a 180 degree angle.

  • @manosalexakis
    @manosalexakis 3 года назад

    Recommendations for DJI mini 2?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      I like the free well filters - check out my mini 2 accessories video! Thanks for watching

    • @manosalexakis
      @manosalexakis 3 года назад

      Thanks for your reply!

  • @WyvernApalis
    @WyvernApalis 3 года назад

    Do you have a problem with purple tint on the DJI ND filters? I feel like the ND32 in the fly more package casts a purple hue while somewhat affecting the reds and making them look pink

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      It seems like every filter has a slight color cast to some degree. I've been making corrective LUTs to apply before editing for each color profile and lens I've been using to help take care of that.

  • @hildaelson4203
    @hildaelson4203 3 года назад +1

    Me with a newly bought Mavic Air 2: keep watching those amazing footages! I can totally do this!
    Me after unboxing: how do you assemble this thing? Let alone how filters and frame rates and exposure work hahaha.
    But thank you so much for this video! I will need to come back to this after I’ve learned how to fly it.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Haha totally understand what you mean. There is a learning curve, but if gets easier the more you do it. Most all cameras (and DJI) drones are pretty similar, so if you know how to use one - you'll be able to pick another one up pretty quickly. Just the initial learning curve is tough - and I still learn new things all the time! Congrats on your new drone and thanks for watching

    • @novikovgarage_SPB
      @novikovgarage_SPB 3 года назад

      :))) ha-ha-ha

  • @rulesboypictures
    @rulesboypictures 3 года назад

    Why we need filters if we can do color grading,brightness,contrast etc etc

  • @Uncle_Khmel
    @Uncle_Khmel 3 года назад +1

    Thanks 🙏 Best Buy : nd8/pl + nd16/pl+nd32/pl it’s correct ? In Europe not in California;)😊

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      That is a great place to start and what I use most often. In the future I’d pick up an nd4 file golden hour if you film at 24fps a lot but that’s a good setup!

    • @tsp2jxd
      @tsp2jxd 3 года назад

      Hey....great video. What if your filming in 30fps?

  • @RomanFilus
    @RomanFilus 4 года назад +1

    Great informative video! Just bought PolarPro Vivid collection and this was truly helpful. Thank you :) You got yourself a new subscriber. Also, kudos for the super crisp mic sound! Keep it up

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it, Roman! Those are great filters - thanks for the kind words, watching and subscribing!

  • @ced777
    @ced777 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this great video !
    I've the DJI mini 2, I use ND-PL filters (8 16 32 64 pack) Freeweel, so, I can adjust the PL. But I admit not always adjusting the PL, and if it's adjusted, for exemple, when you film on a 360° view, I assume the effect of the PL will change. But, is it really bad / matter ?
    I always record videos on 4k 25 fps, and so try to stay on 1/50 shutter to get the "most cinematic" rendering.
    On my filters, there are as well the mark, but how this must be placed ? Depending of the hours, or of the sun position from the drone ?
    Not easy. But on small camera sensor like on the mini2, the PL seems to bring as well a little more contrast / dinamic on the global colors as well. That's why I choosen filters ND-PL instead of single ND.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      ND PL filters are a little more tricky to use than the ND filters, but knowing you need to adjust them I'd do some quick tests to find the areas of polarization on the lens and use the marks on the lens to know which position is the best. Thats how I do it, and love the glare that the polarization cuts out of my shots. Especially since I film by the lake a lot. They are more time consuming, but worth it if you need them! Thanks for watching

    • @ced777
      @ced777 4 года назад

      @@keith-knittel Thanks for your answer Keith ;D

    • @4seeableTV
      @4seeableTV 3 года назад

      It's similar to wearing polarized sunglasses. They work great, but if you pivot your head in either direction, you'll let in more glare that the sunglasses were blocking.

  • @on_wheels_80
    @on_wheels_80 4 года назад +11

    A pol filter is the same at 12 o'clock an 6 o'clock (or 3/9, 1/7, etc).

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      I agree! This video is meant to be an introduction to the different kinds of filters, so I thought showing a few examples would help drive the point of PL filters a little more. Just be aware that not all polarized filters are created equal, and some filters may have a cross-polarization effect if you move the polarizing filters too far. This is less of an issue on filters with markings or hard stops but still something to be aware of. Sorry for the late response - thanks for watching and pointing that out

  • @mrpeterpumpkin48
    @mrpeterpumpkin48 4 года назад +2

    Thank you! I think I FINALLY understand the benefits and reasons behind using these filters. Great job. Well done.
    I have a Mini 2. I realize it’s limitations but I’d like to get a polarizing filter for it. I don’t find an offering from Polar Pro Filters. Do you have a recommendation?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      Filters are tricky at first but they can give you some great results! Freewell has some polarized Nd filters. There is a link in the description to them on my “mini 2 accessories” video. I’d link you here but I’m on my phone. Thanks for watching and glad it was helpful!

  • @athirath
    @athirath 2 года назад

    Explained really well. Thank You !!

  • @droneready8278
    @droneready8278 4 года назад

    I have an Evo 1 and it’s camera is great...I don’t have any ND filters for it but it did come with real glass optics...and a UV filter.
    What effect does the UV filter have?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      I don't really use UV filters, as they don't provide any additional properties other than keeping dust and dirt away from your lens and protecting it if something were to happen to it. I don't like adding filters if I don't 100% need them but if you want to protect your camera - keep the UV filter. Thanks for watching

  • @ahmetanak
    @ahmetanak 3 года назад

    Hello; what do you think about nd128, 256 and 1000 for photography and video?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      For a drone, I think it's gimmicky. For photography you can use a tripod and be very still with, they can have their place - but drones I'd stay away from it. It's hard to keep the drone still enough to get a sharp image. They can be a fun challenge, but you wouldn't use them very often. Thanks for watching

  • @ReadytoChop
    @ReadytoChop 4 года назад +1

    Lakewood, nice. I've filmed at the Solstice Steps pretty often.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      It's a great place to film (and take a walk/run)! Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @danielburgmann7573
    @danielburgmann7573 4 года назад

    if i have tho chose one filter... should i get a 16nd 32nd/pl 16nd/pl or 32nd filter? btw. i live in the dolomites and in the winter is much snow

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      The polarizing filter might be nice to remove some of the glare off of the snow, but they are tricky to align for that to be your only filter. If you only had to have one, I’d go with a Nd 16 or 32. Not sure how bright it is, but with a 16 you can shoot in 60fps and adjust your shutter to 1/120th to bring your exposure down but if you want to shoot 24fps and it’s really bright, go with the nd32. Sorry for the vague answer, it’s a tough question! Thanks for watching

  • @MattMattMat
    @MattMattMat 4 года назад

    Super easy to understand and straight to the point. Thank you!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      Thanks matt! Hope you found it useful. Thanks for watching

  • @jacquesdemolay2699
    @jacquesdemolay2699 3 года назад

    Is reflection a bad thing ?
    Is motion blur so good ?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      It’s all personal preference. For me, removing the glare adds more detail so the overall shot looks clearer. I also like some subtle motion blur on faster moving objects. Again, you don’t have to use these, but I like the look of using them. Too high of a shutter speed to compensate for the exposure feels like the footage is overly digital and skipping to me

  • @TexasFamilyCamping
    @TexasFamilyCamping 4 года назад

    Great rundown. I've yet to explore the ND filters on our Air 2 drone. I'm excited to go out and try this out.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +1

      They're awesome for the MA2 since the camera is so good! If you're filming a lot in bright environments they will give you great video if you're using the 180 degree shutter rule. Thanks again for watching so many of my videos, Texas Family Camping!

  • @RokkarTV
    @RokkarTV 2 года назад

    Dang dude, this was informative. Thank you for making this video :)

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words!

  • @hgodtx
    @hgodtx 3 года назад

    If I get filters, can I be lazy and just use the camera's Auto setting? Or do I have to us manual settings?

  • @lucacorona6681
    @lucacorona6681 3 года назад

    Wow, this was super useful!
    Do you know if the pink reflex which occurs pointing the camera towards the sun vanishes with ND filters on?

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      Lens flare is really different from lens to lens. More expensive lenses tend to control flares better, but pointing any lens towards the sun is going to have some amount of flare happening. What camera / lens are you using? Thanks for watching and glad you found it helpful!

    • @lucacorona6681
      @lucacorona6681 3 года назад

      @@keith-knittel Thank you for the amazing content and for the answer, I was asking in order to take better photos and expecially make better videos with Dji Mini 2.
      I found the Freewell "standard day kit" (ND4, 8,16 and the polaryzed one) and tought it could be ok for an entry level like me.
      But I wonder if the lens helps with the pink flares, it is very annoying because as soon as the sunlight hits the lens the flare pops out, even if I'm not pointing straight at the sun.
      😑

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад +1

      @@lucacorona6681 The Mini 2 has a pretty bad lens flair if you get light anywhere near the sun - check out my Mini 2 tips and tricks video, I kind of go on a mini-rant about that. It's an "entry-level" drone, so I don't go too hard on it, but ND filters aren't going to totally remove that problem. That issue is with the lens itself. The ND filters will help block some of the light, but not that much to make a difference in the majority of the problem. The Mini 2 is a great drone, but I don't like that lens flare. It's pretty wild!

  • @charless78
    @charless78 4 года назад

    hello a question, if i buy the polar pro. but 5 steps. It will give me the same quality as the individual filters.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +2

      I havent tested out the polar pro VND for drones - the VND for mirrorless / DSLR cameras is great though. I use the larger VND over individual filters but it costs an arm and a leg.

    • @charless78
      @charless78 4 года назад

      @@keith-knittel thanks for your answer

  • @TheDammrich
    @TheDammrich Год назад

    I just recently bought a drone and am researching the accessories needed to get the most out of it. Tonight, I have been researching filters for a few hours and can say without question, this is the most helpful video that I have seen. Thank you for making this video, sir!

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  Год назад

      Wow, thank you for the kind words and glad to hear this was helpful!!

  • @stantonkramer2986
    @stantonkramer2986 2 года назад

    The question comes into play; is trying to get *some* motion blur worth giving up exposure adjustments with fixed aperture lenses with the only tool, the shutter speed? And with the ND filter the exposure still has to be dead on. So to some extent you're stuck anyway, having to depend on post production to fix minor exposure issues. And motion blur only occurs when you're closer to objects. So, IMO those pilots/filmers who are sensitive to motion blur, a better drone would be one with variable aperture like the Mavic 2 Pro, Mavic 3 or Autel Evo II or Evo Lite Plus. With variable aperture, if you think you need motion blur, you can throw on your best guess of ND filter set the shutter speed, and then dial in the correct exposure. And should the light change during the same sortie, just adjust the aperture again.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  2 года назад

      That does come into play, however cranking up your shutter speed on a sunny day to something high like 1/1000+ will start to introduce some stuttery-looking footage as well. With the filters, I can still adjust lower or higher than the 180 degree shutter rule. Like you mentioned, if you want more motion blur, you can "fake" that by slowing down your shutter to something even slower than you typically would if you're far away from your subject to "simulate" some motion blur. The beauty (and the frustrating part) is that there is no right or wrong answer. The guidelines are a good starting point to use most of the time but there are always situations where you can "break" the rules and get great results. Understanding the rules is the first part of knowing when to break them and you definitely seem like you know the 180 degree shutter rule pretty well. I agree that having aperture control is easier. I should make an update video to this using a mirrorless/DSLR and go deeper into how aperture plays a part in this. Thanks for the great comment and watching

  • @nikyabodigital
    @nikyabodigital 25 дней назад

    Can u turn off pl on ndpl or nah?

  • @musicbrum1
    @musicbrum1 2 года назад

    Very nice explanation !

  • @raduchiperi4924
    @raduchiperi4924 4 года назад

    The explanation is great! However, the footage seems choppy at times when turning or panning...I've heard some people turn off the caching on top of adjusting the shutter speed to be double than the frame rate

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад

      I shoot at 24fps, so the footage can appear choppy. I'm sure RUclips isn't helping out either. I've never heard of caching having anything to do with the shutter speed or frame rate though.

    • @raduchiperi4924
      @raduchiperi4924 3 года назад

      @@keith-knittel so I have a big problem with choppy videos or videos that stutter straight from the SD Card. I follow the 180 degree rule, I'm shooting at 24fps, my shutter speed is at 1/50 and added ND filter as well. I even turned off caching and auto HD sync. I'm using a Mavic Mini 2. I have no idea what else I can do. It's quite disappointing after investing money and time in this drone. Any ideas? You reckon that 24fps with 1/50 shutter is causing the problem and I should use 25fps instead? Or 30 fps with 1/60 shutter?

    • @codywild8176
      @codywild8176 3 года назад

      @@raduchiperi4924 Try 25fps with 1/60 shutter and slow down 3-5% or try the same with 30fps and slow maybe 10%

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      @@raduchiperi4924 What computer are you editing with? If you preview the footage on your phone via the app, does it stutter? You need a very strong computer to playback and edit this footage

    • @raduchiperi4924
      @raduchiperi4924 3 года назад

      @@keith-knittel I can't previous the footage on the app as I turned off the caching. My laptop is pretty powerful, MacBook Pro 2020, i7, 32GB, should be no problem with it.

  • @williamschwartz9283
    @williamschwartz9283 Год назад +3

    If you want to eliminate glare off a horizontal surface, (like water), align the filter vertically, (12 o'clock or 6 o'clock)- If you want to eliminate glare off a vertical surface, (like a glass building), align the filter horizontally, (3 o'clock or 9 o'clock)- 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock are physically IDENTICAL. Ditto 3 and 9

    • @MontagoDK
      @MontagoDK 5 месяцев назад

      exactly .. i dont think he knows how polarization works :D

    • @JonathanAkosah
      @JonathanAkosah Месяц назад

      Thank you very much for this tip

    • @manifesttrust
      @manifesttrust Месяц назад

      Thank you very much

  • @janklinek6715
    @janklinek6715 3 года назад

    @keithknittel can i ask, is the same when iam filming 25fps at 50th or 60fps at 120th, when then exporting whole clip to 25fps ? thanks :)

    • @janklinek6715
      @janklinek6715 3 года назад

      @Keith Knittel

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  3 года назад

      Hey there Jan, If you have a 25fps timeline, and have a 50fps clip, you can slow it down 2 times in post production before the frames start to "skip". Filming at 25fps at 1/50th shutter or 60fps at 1/120 shutter has to do with the motion blur that is baked into the clip when you're filming it.

  • @BojanBojovic
    @BojanBojovic 4 года назад +2

    Strange, never used anything above ND16, while being at ND4 most of the time.

    • @keith-knittel
      @keith-knittel  4 года назад +2

      It really depends on how bright of an environment you're filming in. I live in Ohio, so my ND filters are typically pretty mild, but when I was in Mexico when the sun was closer to the equator, I had to use some serious ND filters to battle the sun. Thanks for watching, Bojan

  • @Mir_Vashemy_Domy
    @Mir_Vashemy_Domy Год назад

    Thanks for your video. Very useful!