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Kudos to the actor who played Neil, as somehow in 23 minutes in an ensemble of people that character had a whole arc, and a lot of that was carried just by his expressions.
Apparently Alison Brie actually improvised a whole monologue about how she seduced the elf maiden during that scene and the recording exists somewhere but was never released
It's a huge, huge shame that Chevy Chase was difficult to work with, and ALSO a huge, huge shame that Harmon didn't handle that relationship and situation better, because honestly, I say without exaggeration, this is one of Chevy Chase's best work (I mean this episode and the show in general). He is AMAZING as Pierce and AMAZING in this episode as the villain. Difficult to work with...etc, but I dont want to take anything away from his talent, I mean a good villain makes the story better and wow, he was amazing. Such a shame he couldn't be in the show for as long as the regular cast. One of the best Community episodes and the episode that got me interested in DnD (though I dont play it lol). Also, agreed @ everything you guys said about blackface...etc. Action is by intention and we can clearly see that Chang wasn't even thinking of blackface when he put on that makeup.
i agree with your assessment of this being chevy chases best work(this episode), and i think his best single line delivery was in the debate episode when he tells britta "how DARE you pity me?!" i disagree about the whole "black face" thing. snowflakes caused the episode to be canceled. dark elves are not black humans, but the whole concept of "black face" is ridiculous. robert downey jr played a role completely in blackface in tropic thunder, and it was awesome. dave chappel did a character in "white face" and it was also awesome. it's ridiculous to choose to feel offended(offense is ALWAYS taken, never given) because someone wore some makeup that makes their skin tone seem a different one than their natural skin tone. but the people of usakistan are retarded.....
They tried. It just wasn’t sustainable. They were routinely doing 14+ hour shoots on that show and Chevy just didn’t want to be there. Joel has explained the whole situation on a bunch of podcasts.
its obvious how important EVERYONE is to make this group work. you see the group feeling off when Chevy left. and then went to hell when Donald left too.
@@LtFrankDrebin100 The question to ask is why were they doing 14+ hour shoots and why wasn't anyone pointing out how inhumane that is? Look, I know that Chevy Chase had other issues, and I don't want to make stuff up which I haven't adequately researched, but I've heard stories about racism (irl, not just Pierce). But this thing about the super long shoots and Chevy Chase not wanting to do them: good for him. The other actors should have presented a united front and told Harmon they all weren't going to do it. Honestly, the more I hear about Harmon's behaviour on set and in the background, the less I think of him.
i had watched episodes of community randomly on late night tv back in like 2013 but it wasnt that many but i knew i thought the show was gold so one time when i was on a trip and my friends and i went into a shop i saw the dvd for season 2 on sale and i felt i had to buy it so i could finally just sit down and watch it and starting from season 2 i think was perfect because it really is the peak of community, each and every episode is hilarious and it being so funny made me buy the rest of the seasons. i think i have rewatched all of community not even joking about 150 times and im really not joking about that, this is hands down one of my all time favourite tv shows and i would give both my arms and legs to experience it for the first time again haha
I watched Community at the end of December 2021. I remember this becuase I was sick from Covid so this is what I would watch since my sister recommended me this show
Also Al Jolson was a white performer during the 20s, 30s and 40s (perhaps the most famous white performer in America) who was known for his blackface routines
The Hector the Well-Endowed scene is my favourite and arguably one of the best singular scenes of the entire show. Its bloopers are hilarious as well. Alison just has so much fun with it
I love the little detail at the end where Jeff and Britta are in the background while Neil and Pearce are talking, like parents making sure their kid is doing alright. Then as Neil turns towards them to walk away Britta and Jeff turn around in a hurry so it doesn't look like they were watching.
When you really look at it the whole episode is about trying to prevent a severely depressed person from committing suicide. There’s actually video on RUclips that shows how Dan Harmon essentially tricked NBC into allowing them to make this episode, NBC a kept saying no because they said it was too different from the safe and formulaic sitcoms they already had that had better ratings at the time. And I’m sad to say I’m in my 30’s and have never played D&D in my life. Not that I avoided it, it’s just that me and my friends were too into video games to play tabletop games. And none of us knew anyone who played.
The hardest part is getting started. My friends and I all want to play but we need a good DM who can kinda hold our hands for a bit while we figure out the basics.
It’s one of those things where like, literally hardly anybody besides maybe some terminally online people were actually offended by it. BLM wasn’t going out in the streets because of some Community episode, lmao. It’s just like Netflix and corporations and stuff trying to pander and make themselves seem “woke” not out of ideology or principal, but to make money. But yes, as a DnD nerd, I absolutely love this episode
but he was wearing black face...... to role play a race of literal black skinned people now brown skinned humans. seems like a legit reason to me.... because the world is fricken crazy today
It's possible that if you tried, you could maybe find a handful of people who were offended by Chang in his dark elf makeup, but I personally never heard about it generating any kind of outcry, so I'm not sure you could say that the episode was "cancelled" in the usual sense. It seemed more like streaming services acted out of an overabundance of caution rather than in response to actual complaints. Putting a simple disclaimer up before the episode would have probably been more than sufficient.
Have you guys watched a video posted by the maker of gravity falls dealing with standard and practices? Not exactly the same but its funny the reasons why certain scripts get revised or outright taken out.
The end of an era. I loved you and Abi together. I don't want to stir up drama and I know I don't know you guys, but you did have a great dynamic and I've missed your reactions together. I'm happy that you guys are happy but I ain't gonna lie about being sad that this is your last video together. Anyway, this is one of my all time favourite Community episodes. I'm glad you guys watched it. And happy to hear you weren't offended. I'm a White dude in his 30s who grew up in rural Canada so obviously I'm coming from a different place than you all, but I'm happy you were able to enjoy it. I love D&D. I play with a regular group and it's a great time. Our group is mostly women too. I feel like as a hobby it gets pigeonholed as something that women can't or shouldn't do, but it's a fun hobby. We always have snacks and drinks and have a great time. I encourage everyone to at least try it if they get a chance. It's like half boardgame,, half writing a story together.
Man i'm gonna miss you two together. You guys felt like a forever unity. Just hope maybe at some point behind the scenes of all the youtube stuff, the friendship can become even stronger. Thank you.
@@Sai.54x I mean it's not really my place to regurgitate what happened. I would not do it justice as of this very second I could not accurately repeat from memory the details. She made I think 2 videos on the matter about 3 months ago so just search on the video timeline so you can get caught up. I think frequent watchers knew at some point this would probably happen but I think we are all glad it happened the way it did.
Sucks this is the last reaction of you two together, but it's awesome that y'all ended it on this episode. I'll continue watching both yours and Abi's reactions of Community on separate channels.
Pierce unintentionally made Neil’s game more challenging and probably more fun granted he was having fun before pierce showed up but at least I could tell that Neil was an avid player and knew what they were up to and that it was a handholding experience but pierce came in and brought it up a few notches as well as gained a friend though in no way did he have to be as rude or ill tempered as he was or is
This is why I find Pierce the most interesting character. Other characters can have their special episodes, but any Pierce episode is basically a greek tragedy. He’s the misfit who doesn’t fit in with the other misfits.
I'm so glad to see this reaction - due to the removal a lot of people skip it, which is a shame because it's such a really fun episode that also covers some really heavy topics that make for great discussion.
It’s definitely in the top five episodes. The show was definitely intentionally courting controversy, following in the fooshtepshs of Blazing Saddles and Tropic Thunder. The biggest difference is 1) that those were movies and Community was a broadcast TV show. 2) Another difference: The main target of Blazing Saddles’ satire was racism. Tropic Thunder was parodying what was a common practice of casting white actors in non-white roles. It’s not clear to me exactly what Community was parodying with Chang’s blackface. Were they trying to provoke the easily provoked into a gotcha? That’s one possible reading. But then Pierce has the Al Jolson line-he sees it as blackface. The joke is hard to parse (which personally, I love about it) and the target of the satire isn’t clear. Is it people who assume that Drowface is blackface? The easily offended? Those people easily outraged by people who get offended? To me, it’s ambiguous. And that’s the difficulty. Primetime Broadcast TV serves the lowest common denominator and generally tries not to cause offense. An ambiguous racial joke that doesn’t spell out what the audience is supposed to laugh at is kryptonite to TV executives. That’s just how is. I think the idea to pull the episode was the wrong decision, but I understand why Sony did it.
@@ericv5435 fyi, Netflix also edited the episodes down. I think Amazon Video has the original length episodes. A few extra few seconds, here and there.
I didn’t find it offensive, either. But then I’m neither a Drow or an African-American. If someone does find it offensive, I’m not going to tell them they’re wrong (or worse, try to convince them their wrong). It doesn’t mean that they’re overly sensitive or easily offended. It just means that they have a different opinion and/or have a different sense of humor. Ultimately, it’s not up to me to say who should not be offended by the drowface joke.
Thank you for saying it. Its sad this episode was pulled. There was nothing racist about Chang being a Drow. When I saw the episode with my other black friends we all yelled "Drizzt!" We knew a drow or dark elf when we see one.
The episode was pulled in the summer of 2020. Companies were trying to be extra sensitive at the time, and Netflix went a bit overboard with this episode
Part of the joke of Chang's drow elf is making fun of people who have a knee-jerk reaction to it and in their indignance totally miss what's actually going on.
That Annie scene cracks me up since she couldnt even say penis in the sex ed ep 😅 As a DM I have boundaries I wont cross and sex in game is something I dont explain. I'll just say something like "you guys go upstairs and I'll leave to your imagination" or "the scene fades to black" lol
For the record, almost nobody was upset about this episode before it was removed, it was a weird empty gesture by the network that nobody really asked for. if i remember correctly, i think yvette nicole brown commented on it saying she disagreed with the decision too. I could be misrememberig that though
I've watched the entire series several times and never did I think that it looked like he was doing blackface or anything like that, nothing about the make-up he was wearing gave off a vibe that they were trying to be racist at all, it's sad that they made a decision that noone asked for and noone was happy about lol.
Love watching you have so much fun with this episode. It's still one of my favorite episodes of the entire series. I agree 100 percent there are too many people with too much time on their hands that they use to complain
Major kudos to both of you for actually knowing the actual definition of blackface. Even a lot of people who defend this episode, refer to it as acceptable blackface. To be blackface it needs to be a caricature of black people and black culture. So even Olivier's portrayal of Othello (a white actor using black makeup to play a black character) isn't blackface because there isn't the element of mockery. You could argue that it's inappropriate, but it's not blackface. Blackface is a very specific act, with a specific history of hurt and malice. Diluting the meaning to include other things you might find offensive reduces and minimizes the history of blackface.
I've got some fat news for you Fat Neil is one of my favorite lines from the show , i also like when someone asks about one of the gang's plans , what are you guys? the little Rascals? and Leonard says, I was
I was thinking about this topic earlier. Life kinda needs Pierce-es for people to overcome and to make them stronger. If things are too easy for you, you really dont appreciate how far you came when you get past/over it. Without mean people we expect everything to always be easy and whenever anything bad comes along we dont know how to handle it
it's been so long since i watched this episode cause it's removed from Netflix it's so freaking hilarious i totally forgot about the abed & annie scene lol
my favorite episode of his, he's an expert at the game and was playing his character, the evil guy and roleplaying it to the point everyone was hating him, and that is what his character was suppose to be. Dan was always mad that he was planning on making Pierce and Neil D&D player friends in future episodes but never panned out that idea and just left the episode ending with "maybe".
They only cancelled it AFTER it was on Netflix ( im assuming thats when it had a resurgence) bc it was Hulu for years ( which is where i watched it first) and im assuming Hulu also cancelled it bc they didnt want to look like insensitive buttholes lol .. as a black person this did not offend me but there have been black face depictions in modern media that have
Pierce is such a great villian when he wants 2. Chevy Chase at least deserved one nomination for various of these "villanic" episodes he did for community.
Lol I remember playing D&D with my COLLEGE FRATERNITY. If that sounds like a joke, it's not. Everyone of every clique can be brought together by D&D, people just need to be more open minded.
It was removed from Netflix and Hulu in 2020 during the George Floyd protests because of Chang's blackface (even though the show in no way endorses his blackface).
Nobody even complained about the blackface in this episode. It got cancelled by the streaming services preemptively to avoid potential criticism because some other example of blackface had just gotten some attention around that time and the lockdowns had just started around then so everyone was hunkering down in front of their tvs. I think it was 30 Rock or Golden Girls. Scrubs also ended up getting 3 episodes removed from all streaming services.
I always felt that Pierce's bullying & fat shaming of a suicidal person was way more problematic than Chang's non-blackface. Also him saying that he'd sexually assault the Ducane family was another moment. And I'm far from one of those d-bags that complains about *cAnCeL CuLtUrE* all the time either, but this definitely shouldn't have been cancelled. Although *I can* appreciate Netflix being cautious, but they should really rethink that decision. *Edit:* Annie's moment with the Elf Maiden 😂🤣😭💀
And this is why I just smirk when people give me guff for having the physical media, cuz "you can just stream it"; guess who's got all the (complete) episodes now, Billy?
Well it was portrayed as wrong, Pierce was the villain in the end, so I don't see the problem. It's a hard scene but It conveys a good message in the end.
I guess it's problematic if you're of the opinion that any depiction of any problematic behavior is in itself problematic. None of the characters were laughing at the bullying and fat shaming, they were all horrified by it.
I understand why people want to "cancel" this episode, but cant understand how they let every other ignorant racist remark Chang or Pierce has made slide. This wasnt done for the sake of progress but virtual signaling. I mean the ignorant statements Chang made in Spanish class is enough for someone to be tarred and feathered in the twitterverse... That being said this episode's message is far deeper than people want to believe. As someone who lost a family member and a friend to suicide, the act of trying to relate to Neil is such a great concept. The ending itself is even more beautiful with Neil asking Pierce to play some more, dude literally approached his bully and tried to bury the hatchet. The "I feel sorry for pierce" part shows us how sympathizing/understanding an aggressor can help heal our own pain. The positives this ep far outweigh the negative.
This is one of the best episodes of the entire show and the fact that it was removed from Netflix over such a nothingburger as Chang's Dark Elf makeup is a prime example of corporate reactionary behavior in the era of cancel culture. It fundamentally misunderstands what blackface is, why it is offensive, and its history in America. Which is, itself, kind of offensive. Glad you both enjoyed the episode. I've enjoyed your reactions!
The Al Jolson joke is funny cause it makes Netflix's decision to remove it even sillier. It's their second in-show joke about it being mistaken for blackface. It's also a double whammy for Pierce being old enough to know one of the most famous blackface performers ever. It was never cancelled by anyone and people who get in a huff about it "being cancelled" just kinda wanna be mad about SJWs or whatever the fuck.
I'm pretty sure nobody actually asked to get this cancelled, it's just corporations doing corporation things. It's extra gross when it's an episode concerning bullying, body image, depression and suicide. I can't even watch this episode without crying, but sure, let's try to delete this from human history just because some asshole from the marketing department thought that would be the optimal play.
poor Abi. Holds down the fort while you're recovering then gets told the channel is going in the wrong direction and causing you stress lol. Good luck with your channel...
This was actually an example of self cancellation. I forget if it was Netflix or Dan himself, but they pulled the episode unprompted by any groups or movements accusing it of blackface.
Part of the joke with the dark elf is how oblivious Chang is as well. They draw attention to it and acknowledge what it looks like while also letting you know it's not that and that the character just didn't think it through and then the one who called it black face was the old bigoted villain.
have y'all considered pausing it when you two start talking? i know its part of the anti-copyright tactic but a lot of great jokes were talked over, and not just in this episode either.
I do think removing this from streaming service was a bad choice, but I can at least understand that someone could feel uncomfortable watching this and choose for themselves to skip this episode A content warning would have probably sufficed
Content warning?? This episode is pretty tame compared to some of the stuff on streaming services. There are lots of shows that show graphic sex and violence but they don't get taken off the services.
at least in this divorce you two didn't get lawyers to see who got the rights to Community. but now it will be like going to one parent or the others house where we watch the remaining episodes with you two.
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oh shit I didn't see this at all! I'm so sorry to hear all that, you two seemed so close
may I ask why you two are separating?
@@theawesomeman9821 watch her videos about it. named 'going our separate ways' and 'my last response'.
Kudos to the actor who played Neil, as somehow in 23 minutes in an ensemble of people that character had a whole arc, and a lot of that was carried just by his expressions.
Charlie Koontz is the actor. I went to HS with him, he’s a cool dude.
His small role in one episode of The Boys was amazing too, one of the darkest scenes in an already pretty dark show
fat neill was in the boys.
sadly his participation was very very small.
I love you two. It was good seeing you together one last time
Apparently Alison Brie actually improvised a whole monologue about how she seduced the elf maiden during that scene and the recording exists somewhere but was never released
Ah she should have done it when they were doing table reads for COVID. I wanna see that someday.
According to Danny Pudi, it was hilariously filthy, just over the top graphic.
Was ok. Liked the simplicity of the instructions
The blooper for this also has her tapping morse code on the elf maiden's clit*ris lmao
RELEASE THE #BRIECUT !
It's a huge, huge shame that Chevy Chase was difficult to work with, and ALSO a huge, huge shame that Harmon didn't handle that relationship and situation better, because honestly, I say without exaggeration, this is one of Chevy Chase's best work (I mean this episode and the show in general). He is AMAZING as Pierce and AMAZING in this episode as the villain. Difficult to work with...etc, but I dont want to take anything away from his talent, I mean a good villain makes the story better and wow, he was amazing. Such a shame he couldn't be in the show for as long as the regular cast. One of the best Community episodes and the episode that got me interested in DnD (though I dont play it lol).
Also, agreed @ everything you guys said about blackface...etc. Action is by intention and we can clearly see that Chang wasn't even thinking of blackface when he put on that makeup.
It s huger(!?) When you know he s a avid dnd player , if i remember correctly
i agree with your assessment of this being chevy chases best work(this episode), and i think his best single line delivery was in the debate episode when he tells britta "how DARE you pity me?!"
i disagree about the whole "black face" thing.
snowflakes caused the episode to be canceled.
dark elves are not black humans, but the whole concept of "black face" is ridiculous.
robert downey jr played a role completely in blackface in tropic thunder, and it was awesome. dave chappel did a character in "white face" and it was also awesome.
it's ridiculous to choose to feel offended(offense is ALWAYS taken, never given) because someone wore some makeup that makes their skin tone seem a different one than their natural skin tone.
but the people of usakistan are retarded.....
They tried. It just wasn’t sustainable.
They were routinely doing 14+ hour shoots on that show and Chevy just didn’t want to be there.
Joel has explained the whole situation on a bunch of podcasts.
its obvious how important EVERYONE is to make this group work.
you see the group feeling off when Chevy left.
and then went to hell when Donald left too.
@@LtFrankDrebin100 The question to ask is why were they doing 14+ hour shoots and why wasn't anyone pointing out how inhumane that is? Look, I know that Chevy Chase had other issues, and I don't want to make stuff up which I haven't adequately researched, but I've heard stories about racism (irl, not just Pierce). But this thing about the super long shoots and Chevy Chase not wanting to do them: good for him. The other actors should have presented a united front and told Harmon they all weren't going to do it. Honestly, the more I hear about Harmon's behaviour on set and in the background, the less I think of him.
It’s sad that Chang, the one most committed and enthusiastic about the game got killed off really early.
Season 2 is peak Community (and some of the peak TV in general). Jealous you guys get to experience it for the first time!
I would give anything to be able to go back and experience _Community_ for the first time.
i had watched episodes of community randomly on late night tv back in like 2013 but it wasnt that many but i knew i thought the show was gold so one time when i was on a trip and my friends and i went into a shop i saw the dvd for season 2 on sale and i felt i had to buy it so i could finally just sit down and watch it and starting from season 2 i think was perfect because it really is the peak of community, each and every episode is hilarious and it being so funny made me buy the rest of the seasons. i think i have rewatched all of community not even joking about 150 times and im really not joking about that, this is hands down one of my all time favourite tv shows and i would give both my arms and legs to experience it for the first time again haha
I watched Community at the end of December 2021. I remember this becuase I was sick from Covid so this is what I would watch since my sister recommended me this show
Also Al Jolson was a white performer during the 20s, 30s and 40s (perhaps the most famous white performer in America) who was known for his blackface routines
The Hector the Well-Endowed scene is my favourite and arguably one of the best singular scenes of the entire show. Its bloopers are hilarious as well. Alison just has so much fun with it
Troy taking notes is still probably one of my favorite things ever, and then the "how long is that exactly?" at the end just kills me.
I love the little detail at the end where Jeff and Britta are in the background while Neil and Pearce are talking, like parents making sure their kid is doing alright. Then as Neil turns towards them to walk away Britta and Jeff turn around in a hurry so it doesn't look like they were watching.
I don't get how I just now realized this after how many times I've seen this episode!
When you really look at it the whole episode is about trying to prevent a severely depressed person from committing suicide. There’s actually video on RUclips that shows how Dan Harmon essentially tricked NBC into allowing them to make this episode, NBC a kept saying no because they said it was too different from the safe and formulaic sitcoms they already had that had better ratings at the time.
And I’m sad to say I’m in my 30’s and have never played D&D in my life. Not that I avoided it, it’s just that me and my friends were too into video games to play tabletop games. And none of us knew anyone who played.
The hardest part is getting started. My friends and I all want to play but we need a good DM who can kinda hold our hands for a bit while we figure out the basics.
More Creative power to Dan Harmon.
dnd isnt for everyone.
The reason this episode is cancelled is so stupid. One of my favourite episodes.
It’s one of those things where like, literally hardly anybody besides maybe some terminally online people were actually offended by it. BLM wasn’t going out in the streets because of some Community episode, lmao. It’s just like Netflix and corporations and stuff trying to pander and make themselves seem “woke” not out of ideology or principal, but to make money. But yes, as a DnD nerd, I absolutely love this episode
but he was wearing black face...... to role play a race of literal black skinned people now brown skinned humans. seems like a legit reason to me.... because the world is fricken crazy today
It's possible that if you tried, you could maybe find a handful of people who were offended by Chang in his dark elf makeup, but I personally never heard about it generating any kind of outcry, so I'm not sure you could say that the episode was "cancelled" in the usual sense. It seemed more like streaming services acted out of an overabundance of caution rather than in response to actual complaints. Putting a simple disclaimer up before the episode would have probably been more than sufficient.
Have you guys watched a video posted by the maker of gravity falls dealing with standard and practices? Not exactly the same but its funny the reasons why certain scripts get revised or outright taken out.
@@rocketdave719 yeah cancelled might've not quite been the right word.
Yay for people who recognize D&D dark elves!
The end of an era. I loved you and Abi together. I don't want to stir up drama and I know I don't know you guys, but you did have a great dynamic and I've missed your reactions together. I'm happy that you guys are happy but I ain't gonna lie about being sad that this is your last video together.
Anyway, this is one of my all time favourite Community episodes. I'm glad you guys watched it. And happy to hear you weren't offended. I'm a White dude in his 30s who grew up in rural Canada so obviously I'm coming from a different place than you all, but I'm happy you were able to enjoy it.
I love D&D. I play with a regular group and it's a great time. Our group is mostly women too. I feel like as a hobby it gets pigeonholed as something that women can't or shouldn't do, but it's a fun hobby. We always have snacks and drinks and have a great time. I encourage everyone to at least try it if they get a chance. It's like half boardgame,, half writing a story together.
Seeing the absolute joy of people watching this for the first time is incredible, love it!
Man i'm gonna miss you two together. You guys felt like a forever unity. Just hope maybe at some point behind the scenes of all the youtube stuff, the friendship can become even stronger.
Thank you.
Can you explain what happened to them?
@@Sai.54x
I mean it's not really my place to regurgitate what happened. I would not do it justice as of this very second I could not accurately repeat from memory the details.
She made I think 2 videos on the matter about 3 months ago so just search on the video timeline so you can get caught up. I think frequent watchers knew at some point this would probably happen but I think we are all glad it happened the way it did.
9:21 From "giant thumb in a turtleneck" to this, Annie has come a long way lol. Love this scene sm
Sucks this is the last reaction of you two together, but it's awesome that y'all ended it on this episode. I'll continue watching both yours and Abi's reactions of Community on separate channels.
Pierce unintentionally made Neil’s game more challenging and probably more fun granted he was having fun before pierce showed up but at least I could tell that Neil was an avid player and knew what they were up to and that it was a handholding experience but pierce came in and brought it up a few notches as well as gained a friend though in no way did he have to be as rude or ill tempered as he was or is
This is why I find Pierce the most interesting character. Other characters can have their special episodes, but any Pierce episode is basically a greek tragedy. He’s the misfit who doesn’t fit in with the other misfits.
I'm so glad to see this reaction - due to the removal a lot of people skip it, which is a shame because it's such a really fun episode that also covers some really heavy topics that make for great discussion.
It’s definitely in the top five episodes. The show was definitely intentionally courting controversy, following in the fooshtepshs of Blazing Saddles and Tropic Thunder. The biggest difference is 1) that those were movies and Community was a broadcast TV show. 2) Another difference: The main target of Blazing Saddles’ satire was racism. Tropic Thunder was parodying what was a common practice of casting white actors in non-white roles. It’s not clear to me exactly what Community was parodying with Chang’s blackface. Were they trying to provoke the easily provoked into a gotcha? That’s one possible reading. But then Pierce has the Al Jolson line-he sees it as blackface.
The joke is hard to parse (which personally, I love about it) and the target of the satire isn’t clear. Is it people who assume that Drowface is blackface? The easily offended? Those people easily outraged by people who get offended? To me, it’s ambiguous.
And that’s the difficulty. Primetime Broadcast TV serves the lowest common denominator and generally tries not to cause offense. An ambiguous racial joke that doesn’t spell out what the audience is supposed to laugh at is kryptonite to TV executives. That’s just how is. I think the idea to pull the episode was the wrong decision, but I understand why Sony did it.
One of the absolute best episodes in this show. SHAME on Netflix for deleting this episode. Good on Amazon for keeping this on.
Hulu took it off too
@@ericv5435 fyi, Netflix also edited the episodes down. I think Amazon Video has the original length episodes. A few extra few seconds, here and there.
good thing it's available free of charge in certain websites, without censorship.
One of the best episodes of TV. Teaching humans to overcome Insecurities
I started playing D&D due to this episode. I agree I dont think this is offensive I was thinking of Nightcrawler/Kurt Wagner too.
I didn’t find it offensive, either. But then I’m neither a Drow or an African-American. If someone does find it offensive, I’m not going to tell them they’re wrong (or worse, try to convince them their wrong). It doesn’t mean that they’re overly sensitive or easily offended. It just means that they have a different opinion and/or have a different sense of humor. Ultimately, it’s not up to me to say who should not be offended by the drowface joke.
That quick exchange between Pierce and Jeff perfectly sums up both characters. Just those two lines. “I don’t like being exclude Jeff, do you?” “Yes!”
Thank you for saying it. Its sad this episode was pulled. There was nothing racist about Chang being a Drow. When I saw the episode with my other black friends we all yelled "Drizzt!" We knew a drow or dark elf when we see one.
I’m going to miss your reactions together, but this was a great one to go out on!
HECTOR THE WELL-ENDOWED!! The stuff of legends
The episode was pulled in the summer of 2020. Companies were trying to be extra sensitive at the time, and Netflix went a bit overboard with this episode
They were trying to appease to black people as much as possible after George Floyd died
@@ericv5435 I don't think it's that simple, but yes, there was an overreaction by companies
Also, has anyone found the full-length, non-muted Hector the Well-Endowed scene- asking for a friend (who started taking notes late)...?
Not the full one but they've released parts of the unmuted stuff in the bloopers
Part of the joke of Chang's drow elf is making fun of people who have a knee-jerk reaction to it and in their indignance totally miss what's actually going on.
This episode is so heart felt and important.
That Annie scene cracks me up since she couldnt even say penis in the sex ed ep 😅
As a DM I have boundaries I wont cross and sex in game is something I dont explain. I'll just say something like "you guys go upstairs and I'll leave to your imagination" or "the scene fades to black" lol
For the record, almost nobody was upset about this episode before it was removed, it was a weird empty gesture by the network that nobody really asked for. if i remember correctly, i think yvette nicole brown commented on it saying she disagreed with the decision too. I could be misrememberig that though
I've watched the entire series several times and never did I think that it looked like he was doing blackface or anything like that, nothing about the make-up he was wearing gave off a vibe that they were trying to be racist at all, it's sad that they made a decision that noone asked for and noone was happy about lol.
This was the first episode I ever saw of community years ago, it got me to watch the entire series 😁
That is some great acting by Chevy Chase, thanks for reacting to this episode!
I totally get why Chevy Chase disliked Pierce's character so much..
And Imon's hair looks so nice.
I knew y'all would understand and enjoy this episode.
Love watching you have so much fun with this episode. It's still one of my favorite episodes of the entire series.
I agree 100 percent there are too many people with too much time on their hands that they use to complain
Thank Godness, y’all reacting to this episode
One of the best episodes of television. Period.
What an episode to see with the both of you together. Just checked Netflix and it's not there.
Major kudos to both of you for actually knowing the actual definition of blackface. Even a lot of people who defend this episode, refer to it as acceptable blackface. To be blackface it needs to be a caricature of black people and black culture. So even Olivier's portrayal of Othello (a white actor using black makeup to play a black character) isn't blackface because there isn't the element of mockery. You could argue that it's inappropriate, but it's not blackface. Blackface is a very specific act, with a specific history of hurt and malice. Diluting the meaning to include other things you might find offensive reduces and minimizes the history of blackface.
"Did someone say pegasus, a word I understand in every language" is a reference to taxi being the same in every language 👀😂
This is such a fun and creative episode. Also great reaction :)
Abed mentioning he’s bad at naming characters is so much funnier knowing what we know about Rick & Morty 😂
troy taking notes during annie's monologue is still the funniest part of this show
Damn bro. The end of an era.
One of the best Community episodes and it got cancelled for blackface that wasn't even true blackface. Jesus.
I've got some fat news for you Fat Neil is one of my favorite lines from the show , i also like when someone asks about one of the gang's plans , what are you guys? the little Rascals? and Leonard says, I was
I'm glad you 2 got to do this episode together
I was thinking about this topic earlier. Life kinda needs Pierce-es for people to overcome and to make them stronger. If things are too easy for you, you really dont appreciate how far you came when you get past/over it. Without mean people we expect everything to always be easy and whenever anything bad comes along we dont know how to handle it
Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened
The end of an era how sad
it's been so long since i watched this episode cause it's removed from Netflix it's so freaking hilarious i totally forgot about the abed & annie scene lol
that scene is so unforgettable though lol
Chevy Chase is such a great actor
my favorite episode of his, he's an expert at the game and was playing his character, the evil guy and roleplaying it to the point everyone was hating him, and that is what his character was suppose to be. Dan was always mad that he was planning on making Pierce and Neil D&D player friends in future episodes but never panned out that idea and just left the episode ending with "maybe".
first time I've ever caught that Al Jolson reference damn I feel young
Fat Neil was in The Boys btw
This episode was censored not so long ago, I recall this episode being just fine for years before that
Chang looks like Mr. Negative (from Spiderman) to me... But scarier.
Top notch episode 🙇🏽
My favorite episode.
They only cancelled it AFTER it was on Netflix ( im assuming thats when it had a resurgence) bc it was Hulu for years ( which is where i watched it first) and im assuming Hulu also cancelled it bc they didnt want to look like insensitive buttholes lol .. as a black person this did not offend me but there have been black face depictions in modern media that have
my favorite episode! it got me into community and d&d haha
i thought is was funny when Brutalitos? walked off into the distance and faded away like in some music video when someone dies
Pierce is such a great villian when he wants 2. Chevy Chase at least deserved one nomination for various of these "villanic" episodes he did for community.
Lol I remember playing D&D with my COLLEGE FRATERNITY. If that sounds like a joke, it's not. Everyone of every clique can be brought together by D&D, people just need to be more open minded.
Damn, THE episode
the only one to get killed off was the one who probably spent hours getting ready lmao
Nobody cancelled it, they just decided they’d be better off without possible controversy.
Wait, that's weird! I don't remember watching this episode on Netflix.
It was removed from Netflix and Hulu in 2020 during the George Floyd protests because of Chang's blackface (even though the show in no way endorses his blackface).
Nobody even complained about the blackface in this episode. It got cancelled by the streaming services preemptively to avoid potential criticism because some other example of blackface had just gotten some attention around that time and the lockdowns had just started around then so everyone was hunkering down in front of their tvs. I think it was 30 Rock or Golden Girls. Scrubs also ended up getting 3 episodes removed from all streaming services.
the best episode
I always felt that Pierce's bullying & fat shaming of a suicidal person was way more problematic than Chang's non-blackface. Also him saying that he'd sexually assault the Ducane family was another moment. And I'm far from one of those d-bags that complains about *cAnCeL CuLtUrE* all the time either, but this definitely shouldn't have been cancelled. Although *I can* appreciate Netflix being cautious, but they should really rethink that decision.
*Edit:* Annie's moment with the Elf Maiden 😂🤣😭💀
And this is why I just smirk when people give me guff for having the physical media, cuz "you can just stream it"; guess who's got all the (complete) episodes now, Billy?
Well it was portrayed as wrong, Pierce was the villain in the end, so I don't see the problem. It's a hard scene but It conveys a good message in the end.
it wasnt "problematic" it was driving the plot......damn snowflakes.
I guess it's problematic if you're of the opinion that any depiction of any problematic behavior is in itself problematic. None of the characters were laughing at the bullying and fat shaming, they were all horrified by it.
This episode got me into playing dungeons & dragons so it's upsetting that it was banned for such a dumb reason.
I understand why people want to "cancel" this episode, but cant understand how they let every other ignorant racist remark Chang or Pierce has made slide. This wasnt done for the sake of progress but virtual signaling. I mean the ignorant statements Chang made in Spanish class is enough for someone to be tarred and feathered in the twitterverse...
That being said this episode's message is far deeper than people want to believe. As someone who lost a family member and a friend to suicide, the act of trying to relate to Neil is such a great concept. The ending itself is even more beautiful with Neil asking Pierce to play some more, dude literally approached his bully and tried to bury the hatchet. The "I feel sorry for pierce" part shows us how sympathizing/understanding an aggressor can help heal our own pain. The positives this ep far outweigh the negative.
Annie is well endowed, just in a different way than Troy.
This is one of the best episodes of the entire show and the fact that it was removed from Netflix over such a nothingburger as Chang's Dark Elf makeup is a prime example of corporate reactionary behavior in the era of cancel culture. It fundamentally misunderstands what blackface is, why it is offensive, and its history in America. Which is, itself, kind of offensive.
Glad you both enjoyed the episode. I've enjoyed your reactions!
The Al Jolson joke is funny cause it makes Netflix's decision to remove it even sillier. It's their second in-show joke about it being mistaken for blackface. It's also a double whammy for Pierce being old enough to know one of the most famous blackface performers ever. It was never cancelled by anyone and people who get in a huff about it "being cancelled" just kinda wanna be mad about SJWs or whatever the fuck.
Still my fav episode of the serious
1:10 Seems Shirley is rubbing off on you guys lol
One last time♥️✌️
I'm pretty sure nobody actually asked to get this cancelled, it's just corporations doing corporation things. It's extra gross when it's an episode concerning bullying, body image, depression and suicide. I can't even watch this episode without crying, but sure, let's try to delete this from human history just because some asshole from the marketing department thought that would be the optimal play.
poor Abi. Holds down the fort while you're recovering then gets told the channel is going in the wrong direction and causing you stress lol. Good luck with your channel...
This was actually an example of self cancellation. I forget if it was Netflix or Dan himself, but they pulled the episode unprompted by any groups or movements accusing it of blackface.
I don't think Dan pulled it. I think it was Netflix
the snowflakes are everywhere in usakistan.
Part of the joke with the dark elf is how oblivious Chang is as well. They draw attention to it and acknowledge what it looks like while also letting you know it's not that and that the character just didn't think it through and then the one who called it black face was the old bigoted villain.
have y'all considered pausing it when you two start talking? i know its part of the anti-copyright tactic but a lot of great jokes were talked over, and not just in this episode either.
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Voidface
I do think removing this from streaming service was a bad choice, but I can at least understand that someone could feel uncomfortable watching this and choose for themselves to skip this episode
A content warning would have probably sufficed
Content warning?? This episode is pretty tame compared to some of the stuff on streaming services. There are lots of shows that show graphic sex and violence but they don't get taken off the services.
Andrew Smith I’m just saying it would be a better alternative to removing it from streaming
@@MythicalSkull13 Oh for sure I agree with that. Censorship is never a good solution.
This episode could never ne made these days.
at least in this divorce you two didn't get lawyers to see who got the rights to Community. but now it will be like going to one parent or the others house where we watch the remaining episodes with you two.
Troy taking notes during Annie’s seduction always gets me 😂
2:50 THANK YOU!
I've always said that but since I'm I've been told to shut up because I couldnt understand
Remedial Chaos Theory
"Faaaaaat!"
If anything he did Indian face
I love you girls you’re so cute 🥰