This is seriously a world class BH serve. I think the best thing about BH serve is you don't have to change your grip. I will start practicing this tomorrow!
@@TheButterMinecart1 não, como a bola volta na sua parte esquerda, você ficar reto na direção da bola e uma desvantagem por isso precisa se deslocar para o meio e fazer o drive ou topspin.
Good video, the skill to do the topspin serve with backhand with the same move as sidespin and undespin is so useful and also when Craig perform topspin serve with forehand, very very tricky to perform and a great service to surprise our opponents. I'll be waiting the second part, How to do a quality receive of those backhand serves, especially when it comes by the right side of the table with sidespin or topspin effect. Regards.
As always a great video and a very easy to understand instructions from both of you. Since I watch your videos, I work more and more on my serves. Really great! Keep it up!
As per norm an excellent serving video. Usual simple instructions, which make it easy to understand what you are doing. If I can master these type serves they will improve my game. Please keep them coming and very well done.
Interesting. As a lefite, I have intuitively always favored backhand serves as they force the mostly right-handed opponent into sometimes awkward backhand returns and added some spin to it, not knowing which type of spin it was. I think I've been alternating between top and sidespin for it and made up for my lack of variety with decent control (short, long, slower, faster and tweaking the spin accordingly). Nowadays I'm also trying to add some forehand serves while improving my basics
it would have worked for older players, younger kids nowadays goes bananas on their backhand and flick flick flick flick flick all day sometimes even when you serve to their forehand. Thank ZJK and FZD now I don't know what to do against those young b**gers
Always love watching your vids, as always manage to pick up something new to add to my game. But I was wondering, as a leftie wheelchair Para player, have you ever considered making any training videos incorporating Para players?
This is so well explained, Craig. Quality as always from both of you. Love that you also try to answer the questions. Thanks! I find the backhand serve really great for deception. Also great with the right sidespin, less people are good at receiving it. I do not get much spin on this serve compared with a pendulum, but I guess this can be improved. IMHO, it is much harder to get a thin contact.
henrik i Thank you! I think you’re right, if you spend more time improving the touch then of course you can improve it. Most players have a preference for a serve and it sounds like yours is the pendulum. Good luck with your service practice.
@@craigyb22 Hi Craig, thanks for the great video! In which area of the server's side should the ball first touch the table to make backhand serves most effective?
Dieter Frei That will change depending on the type of spin you’re using and the type of opponent you’re playing against. The backspin serve will need to be pitched a little closer to the net, then the topspin will need to make contact with the table, a little closer to you (not too much). Wherever you want the ball to land, you just need to bear in mind the movement of the sidespin.
One more question @Tom Lodziak and @Craig Bryant. How about making one of those old, dull forehand topspin videos? Yes, sure, there are a lot of them already in many variants, also on this channel. However, I think you guys work really well together and Craig has a unique way of explaining the details.
First thank you for making these videos, they are so helpful. I have been using a pre made stiga bat for about year and it’s pretty much super glue at this point. The problem is trying to decide what blade to pick as there are so many choices. Is there anyway you could do a video about this and also name good reasonably priced options as well?
Very instructional. Craig is an excellent server, who wins a lot of points on serve mainly due to the deceptive service action and resultant 3rd ball attack. Interestingly, it seems that Craig is holding the bat, whilst serving, virtually the same as players do during normal play. Most intermediate/advanced players appear to hold the bat between their thumb, and 2/3 supporting fingers whilst serving, then change to the traditional "shake hand " grip for normal play. This seems the case for most forehand serves, and indeed, a lot of players seem to serve exclusively using their forehand side in this way. Indeed I have seen a lot of very good table tennis players not even bother serving with their backhand, which I think is a mistake, as having variety and unpredictability whilst serving is a key element in anyone's game.
Look at Elias Ranefurs B-hand serve... Waldner also said that Kong Linghui hand one of the hardest b-hand serve to attack on, because of the low bounce.
Succinct as always, great demonstrations, hopefully this will help me add more variation to my BH serves. Looking forward to the 'Secrets from the Bundesliga' :D
Craig and Tom, these were great tips! I mostly serve backhand... One question though: I understand the rationale behind your serving position (have the short serve to the opponent's forehand) but isn't it dangerous because you have your backhand side wide open? Woudn't it be safer a more central position?
The logic is that because these serves have sidespin, it makes it quite difficult to return to the wide backhand corner. But of course, there is still a risk. Some players (myself included) do prefer to serve backhand from the middle of the table. Other players will serve backhand from the backhand corner. No right or wrong. Try out different positions and see which works best for you.
Very useful video. I used to do the backhand serves but now with this video an element of greater sophistication has entered into my serves. Although I follow the stance shown by Craig, I experimented with it slightly by standing on the backhand corner - I'm a right handed player - and serving the same serves same way but the placement is the BH flank of the opponent and I found that also is going to yield some good results. I haven't tried it yet in actual matches/games but will tell you as soon as I do. Once again, thanks for the video. I watch your videos regularly with great interest.
Yes, you could do these BH serves from any position on the table. There's no right or wrong. Sometimes mixing up where you serve from - BH corner, middle, FH corner can add some confusion for your opponent.
@@TomLodziak Thank you, Tom for your prompt reply. I'm a veteran player in the 70+ category. My active playing days were 60s and 70s. With rubber rackets. Wanted to but never got a Barna racket to play with. Now, I find has changed so much that I had to almost relearn the game. These days - that is, before the COVID19 outbreak - I play in the National Veterans tourneys. There's a lot to learn from your videos typical of the proverbial British commonsense.
@@vmmadge I coach man older players and they are always an inspiration to me. Anyone can keep on learning not matter what age. Hope we get to play some tournaments again next year!
@@TomLodziak Thanks, Tom. Wish I could train under you actually! Unfortunately from India where I'm situated that's not possible. But still online training is possible and that's precisely what I do by watching your videos. What I like about you is that you keep it simple and don't make things too complicated. Yes, let's hope things begin to look up soon and we can resume playing. Tentatively, our next Veterans Tournament is announced for February 2021. Let's see what happens. Best wishes for your channel.
Hi Tom and Craig Thanks for sharing these awesome techniques. I really enjoy Craig’s tricks. Coming to this video, what would be an ideal return technique for a right hander facing short backhand service on forehand?
Probably the easiest return for a short ball to the forehand is a forehand push. Although a forehand flick may be possible if you can get close enough to the ball.
I'm not quite clear where the ball should bounce the first time on my side of the table. Is it always the same spot for the three different serves? But it's a very good video. Thank you!
The serves is this video are of a similar length. If you want to serve short, then first bounce should be a little closer to the net. If you want to serve long, first bounce should be closer to your end line. Here's a video which explains this better: ruclips.net/video/-PzvHhRsWDk/видео.html
I love the BH Serve, but played today and had at least 10 fresh air shots. Is it my toss up, not waiting long enough, trying to put too much on it. I think the latter
Hey coach Tom, I saw a technical problem, while doing topspin, you are not stationary, your left foot also takes a step forward after arm movement. Am I correct...?
This is seriously a world class BH serve. I think the best thing about BH serve is you don't have to change your grip. I will start practicing this tomorrow!
I would say the best part about the BH serve is that you don't have to do a step around for the 3rd ball
@@TheButterMinecart1 não, como a bola volta na sua parte esquerda, você ficar reto na direção da bola e uma desvantagem por isso precisa se deslocar para o meio e fazer o drive ou topspin.
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Good video, the skill to do the topspin serve with backhand with the same move as sidespin and undespin is so useful and also when Craig perform topspin serve with forehand, very very tricky to perform and a great service to surprise our opponents. I'll be waiting the second part, How to do a quality receive of those backhand serves, especially when it comes by the right side of the table with sidespin or topspin effect. Regards.
Watching the clips of the serve in action makes them seem so powerful! Great editing as always. I'm going to use more backhand serves in my games.
Guys, I just love your videos. :) They are very illustrative and educational. Thank you for your effort and sharing your knowledges.
Yeah, they have many knowledges...
As always a great video and a very easy to understand instructions from both of you. Since I watch your videos, I work more and more on my serves. Really great! Keep it up!
Thanks. Keep practising those serves. It can help you win a lot more points.
@@TomLodziak you are a great teacher not like those guys in pongfinity
@@Гонджодарм don't talk about pongfinity ok
@@Гонджодарм lmao Pongfinity make videos for the fun of table tennis, not to teach you the technical skills, you can't compare these two channels 🤷♀️
Indeed.
Very good back hand serve instructions. I especially like all 3 serves look very similar and deceptive. Great video, thank you!!
Very nice back hand serve tutorial...
As per norm an excellent serving video. Usual simple instructions, which make it easy to understand what you are doing. If I can master these type serves they will improve my game. Please keep them coming and very well done.
Lovely tips by Craig Bryant.
Interesting. As a lefite, I have intuitively always favored backhand serves as they force the mostly right-handed opponent into sometimes awkward backhand returns and added some spin to it, not knowing which type of spin it was. I think I've been alternating between top and sidespin for it and made up for my lack of variety with decent control (short, long, slower, faster and tweaking the spin accordingly). Nowadays I'm also trying to add some forehand serves while improving my basics
it would have worked for older players, younger kids nowadays goes bananas on their backhand and flick flick flick flick flick all day sometimes even when you serve to their forehand.
Thank ZJK and FZD now I don't know what to do against those young b**gers
@@yudistiraliem135 As a young player you're absolutely right. I favour backhand, and use it as much as I can. My forehand just isn't as good
Always love watching your vids, as always manage to pick up something new to add to my game. But I was wondering, as a leftie wheelchair Para player, have you ever considered making any training videos incorporating Para players?
This is so well explained, Craig. Quality as always from both of you. Love that you also try to answer the questions. Thanks!
I find the backhand serve really great for deception. Also great with the right sidespin, less people are good at receiving it. I do not get much spin on this serve compared with a pendulum, but I guess this can be improved. IMHO, it is much harder to get a thin contact.
henrik i
Thank you! I think you’re right, if you spend more time improving the touch then of course you can improve it. Most players have a preference for a serve and it sounds like yours is the pendulum.
Good luck with your service practice.
@@craigyb22 Hi Craig, thanks for the great video! In which area of the server's side should the ball first touch the table to make backhand serves most effective?
Dieter Frei
That will change depending on the type of spin you’re using and the type of opponent you’re playing against. The backspin serve will need to be pitched a little closer to the net, then the topspin will need to make contact with the table, a little closer to you (not too much). Wherever you want the ball to land, you just need to bear in mind the movement of the sidespin.
The best teacher..!!! Thanks..!!
One more question @Tom Lodziak and @Craig Bryant. How about making one of those old, dull forehand topspin videos? Yes, sure, there are a lot of them already in many variants, also on this channel. However, I think you guys work really well together and Craig has a unique way of explaining the details.
Agreed! It would be good to get Craig's take on it. I'll add to my list.
I do my backhand serve something like that but will have to learn how to split it up to the 3 different spins and vary them. 👍 Thanks.
Another excellent demonstration from Craig. He is a class act.
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thanks to both, this is possibly the best teaching video about bh serves.
First thank you for making these videos, they are so helpful. I have been using a pre made stiga bat for about year and it’s pretty much super glue at this point. The problem is trying to decide what blade to pick as there are so many choices. Is there anyway you could do a video about this and also name good reasonably priced options as well?
Great serve demonstration
Thank you for putting this wonderful and helpful videos
Very nice informative tutorial, will apply.
Your teaching is too good , I am also a Bengal Table Tennis player ( defencer ) girl also 🙂 I really like this video thank u so much ...
Very instructional. Craig is an excellent server, who wins a lot of points on serve mainly due to the deceptive service action and resultant 3rd ball attack. Interestingly, it seems that Craig is holding the bat, whilst serving, virtually the same as players do during normal play. Most intermediate/advanced players appear to hold the bat between their thumb, and 2/3 supporting fingers whilst serving, then change to the traditional "shake hand " grip for normal play. This seems the case for most forehand serves, and indeed, a lot of players seem to serve exclusively using their forehand side in this way. Indeed I have seen a lot of very good table tennis players not even bother serving with their backhand, which I think is a mistake, as having variety and unpredictability whilst serving is a key element in anyone's game.
thanks for the video, enlightening!
Thats a big problem in my game, to serve and return the serve. I hope i can try this. 💪💪
Very good videos. Thanks a lot from Germany!
Thanks coach I will try it
Nice service technique ... And support me to learn table tennis, thanks you so much
good explanation from very good players... very nice video
Thanks broo... Iam watching from Indonesia
Look at Elias Ranefurs B-hand serve... Waldner also said that Kong Linghui hand one of the hardest b-hand serve to attack on, because of the low bounce.
I'm new to TT.. Started playing recently.. will try back hand spin henceforth 😁
Good luck
2 _years have passed, how is your back spin?
tanks, very nice technique..
i can try it, soo as
Succinct as always, great demonstrations, hopefully this will help me add more variation to my BH serves. Looking forward to the 'Secrets from the Bundesliga' :D
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Tutorial serve yang sangat epik
Sehat dan bahagia selalu coach
Table Tennis is my best. This game is my breakfast. Lunch and dinner. This game is my best friend in my life ❤
Instructive video - I hope these serves can be used in doubles as well,.
Very nice tutorial thanks!
Tom: I want to play around-the-net when Craig serve to my right, but Craig don't allow me to do so😂(Just kidding) 6:46
Thank you very much...of your exercise
Sir pls make video on
how to hold bat with paul drinkhall
Exactly what I needed. Thanks
First.. good video ;) I can learn table tennis thanks to you ! Thanks !
Your lesson is very helpful cause i have tried it with my friends its really effective.Thank you very much.
Craig and Tom, these were great tips! I mostly serve backhand... One question though: I understand the rationale behind your serving position (have the short serve to the opponent's forehand) but isn't it dangerous because you have your backhand side wide open? Woudn't it be safer a more central position?
The logic is that because these serves have sidespin, it makes it quite difficult to return to the wide backhand corner. But of course, there is still a risk. Some players (myself included) do prefer to serve backhand from the middle of the table. Other players will serve backhand from the backhand corner. No right or wrong. Try out different positions and see which works best for you.
Very useful video. I used to do the backhand serves but now with this video an element of greater sophistication has entered into my serves. Although I follow the stance shown by Craig, I experimented with it slightly by standing on the backhand corner - I'm a right handed player - and serving the same serves same way but the placement is the BH flank of the opponent and I found that also is going to yield some good results. I haven't tried it yet in actual matches/games but will tell you as soon as I do.
Once again, thanks for the video. I watch your videos regularly with great interest.
Yes, you could do these BH serves from any position on the table. There's no right or wrong. Sometimes mixing up where you serve from - BH corner, middle, FH corner can add some confusion for your opponent.
@@TomLodziak Thank you, Tom for your prompt reply.
I'm a veteran player in the 70+ category. My active playing days were 60s and 70s. With rubber rackets. Wanted to but never got a Barna racket to play with.
Now, I find has changed so much that I had to almost relearn the game. These days - that is, before the COVID19 outbreak - I play in the National Veterans tourneys.
There's a lot to learn from your videos typical of the proverbial British commonsense.
@@vmmadge I coach man older players and they are always an inspiration to me. Anyone can keep on learning not matter what age. Hope we get to play some tournaments again next year!
@@TomLodziak Thanks, Tom. Wish I could train under you actually! Unfortunately from India where I'm situated that's not possible. But still online training is possible and that's precisely what I do by watching your videos. What I like about you is that you keep it simple and don't make things too complicated.
Yes, let's hope things begin to look up soon and we can resume playing. Tentatively, our next Veterans Tournament is announced for February 2021. Let's see what happens.
Best wishes for your channel.
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Great video, some very nice serves!
Congrats on 100k subs!!
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Hi Tom and Craig
Thanks for sharing these awesome techniques. I really enjoy Craig’s tricks. Coming to this video, what would be an ideal return technique for a right hander facing short backhand service on forehand?
Probably the easiest return for a short ball to the forehand is a forehand push. Although a forehand flick may be possible if you can get close enough to the ball.
best moment in the video 5:52!!!!
Nice foot work at 7:00 :)
I cann better:))
you guys are the best, thank you
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Great Video again !
Thanks for this video I won the match in table tennis by this service
vksd Rathore Congratulations
Great video, as always
Sir please make a video for how to return the backhand Topspin serve because their is no video available on RUclips for this.
Very well explained!
sir video on forehand chop block .
please
Thanks for the help.
Thanks
Great guide!
Very nice video!!.....Thank you!
Thank you very much,master 🙏👍
Thank you for the tips.
Makasih tutorial
Service Tenis mejanya
Akan segera saya praktekkan di gelanggang
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Man that was very helpful thank you.
Perfect lesson :)
great tutorial .. thanks a lot coach
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Great! Thanx a lot :)
Great video 👊👍
Glad to see Craig IS HUMAN at 5.48. Like it!
good，i use backhand serve
Terimakasih pa tutorialnya buat nambahin varisi service
Great lessons. Thank you.
Wonderful clear I like very well thanks
I'm not quite clear where the ball should bounce the first time on my side of the table. Is it always the same spot for the three different serves? But it's a very good video. Thank you!
The serves is this video are of a similar length. If you want to serve short, then first bounce should be a little closer to the net. If you want to serve long, first bounce should be closer to your end line. Here's a video which explains this better: ruclips.net/video/-PzvHhRsWDk/видео.html
Great stuff 👌
could you include some videos of those trokes for penholdersʔ
sometimes there are some differences due to the ɡrip...
Oh please don't ask in this channel
There are better channels who can do that
But that's a good suggestion
I am hoping for that as well
One day, I hope to make a few videos for penholders. It's on the list, but not sure when I'll be able to do it. One day!
@@TomLodziak i am looking forward
Thanks Craig!
Wow! Can somone tell me what Rubbers is the server using? The Forehand and Backhand? Thanks !
At the time I was using Joola Rhyzm P. Now I’m using Rhyzm-Tech (still very similar).
Top spin variant is crazy, I can not understand how you do it
Thanks 😊
Terimakasih infonya
Good learning
I love the BH Serve, but played today and had at least 10 fresh air shots. Is it my toss up, not waiting long enough, trying to put too much on it. I think the latter
What brand rubber u use?
Woooww... excellent 👍👍👍
I am very like table tennis, almoust everyday play it, but a little progress😂😂😂
Very good. please keep making other serve and How to create different spins to fool opponent
I love's your product n also your video, bdw does it deliverable in India also?
Hi thank for the video how can I counter attack the effect ? Because during a game I am like the man in red, why?
Hey coach Tom, I saw a technical problem, while doing topspin, you are not stationary, your left foot also takes a step forward after arm movement. Am I correct...?
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Yo Nice for the tips bro!!!
Thank you.good Service video
i love this video. thumb up!
Great video :3
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