Taylor Builder's Edition 652ce Demo & Review | Our Favorite Taylor 12-String
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Chris McKee is back to showcase one of our favorite new guitars from Taylor, the 652ce. This Builder's Edition 12-Fret 12-String packs some incredible aesthetic appointments, from its Wild Honey Burst, soft satin finish, spruce/flamed maple combination, armrest bevel, chamfered binding, and compound carve cutaway-- all of the luxury we've come to expect from Andy Powers' Builders Edition guitars. It also brings some very welcome improvements to the common pitfalls of the 12-String; the V-Class bracing helps with the intonation and sustain, the shorter scale length and lower bridge placement helps with warmer tonality, and the bass-first string order helps you pack a punch with your down strums. Add a set of beautiful Gotoh 510 Tuners, and you've got a whole list of reasons why the 562ce is our favorite Taylor 12-String yet.
Demo begins at 9:11
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I just looked at this review again, and saw that my original comment was 2 years ago.
I’m still in love with this guitar. I have a 150E also, which I have in an alternate tuning.
My mom always said, “buy once, cry once.” This one is very special to me.
Expensive yes, but for me, it was well worth it.
A very, very nice sounding 12 string, and beautiful to boot!
Sorry Chris, I was one of those Guys who bought that Guitar from Alamo. Your right, I love this Guitar to Death. It’s awesome !
You're a real one!
Update: The 652ce looks awesome sitting beside the 614ce. Great tone. Returned it due to a factory finish defect. Looks like a buffing wheel burned the finish where the upper neck heel joins the body just under the fretboard. I may or may not reorder. If I do, it'll be from a supplier that will inspect it before shipping.
Just ordered mine today! I've been reviewing the 652ce Builders Edition ever since I bought the 614ce Builders Edition WHB about a year ago. I'll likely never have to buy another guitar.
Fair winds and following seas to all.
Hi Chris...I ordered 652 from my local dealer here in Pittsburgh, PA just as the COVID-19 mess hit in March. Finally received it in the beginning of June. It was worth the wait. Having another 12 string from the big M in PA, this one blows it away and your review was spot on. Thanks!!
Thank you very much! Glad we could help!
wow, lovely guitar, great review as usual. Taylor are just taking guitars to a level of I don’t know what, just fantastic.
Couldn't agree more!
Nice features, love the reverse strung-ness, but out of my price range. I did, however buy a 254ce because I liked the fact that it is a Rosewood/Spruce 12 string.
Thx for the great video tour of the Builder's Edition.
I bought one of these about a month ago.
I can't stop telling my friends about this. I've never experienced such a beautiful sound from a guitar before, and I own a 150e, and a 614ce, both from Taylor.
It's actually easier for me to play than my 614ce six string.
It's hard to put into words how it sounds. The intonation is perfect, right up the fretboard.
Pricey, yes. Maybe not for someone who has a mortgage, a car payment, and a family to support, unless you have the cash on hand.
We're glad you like it so much!
Beautiful playing and beautiful guitar
Thank you!
Around 9:55 looks like you really enjoy what you are playing! Beautiful sounding guitar
Just bought a guitar from these guys today. What amazing service! Thanks Alamo Music!!!
This guitar is insane. Best 12 string on earth. This is a guitar that makes me think about selling a family heirloom guitar to get this one in its place as the new and improved family heirloom guitar. Good job Taylor for making me even think those thoughts
Woww what a compliment!
That 652 sounded awesome in your hands
Most tech savvy reviews on the web.
My Guild holds tune just fine. It’s loud and jangly and I love it.
I have the older x braced 562 ce 12 and 12, in all hogg , absolutely love it
Great video, thanks for making this.
I meant to add that I will probably be purchasing the 352 CE If I can get a hold of one to play it. Love the way it sounds in demos online. Much prefer the Sitka spruce/sapele sound - Not planning on doing any recording with It that would matter.
So if one string breaks, you have to release both so as to replace the broken string? Mmmmm - not convinced.
As for tuning 12s - I've never understood the issue, especially with more recent 12s, and I've owned and plays 12s since the very early 60s. It depends if you try to tune each pair at the same time. In comments for other 12 string vids I've explained the system I use. Unless you have a 12 which is inherently poorly intonated, tuning is NOT a serious issue.
I own a 562ce and a Paul Brett 880PB. Tuning for both is almost insanely stable.
I have to agree here. Aside from the obvious, the setup and the maintenance of the instrument also plays a big part when it comes to the intonation. I've played plenty of 6 strings that don't intonate well. There's also a lot of room for improvement when it comes to tuning technique. Playing mandolin really whipped me into shape. I have a Taylor 855 from 1995 that plays like a dream and is in tune everywhere. But I've also maintained it and keep it in tune.
I learned on a 12 string, this guitar is beautiful, I would love to play it sometime. Maybe in the future I'll be lucky enough to own one. That's the dream.
Best of luck!
@@AlamoMusic thanks
@@matteo-nf1kv definitely wasn't easy. But I was determined, and had lots of friends that showed me different stuff.
This would be awesome if they did this body on a road series or 200 series guitar for a 1/4 of the price. $4200 is a lot to part ways with for some. It is a builder series however. I'd like a MIM one for around $1400 I would totally jump on board. I love the sound of this thing but my wallet would singing the blues.
Ya they can get pretty pricey, but they'll last a lifetime!
@@wattacoolguy 🙄 who cares about them. People will talk trash about anything... Man this thing with tax n everything would set me back a cool $4600. We will see. Im sure it will pop up at some point. 2019 has been a rough year thus far. Happy 4th of July! 🇺🇲 🇲🇽
@@AlamoMusic I would love a builder’s edition of the 254ce!
That’s my favorite 12 string but it’s out of my budget . I purchased a Taylor 254ce , it’s in my budget and it’s not that far off from from the 652 but if I could afford I’d i would buy the 652 in a heart beat .
Ya it's a great guitar, but the 254 is pretty great to!
Great video and very informative as per usual. Me personally, I still and will always prefer 12 string guitars with a larger body, nevertheless this model has a decent tone response.
Fair enough!
Very informative, thank you. 😊 I think this style of guitar may be the one. It is small and the sound has deep dark tones I really enjoy.
So why doesn’t Taylor use the “reverse strung” pattern on all their 12 strings? I like the sound of this much better… this pattern was good enough for the Byrds, George Harrison, and Tom Petty playing Rickenbackers…. should be good enough for us, right?
The guitar looks and sounds great. Great review as always. They didn't get a great book match with the flame maple on the back. I wish the flame was obvious all the way across.
Edit: spelling
Interesting take! We appreciate the comment!
I love this guitar 100% I Need this Guitar
We would recommend it!
www.alamomusic.com/taylor-652ce-builders-edition-12-string-12-fret-wild-honey-burst-spruce-maple/
Beautiful!
Thank you!
I recently purchased one from Alamo. Pre owned mint condition less than a year old..................
Thumbs up, ❤ should be a love heart button.
Wow. Amazing
Thanks a lot 😊
This must sound massive on a drop D tuning
I think the matte finish looks very cheap on such an expensive guitar. It gets even worse after some time, when some areas get a high gloss anyway because of the player's touch.
Hey Chris,
I always have been a great fan of Taylor acoustic guitars, however never had one.
Now, I am just starting to learn first and after that, I am going to buy a Taylor Jumbo 12 string.
I have been looking online, trying to understand Jumbo models, and specs of each model. For example I don't know the difference between 855, 655, 455 or 355 etc.
Basically, my personal taste would be a Taylor 12 jumbo full body (non cutaway) all solid, but not new...probably something from 2006 back.
I would like to know which models were available, which types of wood were used back there, inlays available, specs wise and etc.
Can you suggest any link, or provide reading material to learn all the differences between the models?
Or even if you can tell me the whole story.
Thank you!
What would I need to do to reverse string a 352/362? Possibly just order a nut and bridge for the 652?
I hate those tuners, lol, but everything else is just perfect. Any chance you can do a review on the 362ce 12 string to compare?
Will look into it (:
"That big body was there to counter act that jangly sound of a 12 string".... NO IT'S NOT; it was to enhance bass response and to INCREASE VOLUME. EVERY dealer knows these smaller body guitars have lesser volume output. When I considered trading my 458 for smaller body Taylor 12, my dealer was honest enough to say to me: "You won't like it; it'll be quieter than your bigger body 12". Word to the wise.
Does this mean that the Large 14 fret X braced Taylor’s are worse guitars? Why are they selling now on Reverb for more than retail? It’s because those “obsolete” Taylor’s have power and they also stay in tune as well. Bob Taylor’s design for 12 strings revolutionized the standing of 12 strings. Ask Leo Koetke. Are the Andy Powers 12 strings better? If you listen closely to the video you’ll notice they lack something…Power and Presence. They sound…delicate. They are easier to play, though.
Sorry, can't agree. Slightly more bass than the usual Taylor brightness because of the string placement switch, but almost shrill compared to a Guild F-512.
Thank you for the comment. I got the Taylor the day before yesterday but it sounds awful, like it's for small children, nothing voluminous in the sound and much too mid-range, too small a body, even the treble doesn't help, the sound is much too unbalanced. Shrill, yes. I'll send them back and have the Guild F-512 sent to me. It sounds much more voluminous. Even my Ibanez, which I bought 20 years ago for 700 Euros, sounds better to me than the Taylor for 4,190 Euros. Thank you for the tip!
A question to any of you.... I am looking at a closeup pic of the head stock. When looking at the low E and A strings, it appears there is not enough clearance. for he fat E to get around the skinny E string. Anyone care to comment on this? Thanks!!
How does it stand up to alternate tunings?
Well it depends on the tuning, but as long as you keep it within reason it should work haha!
Why did Taylor stop making 'premium' 12 strings with larger bodies? I assume it had to with sales, but it's disappointing. They're all so small now.
Just bought a 250 BLK DLX. A layered maple back and sides cut a way Dreadnought. If you can find one play it and then buy it. The only 12 string that comes near it is a Guild F512. Bought last week here in Southern England for £ 1289.
Agreed. I have an 855 from 1995 that I cherish. Very easy to play for a jumbo. It won handily over the Guild 412/512s I played over the years.
@@BradMaestas Funny thing about RUclips comments! I wound up buying a Talor 12 string!! Haha I got a 2011 856ce. The body isn't as small as I imagined, and it's very comofortable and plays like a dream. I'm in love with it, after years of being a Guild diehard, believe it or not!
Tried one back in March, not impressed with the sound although the build and finish is superb.
Fair enough!
@@AlamoMusic Hi Chris, just to clarify. I have 2 Taylors an 'X' braced 314ce and a Grand Pacific 517e, both are truly excellent guitars. I really wanted to fall for the 652ce and was gutted when I first strummed it, so disappointed, especially given the price. I ended buying a Gibson Acoustic Songwriter, which has a lovely 'shimmer' tone. Love your reviews, keep it up. Regards Ian
was it the guitars tone or was it your style of playing tone that never impressed you ?
@@kk-px7lu Took a guitarist friend with me and he was of the same opinion, too small a body, after a lot of fiddling with the demo amp it sounded nice, but unplugged not for me to 'boxy' a sound, no 12 string 'shimmer' that I was after. Such a shame as I really wanted to fall in love with the 652. But at that price you need to be absolutely sure it's the right one, the Gibson just blew it away, even though the fit and finish was not as good as the Taylor.
Well thank you for sharing and watching Ian!
omg........... what a sound? 😛😛😛🤪🤪🤔🤔🤔🤔
We're into it!
Sorry, but I have never played maple guitar that wasn’t much too bright to my ear. - Except for a Taylor that a friend owns that is 15 years old. I have played newer maple Taylors - not for me.
Played it at NAAM.... very bright and tinny. Prefer my Ovation Odamas
12 string acoustic, what sound did you expect. If you want bass, play a bass .
Well with as much hype as Taylor was pushing about having reinvented the modern 12 String., I was expecting something that kills my 25 year old design. Big Fat Fail
No... a 12 string is NOT more difficult to play. A great setup does away with those critiques.
How much bigger then the baby Taylor is this , can anyone tell me ?
The baby is 22-3/4" scale and the Builder is 24-7/8" (:
Alamo Music Center thanks so much. I appreciate that.
Well... i'm only 3.999,- euro to short..................... pfff
Yikes, I'm normally a fan of Taylor.....but not this. Small body sound on top of one of my least favorite tone woods. Fixing the intonation with the v-class bracing doesn't really matter if the overall tone of the guitar isn't pleasant. But, to each his own.
Check our the 362ce or 562ce with the mahogany top with really warms up the sound.
Either you are enormous Chris or that is a really small guitar
LOW e sounds out of tune
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I had the Taylor 652 CE Builder's edition sent to me. But it sounds terrible. To me. It sounds like it came out of a shoe box, hardly any bass, too many mids and the treble is overabundant. Terrible! In Germany for 4,190 euros.The low strings the octave strings are also on the other side like normal I don't know why and the fingerboard is too narrow for me. Both lead to an extremely bad playing feeling for me. Others may find them good, I don't. I'm sending them back and ordering the Guild USA F-512 E. It sounds much more voluminous to me than the Taylor guitar in. I played my old Ibanez 12-string for 45 minutes today and it cost me 700 euros at the time. About 20 years ago. I played myself into a frenzy with that one alone, and then I switched to the Taylor and it was pretty boring. I'm very curious about the Guild! Greetings from Germany.
is Torrefaction worth the price? Also is Maple a better tone wood for a 12 string then Mahogany?