Can non-pilots land a plane in an emergency?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- We tested the flying capabilities of non-pilots and a former pilot in a flight simulator to see who could land a plane in an emergency. Read more: wapo.st/41Zsvkm. Subscribe to The Washington Post on RUclips: wapo.st/2QOdcqK
Follow us:
Twitter: / washingtonpost
Instagram: / washingtonpost
Facebook: / washingtonpost
on a plane with over 100 passengers on board, i feel like the odds of at least one person having either a private or commercial pilot's license is pretty decent.
Not if you’re on Spirit 😂
Spirit doesn’t hire pilots. They just do a drawing and let the first person who wins flys lol
I am 13, obvi don’t have a license but I’ve “trained” on the A320 for over a year and know pretty much every system, so I feel that I could communicate and land the plane safely with a full stop, as long as it’s an A320
@@DFW_Spotter where did you get your training ?
@@DFW_Spotter I'm a 16 year old student pilot, and I don't see any sense in you being trained in an a320 at 13 years old without atleast having your PPL, like forget the ATP rating lol. Unless your dad works with the simulators for an airline, but even then you said youve been trained for over a year. Just doesn't make sense bud.
A bit misleading on the title don't you think? Perhaps more accurately the title should read "Can nonpilots and an ex-pilot land a plane using a flight simulator with two days of training?"
Yes and then they had someone next to them directing them. You wouldn't have that in a real life situation.
The legal team weren't keen on them using a real scheduled flight for the experiment.
The chances of this actually happening is 0.00001%.
And aren't we glad of that?
Can non-brain surgeons perform a lobotomy in an emergency?
no one does lobotomies anymore
100% they can, people in the medieval age used to do it all the time.
The real question its if they can make them survive
@@sunmal1599 No, their surgery was performed with a guillotine so that doesn't count
Now the same test is required for those "very confident" ones 😀
Appears as though they are lined up for the landing. Finding the airport would be the first problem
@@JustSayN2O they would have to give you the headings, the appropriate speed and rate of descent. Air traffic don't know those things. An experienced pilot who knew the aircraft could potentially guide you in
the first problem would be to establish communication. all this plays start with com already established.
Type the identifier into the FMS scratch pad and paste it into the TO waypoint.
During aerial photography runs a retired Coast Guard pilot really enjoyed the fact I was intrigued with flight, and several times had me line up to runways several miles out. When I'd mentioned the "might fall out of the sky" sensation I was having, he demonstrated that fixed wing aircraft WANT to stay in the sky :) It actually takes more effort than you'd think to get that plane back on the ground. Imagine finding yourself in that position with Lloyd Bridges and Johnny coaching you to a landing. "Johnny, what do you make of this???"
I could do this in real life… atc would walk you through everything. Making sure your flaps are fully expanded and landing gear is down is the key
Passengers who have managed to land a plane have been people who have had some contact with aviation either with people close to them or in simulators, a person who knows nothing about aviation is impossible to land a plane.
If i were ever in a position to successfully land a commercial aircraft safely, i would step out of the cockpit wearing an AC/DC shirt, the pilots hat on and the Styrofoam coffee cup in my hand, and well-wish each passenger as they deboard. "Thank you for flying with us, have safe travels."
I find it hilarious how they keep showing Airbus A220 footage despite the simulator being an Airbus A320. Heck, how many people know that the Airbus A220 isn't even an Airbus design, but rather a Bombardier CS100/300 that was purchased by Airbus?
And it's got 737 windows
it's not even an a320 ☠☠
that's not an a320 cockpit either. It's 737 windows, and what I assume to be an a220 screens/controls
That ain’t a A320 cockpit bud.
"Mentour Pilot" did an excellent collab about this with Tom Scott: "Challenge Accepted! Can Tom Scott Land a B737 By Himself?!" Much more detail why it could work.
I dont think it will work. Planes are different. The amount of stress and functions..too much.
I landed a space shuttle in a simulator at the Kennedy Space Center
This is not how things would be done for real, in such a scenario there would be a highly skilled pilot on the ground (ie: at Air Trafic control) in constant touch with you via Comms, showing you how to use the autopilot settings to maintain airspeed, trim, altitude and direction settings to get you to HOPEFULLY land the aircraft safely at the nearest airport
An elderly lady was in the news recently for landing a plane when the pilot was indisposed.
That wasnt a huge plane. Just 2 seats small plane
@@Kareena1988it is still pretty impressive
@@trevordylan9130 yeah. I wouldnt be able to do that
Indisposed!? what was he doing!!!?
Ground crews are pretty good at sorting out a plane landing, just needs a confident player at the yoke
Dunning-Kruger effect. Looks easier and a lot more to consider than what meets the eye.
Never had any real-world flight experience as a pilot.
I've simply spent a lot of time on MSFS. I'm a big fan of study level modern airliners, they're totally worth the money. Bought the Fenix Airbus A320 and the PMDG 737-700/737-800 as well as the ATR 72-600/42-600 turbo props.
I've spent tonnes of hours leaning on these planes, including the aircraft systems. I've written out my own checklists to start these aircraft up from cold & dark, programming the flight plan and take off configurations. I've also learnt how to fly an ILS arrival so definitely know how to get the plane to it's arrival airport, in these types of aircraft at least. I also have access to all the Jepesen airport charts around the world through Navigraph.
Fun Fact: The pilot & and co-pilot never have the same meal in case one of them gives you food poisoning.
The problem is that flight simulators don’t teach you the cycle of control or how to fly by attitude and power.
The video shows the sim instructor coaching everyone. How about show a simulation with no help? These videos are all the same.
If it was up to me, I feel that if the situation warranted it with my survival on the line, and I had people able to guide me through step by step, I'm confident that there's about a 20% chance I might be able to possibly land the plane semi-safely with sort of acceptable damages and injuries. Maybe. (And I'm being VERY generous with that 20% haha)
I often ponder this exact situation. Ive decided theres zero chance I'd be able to land nor would i want to risk harming others bc of my shortcomings. Id call in the emergency if i can figure out the radio and then jus look for an open area to crash out.
As a private pilot with instrument rating, I am certain I could not safely land a jet airliner on my own! The very first thing I am doing is contacting air traffic control and asking for all the help I can possibly get; get a training captain on the line to walk me through every single step!
yeah on a simulator I think many people could land, even I who just play MFS could land but the risks of failure is very high, in real life things are different, you have just one shot to get it right
Ladies and Gentlemen... Brace for impact! 😁😂🤣😉
Skill issue, I’ve played enough war thunder simulator to know how to land it backwards even.
I would love to be able to get out there and have a go at that training for the knowledge and confidence and experience to fly a commercial aircraft. It will be a big blessing to gain the experience and the confidence of operating a big aircraft.
Watching from New Zealand
If a non-pilot had to land a jet, their chances are basically zero. If a PPL had to give it a go, their chances are very, very slightly better than zero but still very low.
Zero is crazy work i would say some really confident passenger how can stay calm could land a jet it would be a hard landing but not making it deadly would definitely be possible
@@Gianluca-Russo18 if the aircraft was on speed, on profile, appropriately configured, with the approach loaded and autopilot engaged in the appropriate modes, then *maybe* a non-pilot could land it.
If a passenger had to program the FMS, operate the autopilot, manage the aircraft’s energy, descend from flight levels, slow and configure, intercept the approach and fly it, they have almost no chance.
A lot of GA pilots think of passenger jets like bigger, faster Cessnas, but they’re a completely different beast. The FMS alone is enough to put them beyond the capabilities of non-pilots or PPL holders, to say nothing of managing the energy stage of a big, heavy aircraft which has masses of momentum and inertia, and can be very difficult to slow down.
again and again, all this scenerarios start with communication already established....think about it!
I believe that with some guidance over the radio I could make a reasonable job of it. I work with heavy machinery & must be able to operate a huge variety of equipment, plus i come from an agricultural family where every day sees you operate different machines of often high complexity. On top of this I spent 36 years as an electronics engineer which includes several years in lidar bathemetry airborne survey & got to sit with the flight crew watching them land, take off & fly routes....
It is possible for anyone calm enough to step up and land a plane... but ONLY if you're in contact with assistance from the ground, and the right assistance as well. It's happened, more times than we'd imagine. Remain calm, and you have a chance. It is possible only. Things can still go wrong (even for experienced pilots) and you have zero experience to call upon, so anything else going wrong is going to be critically bad... but if others have done it, YOU can. With help. And a large dose of God on your side (or luck, if you prefer).
I'd rather, of course, never be put into such a situation... but I'd give it a college try if I had to. You're dead either way, but only one of those ways has the chance of you and others onboard walking away with your life. Might as well try.
What are you talking about? You dont know where the brakes are or what the names and functions are..how can ATC help you with that in short time??😂😂😂
Bootleg Laura Dern
Better chance of taking off.
I am 14 years old and I am 99% Sure I can land an Airbus A320, I have studied that planes buttons and everything, and I have flew it in the same simulator. But I probably can’t land a Boeing
I'm like that, but with boeing (I'd probably crash in reality😂)
This is a total Frankenflightdeck. A type rated A320 pilot would not be able to sit in this abomination of a sim and feel anywhere near at home with its boeing avionics. Whoever is taking this 'degree' is wasting their money.
I think she misspoke, looks more like an A220 to me.
@@glanzera you're right mate. It's not exactly level d sim, but it does resemble an A220 deck!
@@glanzera Its confusing because they say A320 yet have flying footage of an A220. They're probably those clueless fools who will mix up the A220/A320.
@@n1msu With 737 windows
Ahahahaha hold my beer
WAPO: Working really hard to keep it dark so democracy can die.
Yeah but 9/11
"i got 5 hours of MFS" literally the first thing he did was disengage the autopilot and stall the airplane hahahahaha I got like 10 hours in MFS and I think I could land a plane with help of ground control of course
I have 41 hours in actual planes, including solo time, and I landed a 737 in a simulator with the help of an actual 737 pilot. I think I could MAYBE land an airliner in an emergency situation if I had to, but even that would be tough for me, because jets just fly so much differently than small piston airplanes. Small inputs make the plane move A LOT.
@@videogameplayer0552 I know right ? I've seen several lands of a320 and the input the pilot had to apply to flare is minimum, I've always wanted to fly a plane in a simulator like this one of the video
In an airbus, id definitely need a recap on how to use the autopilot, because its different to the Boeing, im quite familiar with the Boeing systems from flight simulator, and i have flown a discovery flight in a piper archer, and flew for most of the flight
So id say, id definitely be able to land a 737, and id most likely be able to land an airbus, but i wouldnt be as confident in the airbus as i would the Boeing
On an aircraft equipped with an autoland system it is totally possible.
Common misconception.
Autoland doesn’t make landing an aircraft easy or automatic. It makes a task that’s impossible for humans to do possible-since humans can’t fly a plane and monitor instruments and the landing environment simultaneously in the conditions that it’s used.
It requires airport certification and for CAT III operations to be in effect. It requires a CAT III capable aircraft and sufficient equipment for CAT III operations. And it requires significant crew training and currency for them to perform CAT III autolands.
The approach has to be loaded and the modes and autopilots to be engaged and the crew has to monitor the parameters. If they are not nominal.. they have to execute a missed approach which is a very high workload requiring perfect crew coordination.
Can the plane land itself
It’s not like you can just click a button to land at the closest airport you have to dial in the frequency for the airport set the transponder to 7700 then capture the G/S and click APPR depending on what plane you are on and than turn on both of the CMDS. Set flaps do all landing procedure like speed brake arm and land lights.
I'll bet that anyone _could_ land a plane in an emergency if the user interfaces to the controls and instruments weren't so gawd awful.
No... The "user interface to the controls and instruments" is actually designed for ease of use. There is just so much information that the pilot is required to know that it requires extensive training and familiarization with flight physics, aircraft controls, and systems.
They're not that hard to use tbh
If you think these controls are “gawd awful,” please don’t google “Concorde cockpit” and go to images. New airline cockpits are actually designed with simplicity in mind. The reason the controls look so complicated is because airplanes have so many systems unlike cars, that all require their own buttons, switches, levers, or knobs to control. Anti ice system, cabin pressure, radios, elevator and ailerons, flaps, spoilers, the various external lights, navigation systems for GPS and VORs. There are also gauges to tell you your airspeed, altitude, vertical speed, fuel, etc. the thing with planes is that pilots have to be able to manually control everything because if an emergency arises, you can’t just pull over and get towed to the mechanic like you can with a car. Pilots have to be able to diagnose and resolve issues to safely get the plane on the ground.
The European Parliament on Thursday sharply criticized Morocco's Alaoui Makhzeni regime over the reality of press freedom in the kingdom, calling for the temporary release of detained journalists. He also demanded in a non-binding text "an end to harassment against all journalists in the country." Reporters Without Borders expressed satisfaction with the European Parliament's recommendation "after 25 years of complicity (...) and ignore any remarks about infringement of freedom of expression in Morocco." ... (Source: France Twenty-Four French)
What a stupid question! Of course they can try and with tower instructions, it has been done, often, and successfully. The alternative is to crash. I’ll take m cancel with anyone who wants to tr. 😳😳😳😳😳🤓🥸😎🥳🤪
Only on small, general aviation planes, that are many times more simple