Can a PA28 pilot land a 737?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- The Flying Reporter is thrown into the deep end, and made to land a 737 simulator, after a hypothetical emergency on-board, that leaves the flight deck crew incapacitated.
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Thanks for watching this video. I shall address a few recurring questions that have come up in the comments.
1. Why did you sit in the right seat?
It was easier to film this way.
2. You didn't set QNH.
The video is edited. During the exercise, I asked for the QNH and was given 1013 (which is in the video) but the aeroplane's barometers were already set to 1013, so there was no need to change them.
3. Are you sure you hadn't flown that sim before?
Sure! I haven't ever flown a full simulator, or even spent time in a 737 cockpit. I used to fly the PMDG 737NG on FSX many years ago, so knew the layout, and basics.
6:29 dude you say such thing about the thrust levers?
My wife always jumps in the left seat.
So you have to get used to the available seat which has the controls.
Right Hand ground vehicles.
Natural except in Other Places?
On a 737 the barometer has two modes - manual and standard, although the QNH was 1013 which is standard, the baro was still in STD mode. So if the QNH had been something other 1013, your altimeter would have been set wrong. ;) Nice job though and great video.
Respect. Riding shotgun and still have the controlls is a double responsebillity
Goof job. This experiment would have been more interesting if the controller was not allowed to see anything you did in the cockpit or any of the instruments/switches.
Motion 001: Autopilot disengaged
Tower: ok good luck 😂
"ok, let's pray" or "ok, you're dead" would have been more worrysome...
Motion 001: Autopilot disengaged
Tower: ok shit happens. you are on your own. i'm out.
I thought that was an excellent response too. THe slight hesitation. "OK....good luck" absolutely priceless
Why didn't he do a "go around" when the autopilot disconnected ??? From what I've seen / read on commercial flying, you want TIME to make sure you're not doing the wrong thing.
I presume because it was a simulator. Also he's not a commercial pilot and may have thought whilst lines up and ready the risk was lower than doing several turns in an unfamiliar plane.
Flight attendant: oh no the pilot & first officer is dead! Can anyone fly?
Some guy: move out the way, Don’t worry I have 400 hours on X-Plane 11
Gid Baddy that guy would be me.
To be honest if there’s no pilot on board that would make you the most qualified person to fly the plane.
I'd say you still cant handle the pressure that u are piloting hundreds of alive people
@@palasthazhorif8676 Sure, but who else should do it then? Everyone will feel that pressure and at least you are someone knowing a little bit more than others. So who else should do it? You need two people if not three in the cockpit. One who is controlling the plane by knowing at least the function of the most important systems and knobs, one who does the radio communication and one who keeps an eye on visual approach or visuals in general. There have been cases of crews being so focused on controlling for example a damaged plane that they didn't see where they were going on a clear and bright day.
Abahahaha
Plot twist, this was actually a very serious training exercise to the man on the other end of the radio line.
and he failed for not selecting auto break LOL
ok good luck
And his instructions caused a flap overspeed and told the pilot the qnh but didnt instruct him on how to set it. It seemed the private pilot would have been better off without the help of the controller
@@Muslim11234 "During the exercise, I asked for the QNH and was given 1013 (which is in the video) but the aeroplane's barometers were already set to 1013, so there was no need to change them."
@@Muslim11234 God there is an internet armchair warrior for literally everything isnt there?
The most unrealistic part of this was when he said Gatwick had no wind and clear skies 🤣
@@clinteastwood8485 are you a pilot? This guy is so I suggest you don’t write insulting comments.
@@videogameplayer0552 He was making a joke.
@@leonardusl5141 you don’t know who I was referring to. The guy I was talking to wrote a really insulting comment about the pilot in this video, but it probably got deleted.
british pilot.
instinctively takes the right hand seat.
God knows why. I’m a Brit PPL too and for sure I’d be in that left seat, if this goes wrong and we all die at least I got to be captain for a few minutes before the end 😂
anyone whos british and inexperianced with flying would be best in the right seat
americans would be better in the left seat
why? because you want to make this as fammiliar and easy for yourself as possible and brits are used to steering with the right hand and operating levers with the left hand amd americans the oposite cause thats what there used to in cars
also your spacial awareness would be tuned to sitting on those sides
Force of habit, maybe? 🤔Lol
Haha
I don't recall him telling the radio pilot he was in the right seat.
6:31 :( what did the throttle levers do to you
An Airbus 300 calls you a RETARD while you’re in the flare.
@-우유- it actually calls "RETARD RETARD" just meaning to check the throttle is at idle (or pull it back to idle if not)
Damnit! You beat me to my comment idea! 😂
@@peredavi r/woooooshh
@@sakamemes9876 r/whoooooshh yourself
Pilot: "Motion 001 - auto-pilot disconnected"
ATC: "good luck"
😂
YOUR ON YOUR OWN NOW!
I was a passenger on that flight to Gatwick. I did spill my drink during the landing and stained my chinos but I sure was glad Jon was there to save the day. What a day though, snowed fairly heavy even though it was a lovely day earlier. Chris
It's amazing how that weather can change in an instant!
Drink? No you just stained your trousers.. :)
Jake Heke no you cannot have the drink kimi
Well I was quite irritated to see him taking off another time "just for fun" while we were just about leaving the damn plane and celebrate our rescue.
it was a simulator so how could you on board
The guy standing behind you should've walked in and said "Good luck. We're all counting on you."
Gappie Al Kebabi reference to Airplane! The movie lol
Best comment here.
Nice
Panic entered the chat
And don't call me Shirley.
"Do we have a pilot on board?"
...
"Anyone with simulation hours?"
...
"Errr... X-Wing Alliance...?"
Me: 😏
This is awesome. You get to have the experience of landing it, but behind the scenes someone is having some first hand experience with guiding a plane to a safe landing in an emergency. As well as you not being an official pilot this is a great chance for the person on the other end of the radio.
didn't expect you here
the "someone" is sat behind him
What do you mean he is not an official pilot? People who only have a private license are not considered an official pilot?
Speaking as an airline pilot, you did a great job!
6:30 Hey! Leave them alone, they're trying their best...
Mr.Techaky LOL
😂😂😂😂😂
Where!?
I dont see it!....
Best comment 😂
3:39 I would definitely suggest that anyone in this situation DO NOT EVER "take the chance" of trying to choose the radio transmit button instead of of the AP disconnect button when you're not sure. There's always a radio transmit button on the dash (not on the yoke). Use that one!
Yup, the R/T I/C switch.
There will be no disaster as the AP on button is pretty distinct.
Agree R/T I/T.....Espeecially if trim is pitched down
Yes don’t touch the yoke
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the AP button require two presses to disengage? The first press sounds an alarm to tell you that there is an attempt to disengage the AP, the second press actually disengages it.
I'm not a pilot though... I just saw that happen in another youtube video similar to this one.
I think that the most important thing to do is to be able to get communications working. It is way easier once you have someone telling you what to do.
...over
Which is unfortunately very difficult for ppl who never flew a plane.
No one can tell you what to do 😂
@@JoseGonzalez-es2rm Why wouldn't ATC be able to help you, or get another pilot on the radio talking you through everything? Most planes now a days can land themselves.
Trey Forsythe at least in a lot of airports you couldn’t get a pilot on the radio as easy
the passengers fearing for their lives in the back... meanwhile this man’s laughing and trying to adjust his seat and having the time of his live 🤣
Only death is real...
Don’t tell them how the crew were incapacitated
@Peter Evans I am quite certain you are wrong
@Peter Evans I’m an instrument rated private pilot with 189 flight hours.
I still don’t think I would be capable of landing an airliner even with auto land.
Although the sim is pretty realistic the simulator is not real life.
I have done super well in the simulator and then mess up in real life during the flight lesson.
I have two parents who are airline pilots and they also agree it’s not as simple as what’s shown in the sim. Throw in real life factors and you have a situation that is far far more complex.
@Peter Evans I will add that when I was in high school and had accumulated 200+ hours of flight simulator without a crash, I told my dad I could probably land a plane if the pilots were incapacitated. You know what he did?
He laughed.
Yeah laughed, why?
Because as much as I had over 200 hours of flight time and roughly 10 hours in the Cessna 152 and approaching my solo i had 0 experience on any high performance or turbine aircraft had no idea how to use the systems, including the autopilot and was not used to how the airplane felt for manual flight.
Learning aircraft systems is crucial to fly safely. When I went from a Piper Warrior with am Aspen system and Garmin 430 to a Piper Warrior with an Avidyne system, an autopilot (one that was easy to use) and 2 garmin 430s the biggest thing I had an issue with was using the systems on the airplane and the autopilot.
When I started doing cross solo cross countries in my second flight course I never used the autopilot because I didn’t know how to. One of my instructors had to force me to use it because I had to know how to use it for the check ride and at first I messed up pretty bad using it.
That’s for a simple autopilot in a simple airplane that I had already flown.
Given that an airliner’s systems are far more complex, the plane is a lot faster, and that I have no experience flying a high performance aircraft I doubt I could bring one down safely.
You need a type rating to fly these things, and they have 2 pilots due to the workload and to prevent a situation where a passenger would be involved in the daunting situation where they have to try to land a plane. Garmin just won awards for their emergency Autoland because it makes it undeniably possible for a plane to land without a pilot on board.
It wouldn’t be a big if anyone could easily land a plane with some help from the ground. If they did manage to land it would be worth A LOT of help from the ground, probably with 2 people in the cockpit trying to figure out what to do and an instructor for that aircraft explaining what to do step by step.and that’s after ATC made the job easy by clearing out all traffic from the area.
It's interesting that amongst the multitude of things you were at least slightly prepared for, and the successful management of the flight in a complex cockpit environment, the thing which appeared to catch you out (and I suspect many of us other private pilots too) was how to move the seat :-) Nice video, Jon, thanks.
It’s the little things!
@@TheFlyingReporter such a tiny thing, but so important
As he said above, he plays fsx with the PDMG 737. Having also played this particular sim and aircraft package, it very realistically models all the systems and fairly accurately aquatints you with the cockpit, controls and many of the procedures.
So the cockpit and the procedural actions are something he already knows, but in the game you push a button on the keyboard to move your view forward and back, in a position you prefer. Therefore something seemingly trivial as adjusting the seat, talking to ATC, or going through the electronic flight bag would be challenging because those are things he would not have experience with.
“Uhh, autopilot disconnected”
“Okay, good luck” Why did this make me laugh?
After plying on all sort of simulators over the years, I finally had decided to get an actual PPL. Despite having no real cockpit hours it only took 3 months to get a PPL and mostly because of weather and timing. My instructor wasn't even surprised. He did say that loads of people come from simulators and pick up quickly, mostly because they already have the basic knowledge of flight dynamics and instrumentation.
I went further and got an IFR and multi engine OPS license too. Shame don't have much time to do it. Simulators definitely help.
same for people who play racing simulators and then go on for real racing
@@jonathanparle8429 I've heard and experienced this myself. However it only took a few hours to correct this, it came to me when i finally got the feel for the speed and bank without having to reference myself.
Did you find it difficult to fly VFR at first?
I came into PPL from full cockpit sim and spent a good few hours trying to stop staring at the instruments so much and actually fly visual
@@ChloeLouiseeB I can't say it was difficult, but I definitely wanted to tune VOR/NDB/GPS to be sure of where I was. I also spent a good few hours staring at instruments more than looking out the window. However I started to enjoy VFR far more after 4/5 lessons or so. It is a very good skill to be able to reference yourself to the map, without radio navigation. I also found it quite fun to do so. At first it was a challenge, but now it seems to be natural. For about a year after I got my PPL I had always tuned NDB/VOR just to be sure. I still do, but rely on it much less. Then that year I had an electrical failure, which basically made the aircraft cold and dark, only back up instrumentation working, and that is not a lot, just enough. That is when that VFR training got put to the test.
I had this same experience. My father is a pilot and got me FS2004 and the CH yoke and pedals. As I had flown with him I had some familiarity with cockpit management. Since I had planned on getting my license at some point, I took FS seriously. I only ever flew planes I would fly in real life and always planned that every time I sat down to play I would take off, fly and land in real time. When I finally took lessons for real my instructor commented on how quickly flying came to me and said FS really helped. He said the one downside to FS is that students tend to focus too much on the instruments as they can't see the world.
This dude has the benefit of being a pilot. The Mythbusters proved that with a pro in the tower, even those who have never flown can land a plane. So big props to the guy in the tower!
The myth buster guy saw someone do it first though lol
I think anyone who hasnt seen one of these cockpits before/flown before would struggle alot more.
@@Matt_10203 ill take that challenge
Anyone can do with ATC's help. The struggle is getting in contact with ATC. Well, actually no, the biggest struggle it to get in the flight deck, but after that, getting into contact with ATC.
"does anyone know where's the Carb-Heat on this thing???"
" It's next to the mixture control! "
"how do I check that the magnetos are on BOTH ????"
LOL!!!! I also hope it has the Hershey-bar wing from the 'D' series Cherokee...doesn't float so much on landing!
lmao
Right next to the prop de-ice, duh
I remember something like this happening in a movie. The pilots had a choice between steak or fish and they both had fish and became violently ill. A guy named Stryker saved the AIRPLANE.
Surely you must be joking.
@@jonkoenigs99 I'm not joking and don't call me Shirley. Love that movie. I sure picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.
“Mayday! Help me!“ “You freak first set your sqwak right, we live in a society after all."
Well you are supposed to do that in an emergency wether your radio works or not
"theres an order to things, after we go through this checklist ill find out how close to death you are"
An airliner wouldn’t bother changing the transponder unless it was out of radio contact
well, setting the squawk enables the controller to clearly identify the aircraft and it also shows the controller on a not so crucial system if the person is talking to knows the basics of the aircraft at leas somewhat (otherwhise he wouldn't be able to set the squawk and the controller knows how detailed he needs to talk the person through the stuff)
@B737FLY not on an airliner in controlled airspace
I’m a simple PA-28 pilot, I see a video with my equipment’s name, I click. Amazing vid btw
Fumbling with the seat adjustment in a cockpit must always be followed by getting launched through the ceiling by a giant spring.
BOINGGGGG
@@nathan87 You mean... "Boeinggg" 😉
@@dantheguitarist5823 Weird, I neither remember making this comment, nor do I really understand why I did. :/
@@nathan87 Guess it makes sense, as op was talking about being launched by a spring 😂
3 mins in and I’m loving this! You’re a legend Jon!
Thanks Lewis!
@@TheFlyingReporterAny reason you were not in the captain seatM
Graphics/visuals.
graphics/visuals over
I enjoyed that immensely, every second from start to finish.
Wow, that was thrilling. After every command from ATC, I was looking all over the instrument panel for the proper control. This was more fun than watching TV.
"Autopilot disconnected."
"Okay, good luck!"
NO PRESSURE
"uhh, autopilot disconnected"
"Damn right it did" *Opens beer can*
AMAZING VIDEO!! the last "good luck" almost kill me. Thank you for posting!
Great video...although it should be renamed PPL holder with hours in virtual cockpit of a Boeing flight sim lands plane! Still great tho!
There’s a big difference between Microsoft flight simulator and that. Anyone could fly a plane on Microsoft flight simulator
@@buildtestflyrepeat9428 the point still stands
Hey James, how’s your flying training going? I’m a regular on plumberparts...many top tips
The guy on the radio sounds like better pushback voice.
generic voice.mp4
you got that too! The British voice set
I see this is a man of culture
He sounds like Bane from Batman
Hand signal on the right...
My heart was pounding 5 minutes in. I kept reminding myself it's a sim. No luck.
That's how good these sims are:-)
@@ianrkav full motion sims are next level. You can forget youre even in a sim.
I was sweating like Striker in "Airplane!" the whole time!
I just want to let you know, we're all counting on you.
@@dr-mn7ld Any don't call me Shirley!
I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.
at least you did not try to blow up the autopilot
They're coming right at us!
Awesome video! Years ago I flew the 737 NG full motion simulator at a training centre (Ratheon? - close to Virgin Atlantic HQ) in Crawley - really enjoyed it - I recall one landing I did I applied too much reverse thrust + toe braking - all the training manuals fell over behind me in the instructors seat lol
Tower: Here are the instructions ....
AirforceProud95: Buttaaaaahhhhhh
0:18 That smirk tho... :D You can't wait for pilots to get incapacitated on your flight, admit it! :D
That grin when you successfully touched down on runway , well done.
I got the opportunity to get in the flight safety 737 sim at Riddle when I was getting my ppl. I flew many approaches in all weather and wind conditioned. I was able to nail most landings, but a few were quite catastrophic. The 737 is such a great plane to fly
go riddle!
Excellent work Jon.
I've watched flight videos during which the pilots of light aircraft and traffic control communicate in quickly-spoken coded jargon which is often hard to decipher. I loved that the tone and instructions of the traffic control spokesperson for this simulator were easy to understand.
"Thrilling experience"........ my heart has been in my mouth for the last 18 minutes!
Same here.
I’ve just subscribed to your channel. I’ve watched two videos, this one and the Guy Ritchie Compton Abbas video, both excellent, looking forward to the rest.
There was actually another case where both plane pilots were incapacitated, Helios Airways Flight 522. A sad mistake where mechanics performed a pressurisation test on the aircraft when on the ground and the settings were left on Manual. the flight crew overlooked the pressurisation system state on three separate occasions: during the pre-flight procedure, the after-start check, and the after take-off check. As the aircraft climbed, the pressure inside the cabin gradually decreased. This resulted in everyone being incapacitated expect a single flight attendant on the plane, As the plane flew in circles around Athens while on auto pilot.
Two F-16 fighter aircraft from the Hellenic Air Force 111th Combat Wing were scrambled from Nea Anchialos Air Base to establish visual contact.They intercepted the passenger jet and observed that the first officer was slumped motionless at the controls and the captain's seat was empty.They also reported that oxygen masks were dangling in the passenger cabin.
flight attendant Andreas Prodromou entered the cockpit and sat down in the captain's seat, having remained conscious by using a portable oxygen supply. Prodromou held a UK Commercial Pilot Licence. but was not qualified to fly the Boeing 737.
Unfortunately he was unable to establish how to use the controls of the plane and it sadly crashed.
There's an episode on this filmed by the air crash investigation series
EG EG Wow that is unfortunate. I am surprised someone didn’t notice maybe feeling light headed. Sounds like an interesting investigation to watch though
@@mercedesbenzformula1 that's the tricky thing with hypoxia: you won't necessarily notice what's happening. You'll become increasingly confused, weak, and eventually pass out.
Also, I agree: you should watch that episode.
10% Prodromou 90% flame out due to lack of fuel.
Just watched this episode and I think the main observation is that your calmness Really Helped! Good video 👏👏👏
I so enjoyed this video, you stayed calm and used all you various flying experience and did an awesome job Congratulations Jon ✈️
Flying reporter meet the flying journalist.. I cant believe I just found your channel.. great stuff
Me: "finally, all those hours in X-Plane 11 are going to be useful for something!"
An awesome video Jon and exceptionally well handled! Very enjoyable.
"The throttles are retarded" - Best thing ive heard all week
The production on this was incredible Jon.
Every time I fly I keep waiting for that emergency announcement asking if there are any pilots on board. I’m still waiting .... lol
Good job Jon. I was sitting in the back and having a drink. I could tell you were flying. Welcome to Gatwick!
This flight had the benefit of an experienced pilot aboard who understood the 737 cockpit. Well done!
Yes. Without that , it wouldn't have a good outcome for most.
I remember watching Alan Carter on the ITVV flight deck series. It was a Boeing 747 Virgin airways to SAN Francisco. Great video.
Most difficult part in this scenario would be to gain entrance to the flightdeck... If both pilots become incapacitated during flight with the cockpitdoor locked, there is no way you would even get to the seat. (Hence the Germanwings crash in the French Alps)
If the right code is entered and set to auto then the door will unlock after a timeout.
If you switch to deny on the flt dk door panel after hearing the chime and before the timeout then the door will not open, even not with the emergency code.
The german wings FO deliberately denied access when the captain tried to return to the flight deck.
@@micheldegroot5750 Exactly, normally staff should be able to get in.
Really cool video. There are several clips of this kind on youtube - but yours is clearly the best (content and quality wise). Great Job setting that 737 down!
I was lucky to try a 737 simulator same as this one as a gift. 2 hours flying time. I was knackered after. Brain working overtime.
Good video.
Awesome job and Kudos from another PA-28 driver from US. love your videos
I would honestly pay any amount to try a real simulator like this after using home simulators for the last 20 years
Have you checked the Delta Flight Museum in Atlanta? They have a 737 flight sim.
Me too
me too, I know how to use the autopilot on the 737 I think I could land with ILS.
Haha it's funny you say that... for us professional Pilots we would rather pay money not to go and do the simulators every year.. usually full-motion Sim 4 something like a King Air or citation jet can run around 1000 to $1,800 an hour
I'll be honest I feel like the systems and emergency procedures are really what you learn from the whole simulator experience. I don't really think hand-flying flying them without autopilot is very realistic because most of them are squirrely unlike the real aircraft
@@FlyingJournalism The Delta 737 sim is $425.
Really interesting to watch. I’ve also done a bit of Microsoft flight simulator and done some training at Compton Abbas airfield and often wondered if I could get a Boeing 737 down watching you I think I probably could 🤠
Here’s a crazy idea.......how about having him select a slower speed first THEN deploy flaps ???
Andrew Hammill
Oh really ? So if I’m going 400 kts I just throw out the flaps and THEN slow to flaps maneuvering speed ?
You could try that........once !
Andrew Hammill
No, again WRONG ! You slow first to a speed that would allow for flap deployment THEN you extend the flaps. NOT the other way around. What part of that can’t you understand ???
Andrew Hammill
Ok, well I’ve only been flying part 121 for 26 years and I have ALWAYS slowed to a flap operating speed BEFORE selecting flaps. If you do it another way I doubt you’ll be employed for very long.
Andrew Hammill
You’re not getting it - he’s not waiting for the aircraft to slow to the speed before he throws the flaps out. He’s setting the slower speed in the FMA and almost immediately putting out flaps. That was my whole goddamned original point sailor.
Andrew Hammill
1. Set a slower speed in FMA
2. Select FLAPS corresponding to that speed range.
I really think we are saying the same thing and yes I was referring to the flap overspeed - the aircraft tells on you and that could get you a trip to the Chief Pilots office.
This was fun to watch. The best message from this video tells me to stay calm.
TOWER: “Oh ye, well remembered about the brakes. My apologies.”😂
That’s so sweet you turned the xpdr to standby when changing squark codes!
Funny, this scenario lowkey was a fantasy of mine when I was younger. Well done
My God! Finding this video 3 years post and loving it! You were cool as ice and performed flawless. Just to be prepared, when I fly commercially I will be looking at all available materials just to be familiar with layout and positions of flight controls, ECAS and everything else just in case. Don't be scared, be prepared. Oh by the way, you definitely earned my subscription and the bell is on.
Props to this guy man, should of offered him training to become a full commercial air liner pilot ;)
I think this exercise was a good example of how being familiar with something can help someone remain calm enough to achieve a task they have never done before. The Flying Reporter is a pilot and is familiar with ATC and the verbiage, terms and way of speaking. That's already made communication easy for both parties. He's also familiar with how to fly a plane. That's from real life experience which also means he's familiar with being in the hot seat of a vehicle that is flying through air. Then, his experience of playing Microsoft Simulator is when you think about it, experience on a very simplified aircraft simulator. Put another way, an aircraft simulator is a grandiose version of a computer game. Obviously, it's not enough to qualify him as a 737 pilot, but simply finding the 'dashboard' familiar eliminates or diminishes any panic or excessive worry. In a real scenario (actual aircraft) the main differences that may affect his performance are noise of the aircraft and how the plane would respond to environmental factors such as wind etc. Lastly, if he really did have 200 passengers, I think that this alone would likely induce a lot more nerves than this exercise. I am no pilot or even computer simulator pilot, but it stood to reason that what occurred in this exercise was the logical outcome. Well done.
Brits even drive on the wrong side in airplanes. 😂👌🏼
Ye wtf xD
u mean fly?
how is that ‘wrong’😂 we could say the same things about you-
It’s because then he can reach the landing gear from his seat whereas he couldn’t in left seat
@@jessicaamay611 Wait til he learns that Aussie pilots fly upside down 😂
Enjoyed watching this. Very well put together, well done
It also happened to the Helios flight. (Apparently one of the cabin crew managed to go on O2, but couldn't get into the cockpit in time?).
That was the one that came to my mind also. Flight attendant with a commercial pilots license apparently, was one of the only people on board still conscious after loss of cabin pressure. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522
There’s a bit more to it, he was a very experienced scuba diver and the investigators felt that was likely how he managed to function somewhat when everyone else was overcome with hypoxia. He was using supplemental o2 on and off, he got into the left seat and was ready to take control but at that point it was too late and fuel starvation took them down. If he’d managed to get his brain functioning a bit sooner he would have possibly saved the plane.
He was a commercial pilot but he hadn’t built enough hours yet to be employed by an airline. Heartbreaking story.
Nice one john, I had the pleasure of flying a Boeing 747-400 in the Sim at BAs Cranebank facility some years ago, its not easy, but at the end i did get a certificate to say that "all the passengers were expected to make a full recovery" ! Love your videos.
GREAT JOB! I'D FLY WITH YOU ANYTIME!!! MAY GOD BLESS!!! P.S. LAST PLANE I ACTUALLY HELP FLY WAS A B52 IN THE AIR FORCE IN 1967!!!
I successfully landed a real A320 simulator by hand from a 15 mi downwind/base (no localizer or glideslope) at a major Airline's training facility in Atlanta just before I got my PPL when I was 17. I didn't have any instruction from instructors/controllers, but I did have some experience flying X-Plane/MSFS. I think I had around 50 hours in an older steam gage cherokee 140 (PA-28) at the time. Biggest problem for me was figuring out the approach speeds and how to read the PFD because it was the first (and only excluding non-certified simulators) glass cockpit I've flown. The whole experience was mind blowing!
This guy seems like he is pretty knowledgeable, im sure he could have figured it out without instructions, should have tried that!
The "He's not panicking," statement, by the 737 type pilot, is hilarious. Of course he's not panicking, he's on the ground.
Level d sims are real enough that your animal brain doesn't know the difference. You know you're safe but it is way more "real" feeling than any VR headset I've tried.
I wouldn't panic much either when I'm in a flight simulator, even a fancy one like this.
He’s not panicking because his job is not on the line.
@@s0ulfire that's a valid point
@@9HighFlyer9 depends on the person, i can't get immersed in something that doesn't use all my senses
Flight Attendant: Co Pilot, emergency please someone feels sick.
Co-Pilot: don't worry I got this
Loved it! Great video. I felt like I was along for the ride!
Incapacitated flight crew must have ate the fish! :-)
Maybe the fish ate the flight crew.... :O
I know. I had the lasagna.
Nice to see Alan after all these years. The ITVV Video of the Virgin 747-400 flight to KSFO was brilliant.
So I did this too , i had "communication" with a tower . I spent time flying for over an hour to get a feel and comfortable with controls after an hour and half I managed to land plane successfully.
you didn’t do this
i have never had an interest in flying planes or planes but for some reason here i am spending 20 minutes of my Friday afternoon watching this - i found it quite relaxing
I was genuinely tense watching this
Well done with your co-ordination, concentration and cool-headed attitude as regards this 'emergency' which seemed very realistic indeed!!!
Probably going to brace and hope mate because there’s a good chance no one can even get into the flight deck 😂
Surprised Helios incident wasn’t mentioned though when talking about crew incapacitation.
I've flown one of those simulators. At the end the instructor got me to have a go at the old Hong Kong airport flying over the Chequer board. Awesome fun.
@@lydiaanderson582 you are just saying hello to random blokes
I’ve never flew in a plane I’m definitely no pilot. But I knew almost everything you were doing because of Xplane. 737 is believe it or not the first plane I learned, and I’m not saying I could get in a real plane and fly it but I do know how to program the FMC and how auto pilot works. What a time to be alive lol
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The reporter did excellent. Congratulations. In real life is not easy, all the peaces are at play. Good job!
"hopefully I will be able to get this plane and it's passengers on the ground"
Oh you Will be able to get on the ground how fast will walk away from the plane is another thing entirely.
Great to see Alan Carter from the ITVV Virgin 747 DVD again!
Excellent... really enjoyed that. Microsoft Flight Simulator has come a long way since. You should really check out Flight Simulator 2020.... It is incredibly realistic
It's quite telling of the hype that people are praising it like this without it even being released.
@@lfox02 Yeah but they have watched all the videos! How can a sim with all that beautiful looking visualization not be realistic? But seriously, we all know nothing about FS2020 and maybe XP people are in for a surprise when it comes to the MS FDM, after all the "blade theory" FDM can't do really basic things (like putting the right amount of forces on airframe and control surfaces on takeoff and climb to require realistic control input, crosswind landings....) right on a bloody C172 either, even with external modules trying to work around the flaws. The free tweaked RealAir FDM for the stock MS 172 was way beyond that stage more than 15 years ago.
@@gerdpfeil "How can a sim with all that beautiful looking visualization not be realistic?"
GTA V.
**mic drop**
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid lol
I am obviously very late to seeing this video, but it is excellent!! Well done Jon! Honest, calm and very entertaining. This comes from a 737 jock. Good to know there are guys like you out there who can do the job if needed.👍
the passengers in the back fearing for their lives hearing him laugh hysterically at himself for not being able to adjust his seat: 👁 👄 👁
LMFAO A YEAR LATE BUT THIS SHIT FUNNY
The chair! Utterly brilliant ! Very candid
I'd really love to have a 737 experience, it looks really awesome
Bravo, very well done. Thoroughly enjoyed this and a bit of a change from your previous excellent flights.
We're flying to Venice, Italy in April Jon. Can you arrange to be on the flight just in case please? ;)
Steve Roberts I‘d rather be worried that the coronavirus wont let you return than a plane without pilot ;)
Max Mustermann Ouch 🤣
@@maxmustermann5639 that was a later development and yes, I am looking at the Italian coronavirus situation with interest.
Capt Alan Carter... I still have the DVD when he was flying for Virgin on the 747...👍🏻
I posted this on a different video on the same subject prior to watching this video ... only my view of course... I'd be interested in reading any comments from qualified people.
I'ma private pilot who flies a single-engine Piper PA 28 ... please make it clear how to quickly contact ATC, switching from the current setting, with a mayday call and fly the aircraft manually which I can do .. all I'd probably need is headings to steer, (as in the old GCA) ... constant and ongoing instructions for the altitude and airspeed required, ... enough info to have me line up with the runway .. approach speed, flap setting and how to lower the landing gear ... which I'd quickly find... possibly the go-around procedure to a 1,000 feet circuit (+_) ... and that would be it! Hopefully, that would work!
I have done several of the old GCA's ... ground-controlled approaches with no problems at all and this procedure would work. Yes ... instructions are given but I believe that manual flying is best for any pilot.
Nobody apart from an experienced airline pilot would be able to remember all of what you have said, especially given the stressful situation which exists and which relies on all of the onboard computer selections! For a private pilot ... manual flying stands a very good chance of success.
Love it, fantastic John! Have subscribed and also signed up with Patreon and am making my way through all you vids until we are allwoed to fly again. That's a really nice looking SIM as well!
Thanks Andy. And thank you for signing up to support on Patreon