This thing is insane! I love how you come up with solutions to any issue you find with any camera or studio situation. Your lighting and audio setups are just as creative and intuitive. Good job once again. Just genius....
What lense do you recommend for this set up? I'm thinking of getting the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon, Black (210101). Your thoughts. This is my first camera, I have very little experience. Thank you, Luis
Just purchased the 6K and Tilta Cage recently! Beast of a setup! Caleb, I have been watching your videos for about four years and I cannot tell you enough how grateful I am for all the hard work and effort you put in! Hope you’re doing well with everything going on in the world!
What lense do you recommend for this set up? I'm thinking of getting the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon, Black (210101). Your thoughts. This is my first camera, I have very little experience. Thank you, Luis
Note, it's not a coincidence that your HDMI port died, you fried it by powering the camera and monitor from the same source. You need to power them on sequentially, or just get a cable with some kind of a resistor. Even though this is an old video, you may want to pin this info somewhere to make sure others don't make the same mistake. Cheers,
What lense do you recommend for this set up? I'm thinking of getting the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon, Black (210101). Your thoughts. This is my first camera, I have very little experience. Thank you, Luis
The best part of owning a camera in my opinion (outside of shooting) is rigging it. You discover so many ways to add efficiency and learn new things about your camera and problem solving.
Love the idea with the tiltable vmount arm and the focus sidegrip rotatable. Besides that i have pretty much the same setup. The only thing i would change, is the position of the monitor. Get a coldshoe adapter and screw it on the front of the tophandle, this was the rig is not as high and also has a lower center of gravity
I am folding the V-mount batter under the rig: when hendheld it is like a foot under the camera, and on a tripod I fold it 90/45 degree downwards, and the screen is always free.
@@lllongreen No I saw it in another video from FlashFilm Academy. But be didn't link the item. I need to look it up at the camera, but that will happen after the pandemic.
@@Ioraek actually u can but no horizon level then and a lots of shakes , is eye level then put a camera on a shoulder and than you good, but deff not as he showed lol :)
@@fawwazallie7736 That at least is easily addressed - 4 inches of black draught excluder strip (couple of bucks from any DIY store) stuck on the battery.
I've watched damn near every BMPCC rig video on youtube lol and this is an awesome video and set up brotha. I've spent the last month or so piecing together a rig to purchase with the BMPCC 6k and finally pulled the trigger today. Utilized a bunch of the components in this breakdown (and your links). Love the channel too, just top quality all around.
This rig setup actually does away with all the other rig suggestions I´ve seen on RUclips... I really have a hard time seeing a rig for the BMPCC 4/6K that could be any better than this! Awesome!
Damn - I didn't know the camera could be controlled with monitor/bluetooth. Kind wish you could grab just a module for existing touch screen monitors (like a Ninja V). Slick rig!
cool rig, i can see a few areas we could improve - 1) HDMI lock - not having it locked is quite a dangerous way to shoot in action 2) top handle on nato rail - that way you can find the exact point where its balanced, very important if you want to use it with easy rig 3) the focusing system seems to be good only for this use -maybe it would be better to use something like nucleus nano in case you would like to use it with separate focus puller/or on a gimbal. This solution seems to be just as functional as just a regular old follow focus.
This arrive 1 year late but powering the camera & monitor from the same battery has proved to FRY YOUR HDMI port, I talked with our local camera dealer and they have seen many many same cases!
I'm excited to check out the updated guide! The original was really helpful before I got my Pocket 6k. Now that I've been making videos for a while, I'm sure the updated info will be even more beneficial. Thanks for continuing to make great content.
I could be wrong but, going d tap straight to the 12v input on the camera is what caused my pocket to become faulty for some reason. Ever since I’ve stopped doing this after repaired it never happened again. I’m starting to think more and more that’s what causes it considering you’ve had the same problem? I’ve since then started powering mine with a fotga npf battery plate to 12v input. I think when you use v mount batteries it’s probably safer to use a electronic v mount plate that has a labeled 12volt output.
Tilta has a gold mount battery base plate specifically designed for that cage where the battery plate is situated at the bottom of the camera, They made it so that the camera monitor is not blocked and have external monitor be used by the AC on side. Also folding the v mount battery up and down are two added steps for changing settings.
That fold up/down back-plate with the d-tap adapters was fkn brilliant! I thought my bmpcc rig was a step above the rest, happy to report I'll be making some upgrades :)
12:28 can someone put a beat under that? "Do what you gotta do, push it back up." For the more constructive part of my comment: This video made me to buy finally a proper battery solution for my bmpcc 4k. Having something in front of the screen always hindered me to buy a v-mount. I actually bought the stuff that were featured in this video regarding the folding v-mount. Thank you so much :)
This video is exactly what I wanted to see after the release of the BMPCC 4K. Thanks for finally making it 👍 Also, curious to know how this rig setup would change with Tilta's new BMPCC display modification....
Came back for the tilting v-lock, have played with mounting the vlock on the bottom for when you're shooting 90% of the time easyrig. Whats cool about this tilting mount, you could also use the wooden camera teradek mounting bracket on the back of the vlock plate and then for ease of use I use a Hawkwoods D-tap splitter that goes straight into the camera, so no need to mount separately
I noticed you said you fry your HDMI port toward the end of the video. Did this happen because of the grounding problem that occurs from attaching your camera and monitor to the same powering plate?
Personally, I found that using D-Tap connectors for both the monitor and camera power is is the problem. I don't know how exactly, but I have switched to barrel connectors. I haven't had a problem since I initially fried my hdmi port. Also, I use the 12v port on my battery plate for the camera, and the 8.4v port for my monitor. I haven't had any problems since using this setup.
I got the camera on a manfrotto plate - that manfrotto plate then slides into a shoulderrig (the one from smallrig) - and the shoulderig when not used is siting on a sony vct plate on my manfrotto tripod. - I am still looking for some kind og of baseplate that has 15 mm rods so i dont have to change modules betwin shoulder/tripod and handheld.
This is literally the perfect video and sign for me. I have been thinking about getting the bmpcc 4k for a while now and the fact that I am wanting to build a rig and you just posted this right now means it must be fate. Also if you anyone wants to buy a used Nikon D3300 or a Lumix g85 let me know.
Thank you for creating this video. Your content is always extremely informative and you are always up to date on the latest gear. . .I am subscribed. .. Keep up the great work!
I've had the SmallRig cage & now have the Tilta one, I'm wrestling with is the price of the baseplate, but haven't found a good alternative from other parts yet.
Either he was going for a clean look for the video or he might've forgotten to install the SSD on top of the camera, unless he uses a different method to capture data not shown in the video.
That tilta cage has an option for the top section to mount the T5 Samsung SSD and keep the handle. I was thinking the same thing, C-Fast is way too expensive, and SD is too slow.
have you ever experienced Ground loop issues with the monitor and camera being connected to the same battery? I've had this happen to me twice where the hdmi port gets fried from an unregulated surge in voltage. A quick look in the blackmagic forums shows a hell of a lot of people are suffering from this. What cables are you using to prevent this etc?
Mike Jimenez I’ve since ditched the Vmount plate for a dumb mounted one and plug directly into the battery using a multitap (Dtap board). This seems to be the proper way to do it. It has something to do with the smart V mount power supplies not doing their job correctly.
This is a pretty common issue among pro cameras. The only real way to avoid it is to make sure all video cables are disconnected before attaching or detaching power sources to the camera or monitor. There's a really informative post explaining it on the bmpcc subreddit, and there's a paper from arri explaining the issue in their cameras as well. I'd post links, but youtube just spam filtered it out last time.
Fried the hdmi... this is an actual issue with this camera, apparently a power loop when using one v mount for both camera and monitor. I wonder what happens if you connect the v mount to the monitor and supply power to the camera from the monitor instead of the battery. I’m actually afraid to try it out myself! So far have been powering camera and monitor separately.
Thats weird.. im running a v mount which powers my gh5 via dummy battery and my feelworld monitor by using a d tap splitter. Just got this setup but initial tests work. Im gonna try the setup of v mount to feelworld monitor and powering my gh5 with this monitor just to see if my v mount lasts longer then. First im gonna check power output of the dummy battery which is needed for my gh5 before popping it in ofc.
It works. But Ive managed to fry my hdmi the same way. Its a known fault when powering from v lock. For me it seemed to happen when I swapped in a fresh v lock battery. Probably created a surge and fried the hdmi.
No it's not. I've had a BMPCC4K since 2018 and power it and the monitor (as well as everything else) via a V-lock and haven't had any issues. I've power my second BMPCC4K via an NP-F adapter mounted on the cage and also had no issues powering the monitor at the same time. I think the major issue is to do with poor quality cables.
Hey i think you can make it even better, if you switch your battery for a NANO TWO from FX-Lion you can power your monitor with a 90° adapter and the usb-C port of the battery, that way no need for the extra multi DTAP cable/plate/plug :) ! i power my monitor like that and it work perfectly
Great video as always Caleb. I like the Portkeys monitor BUT running a wireless follow focus on a hand held rig is overkill and just adds additional cables. A good old fashioned mechanical follow focus is my preferred method.
These V-mounts and the cumbersome characteristics are totally unnecessary if u don’t want to bulk up to a cinema sized rig. I use a dummy battery to Sony NPF adapter mounted on a rail tucked next to the lens. 2-4 batteries get me through a full day of shooting and can be swapped out in seconds.
@@r.m.selvey6251 I use 15mm rails on both sides of the lens to mount what I need, such as the NPF battery plate that a dummy adapter is running power to the camera. Then I use the other rail to mount a handle towards the front of the lens which is a huge help with weight distribution. Unless you want to bulk up and flex or add a lot of weight, there's just no need for vmount if you don't mind swapping out a handful of batteries that take up a fraction of the space.
For the item links in the description: The newer PortKeys BM5 and LH5P appear to now support Bluetooth control without an adapter. The links to the BM5 product pages link to the prior, out-of-stock, version. LH5P would certainly be a great thing to investigate. Dimmer and no SDI, but $350 cheaper at time of writing. The Amazon link for the Intellytech battery isn't sold directly through them at this time. You see "recommended instead" stuff. Screen protectors for the camera and monitor might do well on the list. Thanks for this!
I am the only one who hates rigs? :-D Matter of fact, still using a Canon C100 and looking very hopeful into the upcoming C70. I want a "self contained" camera system, with no hanging cables, external monitors and batteries and so on. They are ok for people making movies on a set, but if you shoot documentaries, reports, if you have to travel, to pack and unpack the camera very quickly... a rig like this can become a nightmare.
I would put something mounted maybe in the upper part of the cage to protect the screen from the battery which when closed could slam and damage the monitor
THX for review! What do you think about these Gimbals: - Gudson Moza Air 2S - ZHIYUN WEEBILL 3 - DJI RS3 (Pro) What would be currently the best option to about 700-800 € for filming indoor and outdoor dance events, dance couples in daylight ? Camera and lens can be purchased flexibly - possibly Blackmagic Pocket 4k ?
Just a chime in... this rig is fantastic. But if someone already has a monitor and doesn't want to invest in this Bluetooth solution, the Blackmagic app is an unbelievable way to access your menus while shooting. Additionally with the app, if you have a script supervisor on set that needs to manage slate data, you can pass the phone or tablet off to them. Just a thought. This would free up $700 for these other amazing assets! Great video tho!
11:32 The HDMI died because it's dangerous to power the cam and the monitor from the same power source. I was wandering if this would be an issue while watching the video. Other people seemed to have that same problem. You can contain this problem by turning on the camera, and then connecting HDMI. And after you're done: disconnecting the HDMI and then turning off Power. At least that's what I heard. Even better would be a two battery solution.
My HDMI also died on my first BMPCC4K. It seemed to happen when I used a cheap Dtap on Vmount brick to power the cam... Anyway, it appears to be a thing that’s happened to a few peeps. Nice set up btw
yeah, I heard from 4-5 people already having the problem when you use the same battery to power the camera and monitor, that it can freeze. Luckily didn't happen to me yet.
Doesn't this rig feel really to-heavy when you use it? With the monitor on top of the huge top handle, it seems like it'd be a nightmare to keep that thing stable. Also, how do you shoot handheld if you aren't able to press the camera up against your body? I mean I guess you could do that, but then you risk putting tons of pressure on the screen via the V-mount battery and the cables on the back are going to constantly get crushed. I hate to be "that guy," I just don't see how this rig is usable unless you're only shooting on a tripod.
you are de 2nd youtuber I watch today telling the HDMI died on them, he said it was due to poor D-tap cable quality, but most people in the comments felt it was not, but most likely the v-mount battery was somehow sending some extra power thru the monitor and frying the HDMI output of the camera. Dis you find out what happened to yours?
This thread on Reddit might help shed some light. Personally, I'm just going to power the monitor and camera separately and avoid having to think about it. www.reddit.com/r/bmpcc/comments/lwyevp/powering_bmpcc_and_monitor_off_same_battery/
I think if you gonna invest like 5k into this setup for everything thats not a good deal. I think there are a lot of better choices in that pricerange that will not be as complicated as this. Still a good overview to see what good accesories for the BLCC4k could be ;)
An idea, why they do not make battery inside the Rods? maybe create larger section rods and put batteries inside, with some external plugs system. That way batteries are hidden and do not occupy other space around the rig. Also they could be swappable, like other electronics, you get 18650 or 21700, which are inside those bulky battery box.
Great setup Caleb. Pity those long cables make it look untidy. There should be more short cables on the market. We all seem to have that long cable problem. As always you are an inspiration to me with you high quality videos.
12'23> "nobody shoots like this"....well, except if you need to shoot someone without being in a low angle. it'salways the problem with those weist/chest handheld setups, its when filming people, especially in close shots, you end up in weird angles.
I don't and probably won't own any of this but watched the entire video anyway. It was like watching adult lego building. Awesome.
Lego is for everyone
Literally what I thought
This thing is insane! I love how you come up with solutions to any issue you find with any camera or studio situation. Your lighting and audio setups are just as creative and intuitive. Good job once again. Just genius....
What lense do you recommend for this set up? I'm thinking of getting the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon, Black (210101). Your thoughts. This is my first camera, I have very little experience. Thank you, Luis
That monitor module is absolutely genius. Idk how I've never seen that before.
Just purchased the 6K and Tilta Cage recently! Beast of a setup! Caleb, I have been watching your videos for about four years and I cannot tell you enough how grateful I am for all the hard work and effort you put in! Hope you’re doing well with everything going on in the world!
What lense do you recommend for this set up? I'm thinking of getting the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon, Black (210101). Your thoughts. This is my first camera, I have very little experience. Thank you, Luis
@@thepedestulz If you get the Sigma 18-35 be sure NOT to get the speed booster XL. Get the speed booster ULTRA. No vignetting will happen.
Note, it's not a coincidence that your HDMI port died, you fried it by powering the camera and monitor from the same source. You need to power them on sequentially, or just get a cable with some kind of a resistor. Even though this is an old video, you may want to pin this info somewhere to make sure others don't make the same mistake. Cheers,
I'm copying this set up. It seems perfect for a "one man crew". Love it thank you!!
Hey Michael, I am purchasing this set up. The video did not include the 15mm rods and the base. Do you know where I can purchase?
@@thepedestulz I got mine at Adorama. Check them out if you haven't. If not there check eBay
What lense do you recommend for this set up? I'm thinking of getting the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon, Black (210101). Your thoughts. This is my first camera, I have very little experience. Thank you, Luis
Bro, How about them Golden Eagles!!!?
The best part of owning a camera in my opinion (outside of shooting) is rigging it. You discover so many ways to add efficiency and learn new things about your camera and problem solving.
Love the idea with the tiltable vmount arm and the focus sidegrip rotatable. Besides that i have pretty much the same setup. The only thing i would change, is the position of the monitor. Get a coldshoe adapter and screw it on the front of the tophandle, this was the rig is not as high and also has a lower center of gravity
Man this makes my A7iii rig look like a toy lmao
I am folding the V-mount batter under the rig: when hendheld it is like a foot under the camera, and on a tripod I fold it 90/45 degree downwards, and the screen is always free.
Oliver is that with the Tikta tactical rig you can fold the battery under ?
Oliver is that possible with the Tilta tactical kit to fold the battery under the camera?
@@lllongreen No I saw it in another video from FlashFilm Academy. But be didn't link the item. I need to look it up at the camera, but that will happen after the pandemic.
This has to be one of the best rigs I've seen for the BMPCC. Thanks for sharing!
Just ordered this exact setup but w/ the 6k. Can't wait!
12:22 why you gotta call me out like that man
Haha, I felt that too.
Can someone tell me, an amateur, why not? What's wrong with filming from eye level?
@@Ioraek actually u can but no horizon level then and a lots of shakes , is eye level then put a camera on a shoulder and than you good, but deff not as he showed lol :)
what about an SSD??
I know right and god forbid if that back battery gets swung back to fast from production it can crack your screen.
@@fawwazallie7736 That at least is easily addressed - 4 inches of black draught excluder strip (couple of bucks from any DIY store) stuck on the battery.
This is a bit old but the side handle that holds a battery is also able to hold a Samsung SSD.
@@ghoulishjoe they have them but that’s not the model that supports it
How do I get the rosette fixed to the handle? Does the rosette actually come with two pieces?
I've watched damn near every BMPCC rig video on youtube lol and this is an awesome video and set up brotha. I've spent the last month or so piecing together a rig to purchase with the BMPCC 6k and finally pulled the trigger today. Utilized a bunch of the components in this breakdown (and your links). Love the channel too, just top quality all around.
This rig setup actually does away with all the other rig suggestions I´ve seen on RUclips...
I really have a hard time seeing a rig for the BMPCC 4/6K that could be any better than this!
Awesome!
Love your video's! Could you maybe go over your export settings for youtube cause your uploads always look crisp. thanks in advance
Welcome back Caleb! Another amazing video! That tilta grip is going on the wish list. Hope you and your family are doing well on lockdown.
What about an external SSD like a T5?
Damn - I didn't know the camera could be controlled with monitor/bluetooth. Kind wish you could grab just a module for existing touch screen monitors (like a Ninja V). Slick rig!
cool rig, i can see a few areas we could improve -
1) HDMI lock - not having it locked is quite a dangerous way to shoot in action
2) top handle on nato rail - that way you can find the exact point where its balanced, very important if you want to use it with easy rig
3) the focusing system seems to be good only for this use -maybe it would be better to use something like nucleus nano in case you would like to use it with separate focus puller/or on a gimbal. This solution seems to be just as functional as just a regular old follow focus.
This is a nucleus nano, so he still has the wielesse wooden focus wheel. This focus side handle is just an additional part.
@@DERLEO in that case its quite smart solution
good to see the videos again! hope your back is healing quickly
This arrive 1 year late but powering the camera & monitor from the same battery has proved to FRY YOUR HDMI port, I talked with our local camera dealer and they have seen many many same cases!
That rig looks functional and much needed 🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾 Thank you for the walk through and the detailed list 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Since I already have a Ninja V, I use that as a monitor, and use the phone app to control all the settings on the camera.
Wait how does that work? Got the Ninja V but didn’t know about either the phone app or being able to control things.
@@sage_morei I used the Ninja V as just the monitor, and I use the Black Magic phone app to control the Blackmagic camera.
The monitor issue was resolved officially by tilta a few hours ago.
What monitor issue?
@@nicklong7442 the flip issue
Chris Allard Films still can’t see the bloody thing outside!
I'm excited to check out the updated guide! The original was really helpful before I got my Pocket 6k. Now that I've been making videos for a while, I'm sure the updated info will be even more beneficial. Thanks for continuing to make great content.
I could be wrong but, going d tap straight to the 12v input on the camera is what caused my pocket to become faulty for some reason. Ever since I’ve stopped doing this after repaired it never happened again. I’m starting to think more and more that’s what causes it considering you’ve had the same problem? I’ve since then started powering mine with a fotga npf battery plate to 12v input.
I think when you use v mount batteries it’s probably safer to use a electronic v mount plate that has a labeled 12volt output.
Tilta has a gold mount battery base plate specifically designed for that cage where the battery plate is situated at the bottom of the camera, They made it so that the camera monitor is not blocked and have external monitor be used by the AC on side. Also folding the v mount battery up and down are two added steps for changing settings.
That fold up/down back-plate with the d-tap adapters was fkn brilliant! I thought my bmpcc rig was a step above the rest, happy to report I'll be making some upgrades :)
12:28 can someone put a beat under that? "Do what you gotta do, push it back up."
For the more constructive part of my comment: This video made me to buy finally a proper battery solution for my bmpcc 4k. Having something in front of the screen always hindered me to buy a v-mount. I actually bought the stuff that were featured in this video regarding the folding v-mount. Thank you so much :)
So many great ideas here. Thanks for this, it's excellent.
The TILTAING flip screen mod for both the 4K and 6K cuts down the need for excessive amounts of accessories/paraphernalia. Regards
Paul J. Burns did they magically make the screen brighter too?
How would I attach a mic to this setup?
Thanks
Best engaging voice and explanations on camera gear I have come across. 🙏 I want it all
12:29 Nice "Vitas - The 7th Element" cover!
This video is exactly what I wanted to see after the release of the BMPCC 4K. Thanks for finally making it 👍 Also, curious to know how this rig setup would change with Tilta's new BMPCC display modification....
Came back for the tilting v-lock, have played with mounting the vlock on the bottom for when you're shooting 90% of the time easyrig. Whats cool about this tilting mount, you could also use the wooden camera teradek mounting bracket on the back of the vlock plate and then for ease of use I use a Hawkwoods D-tap splitter that goes straight into the camera, so no need to mount separately
I noticed you said you fry your HDMI port toward the end of the video. Did this happen because of the grounding problem that occurs from attaching your camera and monitor to the same powering plate?
kushagra K what’s the correct setup?
Personally, I found that using D-Tap connectors for both the monitor and camera power is is the problem. I don't know how exactly, but I have switched to barrel connectors. I haven't had a problem since I initially fried my hdmi port. Also, I use the 12v port on my battery plate for the camera, and the 8.4v port for my monitor. I haven't had any problems since using this setup.
@@hylczr Can you link the parts you used to make this power setup? Would appreciate it greatly!
Great instruction, what I missed is how to shoulder this setup. Probably need a different configuration.
I got the camera on a manfrotto plate - that manfrotto plate then slides into a shoulderrig (the one from smallrig) - and the shoulderig when not used is siting on a sony vct plate on my manfrotto tripod. - I am still looking for some kind og of baseplate that has 15 mm rods so i dont have to change modules betwin shoulder/tripod and handheld.
This is literally the perfect video and sign for me. I have been thinking about getting the bmpcc 4k for a while now and the fact that I am wanting to build a rig and you just posted this right now means it must be fate. Also if you anyone wants to buy a used Nikon D3300 or a Lumix g85 let me know.
Thank you for creating this video. Your content is always extremely informative and you are always up to date on the latest gear. . .I am subscribed. ..
Keep up the great work!
welcome back caleb..glad ur feeling better...i love these camera..im broke lol...in the future i will get one
This video is a life saver I need this rig and follow focus handle
Beautiful rig. Keeping it simple.
Pretty neat toy cinema camera lol. 🎥🤔
Nice setup. Love the follow focus setup.
I've had the SmallRig cage & now have the Tilta one, I'm wrestling with is the price of the baseplate, but haven't found a good alternative from other parts yet.
There are screw holes in bottom. The cheapest you can go is attatch a plate of your preference there
Thank you for very good inspiration ... even me not having the money for all the supplies (but some) ;-)
Thank you so much for the Ultimate (BMPCC4K) Rig breakdown. I appreciate it!
Is there any worry or considerations using D Tap splitters regarding voltage or amps?
Digging the intro vibes here with the fast paced music
Okay, I am not seeing something or you didn't put an SSD on the rig. So how do you record, what did I miss?
Either he was going for a clean look for the video or he might've forgotten to install the SSD on top of the camera, unless he uses a different method to capture data not shown in the video.
You can shoot BRAW to SD or CFast cards.
... The camera has both an SD and C-Fast card slot.
@@MrBobthened using the 6K with with a cfast/SD card? They make 2tb card for 6k 60fps?
That tilta cage has an option for the top section to mount the T5 Samsung SSD and keep the handle.
I was thinking the same thing, C-Fast is way too expensive, and SD is too slow.
Finally I've been waiting for one of your videos to come out! Hahaha
have you ever experienced Ground loop issues with the monitor and camera being connected to the same battery? I've had this happen to me twice where the hdmi port gets fried from an unregulated surge in voltage. A quick look in the blackmagic forums shows a hell of a lot of people are suffering from this. What cables are you using to prevent this etc?
Lee Thomas maybe that’s what happened at 11:38
I need to know this as well! For now I’ll be running the tiny batteries inside the body until I make sure to be safe!
Mike Jimenez I’ve since ditched the Vmount plate for a dumb mounted one and plug directly into the battery using a multitap (Dtap board). This seems to be the proper way to do it. It has something to do with the smart V mount power supplies not doing their job correctly.
This is a pretty common issue among pro cameras. The only real way to avoid it is to make sure all video cables are disconnected before attaching or detaching power sources to the camera or monitor. There's a really informative post explaining it on the bmpcc subreddit, and there's a paper from arri explaining the issue in their cameras as well. I'd post links, but youtube just spam filtered it out last time.
Anyone know the make/model of the table top tripod and swivel head? It is not shown on his list that I could see.
What lens is that?
Fried the hdmi... this is an actual issue with this camera, apparently a power loop when using one v mount for both camera and monitor. I wonder what happens if you connect the v mount to the monitor and supply power to the camera from the monitor instead of the battery. I’m actually afraid to try it out myself! So far have been powering camera and monitor separately.
Is this an issue with just the 4K version? Or both the 4K and 6K versions?
Thats weird.. im running a v mount which powers my gh5 via dummy battery and my feelworld monitor by using a d tap splitter. Just got this setup but initial tests work.
Im gonna try the setup of v mount to feelworld monitor and powering my gh5 with this monitor just to see if my v mount lasts longer then. First im gonna check power output of the dummy battery which is needed for my gh5 before popping it in ofc.
@@DonnieBasss Thanks for your input. Caleb is talking about the BMPCC 4K. Are you referring to the GH5? - Paul
It works. But Ive managed to fry my hdmi the same way. Its a known fault when powering from v lock. For me it seemed to happen when I swapped in a fresh v lock battery. Probably created a surge and fried the hdmi.
No it's not. I've had a BMPCC4K since 2018 and power it and the monitor (as well as everything else) via a V-lock and haven't had any issues. I've power my second BMPCC4K via an NP-F adapter mounted on the cage and also had no issues powering the monitor at the same time.
I think the major issue is to do with poor quality cables.
Not even sure if you're going to reply but just a question, powering both the cam & monitor on a vmount at the same time doesn't it fry the HDMI port?
Hey i think you can make it even better, if you switch your battery for a NANO TWO from FX-Lion you can power your monitor with a 90° adapter and the usb-C port of the battery, that way no need for the extra multi DTAP cable/plate/plug :) ! i power my monitor like that and it work perfectly
Great video as always Caleb. I like the Portkeys monitor BUT running a wireless follow focus on a hand held rig is overkill and just adds additional cables. A good old fashioned mechanical follow focus is my preferred method.
Can you link the table top tripod you used?
These V-mounts and the cumbersome characteristics are totally unnecessary if u don’t want to bulk up to a cinema sized rig. I use a dummy battery to Sony NPF adapter mounted on a rail tucked next to the lens. 2-4 batteries get me through a full day of shooting and can be swapped out in seconds.
can you elaborate on what i'd need to keep my BMPCC from being a bulky build?
@@r.m.selvey6251 I use 15mm rails on both sides of the lens to mount what I need, such as the NPF battery plate that a dummy adapter is running power to the camera. Then I use the other rail to mount a handle towards the front of the lens which is a huge help with weight distribution. Unless you want to bulk up and flex or add a lot of weight, there's just no need for vmount if you don't mind swapping out a handful of batteries that take up a fraction of the space.
Wish I could post a picture that would answer your question much easier!
For the item links in the description:
The newer PortKeys BM5 and LH5P appear to now support Bluetooth control without an adapter. The links to the BM5 product pages link to the prior, out-of-stock, version. LH5P would certainly be a great thing to investigate. Dimmer and no SDI, but $350 cheaper at time of writing.
The Amazon link for the Intellytech battery isn't sold directly through them at this time. You see "recommended instead" stuff.
Screen protectors for the camera and monitor might do well on the list.
Thanks for this!
Informative, useful, openly honest, wonderful video! Liked and subscribed to your channel from this! THANK YOU!!!
Would love to see some audio receiver mounting options. Possibly mounted to backside of the battery plate?
Wow!! Definitely building this rig asap!
You should use all cage items fro Tilta
Great stuff, I never even thought to make a foldable v-lock system - I will be following this tutorial!
Nice rig bro! The portkeys module makes this thing into a monster 💪🏽 love mine!!
Damn, love this battery solution! Thanks Caleb !
I am the only one who hates rigs? :-D Matter of fact, still using a Canon C100 and looking very hopeful into the upcoming C70. I want a "self contained" camera system, with no hanging cables, external monitors and batteries and so on. They are ok for people making movies on a set, but if you shoot documentaries, reports, if you have to travel, to pack and unpack the camera very quickly... a rig like this can become a nightmare.
I would put something mounted maybe in the upper part of the cage to protect the screen from the battery which when closed could slam and damage the monitor
THX for review!
What do you think about these Gimbals:
- Gudson Moza Air 2S
- ZHIYUN WEEBILL 3
- DJI RS3 (Pro)
What would be currently the best option to about 700-800 € for filming indoor and outdoor dance events, dance couples in daylight ?
Camera and lens can be purchased flexibly - possibly Blackmagic Pocket 4k ?
This is great I know I am late to this. Question what fluid head/tripod combo is this?
Just a chime in... this rig is fantastic. But if someone already has a monitor and doesn't want to invest in this Bluetooth solution, the Blackmagic app is an unbelievable way to access your menus while shooting. Additionally with the app, if you have a script supervisor on set that needs to manage slate data, you can pass the phone or tablet off to them. Just a thought. This would free up $700 for these other amazing assets! Great video tho!
This has been very helpful to me. Thanks.
11:32 The HDMI died because it's dangerous to power the cam and the monitor from the same power source. I was wandering if this would be an issue while watching the video. Other people seemed to have that same problem. You can contain this problem by turning on the camera, and then connecting HDMI. And after you're done: disconnecting the HDMI and then turning off Power. At least that's what I heard. Even better would be a two battery solution.
You always put out amazing contents Caleb!
What's that mini tripod that the setup is on? I didn't see it in the description unless I missed it.
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is that a seperate rail rod support kit? I didn't see a mention of the rail rods. What make and model is the tripod? It's so cute and techy
Is there any updates on what monitor to use and other items ?
What is the small table tripod?
Nice but maybe just buy a URSA Mini G2? Unless you need the smaller size of P4k for gimbals I suppose.
beauty and the beast
What quick release would u recommend putting under the cage? So u can easily take the rails off without having to unscrew anything
Look so good. Makes me want to switch to BM system. Cheers and stay healthy...Ry from Dubai
Colors of broll are awsooomee!!
My HDMI also died on my first BMPCC4K. It seemed to happen when I used a cheap Dtap on Vmount brick to power the cam... Anyway, it appears to be a thing that’s happened to a few peeps. Nice set up btw
yeah, I heard from 4-5 people already having the problem when you use the same battery to power the camera and monitor, that it can freeze. Luckily didn't happen to me yet.
@@L-e-0-n yet? stop using it and buy npf batteries so it wont happen
@@bmefilms6879 yeah, but it makes the rig more top heavy and the bm5 really drains the npf batteries really fast
Imaging being obligated to create this kind of Frankenrig in order to properly use a 'cinema camera'.
Just go FX9/Ursa/varicam at this point 😯
StMarc77 FX9 is 10x the price??
I see your new favourite rig coming up since there is this BMPCC 4K/6K Display Modification Kit by Tilta
What cute little Tripod you using there ?
Doesn't this rig feel really to-heavy when you use it? With the monitor on top of the huge top handle, it seems like it'd be a nightmare to keep that thing stable. Also, how do you shoot handheld if you aren't able to press the camera up against your body? I mean I guess you could do that, but then you risk putting tons of pressure on the screen via the V-mount battery and the cables on the back are going to constantly get crushed. I hate to be "that guy," I just don't see how this rig is usable unless you're only shooting on a tripod.
you are de 2nd youtuber I watch today telling the HDMI died on them, he said it was due to poor D-tap cable quality, but most people in the comments felt it was not, but most likely the v-mount battery was somehow sending some extra power thru the monitor and frying the HDMI output of the camera. Dis you find out what happened to yours?
I was wondering the same.
This thread on Reddit might help shed some light. Personally, I'm just going to power the monitor and camera separately and avoid having to think about it. www.reddit.com/r/bmpcc/comments/lwyevp/powering_bmpcc_and_monitor_off_same_battery/
So you’re gluing that 4 d-tap thing to the plate?
I think if you gonna invest like 5k into this setup for everything thats not a good deal. I think there are a lot of better choices in that pricerange that will not be as complicated as this. Still a good overview to see what good accesories for the BLCC4k could be ;)
An idea, why they do not make battery inside the Rods? maybe create larger section rods and put batteries inside, with some external plugs system. That way batteries are hidden and do not occupy other space around the rig. Also they could be swappable, like other electronics, you get 18650 or 21700, which are inside those bulky battery box.
Great setup Caleb. Pity those long cables make it look untidy. There should be more short cables on the market. We all seem to have that long cable problem. As always you are an inspiration to me with you high quality videos.
I cannot find that "smallrig friction mount" mentioned, the hinged support for the v-mount. Can someone share a link please?
Which tilta cage should I get for my bmk 6kff?
If you don't have the bm5 you can use your phone to change setting via blue tooth
12'23> "nobody shoots like this"....well, except if you need to shoot someone without being in a low angle.
it'salways the problem with those weist/chest handheld setups, its when filming people, especially in close shots, you end up in weird angles.