How the Orlando Magic went from a Finals contender to the NBA's worst team in just 4 years

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  • @isaacwalker1931
    @isaacwalker1931 3 года назад +3558

    People really forget how good Dwight was, can't believe people think he isn't a Hall of Fame player 🤦

    • @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802
      @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 3 года назад +132

      The problem was his ego and personality.

    • @isaacwalker1931
      @isaacwalker1931 3 года назад +235

      @@doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 yeah, and I think the media made him look bad because of his year with Kobe

    • @thebestcentaur
      @thebestcentaur 3 года назад +31

      He would be if he kept up production like he did in his Magic days. Him winning a ring as a role player may not do enough to boost him into the HOF at this point, sad to say

    • @isaacwalker1931
      @isaacwalker1931 3 года назад +182

      @@thebestcentaur but look at those seasons with the Hawks and Hornets, he was still putting up great numbers

    • @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802
      @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 3 года назад +20

      @LMB NBA Podcast ok...

  • @allenmarcial4184
    @allenmarcial4184 3 года назад +1999

    Glad Dwight still won a ring in Orlando😎

    • @pzooka
      @pzooka 3 года назад +167

      I love that Dwight can say that and Shaq can’t do a damn thing about it lol

    • @drip2hard976
      @drip2hard976 3 года назад +29

      @@pzooka I mean he can’t Realy say that he won it in Orlando because that’s where the finals was not because he was with the magic

    • @ethangamino4740
      @ethangamino4740 3 года назад +49

      @@pzooka Shaq really bitched about Dwight winning like wtf did he ever do to you?

    • @PyroPuffs777
      @PyroPuffs777 3 года назад +73

      @@ethangamino4740 shaq has a bit of an ego problem. Watch the Dwight vs Shaq beef history. It explains it all.

    • @xdgaming70
      @xdgaming70 3 года назад +30

      @@ethangamino4740 Shaq and Dwight have a LOOONG beef history

  • @israelisaiahholford8408
    @israelisaiahholford8408 3 года назад +2219

    Just realized.. Dwight won a championship in Orlando but just not on the Magic 😂

    • @callmesoftware
      @callmesoftware 3 года назад +354

      And even more ironic, he played for the team that beat him 11 years ago to get that championship.

    • @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802
      @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 3 года назад +26

      Holy crap your right...

    • @israelisaiahholford8408
      @israelisaiahholford8408 3 года назад +8

      @@callmesoftware lol yup

    • @saracin
      @saracin 3 года назад +16

      Yeah, someone in their front office must be a fan of Beef History and dislike Shaq, since they hired two centers he beefed with.

    • @ZakuIIX
      @ZakuIIX 3 года назад +53

      @@callmesoftware dude, it goes deeper. He left orlando to join the team that beat him. Then left the Lakers because of beef with kobe. And years later he's back in LA winning one and tributing it to kobe. Dude

  • @Matt-uy3bv
    @Matt-uy3bv 3 года назад +483

    I’ll never forget when the media used to clown Dwight for acting like a kid in his early 20’s when he was a kid in his early 20’s

    • @ccwkexs9894
      @ccwkexs9894 3 года назад +14

      I’ll never forget when the media used to clown Dwight for acting like a kid in his early 20’s when he was a kid in his early 20’s

    • @Veaseify
      @Veaseify 3 года назад +22

      People in their early 20's are not 'kids'..

    • @2kmichaeljordan438
      @2kmichaeljordan438 3 года назад +4

      @@Veaseify yeah wtf

    • @GoyFromFinland
      @GoyFromFinland 3 года назад +62

      @@Veaseify 20 year olds are generally on the younger side.

    • @Buttington_Headerson
      @Buttington_Headerson 3 года назад +11

      @@Veaseify yes they are

  • @pac12shorts90
    @pac12shorts90 3 года назад +882

    When Hedo Turkoglu started 2 collapses on the 2 best teams he played...

    • @GaTech379
      @GaTech379 3 года назад +73

      The Hedo curse

    • @4olufade
      @4olufade 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @scentsports8152
      @scentsports8152 3 года назад

      The best players that drafted no.3 in their draft class since 2000.
      Who is #1 in the list?
      Watch: ruclips.net/video/c9FCPF8NBZg/видео.html
      Like/Comment
      SUBSCRIBE! 👍👍

    • @flicker031
      @flicker031 3 года назад +7

      And its both from the lakers lol

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 3 года назад +9

      And Dwight Called It Dwight Said "I Wouldn't Be Surprised If Hedo Somehow Causes Two Collapses"

  • @renogonzalez2255
    @renogonzalez2255 3 года назад +737

    Please do the 90s Bills, from 4 time superbowls in a row to the music city miracle to not reaching to the playoffs in 18yrs. Now that is a collapse

    • @Andre-id7ci
      @Andre-id7ci 3 года назад +82

      Also the Dolphins. Marino left and Dolphins went through 21 QB’s in 20 years and had no playoff wins in that time.

    • @Eomerisdabomb
      @Eomerisdabomb 3 года назад +55

      I mean the four superbowls without a win is a spectacular accomplishment and an embarrassing failure all at the same time.

    • @alejandromarsico5412
      @alejandromarsico5412 3 года назад +7

      They've already done that

    • @ryanahr2267
      @ryanahr2267 3 года назад +3

      What Alejandro said. I don't remember what season of Collapse it was, but it's been done.

    • @renogonzalez2255
      @renogonzalez2255 3 года назад +11

      You're thinking of the 90s cowboys, Bills have yet to be

  • @atlrunner1397
    @atlrunner1397 3 года назад +2769

    Seth’s narration makes life worth living

    • @LegitDalton
      @LegitDalton 3 года назад +146

      Facts he’s such a good narrator. I wish he did them all

    • @carlosazocar3722
      @carlosazocar3722 3 года назад +6

      Agree

    • @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802
      @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 3 года назад +11

      Hes good, but not Pretty Good

    • @84Victorious
      @84Victorious 3 года назад +64

      He is the best on the channel but the others are far from horrible as some of the other comments suggest.

    • @dionzervos3306
      @dionzervos3306 3 года назад +33

      He’s great, it’s his rhythm, the word choice, the others need to pick this up. Seth brings a different energy

  • @heatfan785
    @heatfan785 3 года назад +378

    This was a sad watch, I first got into following the nba when I first starting playing ball in 2008, I picked the magic as my favourite team cause I liked there logo on 2k haha 😂 then was so stoked to see them go to the finals! 🙌 Then it all tumbled away so fast 😭😭

    • @casualfandestroyer2503
      @casualfandestroyer2503 3 года назад +6

      Same bro lol

    • @Dill_doh
      @Dill_doh 3 года назад +1

      Here’s the real question...are u still a fan of the magic ? Or have you bandwagoned to the lakers 😂?

    • @heatfan785
      @heatfan785 3 года назад +9

      @@Dill_doh funnily enough my 2nd favourite team has always been the heat cause D wade was my favourite player back in the day! So it kinda worked itself out :P

    • @scentsports8152
      @scentsports8152 3 года назад

      The best players that drafted no.3 in their draft class since 2000.
      Who is #1 in the list?
      Watch: ruclips.net/video/c9FCPF8NBZg/видео.html
      Like/Comment
      SUBSCRIBE! 👍👍

    • @wolfgooner2321
      @wolfgooner2321 3 года назад +10

      Lol similar to me I picked timberwolves as my fav team when I was a kid because wolf is my fav animal. Still waiting for them to at least make the conference finals again 🤣🤣

  • @StuartTurner13
    @StuartTurner13 3 года назад +651

    New series idea: rebuild. Teams that were once a laughing stock of their league that evolved into a championship team for many years. One team is the Tampa bay lightning, they were once the worst team in the nhl and are now one of the most dominant teams in the entire league for the past nearly decade

    • @beane10
      @beane10 3 года назад +54

      I also like the series idea “Hopeless” where teams like the Eagles and Chiefs who’ve been good and sometimes had the best team in the league and always find a way to fail in the most heartbreaking fashion, until the day they finally breakthrough. Maybe it should be called “Breakthrough” now that I think about it. There are other teams that fit that narrative. As a Chiefs season ticket holder since 1996, at 38 yrs old, I’ve known 35 yrs of gut-wrenching heartbreak and endless hope living side by side. Until 2017 when we drafted Mahomes, and all of that misery, or Missery as we say in Kansas City, MO. Thoughts?

    • @Doommaster677
      @Doommaster677 3 года назад +16

      That was my Cubs until they broke the curse in 2016. Now I can just sit back and watch some excellent baseball knowing I got to witness a championship in my lifetime

    • @beane10
      @beane10 3 года назад +6

      Same here Doom, I got it with the Royals in 2015 and the Chiefs in February. The chiefs journey was much more painful during the bad times and it was a lot further in the past since the last SB we’d won in 1970, Royals had won a WS in ‘85 but 30 yrs was plenty painful also. You had the most magical triumph of any fanbase Doom, and I’m so glad the royals had just won a ring becuz I was able to enjoy the cubbies win with genuine excitement for a deserving fanbase instead of bitterness and jealousy. Plus y’all had Benny Z after he’d been the key to our offense, what a winner he was man. The Red Sox had a pretty sweet triumph as well. Goddamn, I love sports.

    • @PG2248CoasterNews
      @PG2248CoasterNews 3 года назад +9

      Rebuild: 2019 San Francisco 49ers: they were horrible for years and we popped off last season; a true rebuild

    • @Jayzone702
      @Jayzone702 3 года назад +4

      @Secret Base: Hire this man

  • @miles9038
    @miles9038 3 года назад +504

    This feels weirdly like Giannis. Multi-year DPOY, team trying to surround him with shooters, small market, looming free agency...

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 года назад +60

      I thought that too but I do think Giannis is more skilled than Dwight ever was (no disrespect to Dwight) and he has that 'mamba mentality' that Dwight never had

    • @futurekicks3430
      @futurekicks3430 3 года назад +34

      No he doesn’t buddy, didn’t guard butler

    • @veonnoire3768
      @veonnoire3768 3 года назад +40

      @@Chigz10 when giannis athleticism declines like dwight has,that mamba mentality bullshit well not help him...hes still skilled tho

    • @RobertPrestley
      @RobertPrestley 3 года назад +20

      exactly what I was thinking. As a Bucks fan, I'm just going to enjoy Giannis for as long as we can keep him.

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 года назад +47

      @@futurekicks3430 He's a workaholic, a guy who went from being a nothing prospect to a back to back MVP, worked out with Kobe and Kobe was a big fan lol I'm gonna say he has mamba mentality. Not guarding Butler doesn't mean anything it wasn't in the plan and he was injured

  • @elhajjmalikel6266
    @elhajjmalikel6266 3 года назад +27

    As an Orlando native and former Magic supporter, it's no wonder here in Central Florida they got the name "Orlando Tragic". We had Penny & Shaq, T-Mac and Dwight all within the first 20 years of our franchise. Just being an expansion team in '89 we started off on the right foot. If the Magic organization just opened their wallet, look at what our starting lineup could've looked like:
    PG: Jameer Nelson
    SG: Vince Carter
    SF: Hedo Turkoglu/Rashard Lewis
    PF: Rashard Lewis/Hedo Turkoglu
    C; Dwight Howard
    Dec. 18, 2010 is the day it all came crashing down. Stopped supporting them since that day when they made those trades to break up the team.

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 10 месяцев назад +1

      And they could possibly had Tim Duncan and if Hill didn't have Glass Ankles been a dynasty a few times

  • @arisudakidu
    @arisudakidu 3 года назад +94

    I will never forget how terrifying those Magic teams of the late 2000s and early 2010s because of Dwight

    • @fredleeland2464
      @fredleeland2464 3 года назад +13

      Back when every team had a star and the top teams knew how to build around them

  • @shegute
    @shegute 3 года назад +426

    The greatest crime Stan van Gundy ever committed was to start Jameer Nelson, who was coming off an injury, after Rafer skip to my lou Alston had driven them all the way to the finals. Smh!

    • @dckill
      @dckill 3 года назад +16

      Yeah that first game in the finals! We all thought Nelson was done for the season, and perhaps he should have been by coach's decision!

    • @NetworkBruh
      @NetworkBruh 3 года назад +9

      Underrated comment

    • @JokerThaToker
      @JokerThaToker 3 года назад +21

      STRAIGHT FACTS!! I still hold resentment towards Stan for this!

    • @shadowx9398
      @shadowx9398 3 года назад +19

      I will always stay pissed at SVG for that move. SVG is so stubborn to the core. He gets too one track minded sometimes. Alston was playing very well during that run. Then, once Meer gets back, Alston goes to the bench instead of Meer working his way back into the game itself. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @infinitymixtapes9562
      @infinitymixtapes9562 3 года назад +8

      Part of me always wondered how that series could’ve turned out

  • @joelg1706
    @joelg1706 3 года назад +35

    That '09 Magic team was legit, I'm glad Dwight was able to win one after all the problems

  • @Yeti_Films
    @Yeti_Films 3 года назад +34

    It's so damn tough being a magic fan I swear 😭

  • @FingeringThings
    @FingeringThings 3 года назад +40

    Its crazy how they had 2 generational centers consecutively

    • @lostnemesis
      @lostnemesis 3 года назад +3

      I'm pretty sure there was an 8-year window in between but I'm impressed about is how they hopped from great talent to great talent you go from Shaq to Penny and then you get Tracy and you have Grant Hill but he never played for us and then you go to Dwight

    • @Izrezar
      @Izrezar 3 года назад +1

      3, They have Mo Bamba now

    • @Namtihhh
      @Namtihhh 3 года назад +1

      @@Izrezar lol

    • @fszron
      @fszron Год назад +2

      But both Shaq and Dwight failed to win in Orlando even after reaching the Finals in '95 and '09 respectively.
      They both won NBA rings as Lakers' players.

  • @beanflicker9919
    @beanflicker9919 2 года назад +7

    Man when I was in middle school when the magic were going to the finals , Dwight was the biggest thing to talk about in Orlando. He was so so so famous in the city. I went to the Florida mall for shoes one day , and the mall was completely filled with people. I was confused why and the whole mall was in line to just take pictures with Dwight Howard in front of a champs. I’m talking the entire mall was just a line to see Dwight. Dude was like Kobe Bryant levels of famous in Orlando. Those were good times

  • @ponypower8
    @ponypower8 2 года назад +11

    Based on the Magic players recollection (JJ discussed this himself in his own podcast), the main reason the Magic lost to Boston in the ECF was the coaching blunder of SVG *even before the series started.* Even though the Magic was solid heading to the ECF, SVG suddenly decided to make major adjustments for the Celtics series *even before the series started.* Remember what Shaq said about SVG? He was a good strategist BUT he had a tendency to get nervous, overthink, and make bad decisions. That "dark side" of SVG showed up during the Magic-Celtics ECF.

  • @ultrustic
    @ultrustic 3 года назад +11

    Seth should be put in charge exclusive for NBA rewind, NBA Collapse, and any Beef in the NBA. Love his pace and his soothing voice in the narration

  • @anthonystanek1212
    @anthonystanek1212 3 года назад +129

    I love Orlando Magic. Saying that, Guys Like Shaquille O neal, Horace Grant and Dwight howard all ended up with an NBA ring at the LA Lakers after leaving Orlando.

    • @PedroPinto-tf9bg
      @PedroPinto-tf9bg 3 года назад +18

      Well Horace already had rings with the bulls but I get what you saying

    • @beezy22
      @beezy22 3 года назад +23

      Also Frank Vogel got a ring with the Lakers after being fired from the Magic...

    • @Iranianjew4life
      @Iranianjew4life 3 года назад +17

      Its pretty interesting. Lakers always taking Orlando's sloppy seconds and they end up winning there loll

    • @beezy22
      @beezy22 3 года назад +5

      @@Iranianjew4life yes indeed...not to throw shade at the Magic they can’t catch a break when it comes to keeping and developing players....

    • @manofgray5239
      @manofgray5239 3 года назад +15

      Orlando may have DisneyWorld, but LA is where the magic really is

  • @gotkai5145
    @gotkai5145 3 года назад +127

    I'm just glad Dwight finally got a ring, like many other legends that never got it, he deserved it.

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 2 года назад +4

      - Personally, I never liked Dwight's game. He has two blocks for feet in the post. All the athleticism in the world but offensively inept. HOWEVER, he won 3 DPOY. Carried a team to the Finals. Put up some numbers. He should be in the NBA Top 75 over "Anthony-street-clothes-Davis."

    • @xdawn
      @xdawn 2 года назад

      @@jlui21 respect

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 2 года назад

      Nah. He shouldn't have done it with LA (city he lost Finals to)... with enemies like Rondo & Lebron.

    • @DragonaAuntstar
      @DragonaAuntstar 2 года назад +1

      @@vulcanraven9701 enemies? Bro it’s just basketball

    • @jt8594
      @jt8594 2 года назад

      @@vulcanraven9701 a ring is a ring

  • @usahenry
    @usahenry 2 года назад +9

    Watching their newest video of the Shaq and Penny magic collapse and then queueing this up afterward is hilarious. Genuinely picks up right where the Shaq/Penny video left off. Just 20 years of constant failure

    • @tykemorris
      @tykemorris Год назад +3

      More like 30 years but there are teams who have never made it to the finals. There are 29 failures every year and the same teams tend to dominate a lot, like the Warriors, the Celtics, the Lakers, the Spurs and the 90's Bulls. Being a Magic fan is a roller coaster, not constant. I wouldn't trade those 30 years for half the league.

  • @juddarcano151
    @juddarcano151 3 года назад +107

    I felt like Rafer Alston was a better starting point guard during the finals, Jameer Nelson ruined the rotation.

    • @JWex-jy7sk
      @JWex-jy7sk 3 года назад +7

      Yeah but remember Alston in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs averaged 12.7 PPG/4.4 APG
      Jameer was an All Star that season averaging 16.2 PPG/5.7 APG
      The Magic were desperate to get him back and weren’t gonna have their All Star PG come off the bench.

    • @RFcity712
      @RFcity712 3 года назад +17

      @@JWex-jy7sk yeah but the roster had more chemistry with Rafer. Van Gundy ruined the momentum by bringing in Jameer. And honestly, while I like Jameer, it seemed like the moment was too big for him because he was pretty erratic.

    • @purplegill10
      @purplegill10 3 года назад +5

      Skip 2 My Lou*

    • @kristianpomida8259
      @kristianpomida8259 3 года назад +5

      Yes. Finally someone said it

    • @scentsports8152
      @scentsports8152 3 года назад

      The best players that drafted no.3 in their draft class since 2000.
      Who is #1 in the list?
      Watch: ruclips.net/video/c9FCPF8NBZg/видео.html
      Like/Comment
      SUBSCRIBE! 👍👍

  • @jman2050
    @jman2050 3 года назад +74

    It’s been 11 years, why does seeing Lee’s missed layup still make me throw a pillow across the room?

    • @KirbyYoung
      @KirbyYoung 3 года назад +4

      That scene gave me bad memories. Geez lee

    • @shadowx9398
      @shadowx9398 3 года назад +4

      Missing that shot was bad for CLee. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @johnkirk.
      @johnkirk. 3 года назад +7

      the inbound pass was too strong

    • @TheHuskyK9
      @TheHuskyK9 3 года назад +10

      Leave that poor pillow alone, it didn’t do anything 😂😂

    • @ThaGhettoBlaster
      @ThaGhettoBlaster 2 года назад

      Wah wah wah 😂

  • @heathRocco
    @heathRocco 3 года назад +4

    I remember commenting on a Secret Base video asking them to make a rise & fall video of the Orlando Magic a few months ago & finally now im watching it 💙👌

  • @phipsdeus2
    @phipsdeus2 2 года назад +65

    Who’s here after watching the collapse from the Shaq and Penny years!?!?

  • @koreypaul6698
    @koreypaul6698 3 года назад +196

    Imagine if Dwight won a championship with the Magic....
    Shaq still would say he didn't deserve it 😑

    • @JDubs1464
      @JDubs1464 3 года назад +14

      “The Magic have never had a better center on their roster than me.”

    • @cl8wnm5n
      @cl8wnm5n 3 года назад +2

      @@JDubs1464 Shaq just hates Dwight

    • @huffinairduster
      @huffinairduster 3 года назад +2

      @@JDubs1464 is that a shaq quote or a dwight quote literally cant tell hahaha

    • @cl8wnm5n
      @cl8wnm5n 3 года назад +4

      @Sean Minton I get all that but Dwight never gave up. He definitely did not live up to Shaq’s prime which was far better than Dwight but Shaq needs to give credit when due

    • @cl8wnm5n
      @cl8wnm5n 3 года назад +1

      @Sean Minton I respect that. He’s a borderline HOF and I think winning a chip as a key role player helps his case but doesn’t quite solidify it

  • @MKISports
    @MKISports 3 года назад +10

    This Magic team is a precursor to the teams today. They got a dominating center and a lineup full of shooters.
    Then they blew it up all of a sudden.

  • @holdenricker2285
    @holdenricker2285 3 года назад +2

    it’s crazy, been a magic fan since I was a little kid. Remember when they made the finals in 09 I was a kid crazy how bad they are.

  • @moisessobrepena75
    @moisessobrepena75 3 года назад +7

    I remember those tough times!Dwight and Jameer sitting dejected after thr Finals loss. But this year everything is sweep away for Dwight!So happy for him!

  • @oliverdennis3115
    @oliverdennis3115 3 года назад +3

    My favourite clip of Dwight is when he says he’s open to Steve Nash, like it’s Steve Nash, he decides when you’re open.

  • @rayneozier
    @rayneozier 2 года назад +5

    0:46 “f!ck it. We ball!”- Coach Stan Van Gundy

  • @allieday2308
    @allieday2308 3 года назад +10

    “52 wins is nothing to sneeze at, and you shouldn’t sneeze at things” 😂😂 I’m weak Seth 😂

  • @Sebastin-nl2lh
    @Sebastin-nl2lh 3 года назад +35

    Bruh poor Dwight 😂
    Lack of management and roster improvement drew him out of the Magic

    • @jalencampbell8807
      @jalencampbell8807 3 года назад +6

      Hey at least he got one in LA.

    • @devanwelch4049
      @devanwelch4049 3 года назад +5

      @Sean Minton Idk he was pretty key rotation player during the early playoffs and the regular season, who knows if AD would have stayed healthy if he had to play a whole season at center or splitting minutes with Javale.

  • @a.e.3367
    @a.e.3367 3 года назад +3

    Dwight's redemption arc to champion is one of the most fascinating storylines in the NBA. And the Magic are one of the most frustrating orgs ever. Amassed so much greatness and realized such little potential. Great deep dive video!

  • @goleafsgo332000
    @goleafsgo332000 3 года назад +26

    This shows that organizations are built from the top down. Need great management then great Coaching followed by a great team.

    • @bimanatawilaga7509
      @bimanatawilaga7509 3 года назад

      So Jerry Krause aint all that wrong, aint he 🤣

    • @jfayiii
      @jfayiii 2 года назад

      1000% correct. Magic need to be sold.

  • @nope270
    @nope270 3 года назад +196

    I’m so happy Dwight got a ring

    • @KnifeNinjaEDC
      @KnifeNinjaEDC 3 года назад +10

      He did a lot of growing up since his magic days.

    • @scentsports8152
      @scentsports8152 3 года назад

      The best players that drafted no.3 in their draft class since 2000.
      Who is #1 in the list?
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    • @timothyasdent9512
      @timothyasdent9512 3 года назад +1

      This feels weirdly like Giannis. Multi-year DPOY, team trying to surround him with shooters, small market, looming free agency...

    • @jacobcardinal8041
      @jacobcardinal8041 3 года назад +1

      @@timothyasdent9512 Giannis has only won 1 dpoy. Just sayin

  • @gedrictudio
    @gedrictudio 3 года назад +19

    We all knew the awkward interview was going to pop up and waited for it.

  • @TJ-ir6xt
    @TJ-ir6xt 3 года назад +11

    Alternate title: How the Orlando Magic went from a Dwinner to a Dwightmare to Dwightless.

  • @jonasanderss8n
    @jonasanderss8n 3 года назад +3

    all these Collapse series videos are little masterpieces. Thanks! Idea for the next one: Sonics between 96 finals and 08 Oklahoma switch.

  • @RolfWrenWalsh
    @RolfWrenWalsh 2 года назад +3

    As a Magic fan, I like to think things worked out long term with the Dwight trade with getting Fournier and Vuc.
    Damn I miss those two and Aaron Gordon SO MUCH!! But our new young core going into 2023 is so fun and exciting. Fultz. Franz. Cole. Suggs. Banchero. Bamba. T-Ross (for now). Carter.
    They were so much fun to watch last season, it even made losing fun (won only 22 games).
    Got my League Pass bought and paid for, and I am SO READY for this season.
    GO MAGIC!!!

  • @venod3134
    @venod3134 3 года назад +2

    Narration is an art. Great job. As usual ✊🏾

  • @heemanijaz6100
    @heemanijaz6100 3 года назад +48

    Y’all should do a rewinder on game 7 of the 76ers vs raptors 2019

    • @xdgaming70
      @xdgaming70 3 года назад +16

      Not yet. Let it age another year.

    • @heemanijaz6100
      @heemanijaz6100 3 года назад +2

      @@xdgaming70 good idea

  • @motherboard06
    @motherboard06 3 года назад +60

    Pls do a rewind on the Manny Pacquiao’s knockout punch on Ricky Hatton‼️, Day 1

    • @cidiose
      @cidiose 3 года назад +1

      I'd rather see when marquez knocked him out.

  • @withalittlehelpfrom3
    @withalittlehelpfrom3 7 месяцев назад +2

    The Magic have their next All-Star!!
    So proud of Paolo Banchero and the work he's doing for that franchise. I hope he stays long term and takes them the distance.

  • @sebastianrosa1849
    @sebastianrosa1849 3 года назад +5

    As an Orlando Magic fan, I can use five words to describe this video
    Pain. Tears. Pain. Endless pain

    • @wazzup233
      @wazzup233 3 года назад +1

      Or Orlando Magic is like Spain w/o the S. 🤪

    • @shadowx9398
      @shadowx9398 3 года назад

      Here’s a simple one: The Pain...It Continues.😞

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 4 месяца назад

      God or whoever gave you a third chance. You have a WILD young core. Yes Franz and Jalen choked hard last week but don't let last game syndrome take over. The Banchero/Wagner/Suggs core probably the best development core in the bloody league

  • @robertlinn4481
    @robertlinn4481 3 года назад +2

    You gotta do more of these collapse videos!!! These, untitled, and beef history are you're best series please do more of them

  • @keimahnee
    @keimahnee 3 года назад +5

    I'm still a Magic fan always, no matter what, we have a bright future in the next couple years

  • @dstapleton2652
    @dstapleton2652 3 года назад +2

    I love this show , gives me and all sports fans the true back story of teams . Keep it up 💯

  • @zeke1094
    @zeke1094 3 года назад +3

    The first collapse that I lived directly through, and the one that hurts the most. Watching this team live hurt. I wish it could have gone another way

  • @hojho23
    @hojho23 3 года назад +2

    There are interviews on All the Smoke podcast featuring Vince Carter and featuring JJ Redick, which talked about Stan van Gundy's change of strategies in the 2010 Eastern Conference Finals against the Celtics as the head-scratcher. They went away from what worked and it was a shame that team didn't advance to the Finals.

  • @whatsshakinbaconnothinjust2986
    @whatsshakinbaconnothinjust2986 3 года назад +12

    I'm happy for D12 winning a title and he is a qualified HOF. Never give up on your dreams!

  • @starman1004
    @starman1004 2 года назад +1

    As a Lakers fan I'm still shocked they were able to win game 4 in 2009. Dwight only needed to make 1 free throw. That game pretty much ended the series at that point.

  • @showtimesportsmedia6906
    @showtimesportsmedia6906 3 года назад +2

    Dwight getting his first ring with the same franchise he was once despised on in the place he was once so beloved, has to be the perfect character arc ever.

  • @landongarcia2179
    @landongarcia2179 3 года назад +11

    Hey Seth, can you guys do videos on how miller and Ewing were ringless? Or the collapse of the 1987 Celtics or the 1982 76ers?

  • @isaacbrauerdesigns8693
    @isaacbrauerdesigns8693 3 года назад +4

    Please make one eventually for the 1990's Indians teams. Those teams were loaded and were very consistent, but overall never won the world series with Jim Thome, Manny Ramirez, Omar Vizquel and Kenny Lofton. Those 4 names alone should be great for any team!

  • @3dsaulgoodman43
    @3dsaulgoodman43 3 года назад +4

    Can you guys make a Collapse video for soccer? Like how AC Milan went from being Europe's best, to just another team.

  • @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802
    @doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 3 года назад +19

    Looks like the Magic ran out for the Magic.

  • @Doommaster677
    @Doommaster677 3 года назад +1

    Honestly I'm not even much of a basketball fan (as opposed to baseball, American football, or hockey) but all these excellent videos are making me into more of one by the day

  • @genxtasy9914
    @genxtasy9914 3 года назад +1

    Been binging on these.

  • @BrandonGannicott
    @BrandonGannicott 3 года назад +1

    I'll happily listen to anyone from Secret Base talk about pretty much anything. Thank y'all for the work you do

  • @SaleenFocusS121
    @SaleenFocusS121 3 года назад

    Life long magic fan since the teams inception. This was painful to relive thanks for posting 😢

  • @michaelbarnes2617
    @michaelbarnes2617 3 года назад +3

    Howard's offensive game really improved in his prime o the point where he was taking and making bank shots from just outside the paint

  • @cmd31220
    @cmd31220 3 года назад +1

    I remember watching the 09 finals run and losing my mind. Greatest basketball moment of my life

  • @flyingbeagleee25
    @flyingbeagleee25 3 года назад +13

    Howard only needed his "Penny Hardaway" and unfortunately Vince Carter wasn't that.

  • @jackclarke4468
    @jackclarke4468 3 года назад

    You guys should definitely do a Steve Nash Suns collapse, the Suns are still bad and recovering ever since Nash and Stoudemire left the team. They had a good run in 2014, winning 48 games and still missing the playoffs, but they haven't scratched the surface of contending since 2010. I'm sure you guys have stuff planned out much in advance, I love these videos they're extremely well done. Just an idea!

  • @TheMajinV
    @TheMajinV 3 года назад +1

    Been dying to see another NHL focus for Collapse. Maybe the Oilers post-dynasty or the Lemieux-era Penguins?

  • @captainamerica_ny9642
    @captainamerica_ny9642 3 года назад +2

    It’s so crazy now that Dwight has a ring with the Lakers

  • @kevanpatel5538
    @kevanpatel5538 2 года назад +4

    The magic had the potential of two different dynasties with Shaq and Penny and Dwight and company. All were squandered without a championship. Also who could forget that Tim Duncan almost joined the Magic that had Grant Hill and T-Mac but was ruined by Doc Rivers

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 3 года назад +1

    Like the demise of most small markets from 1984-2014 their downfall can be summed up in 2 words.
    David Stern.

  • @clutchcity25
    @clutchcity25 2 года назад +2

    The new one brought me back here and MAN, this franchise has been through a LOT of disappointment.

    • @derpmcgerp8062
      @derpmcgerp8062 2 года назад

      Impressive considering how relatively new the franchise is

  • @deathboy126
    @deathboy126 3 года назад +5

    Some future collapse episode ideas:
    Denver Broncos after Super Bowl 50
    Arizona Cardinals after Super Bowl 43
    San Antonio Spurs after 2014
    Sacksonville Jaguars after 2017
    Lob City Clippers
    Cleveland Cavaliers after 2016
    Buffalo Bills after after 4 straight Super Bowls
    New England Patriots after Super Bowl 53
    Indianapolis Colts after 2014
    Toronto Raptors after 2019

    • @DarkDesperado25
      @DarkDesperado25 3 года назад +1

      Gotta give some time, a couple of even awful years isn't enough, need a good 3-4 at a bare minimum to be worth a video

    • @dakotaheino5188
      @dakotaheino5188 3 года назад

      Raps ain’t collapse

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 3 года назад

      I'd be interested in the Bills

    • @placyd
      @placyd 3 года назад

      Spurs never collapsed. They're still strong up to this year

  • @marcusmelidor6952
    @marcusmelidor6952 3 года назад +2

    I’m surprised there hasn’t been a collapse with the 95 magic with penny and shaq. Need that to drop ASAP

  • @Thomas-gy7sv
    @Thomas-gy7sv 3 года назад +3

    Crazy how you made this documentary about this specific Orlando Magics roster. I used this team when I played online in 2k and absolutely shredded everyone with 3 pointers. I realized quickly that this team, during that time, was hands down the best outside perimeter shooting team in the league with guys like Lewis, Nelson, Reddick, Pietrus, and even Turkoglu.
    It's funny to watch this because I remember everyone picking all the good teams at the time and there I was, picking the Orlando Magics lmfao.
    And I'm a Toronto Raptors boy from Toronto

    • @fortuna8517
      @fortuna8517 3 года назад +1

      This team ain’t in 2k though???

    • @Thomas-gy7sv
      @Thomas-gy7sv 3 года назад

      @@fortuna8517 I'm talking about back in 2009 or something when this was the team for Orlando. That's when I played them. It was a time when 3 pointers weren't really as big as it is now because of Steph Curry
      This was a long time ago lol

    • @fortuna8517
      @fortuna8517 3 года назад

      @@Thomas-gy7sv Ahh I see
      They really should add 09 magic to the classic teams in 2k though

  • @gabejuice
    @gabejuice 3 года назад

    Thanks for this vid, I was looking forward to an Dwight era of magic video.

  • @dynomar11
    @dynomar11 3 года назад +4

    "Vince Carter was past his prime"
    That was 10 years ago.

  • @Based_Proletariat
    @Based_Proletariat 3 года назад

    Watching this bought back happy
    and sad memories about the Magic.

  • @thickyjuice
    @thickyjuice 3 года назад +1

    Very good timing on this one, considering Dwight just won his first championship and Van Gundy is now I’m going to coach the Pelicans

  • @hhtptai
    @hhtptai 3 года назад +1

    You guys should bring back The Worst and talk about the 2011-12 Charlotte Bobcats, who had the worst win-loss record in NBA history.

  • @zachspath494
    @zachspath494 Год назад +4

    The magic were the first team I liked when I started watching in 2000 after a trip to Disney. I'll never forget being so upset when Grant Hill couldn't play. After tmac left and we got Dwight I was excited again when we lost those finals I was in 8th grade and bout cried cuz I knew our history and knew that was our only shot with Dwight being here. Damn time flew by lol

  • @HEENDOOO
    @HEENDOOO 3 года назад

    This channel gives me life

  • @AllanTheKing-qc6dy
    @AllanTheKing-qc6dy 3 года назад +3

    Do a collapse video about the Baltimore Orioles please.

  • @marcrichardson517
    @marcrichardson517 3 года назад +1

    DAYUM that ‘09 team was a SQUAD!!!

  • @xxyoumam4492
    @xxyoumam4492 3 года назад +1

    I’ve got a video idea: the rise of teams videos about teams that Rose to championships.

  • @muhammad_berkowitz989
    @muhammad_berkowitz989 3 года назад

    I love your content!! I claim not to be into sports anymore because it’s to heart breaking. But when you post I watch lol! Keep up the great content!

  • @loudpackangel1014
    @loudpackangel1014 3 года назад +32

    Khabib just retired Connor said he’s going to “carry on” it’s a perfect time to make a khabib vs Connor McGregor beef history

    • @levarhicks1000
      @levarhicks1000 3 года назад +1

      I'm thinking he's probably tired and wanted to leave the sport on top. Props to khabib 👏

    • @loudpackangel1014
      @loudpackangel1014 3 года назад +1

      @@levarhicks1000 khabib the goat

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 года назад +1

      They barely have actual beef though? They have beef like fighters have beef, they wanted to fight each other so they talked about each other a lot and then they fought, I don't know what kinda video that would be, the only interesting thing that happened outside of fight promo was the coach incident.

    • @loudpackangel1014
      @loudpackangel1014 3 года назад

      @@Chigz10 you watch MMA?😭Connor broke a bus window looking for khabib and that’s not even it they have real beef

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 года назад

      @@loudpackangel1014 I mentioned that, that's the only thing that happened between them that wasn't promo for a fight.

  • @selong776
    @selong776 3 года назад +2

    You should do a rise series the opposite of collapse

  • @wzac1234
    @wzac1234 3 года назад +2

    You guys should make a series thats the opposite of collapse that shows a teams rise to a title. Call it espalloc

  • @christraj8208
    @christraj8208 2 года назад +4

    2022 here and we still suck! Lol

  • @Safemooner0416
    @Safemooner0416 3 года назад +2

    Whenever I watched your videos i am inspired to make one!

  • @BokuGlack
    @BokuGlack 3 года назад +3

    Imagine if Shaq didn’t leave.Possibly 3 championships right there

    • @isaacwalker1931
      @isaacwalker1931 3 года назад

      Yeah, but he was more focused on money, but at the same time Magic should have prioritized him better than they did.

    • @mr.throwback4875
      @mr.throwback4875 3 года назад

      What if Kobe (RIP) Joined Shaq in Orlando? We can only imagine

  • @glenncross4987
    @glenncross4987 3 года назад

    Looking forward to the 2020 World series game 4 rewind video whenever it comes

  • @br__uh
    @br__uh 3 года назад

    Seth blessed my ears with the intro
    Love your guys work

  • @joshhale9355
    @joshhale9355 3 года назад +1

    Can you do another “Collapse” video for the NHL? Maybe on Toronto, Colorado, or (especially) Edmonton?

  • @AtlasAdvice254
    @AtlasAdvice254 2 года назад +1

    Man i will always root for my home state teams, but the magic have done such a good job at making one not want to. They've had some of the greatest collection of talent walk through their doors from Shaq, to a prime T mac, to Dwight, etc but time and time again without fail they fumble

  • @chittsy99
    @chittsy99 3 года назад +3

    Liverpools title collapse in 2013/4 or the Newcastle title collapse of the 90s

  • @dansmith4373
    @dansmith4373 3 года назад

    Guys, the next collapse you needs to do the Brett Favre-led Vikings!
    Favre leading the way with his best passing season of his career, Adrian Peterson doing his usual demolition of run defenses, Wideouts Sidney Rice & Percy Harvin, brick wall O-line led by pro-bowlers Bryant McKinnie and Steve Hutchinson, and the nightmare for every opposing QB, pass rusher Jared Allen! This was a solid team that had such a great chance to lead Minnesota to their first championship, but that infamous Brett Favre pick in the 2010 NFC Championship just caused such a steep downfall that saw them fall to 3-13 just 2 seasons later! This would be an awesome Collapse story! Please do it next!

  • @litodat233
    @litodat233 3 года назад +1

    I’m glad he was able to get a ring while still being able to contribute he helped the lakers team a lot

  • @robinrondo
    @robinrondo 3 года назад

    Yess amazing, please keep these up, maybe Lob City Clippers next?

  • @kingaustin6985
    @kingaustin6985 3 года назад +1

    This is an amazing video like all of the videos created on this channel. Howard is clearly a hall of fame basketball player and if people believe otherwise then they do not know much about basketball