I’ve been a loyal Toyota guy but ever since they redesigned them and raised the the msrp I’ve really been eyeing up that trail boss. Great looking truck. Toyota was so reliable it’s a shame what they’ve done , first review i watch this year guy blows up a transfer case.
Yep toyota that we know and love is a thing of the past. And on the flip side gm, a company that I hated for 20 years, its the rising start of design, quality, capability, customer service and reasonable cost.
Same thing here. I agree.. are you referring to TLF channel where they were climbing over a rock on the snow and they broke it on the blue Tacoma? I watched it. On that note it is ridiculous how much the Tacomas cost now. I had two third gen Tacos and they were good(TRD OFF Road both) but I test drove a Trail boss yesterday and a ZR2 and Chevrolet is spot on with performance/price.
I ordered a ZR2 can’t wait for it!!! Love your content. I was waiting for the trd pro to come out to make my final decision and was disappointed with it. Thanks for the warranty advice I did not know about purchasing it through the manufacturer. Thank you and keep up the great content!
I originally wanted the Colorado ZR2 desert boss. But refused to pay 61 grand for it. Before i would pay 61 grand I would go look for a good low mileage used 2021 or 2022 Colorado ZR2 bison model truck.
@@Jason-SamkoYou live once,,,,your 50 years old,,I’m 55 if you can afford it ,,BUY IT,,,,,,you may not be around a few years from now,,including me and everyone reading this,,,,
I liove my new 2023 Colorado trail boss. The MSRP on my truck was $44,700.00 which is around 7 to 8 grand less msrp over the Colorado ZR2. You just get 1" less tall factory lift and no front locking differential with the trail boss. Also do not get the fancy suspension system. Living in northeast Tennessee I do not go driving on rugged terrain like folks do living out west in the more rugged mountains in colorado, Wyoming, utah,New Mexico, Nevada, arizona,California and Texas. So I could not justify spending that extra 7 to 8 grand to buy the ZR2.
CHAMPION chevy dealer in Johnson city, TN had bigger size 275/65R18 mud terrain Goodyear Territory tires and skid plates installed on my new 2023 Colorado trail boss truck.
Sounds like you got some great extra options on your trail boss for that msrp. Sure is an amazing truck! I just drove and reviewd a trail boss for 39600 msrp. was an amazing truck but probably a lot less options than yours has. it didnt even have a trailer hitch. That video will be uploaded soon on here.
I watch alot of truck stuff and have an off road truck my self. I wish people did not speak when they don't know what they are talking about. The G80 is a true locker made by Eaton, all Auto Lockers work that way it's one of the best most dependable lockers on the market does this guy realize all the issues and problems you can have with a electric locker ??
Then as an off roader or a guy that knows I would expect you to know the limitations and difficulties that co.e with a locker that has to spin 100 rpm to engage! I said in the video it's a great locker and the most reliable (yoy would of heard that if you watched the full video). But it is not the best locker design. As an offroader all my life, a mechanic for a decade and an engineer for the automotive companies for 15 I kinda do have a clue.
@@Jason-Samko well for the one fault you find with the auto locker their is a lot more with electric lockers. The Auto locker is a pure mechanical locker their is no wire or electric solenoid to go wrong. Oh by the way wires corrode.
@bradsmith130 can not argue with you there. And never did. Like I said in the video the g80 is the most durable fail proof locker made. That's why gm has used it for so many years. But performance wide its not even close to a electronic locker. Bit it's much, much better than no locker
I've tried to select the 2wd for the trail boss but that's not an option. Unfortunately it only comes in 4wd. I had a 2021 z71 that was a 2wd and I was hoping to find it an option on the trail boss.
Yeah I think all manufacturers are cutting out the options that options that were not in high demand. A 2wd trailboss, although would be a great looking truck, would not be high demand. It's a bummer they don't offer that option.
@n0xxm3rcyxx yes. I put very expensive headlight revolution leds in my ram and they failed before a year. I put 39 dollar leds in my jeep that lasted u til I sold it 3 years later and I have 50 dollar leds in my tacoma and love them. Amazon sells a bunch of led lights for all makes and models and they work very well.
Gord Monteath agree 100%. It's a tough call base on needs out of the truck and with the cost difference there it's not an easy choice. The stuff in the zr2 is pretty important to me but the price makes me wanna say "screw it, if I get stuck I know how to self recover so save the money". There is no right or wrong truck. Both are excellent.
I bought a new 2023 Colorado Trail Boss,,,,,he was trying to sell me a extended warranty for 5k,,, I laughed and told him NO! I told him it would take me 15 years to put 30k miles on it,, I bought it to pull my Bullet bass boat and just to have a little off road fun,,he also tried to get me to finance my bed liner, all weather floor mat and my 490 torque flash,,,,I said NO,,,I payed cash for all that! I put 30k down and my goal is to pay it off by end of year,,,I’m also getting that lighted front grill bow tie,,,it’s pricey!
This was the best year for the midsize GM line in the company’s history. I wish they would figure out how to cram the “old” 5.3l in one. My Gladiator would disappear quickly. I am curious about the torque numbers. I know different tunes peak at different rpm’s, but the extra torque with an extra 1000 rpm sounds like marketing speak to make the more expensive truck seem better. When there may be no real difference.
Agree it's the best truck gm ever made. I have not been a fan of anything gm has put out in over 20 years. But this 23 Colorado is fantastic and really speaks my language
@@Jason-SamkoTheir is a significant difference,, they raced a 392 torque Colorado against the H.O. 430 Torque Canyon and the Canyon beat the Colorado,,,I got mine flashed to the 430torque for around 500 dollars and you can tell,,I seen a video of a Colorado H.O. In four wheel drive do 0 to 60 in 6 seconds,,,My C5 Corvette does it in 4.5 seconds ,,,that is extremely quick for a not so light midsize pickup truck,,,I haven’t checked yet but I’m also gonna get a cold air intake whenever they are available,,I put a cold air intake on my Silverado when I bought it new and could really tell the extra HP big time! my point is ,it’s not just talk these trucks have torque power!
@@Jason-Samko I just went to the page to build and the start was 10k difference. You might have mistaken for the z71. Trail boss starting build is 38,495 and zr2 starts at 48,295. That’s with just base with no additional options. You might have to recheck.
@phivunguyen83 as I said in the video somethings are mandatory in my opinion like a trailer hitch etc. Those things are options on the trailboss but mandatory in my opinion. When you add those few things like a hitch, a brake controller, cruise control etc. It's not 10k or even close. Again I show it all in the video
Price might not be worth it yet. Will have to see. Can put 35s on a zr2 for a whole let less. No difference in gearing between the zr2 and bison. So not sure how it will really handle 35s with 3.42 years. Had 35s on a jeep with 3.73 gears and it was about worthless off road. Have to see how the 35s do in the bison. I think a zr2 with 34x11.50s would do much better off road crawling. But excited to see the reviews and the price of the bison when it hits
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I’ve been a loyal Toyota guy but ever since they redesigned them and raised the the msrp I’ve really been eyeing up that trail boss. Great looking truck. Toyota was so reliable it’s a shame what they’ve done , first review i watch this year guy blows up a transfer case.
Yep toyota that we know and love is a thing of the past. And on the flip side gm, a company that I hated for 20 years, its the rising start of design, quality, capability, customer service and reasonable cost.
Same thing here. I agree.. are you referring to TLF channel where they were climbing over a rock on the snow and they broke it on the blue Tacoma? I watched it. On that note it is ridiculous how much the Tacomas cost now. I had two third gen Tacos and they were good(TRD OFF Road both) but I test drove a Trail boss yesterday and a ZR2 and Chevrolet is spot on with performance/price.
I put a deposit on a zr2 last week . I’m excited
@@east_coast_stickbow outstanding! Congratulations on such a great truck
I ordered a ZR2 can’t wait for it!!! Love your content. I was waiting for the trd pro to come out to make my final decision and was disappointed with it. Thanks for the warranty advice I did not know about purchasing it through the manufacturer. Thank you and keep up the great content!
Congrats on an amazing truck. Please keep me updated when you get it. Gonna be such an amazing truck!
What kind of production update do you have? I only ordered one last week, but trying to get timelines. Thanks
I originally wanted the Colorado ZR2 desert boss. But refused to pay 61 grand for it.
Before i would pay 61 grand I would go look for a good low mileage used 2021 or 2022 Colorado ZR2 bison model truck.
I really wish the mph was a bit higher. But I do like the zr2 and thinking of getting it for me.
Agree on the mpg. But it's all a trade off. A lift, bigger more aggressive tires, etc all hit the mpg. But I sure do love the zr2 and want one bad.
@@Jason-SamkoYou live once,,,,your 50 years old,,I’m 55 if you can afford it ,,BUY IT,,,,,,you may not be around a few years from now,,including me and everyone reading this,,,,
I liove my new 2023 Colorado trail boss. The MSRP on my truck was $44,700.00 which is around 7 to 8 grand less msrp over the Colorado ZR2. You just get 1" less tall factory lift and no front locking differential with the trail boss. Also do not get the fancy suspension system. Living in northeast Tennessee I do not go driving on rugged terrain like folks do living out west in the more rugged mountains in colorado, Wyoming, utah,New Mexico, Nevada, arizona,California and Texas. So I could not justify spending that extra 7 to 8 grand to buy the ZR2.
CHAMPION chevy dealer in Johnson city, TN had bigger size 275/65R18 mud terrain Goodyear Territory tires and skid plates installed on my new 2023 Colorado trail boss truck.
Sounds like you got some great extra options on your trail boss for that msrp. Sure is an amazing truck! I just drove and reviewd a trail boss for 39600 msrp. was an amazing truck but probably a lot less options than yours has. it didnt even have a trailer hitch. That video will be uploaded soon on here.
I watch alot of truck stuff and have an off road truck my self. I wish people did not speak when they don't know what they are talking about. The G80 is a true locker made by Eaton, all Auto Lockers work that way it's one of the best most dependable lockers on the market does this guy realize all the issues and problems you can have with a electric locker ??
Then as an off roader or a guy that knows I would expect you to know the limitations and difficulties that co.e with a locker that has to spin 100 rpm to engage! I said in the video it's a great locker and the most reliable (yoy would of heard that if you watched the full video). But it is not the best locker design. As an offroader all my life, a mechanic for a decade and an engineer for the automotive companies for 15 I kinda do have a clue.
@@Jason-Samko well for the one fault you find with the auto locker their is a lot more with electric lockers. The Auto locker is a pure mechanical locker their is no wire or electric solenoid to go wrong. Oh by the way wires corrode.
@bradsmith130 can not argue with you there. And never did. Like I said in the video the g80 is the most durable fail proof locker made. That's why gm has used it for so many years. But performance wide its not even close to a electronic locker. Bit it's much, much better than no locker
2:17 Shocking i know lol
Yep a tidbit to save big money
I've tried to select the 2wd for the trail boss but that's not an option. Unfortunately it only comes in 4wd. I had a 2021 z71 that was a 2wd and I was hoping to find it an option on the trail boss.
Yeah I think all manufacturers are cutting out the options that options that were not in high demand. A 2wd trailboss, although would be a great looking truck, would not be high demand. It's a bummer they don't offer that option.
no leds... idk
That's a bummer but it can be fixed with after market for 50 bucks. Did it on my tacoma too.
@@Jason-Samko can it really? You may have gotten my attention again!
@n0xxm3rcyxx yes. I put very expensive headlight revolution leds in my ram and they failed before a year. I put 39 dollar leds in my jeep that lasted u til I sold it 3 years later and I have 50 dollar leds in my tacoma and love them. Amazon sells a bunch of led lights for all makes and models and they work very well.
TB also no telescopic steering wheel, no remote start with out adding, no Bose, No leather, No sunroof, smaller instrument display
yep it has less features for sure.. but the price makes the tb a fantastic option with less money out each month.
He should put the price of each at that bottom. Big difference
Yep but $7-8 grand cheaper
@@albertmcfry6322 I did if you watch the build out for each so you see how I was specing them
Gord Monteath agree 100%. It's a tough call base on needs out of the truck and with the cost difference there it's not an easy choice. The stuff in the zr2 is pretty important to me but the price makes me wanna say "screw it, if I get stuck I know how to self recover so save the money". There is no right or wrong truck. Both are excellent.
I bought a new 2023 Colorado Trail Boss,,,,,he was trying to sell me a extended warranty for 5k,,, I laughed and told him NO! I told him it would take me 15 years to put 30k miles on it,, I bought it to pull my Bullet bass boat and just to have a little off road fun,,he also tried to get me to finance my bed liner, all weather floor mat and my 490 torque flash,,,,I said NO,,,I payed cash for all that! I put 30k down and my goal is to pay it off by end of year,,,I’m also getting that lighted front grill bow tie,,,it’s pricey!
Very nice and well done on putting that much down and paying off fast. Especially with the rates today! Beautiful truck
A base trail boss is 38495
Correct but not equipped to my liking need things like cruise control etc.
Yea, that’s fine, but for an off-road capable truck, that’s a good price and considering it can tow 7700 lbs. You can get the HO tune for like 395
@williambellew1720 it sure is alot of great truck for a great price. Love the trail boss. They nailed it with the 2023 changes too
This was the best year for the midsize GM line in the company’s history. I wish they would figure out how to cram the “old” 5.3l in one. My Gladiator would disappear quickly. I am curious about the torque numbers. I know different tunes peak at different rpm’s, but the extra torque with an extra 1000 rpm sounds like marketing speak to make the more expensive truck seem better. When there may be no real difference.
Agree it's the best truck gm ever made. I have not been a fan of anything gm has put out in over 20 years. But this 23 Colorado is fantastic and really speaks my language
@@Jason-SamkoTheir is a significant difference,, they raced a 392 torque Colorado against the H.O. 430 Torque Canyon and the Canyon beat the Colorado,,,I got mine flashed to the 430torque for around 500 dollars and you can tell,,I seen a video of a Colorado H.O. In four wheel drive do 0 to 60 in 6 seconds,,,My C5 Corvette does it in 4.5 seconds ,,,that is extremely quick for a not so light midsize pickup truck,,,I haven’t checked yet but I’m also gonna get a cold air intake whenever they are available,,I put a cold air intake on my Silverado when I bought it new and could really tell the extra HP big time! my point is ,it’s not just talk these trucks have torque power!
@jimmycline4778 love hearing this! The Colorado is most likely going to be my next truck
My heart says ZR2 but my wallet says Trail Boss, I will go ZR2.
@@ArchangelMLM 😂😂😂 you think the same way I do
Zr2 is actually 10k more than a trail boss
It's not. I made a video build both with basic stuff like a hitch and bedliner etc and it was 6k I think.
It was this video! I show the difference right here in the video!
@@Jason-Samko I just went to the page to build and the start was 10k difference. You might have mistaken for the z71. Trail boss starting build is 38,495 and zr2 starts at 48,295. That’s with just base with no additional options. You might have to recheck.
@phivunguyen83 as I said in the video somethings are mandatory in my opinion like a trailer hitch etc. Those things are options on the trailboss but mandatory in my opinion. When you add those few things like a hitch, a brake controller, cruise control etc. It's not 10k or even close. Again I show it all in the video
Neither.. get 2024 bison
Price might not be worth it yet. Will have to see. Can put 35s on a zr2 for a whole let less. No difference in gearing between the zr2 and bison. So not sure how it will really handle 35s with 3.42 years. Had 35s on a jeep with 3.73 gears and it was about worthless off road. Have to see how the 35s do in the bison. I think a zr2 with 34x11.50s would do much better off road crawling. But excited to see the reviews and the price of the bison when it hits