Canyon AT4X vs Colorado Trail Boss: Do You Need to Spend A LOT More to Go Off-Road?
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The Trail Boss would be so much better with a selectable rear locker, that was a perfect example of the limit of the G80.
If it had a selectable rear locker, I would seriously consider it due to the ridiculous price of the ZR2 and AT4X, but the G80 just sucks off road.
It was probably a very conscious decision to do it that way, to get people to pay out for a more expensive model.
I think the price difference of a g80 versus the selectable rear locker would be something most Trail Boss owners would be willing to pay for. Having a 22 Duramax Z71 and a Silverado z71 with G80’s, they are better than an open diff but are very crude and the need of spinning the tire that much to get it to engage makes keeping through tough stuff really hard to do smoothly.
It doesnt help that everytime the g80 would actually lock andre lets off the gas. You just need to spin a little let it lock then you can start crawling it will stay locked, when u stop and roll back it unlocks. With a little more experienced driver this would have been a better example
My 2020 F150 had an electronic activated locking rear diff.
Absolute game changer, any new truck I bought would be required to have one. Or add one. About $1500usd for an eaton electric locking diff for a Dana M220
I'm not sure why GM made the g80 so much less sensitive lately. On my 1st gen Colorado z71 it locks right up with the tiniest bit of spin. I don't really even notice the wheel spinning because it is so immediate. Could be for drivability reasons. Sometimes if I give a generous amount of throttle coming out of a tight corner from a stop it will lock up on the street and chirp the tires.
Can’t wait to see you do a Ranger Raptor against that AT4X.
Came here to say this...
I think I like the Raptor better
@@richfarfugnuven6308no you didn’t. Stop lying
@@9663mu ok...
The ranger raptor is way better,man’s I own a silverado…
Gm midsize trucks look soo good now
Andre - while you have the AT4X, swap the tires with your truck to see if it all clears
Thr razor rocks were only an issue for the TB because he kept letting off the gas. He needed more "send it." Had enough ground clearance to not damage anything
So glad you all are getting back on the trails. That Tumbleweed Ranch stuff…oof.
What do you get for 17K more? hopefully cruise control! defiantly not better rims ROFL
Love the new GMC Canyon's, especially that AT4X. Its size makes it hard with a family of 5 for traveling though.
Easy peasy. Throw the child you like the least in the bed. Problem solved. 🤠
Smart Alec…u beat me to it…😂
🤔 17K difference? I would say it is color, no cruise control, no back up camera, no front camera, no lockers, instrument cluster going blank on you, cannot get GM to get you upgrades. That is just for starters. lol A lot of glitches in your golden goose.
To be honest once you learn how the g80 locker works its not a bad traction device to have. Andre is making it look worse than it is because he doesnt want to damage the TB
No s… who wants to damage their truck
I don't know, didn't look that great to me. Looks like its especially bad for slow speed rock crawling.
He should have kept going once he started to spin, that’s when the lockers engaged.. . The locker sucks for sure but still better than an open diff.
@@vincefairleigh6899 agreed
@@drayray4009which is half of why these tests (and trucks/ SUVs) are pointless. Who wants to tear up their $50k truck when they can beat the shit out of a $3000 jeep?
That white in the interior of the AT4X.....that's going to get dirty (and ugly) really quickly. 😩
Would have been easy in the razor rocks if you’d stop letting off the gas every time that locker kicks in. Sheez
Seems like not all G80 s work the same, I had two early 2000s full size Chevy's and I believe they kicked in quicker than Andres trail boss. Has anyone else experienced this?
You reviewers should quit talking about how everything is hidden in the menus... hit the truck icon. it gives you the basics that everyone complains about. The Light button is a thing, but everyone looks for the light switch in any vehicle. Also you could have used one pedal in terrain mode in the ATX4. I have the 23 ZR2 and it is AWESOME! Read the manual before you go out fellas!
The G80 is designed for the throttle to be maintained, letting off unlocks the DIF. Stay lightly on it and follow through. Great video, wish I had those obstacles here!
Right? It seemed like right as it locked up he let off the gas.
Yes, he just doesn't quite get how it works and how to use it. He'll get it!
Trail Boss is USELESS without cruise control 😂😅
That canyon has got some FLEX for a stock truck!
I really like the G80 locker in my Colorado. Especially in the winter.
It’s better for daily driver duties than a selectable.
@@Bpf1893That's a great point and another reason the G80 is a great addition to your truck and might honestly be a better option then a designate locker for most truck owners.
@@duncdunc76 That could be, better for normal driving like snow/mud, but inferior for rock crawling. Everything is a trade off.
Thank you for this comparison of two versions of the new mid size twins. Interesting seeing how they handle the same obstacles.
The AT4X just seems like a more luxurious ZR2. I owned a 2017 diesel ZR2 for a while and it was a phenomenal truck for these kinds of trails.
Like watching 2 beautiful women competing for my affection overcoming obstacles while I want to marry both.
I want to see the two titans go head to head, TRD Pro vs Canyon AT4X.
Add the new Ranger Raptor for a 3x competition.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I'm waiting for all three to hit the market and start getting reviews and owner feedback. Plus competition will lower prices, frankly I like all three.
That probably won’t be until new gen Tacoma comes out, wouldn’t really be a fair comparison comparing the new gen canyon to the outgoing Tacoma
I almost bought a 2023 Tacoma trd pro but decided not to do so when my local johnson city,tn Toyota dealer was adding a 5 grand market adjustment fee bringing the total price up to 58,500.00. I refused to pay that much for a mid sized 4x4 truck.
Although I will never be on trails like this, I have a question. Do I really need the rear lockers on a ZR2 if I’m only going to be driving in snow? Sometimes deep snow(2+ feet) maybe going up some hills that are bumpy etc. or is the G80 good enough? Thanx
You can really tell thats his personal truck haha. Needed to just keep the throttle down on the razor rocks, but he kept panicking.
I hate the colors on the at4 interior
The g80 would have been fine if he stayed on the throttle, as soon as you let off it unlocks.
You guys really need to use the same driver in every car during comparisons. It's very hard to gauge the difference in some cases.
Andrey & the G80 are not a pair made to match. You get it to lock and STAY on it!!! Even if you two foot it to keep the locker engaged!! Throttle-stop-throttle-stop just doesn’t work well with the Eaton Automatic Locking differential (order code G80). It’s not a perfect system for sure. You can get used to it, but it takes commitment, like Andrey said. It’s a locker Nathan could make great use of. I prefer the electronically activated rear (and front) lockers because you don’t need wheel spin to lock it. You just crawl along. I wouldn’t buy an AT4X, but I would get the ZR2 instead. A base ZR2 has all the capabilities for much less $$$. I do hate that GM has to bone ya for the front & mid skid plates another (Canadian) $1,000 or so.
For my needs the Trail Boss would be enough, but the Ranger & Tacoma is coming with the electronic locker/s. If Toyota hasn’t fixed the fact you need to be almost perfectly level to get the lockers & 4x4 engaged, the Ranger wins! With Ford, I don’t doubt you could be upside down & they would all engage still. AND the Ranger is slightly over 48” between the wheel wells. The Toyota & GMs definitely look better than the Ranger though. See what the Tremor version of the Ranger looks like. I haul plywood & drywall, especially drywall, too often and having the flat load floor wins!
Is there going to be a Tremor with the Ranger? I thought they were canning it because of the raptor coming. I love my 21 ranger. The locker is great and so easy to use. You can use it in 2wd and 4hi too.
I just hauled 16 sheet of drywall with a 23 Colorado. If you put a 2x6 in the slots in the bed it allows for the sheets to bridge the wheel wells. Any more than twenty sheets and it will be free delivery and I’ll have it delivered to the site.
@@JonBecker81 - wishful thinking on my behalf. If I were to think of the Raptor, I would just get a Colorado ZR2. In Canada I would be about $15,000 k less than the Raptor. I wouldn’t get that much more out of the Raptor than I would get out of the Colorado. Otherwise, an FX4 and a slight suspension modification I would do, get the parts & install myself. Then some slightly larger tires. The tires on the Rangers are even smaller than 2023 models.
@@shitloveaduck that’s what I did. Fx4 with 2 inch fox leveling kit. 32 inch KO2s and the ford performance tune. It’s pretty perfect for me.
@@JonBecker81 - ohhh WOW! Sounding like a VERY nice truck! Of the current trucks out there (except the ‘23 GM twins) the Ranger, lifted like you have, looks so great! Good on ya!
I don't know why he didn't just get a zr2 but that Canyons interior is nicer than my Desert Boss
Really looking forward to seeing the next gen ZR2 Bison out there walking all over that course.
I believe the only difference between that and the zr2 is more skidplates and a little more lifted to accommodate 35s. I'm not sure the 35s will be worth the reduced fuel economy. We'll see
Let the 4x4 wars begin! Maybe Toyota will finally put some front lockers on their Tacoma and 4runner.....in the next 15 years! Lol.
I had a 1st gen Colorado with the G80. The biggest thing is you have to two foot drive and drag th brakes to help it lock in. But a selectable lock does make it a lot easier.
Or just give it a little more pedal to spin the wheels faster so it grabs earlier.
that and the more miles that diff has the faster it engages too
Well on the plus side with GM showing its great initial build quality has not changed to the trail boss is fewer cameras to continue to replace. For 17k difference in price you can build a recovery rig for the Trail Boss.
Looking forward to seeing this against the Ranger Raptor! Should be good!
You guys realize no one is going to buy one of these right? Rental car companies maybe.
Please drag race those two so we can see any real difference in engine tune.
They made this video allready
The fact that you havent pulled that airdamn off yet is insane!
How would they do back to back OEM comparisons if he mods it?
I think they actually help a noticeable amount on mpg. But chevy should have made them easy to take on and off without tools and under 2 minutes.
looks easy enough from the online guides and videos. Just takes a trim tool and a small ratchet. Once familiar I can see it being a 60 second job.@@JonBecker81
@@JonBecker81I took my air dam off my 2nd gen Canyon and there was no noticeable difference in MPG.
Great video guys. I like the at4x but I would probably get a trail boss and swap out g80 for a Yukon gear and axel Dura-Grip ,this is what I did in my 05 sierra 1500 to make it more like a trail boss
It's Aug 22 and I haven't seen a single 2023 colorado on the road in the VA peninsula area from Richmond to VA Beach. Are they only available to youtubers?
The new Tacoma looks like the Colorado
@15:50 Andre certainly has an interesting take on the Can-am 😂
If you would stop letting off the gas the G80 will stay locked up
Andre for God's sake STOP letting off the gas lmao😂
I'm surprised that you haven't removed that chin spoiler yet!
Chevy is now removing them from the factory if you equip the skid plate option.
Do it against the ZR2 and the Ranger Raptor when it releases.
Andre needs to…go. So dramatic about everything and the whiny voice when off-roading kills every video. I bet he’s a nice guy, but the videos are getting severely watered down.
I wish more companies took a page out of fords book and offer the (mainly) lockers and suspension on all trims as an option like the bronco I don’t really need the bells and whistles.
One other thing the red truck has...cruise control. That is got to be worth $17k
LOL Ouch!
got my at4x last monday, definitely insanely fun, but no way is it meant to be a family truck lol. You dont have a ton of back space and I'm 6'5. this is a single mans truck, or one with a reallllllly cool wife to let him buy this lol.
Love that gmc canyon . I have a Tacoma .
Imagine having to use your own eyes while driving/off-roading. That's CRAZY😂 talk!
That road used to be driveable in my 2 wheel drive xterra until all the side-by-side folks destroyed it. Really amazing to see how much it has changed in this video.
Brand new truck and the rear camera is not working? To make things worse the dealership doesn’t have the parts to fix it? Did I hear that right? 40,000 truck with no cruise control, no back window defroster & no back up camera now! What a treat!
its a DIY project truck lol. one day we'll have the option to buy a vehicle without tires or air in them.
Auto-locking rear differentials are a gimmick to get you to pay $7-$10k more for a truck with a fancy limited slip differential 😂
GO BIRDS!!!!! nice video, gents...impressive offroading by the AT4X
Well that AT4 is awesome for those that can afford it and can afford to fix any issues that develop with the tech. That white interior is a no no for anyone who uses there truck for work though lol. Id personally take a truck with all the off road tech of the AT4 with none of the luxury. But I guess those trucks dont sell or arent super profitable for the makers. Honestly the only interior comforts I want are comfortrable durable seats, AC, power windows, and cruise control. Oh and I like physical buttons, no tablet screen with all the controls, no thank you. With the way all new vehicles are being made it seems Im in the minority with my preferences though lol.
You guys should do a comparison between the new ZR2 and the AT4x. It would be interesting to see how they both handle and if the AT4x would still be worth getting over the ZR2
They are mechanically and spec wise identical so there wouldn’t be much of a difference other than interior
Top vs mid. 😂 Seeing them in action actually makes sense for people trying to decide between the 2! My fiance ordered a Sierra AT4X this week. We recently moved to Utah from Canada.
Great video! I'm waiting for the second or third year production on these new trucks
That AT4X is super nice and very capable with those lockers
I think the big takeaway from this is a front locker does make a difference. The TB was on two wheels at one point and all the power in the front was going to the tire in the air and the one tire with grip in the back just kept spinning. A front locker would help tremendously there. Also, TFL loves to not air down their tires. Gives half an inch extra ground clearance at the expense of grip. If they do air down it's to like 20 psi, which is barely airing down at all (I personally go to at least 15, sometimes 12). All that considered, it also proves that while a cheaper rig may not be able to do the obstacles as easily (or may have to take a bypass) or take the same line, it can still go on the same trails.
I think people would really like to see a true comparison between the brothers, as in Chevy Colorado ZR2 vs GMC Canyon at4x.
G80 take a little wheel spin to lock up. But once it locks you need to keep going and not brake. It’s actually extremely effective.
Thank you for the great video.
Really not a fair comparison. Put the Canyon AT4x up against the Colorado ZR2.
How does it compared to the ZR2? Which seems like the Canyon ATX4 is the exact same car as the ZR2?
Yes more of this yes yes yes😊
Not just heated seats André, but cruise control as well on the GMC! 😂 great job guys!
Same with Jeep! Why can't we get all the good Hardware like lockers and Shocks without out all the interior upgrades etc.
Those tie rods look weenie... And best in business cameras should work. I feel like Andre has had quite a few issues with his already. Gm quality 😅
I’ll chalange you I got a 4 inch Titan swapped Nissan frontier 2022
Who thought it was a good idea to put white interior in an off road vehicle thats going to get dirty?? 🤔
AT4X should be compared to ZR2 not a Trail Boss (basic trim)
Yet another example of why the G80 is a garbage differential. It doesn’t make sense in serious off road applications, since there is no manual locking. Yet it also doesn’t make sense in street/slippery surface applications, since the lockup is excessively harsh. Just put a selectable E-locker in the off road trucks, and a geared LSD (ex Eaton TrueTrac) in the street trucks. Idk why GM still clings to a failed design.
No, Andre just can't drive. TFLs own Tommy made it up that in a Silverado Trailboss and made it look easy.
These guys don’t know how to correctly use the G80 locker. You need some wheel speed for it to engage and if you 2 foot (1gas, 1brake) it works seamlessly. Giving excess throttle can and will cause harsh engagement and unpredictable behavior from it. I’ve had 5 different GM products with the G80 and never ran into the issues they have.
@@terrencejones9817 my point about it being a bad design still stands. The fact that you can get it to sort of work by using unorthodox techniques doesn’t make it not suck. That’s like saying a road flare makes a suitable barbecue grill because you could theoretically cook a steak with it if you held it right. Again, there are far superior designs to the G80 for every application. There is no reason for GM to continue using it.
@splewy You and I would disagree. I've used several E lockers and Owned an F150 FX4 with the e locker for 5 years. Under 90% of conditions. The G80 works better.
Does the Trail Boss have cruise control?? Lol! Just giving you a hard time!
What do you get for another $17k? Hopefully cruise control 😂
How come Andre didn’t go through those puddles?
Nice that GM moved the shocks outward
About time they did👍🏻
Meh, If Im getting an an offroad truck for a good deal of money, Im either getting the previous gen Colorado ZR2, or a Tacoma TRD Offroad from 2012-15. I hate all this over top technology
Why, you could get a Jeep Willy or a UTV instead. Far more capable than a truck.
There is still not enough room for an adult in the backseat area. Make the cab 4 in longer.
Just curious if GM is watching or takes these videos with a grain of salt.
Jeep continues being king on trails, hills, mountains and snow
No one buy an American truck to go off-road. It more for posing.
White on interior is silly.. looks like a candy cane all the white and red.. ugh
I wish GM gave the option to buy the rear "E" locker in the Canyon AT4...the G80 is just OK
Hate to beat a dead horse but I still think he would have did better with a Pro4X. Would have been cheaper, would have got a locker and would have got cruise control for less than he paid.
No one wants one of those 70’s truck
The worst thing about the g80 is how long/fast the wheels have to spin to get it to engage
Need to know what tonneau cover Andre went with!!
i think you can take that chin spoiler off makes it look way better.
The Turbo Plus is dead for 2024. Now only the base tune and Turbo Max is available.
So... this is basically a cotton bow tie vs a silk bow tie 🤔 😒
If you stay on the throttle with that g80 and brake torque it just a little it will stay locked and not make you look goofy. g80s are fine. Not ideal but fine. If you think about it that trail boss is about as capable as the original ZR2. Just more power and less flex. Much stronger front diff though.
Getting into the $60-80k pricing is kinda wild for these, at this point if you’re going for a vehicle that off-roads I’m not sure why you wouldn’t choose a Bronco, Wrangler, Gladiator, etc… there are a TON of options for the insane pricing of these mini trucks and Broncos and Jeeps have more interior space🤷♂️ you can maybe fit a Pallet in the bed of these trucks but even then the wheel wells probably prevent them from sitting flat so I’m not sure at this price who the market is when you could get a full size 1500 for the same price🤯 just mind blowing what they are charging now.
Not really a fair comparison. i was wondering the guys weren't using the traction controls systems in available in each vehicle. Something i learned 30 years ago is, any locking Differential will disengage if don't keep the power on the locker or panic and roll backwards? Keeping the Locking differential LOCKED is Key. An old mechanic fella years ago showed me one of the easiest way to utilize the full potential of the locker, was when you feel the locker engage, then simply apply a little brake while keeping the power on the gas, never forgot that advice and it works.
But in the end, $17K can buy a lot of after market upgrades. Lift, Wheels & Tires, Rear Locker, Skid Plates, Under $10K, that leaves $7K for adventure Travel.
Andre, join the club and take the air dam off
I am watching this at the end of March 2024 (seven months after publication of the video) and the Trail Boss’ rear backup camera is still NOT fixed because the dealership doesn’t have the parts available. 😃
It's this dude driving from the monitor?
Hello Brothers and the TFL team!! I have a 2006 GMC Canyon SLE with Z71 suspension and Greneral Grabber AT2s with maybe a 80% rusted frame with black coat on it. Which level of off-road is okay to tackle?
Trim levels have gotten so out of hand. A midsize truck that costs $55,000. I can option a base trim 2023 Tundra with the 6.5 ft bed, trailer hitch, spray in bedliner, all-weather floor mats, and a TRD skid plate for $42,785. Insane.
Why are you wearing your seatbelts?