When I was trying to decide between the second generation Colorado and Canyon, the deciding factor was dealership customer service. Close to where I live there is a Chev and GMC dealership, 2 blocks apart. My preference was for the Chevy Colorado, but I had a bad experience at the Chev dealership, and so I picked the Canyon. The GMC dealership was easier to deal with, friendly, and I didn't dread going there. Knowing that I couldn't avoid the dealership, I decided that good customer service was more important than anything else.
they all suck at some point , I despise the one next to my house. Its the service departments that really gets under Your skin. There really offensive with there prices sometimes you want to beat the shit out of the guy and run his head thru the nearest wall . I had a tranny fluid change with tranny lines changed quoted at 1800 at the dealer and so I went to a mechanic down the road for the same job I paid $475 total job, and I watched him do it with all deco parts , the dealer won't do a job unless there totally ripping you off and its just not right because sometimes I want to go to the dealer, I avoid like the plague .
I have a 2016 Colorado diesel that I bought new - only time I ever went to the dealership was for the two free oil changes they offered and once for a DEF pump that was covered under the emission warranty. So yeah, you can avoid them. I do all my own work on it. Easiest to work on vehicle I’ve ever owned.
@Encourageable My gauge cluster stopped working on my 2002 Sonoma, and I tried guessing how fast I was going by "seat of the pants" feel. I took it to my mechanic, but it required special equipment to diagnose it. Then, at the dealership, I was told it would cost $600, and they would have to send it out for a week to be reconditioned. I called the salvage yard, and they had one, so I got a replacement for $90.
I know how you feel,,it’s so dreadful,,,you should take your GMC to Chevy dealer and show it to the person or persons and kindly tell them exactly why you made that decision!
The one nice thing about the plastic steering wheel is that it wears well. I have the rental car spec steering wheel in my 13 4Runner, and at first I was upset until I saw people with much newer 4runners complaining about wear on the fake leather wrapped wheel.
Halogen, HID, or LED is not the defining factor for how good a headlight is. It's whether it's a projector or reflector style. If everyone were required to have reflector headlights I'd be all for it. But as it is, every Toyota, Subaru, and Audi on the road blinds everyone else, so I want projectors too.
Respect to you Andre for admitting you prefer the canyon front end more. Most people are so insecure they could never admit that about their own purchase.
Both trucks look great, but I prefer the more sculpted body and headlights on the Colorado. GM skimped too much on Trail Boss, tho. LED lights and cruise control should be standard!
Trailboss: $43K+, no seat warmers, no LED lights, no fog lights, no steering wheel warmer. Definitely not a great vehicle for those of us in winter climates and/or in the mountains. As for the lack of LEDs, it's been a very very long time since I had a vehicle with Halogen lights, which is what my 2022 Nissan Frontier SV has now,. This truck completely sucks to drive at night in the mountains where I live. The visibility in front of me is the worst I have seen (well I can't see much) in the 20+ years of vehicles I have been leasing. 3 months left on this lease, and counting down.
@@colten53 a few of my previous vehicles had projector lamp style lights that worked great in the mountains at night. The standard reflector style halogens in my 2022 Nissan Frontier are the worst headlights I had since the late 90s. You don't see deer on the edge of the roads until you're very close with the halogens. In previous vehicles, their eyes would reflect back the light from a distance, so I could easily know where they were.
I'm kinda curious how easy it will be to swap out or what the aftermarket support will be. Or I could just get the AT4 and not deal with it. After modding my WRX, I kinda want to just have a turn-key complete car for once.
The price jump on the Canyon removed it right off my shopping list. I had a 2019 GMC Canyon V6 4x4 in an Extended Cab with the convenience and tow packages, as well as the spray-in bedliner. The sticker was $34,500. The 2023s are now starting at about $43K and you only get a 5' bed and no option for an extended cab. The reliability of my 2019 was a nightmare. The AC had to be replaced three times in less than three years, and the transmission and transfer case also needed warranty repairs are well in that time. GM was a nightmare to deal with, in summer 2019, the truck was 3 months old and the AC failed the first time. It then took GM 53 days to replace the AC, and only after my state's AG got involved. GM Corporate representative was unapologetic and was actually downright rude about the whole situation. At the prices GM wants these days for these trucks, it is a hard pass.
What's sad is that my 2007 Canyon with 118k miles has been less problematic since new. Never had a mechanical problem yet. Just stupid little things have gone wrong.
@@palebeachbum It killed me to lease return the GMC Canyon. The buyout was $21K, but replacing the AC annually would have been expensive, plus it had a history of transmission/transfer case issues. It was dog ship simple of a truck, and in theory, that truck should have gone 200K+ without issues, but sadly, mine must've been a Friday afternoon built lemon.
What engine? I have a 19 crew cab that I bought out at the end of my lease... Only have had two repairs that needed to be addressed at scheduled service. First was an issue the dealer caused but conveniently refused to acknowledge. The second was the water pump developing a nasty noise, but it was covered under powertrain warranty. My last service for oil, trans and 4x4 has brought it right back to driving like a brand new truck.
The Canyon front end just looks better in every way. Regardless of trim level. Wouldn't bother with the Denali but the AT4 checks all the boxes and is better equipped than the Z71.
I agree... last two trucks have been GMC. I'd likely go Colorado like yours....except with cruise control! Really dislike not having it. Rented cars without and its just annoying. In todays age with tech and "drive by wire" with the controls easier it should just be standard.
I live near the road you are on near Asheville and have driven that stretch a million times. In the late 80’s, there was the absolute craziest thing ever that happened on that exact stretch of road.
If you really think about it and get the 4x4 elevation Canyon, you're looking at the same cost with the same ride height and width, but you get more features and a nicer looking truck.
But, you are spending more than what the last generation trucks cost... I've played with the online configurator, and you very quickly eclipse the MSRP of the outgoing models with similar options.
I'd choose the Colorado as well, as the extra 18K could be better used elsewhere. I'd choose a different color (probably black) and would opt for the cruise control and a rear window defroster. Everything else is "good to go"!
Depends on the companies profit margins. If they are going on a 30% profit per truck, then Msrp x .70 = actual cost 100k truck on a 30% profit margin, costs 70k to build. Highly unlikely so I’m guessing they have a higher profit margin per truck.
@@MonsterTruckingCo. Yeah, margins aren't consistent across all trims and models. The higher the trim level, the significantly higher the margin. A $70k-$80k "luxury" truck literally has over 50%-60% margins. Every truck is using many of the same components, OEMs have just convinced people to pay an extra $20k for leather seats, shiny/painted trim, and some tech gimmicks. Even base 2wd work trucks now bring in minimum 20%. To put dollars on it, GM is averaging something like $25k on every truck they sell.
It's personal taste but I think the Colorado wins easily. The grill seems like a wash to me as they both have attractive looks. The Colorado has a better hood, tail gate, and tail lamps imo.
I really like both of these trucks, and I would choose them over the Tacoma. However the more I think about it, my two big disappointments are the leaf springs and steel bed. Coils and a composite bed would be a good advancement.
@@ABC-nv8ly All subjective of course but I totally disagree. They went too overboard on the new Tacoma's. They look like transformers and not in a good way.
You can just press the start button and immediately release it (no need to keep it pushed in while the ignition turns on and the engine cranks). Pro tip to save some time 😊
I would still pick the Canyon over the Colorado just because I like the wide body look. I like the high output engine but if the Colorado had all that with the wide body. It might be a hard decision.
Ahhh, they're the same truck just slightly different styling and a nicer interior and higher price tag for the GMC. The ZR2 has the same "wide body" for less money. You can get the same HO engine in the Chevy.
I really enjoyed my 2018 ZR2 and might have kept it if I was willing to deal with the potential diesel repairs. Just wish it had come with more features for the $45k+ MSRP.
I really wanted the DuraMax in my 2020 ZR2 but, started to get turned off by all the DEF system issues they were having with them....Actually with the price of diesel and DEF fluid there really isnt much advantage to specifying a diesel over a gas powered truck these days. Happy I bought my 2020 Xtra Cab ZR2 when you could still find a 2 door truck....I don't want a long wheelbase "Station Wagon" when I hit the dirt. No real complaints with my ZR2....Mileage really sucks @ 19-18MPG but, besides that....love it!
Y’all should definitely do a mega mashup like the old days with the PRO-4X, TRD PRO, AT4X, ZR2/ZR2 Bison, Ranger Raptor, maybe Ridgeline HPD. I would love to see one big video or even a series
I like the GMC much better... Especially, if it has cruise control.😎 As for the Denali, I'd go for any color other than black 'cause I live in the south, and I'm not moving to the north for less than 3times my current salary and 95% of the Denali edition of anything GMC makes is freaking black. If you get a black, you'll see yourself everywhere.
All modern mid-size and even full-size trucks are becoming SOOOOOO GOOOD at being trucks (i.e. hauling, towing and overlanding) that the ONLY FACTORS as to which one you choose to buy or lease should be Dealer Experience (i.e. good customer service) and a COMBINED low-monthly truck financing payment AND comprehensive vehicle insurance plan playment! Those are now the ONLY factors that should come into play! On a realistic basis brand loyalty is NO LONGER A FACTOR and should be discarded in favour of getting the lowest monthly playment for a truck that lets you tow the most, haul the most and/or give you the best interior comfort and technology for your personal tastes! Go for the dealer and truck that BEST WORKS for your monthly wallet outlay and best customer service (i.e. are they prompt in fixing things!) If your local Chevy, Nissan, GMC, Ford, Toyota, RAM or Jeep dealer can give you a COMBINED set of low payments and good customer service, then GO BUY OR LEASE YOUR TRUCK AT THAT DEALER! V
So specd out as similarly as i can make them, of course many options not available on the Colorado, $41,385 for the Trail Boss and $50,290 for the Canyon AT4. For the extra $9000 on the Canyon you get the LED headlights, nicer interior materials, engine tuned for max output, hud that looks cool i guess, better sound system, more external cameras. I'll pay more and get the AT4, but if Chevy had put the led headlights, cruise control and color matched front grill inserts standard on the Trail Boss I'd have been all in. Time to order my AT4 and start the waiting game I guess.
@@johnlassiterjr.3431 $45K when you actually select the trim in the build and price. I came out with $52K when all was done....hard pass vs. $42K for a Trail Boss with the options Andre missed (sliding rear window comes in the cruise control pkg...sorry Andre)....plus added spray in bedliner and skid plates. Had to go with cloth interior due to the pkg restrictions.
Love ya Andre but I can't keep quiet any longer! The base Colorado only has 237hp, you've stated it has around 260hp for a while now and I just can't take it, j/k. This is a significant difference from the other power levels of the 2.7. and 260hp ;) Otherwise you're always spot on!
My thought is for the price Andre paid for his Colorado, cruise control, led lights, and leather wrapped steering wheel should have been included. There’s no reason why those things aren’t standard equipment. For the price of his Colorado I think he could have bought a used low mileage truck with those features. There really isn’t a justifiable reason for the prices of todays new trucks. It’s sad
Im 5'8 with a 08 silverado, love that truck with my life, but my dad keeps telling me to save up for a new canyon or colorado. I truly cant shake over my first love that I grew up in as a kid 🥲
Great compare Andre. Agree with all your points, especially at what is missing on a Canyon that costs that much. I feel like the AT4 (non X) is right level on the Canyon side before the price gets too crazy. In our area the discounts are bigger on the Canyon. Had to laugh I have that same Tyger brand tonneau cover on my old F-150 for years and it works great and has held up well. Debating if I can live with a size down truck, just wish there was a bigger bed option like Toyota.
That’s not necessarily true a lot of people don’t do truck things every single day and prefer the styling and utility of a truck in a small form factor plus you have to take into account that new midsize trucks are roughly the Same size as early 2000s and 90s half tons
This is a good refresh. For whatever reason.... The last gen GM Canyon/Colorado and the last gen Ford Ranger all looked a generation behind compared to the rest of their line ups when they came out.
I would love to drive a new elevation or "mid spec" canyon and compare it with my 19 canyon... I am seeing a lot of cost saving measures that I think would rather annoy me.
Close but not really. I priced both with what I wanted. Got just under 41k for TB and got 44.5k with the Elevation. And then you get the forced Onstar subscription with canyon. Gift that keeps on giving.
I thought that too until I built an Elevation. The elevation only comes with a single speed transfer case, it does not have four low. If you have any aspirations or thoughts that you may take it off road, that's pretty much a deal breaker. I imagine that would hurt resale value a pretty good amount as well.
I’m sure it has already been said already, but no cruise control standard across the board on any trim is ridiculous for any automobile. Sure, you might get away with no A/C, but cruise should be standard across all trim levels.
Trucks are soooooo expensive now. I was looking at the Colorado, really liked the canyon AT4 @ around $45k, but that's getting close to some full size trucks and really wanted to keep the price within my budget. So.... What did I do??? Bought a 2023 Nissan frontier of course. Lol pro 4x in Boulder gray pearl. It's a nice looking truck. And got a nice discount, and didn't have to wait for it, was on the lot. $39k before TTL. That's over $6k less than the canyon AT4, maybe close to 8k with destination.
This is apple to oranges kind of comparison, you should compare the Denali to the Z71 and the Trail boss with the AT4, and of course later on the AT4X with the ZR2
That's not a good business model for them. Great for the consumer though. They do give you an option... it's zr2, or the canyon route. What gmc/ Chevy did was give everyone an option. People expect things for free. Wish that was the case.
@@elche1976 Exactly correct. I said the same thing, they want all the features and amenities of the Canyon AT4 for the starting price of the Chevy Colorado and that’s why they’re complaining about the price although nobody in the industry is offering anywhere near that type of value, for some reason they expect that from *gm.* 😂
I think they should have done an LT trail boss like the big one, I think they should have given someone the option, for the miniscule amount of leather they use, that in the LT instead of plastic seats. It looks much much nicer than the previous generation but still we can nit pick at the cheapness all day long that ALL manufacturers use but it's still nice. And I'm surprised that someone twisted GMs arm so much that they actually used an engine that is in a full sized truck with at least an option to have the same power instead of during it down like the first Gen v8
People have been shitting on the new Ranger and joking it will be unreliable. Maybe that's true but where I work we use the now last gen Colorado (2019/2020) and they are trash. The 20 is nicer than 19 but both years are very unreliable. We're always bringing them in to the dealer for various issues and the transmissions do not want to shift normally at lower speeds. I would absolutely NOT recommend. Mind you most of these are 50-80k miles.
Affordable truck, funny. Headlamp bulbs, it costs ZERO, to put LED's vs. Halogen. Z-E-R-O. Manufacturer's cheap out and charge more. Welcome to our new world. Great job André. I hope you can get cruise control on your 40k truck!
Hopefully used car prices start to come down in the next year, used trucks are almost as expensive as new ones and still have over 100k miles on them in some cases.
Amazing how the Colorado/Canyon went from irrelevant for me in 2022 to benchmark relevant in 2023. Impressive. My biggest concern is whether these trucks will be reliable. I am not buying until the end of 2024. Personally, I would shop for the Colorado Trail Boss or Canyon Elevation 4WD or possibly the Canyon AT4. No interested in the WT, ZR2, Denali, or AT4X. Probably not interested in the LT or Z71.
Big turn off for gmc is their logo on the front and back. I wanted the most off road worthy truck so I was between the zr2 and at4x. I spec each one out with the same options: Zr2- 52k non desert boss At4x- 59k non edition 1 I get it the gmc looks nicer on interior but that price difference is something to consider. I like the gmc headlights but again, I feel like the front end and logos on front and back on gmc are too in your face. Major turn off. Oh I went with and ordered a zr2 lol.
You’re not a GMC owner. That’s for sure. Based off your comment complaining about the logos, sounds like you’d be new to the brand and that’s a WIN for GMC. They must be doing something right! Lol.
The Denali should have fully adjustable, electronic, suspension, electronic retractable steps, and everything powered, including AC ventilated seats upfront like a Denali
I know It’s a vehicle review and I’m not necessarily right, but sometimes when it’s all spelled out like this I pity all the tech measuring from one vehicle to the next. It feels like a status thing. My expectation is capability, reliability and a good ride. (Okay maybe looks matter too)
In my opinion it’s good that they only have 1 option there getting smarter there should only be 1 option in drive and that’s 4x4 only. No truck should ever come without 4x4
At least none of you south of the border have prices as bad as they are here in Canada. The Canyon and Colorado can both cost $65,000-$68,000 with all of the goodies, and higher trimmed full sized trucks are $100K+ on a normal day. I recently did a build and price of a Colorado LT and Z71, and there would be no savings with the LT when you add a couple of option groups. The Z71 Colorado and the AT4 Canyon are the price of a LTZ Silverado or Sierra Denali (well, from 5 years ago). Thats a big ask, when you can find a nicely equipped Durango RT for the same money (yes, I know they are a full sized SUV, but they have the V8, selectable AWD, and a loaded interior for the same kind of money). I am with others, I will wait to see how the Canyon and Colorado have been around for a year or two and see how well they hold their value. I also want to see what they change or update in them too. Things such as no physical headlight switch, no physical cruise buttons, a prop rod for the hood (seriously, on a $50K+ vehicle!?), halogen headlights and tail lights on any trim above WT (C'mon...if Toyota can put LED projector headlights on almost every Corolla, you have no excuse GM). I would also be curious to see if they make any street truck/RST versions of them down the road too (not everyone does Overlanding with their truck). I think if they did that, offer a street spec version in addition to tasteful evolutions of the off-road variants, they will have trucks for everyones tastes and interests.
I have a problem with both of these trucks. 1: Why in the world does a Denali not have a power sliding back window. Way to much money for me to be reaching in the back to open the window. 2: Why is cruise control an option. Something that simple should be standard.
I believe if you’re going for anything other than the top trim, go Canyon or you’re penny pinching go Colorado of course if it’s pure money. Or whatever looks you like. If your willing to spend 3k ish more I’d go GMC, more standard features, stance and motor tune. However, ZR2 VS AT4x I think is where the Colorado wins. It’s about 6-8k USD less for essentially the same thing. Plus the AT4x white and red tacky interior. Hard pass.
@@ethenjordan2010 it wasn’t an argument or rebuttal, you’re the one trying to convince the masses there’s no difference between a AT4X and a Colorado ZR2 yet somehow both seem to sell well which means there are many folks who already know better and disagree with you as well. No need in creating a convincing argument when it’s the reality. Haters will pretend there’s no difference until money isn’t a factor and then suddenly everyone prefers the Canyon.
Are they the most popular among their lines or... are they the most sold since the dealers are ordering them in those specs to improve profit margins? Not may people want to wait for an ordered lower trim, nor are they interested in waiting for a dealer trade (if possible).
I just read an article yesterday about how car dealers are getting upset that manufacturers are sending them all the high end models, which they're having a hard time selling in some places.
Several strange choices made by GM. The light control being in the large screen seems silly. Why not at least put it in the driver info screen if you don't want to use a knob. I leave my lights on auto most of the time so I get it but I like just pushing the button to turn on fog lights and headlights. It's also crazy to me that they didn't include a power rear window in the Denali. And then there's the lack of cruise control on Andre's truck . . . oof. The payloads aren't terrible but the beds are so small you likely won't have an issue anyway.
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When I was trying to decide between the second generation Colorado and Canyon, the deciding factor was dealership customer service. Close to where I live there is a Chev and GMC dealership, 2 blocks apart. My preference was for the Chevy Colorado, but I had a bad experience at the Chev dealership, and so I picked the Canyon. The GMC dealership was easier to deal with, friendly, and I didn't dread going there. Knowing that I couldn't avoid the dealership, I decided that good customer service was more important than anything else.
they all suck at some point , I despise the one next to my house. Its the service departments that really gets under Your skin. There really offensive with there prices sometimes you want to beat the shit out of the guy and run his head thru the nearest wall . I had a tranny fluid change with tranny lines changed quoted at 1800 at the dealer and so I went to a mechanic down the road for the same job I paid $475 total job, and I watched him do it with all deco parts , the dealer won't do a job unless there totally ripping you off and its just not right because sometimes I want to go to the dealer, I avoid like the plague .
I have a 2016 Colorado diesel that I bought new - only time I ever went to the dealership was for the two free oil changes they offered and once for a DEF pump that was covered under the emission warranty. So yeah, you can avoid them. I do all my own work on it. Easiest to work on vehicle I’ve ever owned.
@Encourageable My gauge cluster stopped working on my 2002 Sonoma, and I tried guessing how fast I was going by "seat of the pants" feel. I took it to my mechanic, but it required special equipment to diagnose it. Then, at the dealership, I was told it would cost $600, and they would have to send it out for a week to be reconditioned. I called the salvage yard, and they had one, so I got a replacement for $90.
I know how you feel,,it’s so dreadful,,,you should take your GMC to Chevy dealer and show it to the person or persons and kindly tell them exactly why you made that decision!
Kind of blows my mind with the prices of trucks these days that you still get a plastic steering wheel and halogen lights on the trailboss.
I prefer halogen headlights. You don't blind people and other people with halogens won't blind you.
Why do idiots assume pricing is based on light bulb type??
The one nice thing about the plastic steering wheel is that it wears well. I have the rental car spec steering wheel in my 13 4Runner, and at first I was upset until I saw people with much newer 4runners complaining about wear on the fake leather wrapped wheel.
@@OBS4ever16 nobody prefers halogens. Maybe poor people
Halogen, HID, or LED is not the defining factor for how good a headlight is. It's whether it's a projector or reflector style. If everyone were required to have reflector headlights I'd be all for it. But as it is, every Toyota, Subaru, and Audi on the road blinds everyone else, so I want projectors too.
Respect to you Andre for admitting you prefer the canyon front end more. Most people are so insecure they could never admit that about their own purchase.
Canyon AT4 is perfectly capable and nice without being overkill. It is the sweet spot IMO.
Would the at4 be the equivalent to Chevys Z-71 trim….that’s the one I’m liking so far….I just think the Chevy looks better
AT4 fall apart off road
@@jeffreylank9097 how do you know ?
Way overpriced for what you get in my opinion.
@@robarmstrong5404 what’s not over priced? Vehicle prices are nuts no matter what it is.
Both trucks look great, but I prefer the more sculpted body and headlights on the Colorado. GM skimped too much on Trail Boss, tho. LED lights and cruise control should be standard!
I don’t care for LEDs, but I do think fog lights should be standard at the very least
Trailboss: $43K+, no seat warmers, no LED lights, no fog lights, no steering wheel warmer. Definitely not a great vehicle for those of us in winter climates and/or in the mountains. As for the lack of LEDs, it's been a very very long time since I had a vehicle with Halogen lights, which is what my 2022 Nissan Frontier SV has now,. This truck completely sucks to drive at night in the mountains where I live. The visibility in front of me is the worst I have seen (well I can't see much) in the 20+ years of vehicles I have been leasing. 3 months left on this lease, and counting down.
@@colten53 a few of my previous vehicles had projector lamp style lights that worked great in the mountains at night. The standard reflector style halogens in my 2022 Nissan Frontier are the worst headlights I had since the late 90s. You don't see deer on the edge of the roads until you're very close with the halogens. In previous vehicles, their eyes would reflect back the light from a distance, so I could easily know where they were.
I'm kinda curious how easy it will be to swap out or what the aftermarket support will be. Or I could just get the AT4 and not deal with it. After modding my WRX, I kinda want to just have a turn-key complete car for once.
and I think I prefer the GMC looks - they are sufficiently different this generation
The price jump on the Canyon removed it right off my shopping list. I had a 2019 GMC Canyon V6 4x4 in an Extended Cab with the convenience and tow packages, as well as the spray-in bedliner. The sticker was $34,500. The 2023s are now starting at about $43K and you only get a 5' bed and no option for an extended cab. The reliability of my 2019 was a nightmare. The AC had to be replaced three times in less than three years, and the transmission and transfer case also needed warranty repairs are well in that time. GM was a nightmare to deal with, in summer 2019, the truck was 3 months old and the AC failed the first time. It then took GM 53 days to replace the AC, and only after my state's AG got involved. GM Corporate representative was unapologetic and was actually downright rude about the whole situation. At the prices GM wants these days for these trucks, it is a hard pass.
Dang, everyone says these new GM products are good
What's sad is that my 2007 Canyon with 118k miles has been less problematic since new. Never had a mechanical problem yet. Just stupid little things have gone wrong.
@@palebeachbum It killed me to lease return the GMC Canyon. The buyout was $21K, but replacing the AC annually would have been expensive, plus it had a history of transmission/transfer case issues. It was dog ship simple of a truck, and in theory, that truck should have gone 200K+ without issues, but sadly, mine must've been a Friday afternoon built lemon.
JFC.
What engine? I have a 19 crew cab that I bought out at the end of my lease... Only have had two repairs that needed to be addressed at scheduled service. First was an issue the dealer caused but conveniently refused to acknowledge. The second was the water pump developing a nasty noise, but it was covered under powertrain warranty.
My last service for oil, trans and 4x4 has brought it right back to driving like a brand new truck.
How many views for Andre to be able to start modifying his Colorado?! That would be a fun series to watch
The only mod he wants is cruise control! 😂
@@Monz1976 😂😂 that's just #1!
The Canyon front end just looks better in every way. Regardless of trim level. Wouldn't bother with the Denali but the AT4 checks all the boxes and is better equipped than the Z71.
I agree... last two trucks have been GMC. I'd likely go Colorado like yours....except with cruise control! Really dislike not having it. Rented cars without and its just annoying. In todays age with tech and "drive by wire" with the controls easier it should just be standard.
I live near the road you are on near Asheville and have driven that stretch a million times. In the late 80’s, there was the absolute craziest thing ever that happened on that exact stretch of road.
If you really think about it and get the 4x4 elevation Canyon, you're looking at the same cost with the same ride height and width, but you get more features and a nicer looking truck.
But, you are spending more than what the last generation trucks cost... I've played with the online configurator, and you very quickly eclipse the MSRP of the outgoing models with similar options.
@@svpracer98 no doubt you are, but that's expected with all the new features they come with
I'd choose the Colorado as well, as the extra 18K could be better used elsewhere. I'd choose a different color (probably black) and would opt for the cruise control and a rear window defroster. Everything else is "good to go"!
The At4 trim looks to have everything I want in a truck. Now i just have to find $45k....
Or wait a few years for all these prices to come down and get a discount
These prices are ridiculous! Love to know the actual cost to build!
Depends on the companies profit margins. If they are going on a 30% profit per truck, then Msrp x .70 = actual cost
100k truck on a 30% profit margin, costs 70k to build. Highly unlikely so I’m guessing they have a higher profit margin per truck.
@@MonsterTruckingCo. Yeah, margins aren't consistent across all trims and models. The higher the trim level, the significantly higher the margin. A $70k-$80k "luxury" truck literally has over 50%-60% margins. Every truck is using many of the same components, OEMs have just convinced people to pay an extra $20k for leather seats, shiny/painted trim, and some tech gimmicks. Even base 2wd work trucks now bring in minimum 20%. To put dollars on it, GM is averaging something like $25k on every truck they sell.
@@MonsterTruckingCo.except you are leaving out the biggest cost. R&D.
@@FXIIBeaver that would be added onto the profit margins to account for.
It's personal taste but I think the Colorado wins easily. The grill seems like a wash to me as they both have attractive looks. The Colorado has a better hood, tail gate, and tail lamps imo.
I really like both of these trucks, and I would choose them over the Tacoma. However the more I think about it, my two big disappointments are the leaf springs and steel bed. Coils and a composite bed would be a good advancement.
2024 tacoma is coming. Way better looking than this 2
@@ABC-nv8ly how do you know? They haven't shown any official photos, just renderings.
@@trailrunnah8886 yes I know. Taco will be revealed on May 19. But the rendering looks very very nice
@@ABC-nv8ly All subjective of course but I totally disagree. They went too overboard on the new Tacoma's. They look like transformers and not in a good way.
Truthfully tacoma colorado and canyon really have the same type of body lines and tacoma still has leaf springs on the lower line .
How TF cruise control is not STANDARD on ALL vehicles costing more than $20K????
You can just press the start button and immediately release it (no need to keep it pushed in while the ignition turns on and the engine cranks). Pro tip to save some time 😊
Buddy !!!! You got the best colour and your right the rear of that vehicle looks awesome..and that black front looks good too ..
I would still pick the Canyon over the Colorado just because I like the wide body look. I like the high output engine but if the Colorado had all that with the wide body. It might be a hard decision.
Ahhh, they're the same truck just slightly different styling and a nicer interior and higher price tag for the GMC. The ZR2 has the same "wide body" for less money. You can get the same HO engine in the Chevy.
I really enjoyed my 2018 ZR2 and might have kept it if I was willing to deal with the potential diesel repairs. Just wish it had come with more features for the $45k+ MSRP.
I really wanted the DuraMax in my 2020 ZR2 but, started to get turned off by all the DEF system issues they were having with them....Actually with the price of diesel and DEF fluid there really isnt much advantage to specifying a diesel over a gas powered truck these days. Happy I bought my 2020 Xtra Cab ZR2 when you could still find a 2 door truck....I don't want a long wheelbase "Station Wagon" when I hit the dirt. No real complaints with my ZR2....Mileage really sucks @ 19-18MPG but, besides that....love it!
Y’all should definitely do a mega mashup like the old days with the PRO-4X, TRD PRO, AT4X, ZR2/ZR2 Bison, Ranger Raptor, maybe Ridgeline HPD. I would love to see one big video or even a series
+1500lbs of payload in a midsize is pretty good, there's some 1/2 tons loaded up with trim options with lower payloads!
I like the platform of this video. Back and forth comparison between the two.
I like the GMC much better... Especially, if it has cruise control.😎
As for the Denali, I'd go for any color other than black 'cause I live in the south, and I'm not moving to the north for less than 3times my current salary and 95% of the Denali edition of anything GMC makes is freaking black. If you get a black, you'll see yourself everywhere.
All modern mid-size and even full-size trucks are becoming SOOOOOO GOOOD at being trucks (i.e. hauling, towing and overlanding) that the ONLY FACTORS as to which one you choose to buy or lease should be Dealer Experience (i.e. good customer service) and a COMBINED low-monthly truck financing payment AND comprehensive vehicle insurance plan playment! Those are now the ONLY factors that should come into play!
On a realistic basis brand loyalty is NO LONGER A FACTOR and should be discarded in favour of getting the lowest monthly playment for a truck that lets you tow the most, haul the most and/or give you the best interior comfort and technology for your personal tastes!
Go for the dealer and truck that BEST WORKS for your monthly wallet outlay and best customer service (i.e. are they prompt in fixing things!)
If your local Chevy, Nissan, GMC, Ford, Toyota, RAM or Jeep dealer can give you a COMBINED set of low payments and good customer service, then GO BUY OR LEASE YOUR TRUCK AT THAT DEALER!
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Great video. I would love to see an off-road comparison between the elevation canyon and the trail boss colorado (or even Z71)
I just traded for a 2018 colorado base 4x2 manual trans...30,000 miles like new...love it.
You got the same bed cover as me. I've had mine for 4 years and it is still in great condition.
So specd out as similarly as i can make them, of course many options not available on the Colorado, $41,385 for the Trail Boss and $50,290 for the Canyon AT4. For the extra $9000 on the Canyon you get the LED headlights, nicer interior materials, engine tuned for max output, hud that looks cool i guess, better sound system, more external cameras. I'll pay more and get the AT4, but if Chevy had put the led headlights, cruise control and color matched front grill inserts standard on the Trail Boss I'd have been all in. Time to order my AT4 and start the waiting game I guess.
I thought the AT4 started at like 43k
@MEF.... it's called the ZR2. Or if you don't care about the lift, z71. It's not TB or nothing.
@@johnlassiterjr.3431 It does.... but after options that many want, over 50k.
@@johnlassiterjr.3431 $45K when you actually select the trim in the build and price. I came out with $52K when all was done....hard pass vs. $42K for a Trail Boss with the options Andre missed (sliding rear window comes in the cruise control pkg...sorry Andre)....plus added spray in bedliner and skid plates. Had to go with cloth interior due to the pkg restrictions.
Even though the Trail Boss is more affordable it's still a great looking midsize pickup!
Love ya Andre but I can't keep quiet any longer! The base Colorado only has 237hp, you've stated it has around 260hp for a while now and I just can't take it, j/k. This is a significant difference from the other power levels of the 2.7. and 260hp ;) Otherwise you're always spot on!
Hey Andre! That stretch by the river near Asheville is part of my daily commute...Great time of year to visit!
I thought it was shot at uharrie national forest south of Greensboro
Near the arboretum?
My thought is for the price Andre paid for his Colorado, cruise control, led lights, and leather wrapped steering wheel should have been included. There’s no reason why those things aren’t standard equipment. For the price of his Colorado I think he could have bought a used low mileage truck with those features. There really isn’t a justifiable reason for the prices of todays new trucks. It’s sad
I'm waiting for my AT4... Gonna take a while, ordered at the end of April...
Need to compare trim levels that are close in level.
Im 5'8 with a 08 silverado, love that truck with my life, but my dad keeps telling me to save up for a new canyon or colorado. I truly cant shake over my first love that I grew up in as a kid 🥲
Great compare Andre. Agree with all your points, especially at what is missing on a Canyon that costs that much. I feel like the AT4 (non X) is right level on the Canyon side before the price gets too crazy. In our area the discounts are bigger on the Canyon. Had to laugh I have that same Tyger brand tonneau cover on my old F-150 for years and it works great and has held up well. Debating if I can live with a size down truck, just wish there was a bigger bed option like Toyota.
I like 18” rims over 20”
But off-road comfort is important to me.
Andre I can't wait to see how your Colorado does off-road.
I love the new truck design, but can’t get over the 4cyl sound. Just sounds cheap for such a nice truck.
Little trucks are not worth those prices.
While I wholeheartedly agree...they really aren't that "little" anymore lol
Also we live in an insane world where half tons are $60-$80k
@@anotherrandomtexan25 have you been inside one? They're super tight unless you're 5'6" in hight
That’s not necessarily true a lot of people don’t do truck things every single day and prefer the styling and utility of a truck in a small form factor plus you have to take into account that new midsize trucks are roughly the Same size as early 2000s and 90s half tons
@@anotherrandomtexan25 they are roughly the same size as 90s halftons like the f150 or Silverado 1500
Gm will add cruise control next year on the base trailboss.
No doubt. Literally only takes tfl/andre and their followers.
What else can we get them to change? 10 speed?!
@@kylecline3272 eventually, fords rangers already come with the 10 speed.
This is a good refresh. For whatever reason.... The last gen GM Canyon/Colorado and the last gen Ford Ranger all looked a generation behind compared to the rest of their line ups when they came out.
I would love to drive a new elevation or "mid spec" canyon and compare it with my 19 canyon... I am seeing a lot of cost saving measures that I think would rather annoy me.
Picking up a new 2023 canyon elevation today. $9500 in rebates couldn’t refuse that deal.
I would take elevation over the trial boss . More standard things at the same price as the trail boss
Close but not really. I priced both with what I wanted. Got just under 41k for TB and got 44.5k with the Elevation. And then you get the forced Onstar subscription with canyon. Gift that keeps on giving.
I thought that too until I built an Elevation. The elevation only comes with a single speed transfer case, it does not have four low. If you have any aspirations or thoughts that you may take it off road, that's pretty much a deal breaker. I imagine that would hurt resale value a pretty good amount as well.
I’m sure it has already been said already, but no cruise control standard across the board on any trim is ridiculous for any automobile. Sure, you might get away with no A/C, but cruise should be standard across all trim levels.
Trucks are soooooo expensive now. I was looking at the Colorado, really liked the canyon AT4 @ around $45k, but that's getting close to some full size trucks and really wanted to keep the price within my budget. So.... What did I do??? Bought a 2023 Nissan frontier of course. Lol pro 4x in Boulder gray pearl. It's a nice looking truck. And got a nice discount, and didn't have to wait for it, was on the lot. $39k before TTL. That's over $6k less than the canyon AT4, maybe close to 8k with destination.
This is apple to oranges kind of comparison, you should compare the Denali to the Z71 and the Trail boss with the AT4, and of course later on the AT4X with the ZR2
Many are concerned about GVW's. I think most trucks are over GVW when loaded for a weekend of camping for a family of 3-4.
The Canyon looks like you could pull up to a Four Seasons, whereas the Colorado would have 2 ATVs on the back and you’re parked at a Motel 6!
Ten years ago a sierra denali was this price. Maybe cheaper. Crazy times.
They need to build an LT Trailboss or at least give you the option to upgrade the basic trim.
That's not a good business model for them. Great for the consumer though. They do give you an option... it's zr2, or the canyon route. What gmc/ Chevy did was give everyone an option. People expect things for free. Wish that was the case.
@@elche1976 Exactly correct. I said the same thing, they want all the features and amenities of the Canyon AT4 for the starting price of the Chevy Colorado and that’s why they’re complaining about the price although nobody in the industry is offering anywhere near that type of value, for some reason they expect that from *gm.* 😂
I like both vehicles, but don't like all the chrome and street truck look of any Denali.
I know what you mean. GMC trying really hard for that "bad boy" image. Makes for a certain kind of buyer too.
Yeah I don’t care for the Denali trim
To bad they can’t give you the same color as you have to look at differences come on GMC. Like the GMC better just looks better
I think they should have done an LT trail boss like the big one, I think they should have given someone the option, for the miniscule amount of leather they use, that in the LT instead of plastic seats. It looks much much nicer than the previous generation but still we can nit pick at the cheapness all day long that ALL manufacturers use but it's still nice. And I'm surprised that someone twisted GMs arm so much that they actually used an engine that is in a full sized truck with at least an option to have the same power instead of during it down like the first Gen v8
Nice trucks but shocked at how little room you get in rear seat area. And now in the price range of a half ton for these little trucks
Definitely tht what got me out of the midsize truck
People have been shitting on the new Ranger and joking it will be unreliable. Maybe that's true but where I work we use the now last gen Colorado (2019/2020) and they are trash. The 20 is nicer than 19 but both years are very unreliable. We're always bringing them in to the dealer for various issues and the transmissions do not want to shift normally at lower speeds. I would absolutely NOT recommend. Mind you most of these are 50-80k miles.
Thanks Andre ..... Happy Tuesday Everyone ✌️
You feeling down today?
I feel like the rear defogger should be a standard feature regardless of trim
Also i am kinda disappointed on them not having s diesel option
I just can't believe how bad the mileage is on these twins
Affordable truck, funny. Headlamp bulbs, it costs ZERO, to put LED's vs. Halogen. Z-E-R-O. Manufacturer's cheap out and charge more. Welcome to our new world. Great job André. I hope you can get cruise control on your 40k truck!
Even my 1990 straight shift S10 had cruise control back in the day 😂😂😂😂😂
Well if the system is like newer vehicles, just get a replacement steering wheel with the buttons for cruise control on it and that should work.
ooh, if it comes to be, please do a video on adding cruise control to audres truck
no cruise control standard on the colorado TRAIL BOSS lol. How is this supposed to compete with the Tacoma that has TSS standard.
Not sure what the elevation is in CO but around Asheville, NC it’s like 9k-12k.
Andre, could you put the link to the tonneau in the description?
I would pick a V6 Nissan frontier with no Turbo BS and better fuel economy. Oh wait, I did.
cant wait for these to drop on the used car market after the first owner takes care of the depreciation : )
Hopefully used car prices start to come down in the next year, used trucks are almost as expensive as new ones and still have over 100k miles on them in some cases.
Amazing how the Colorado/Canyon went from irrelevant for me in 2022 to benchmark relevant in 2023. Impressive. My biggest concern is whether these trucks will be reliable. I am not buying until the end of 2024. Personally, I would shop for the Colorado Trail Boss or Canyon Elevation 4WD or possibly the Canyon AT4. No interested in the WT, ZR2, Denali, or AT4X. Probably not interested in the LT or Z71.
I would buy the one with cruise control offered as standard…😂😂😂
Paint the Colorado front end and hooks. Problem solved. The grill and badging on Canyon scream AARP.
I like the comforts of the denali but i don't want 20 inch rims on my 4x4
I picked up a set of 18’s for my LTZ so I felt better taking it off road this winter.
@Mr. Nice Guy must who buy the Denali will never go off pavement anyway.
@@elche1976 true but I drive on the beach and big rims just dig into the sand out there, if I bought it I’d put 18s on it.
10:24 Turbine style vent. Looks like the tail lights on a ‘64 Impala.
Have the same bed cover for my Ram - really good for the money!
20 inch wheels not ideal for offroad
Or black tow hooks😂
Big turn off for gmc is their logo on the front and back. I wanted the most off road worthy truck so I was between the zr2 and at4x.
I spec each one out with the same options:
Zr2- 52k non desert boss
At4x- 59k non edition 1
I get it the gmc looks nicer on interior but that price difference is something to consider. I like the gmc headlights but again, I feel like the front end and logos on front and back on gmc are too in your face. Major turn off.
Oh I went with and ordered a zr2 lol.
You’re not a GMC owner. That’s for sure. Based off your comment complaining about the logos, sounds like you’d be new to the brand and that’s a WIN for GMC. They must be doing something right! Lol.
@@G-Rated okay 👍
@@G-Rated well, that comment certainly made you appear like a douchenozzle. If that's what you were going for, well done.
@@garcia222008 Well am i correct? How many GMCs have you owned?
I absolutely love the simple red Gmc logo and I think it looks good on the front, alright in the back, but really good on the steering wheel
The Denali should have fully adjustable, electronic, suspension, electronic retractable steps, and everything powered, including AC ventilated seats upfront like a Denali
Love the AT4 but they don;t offer locking front and rear hubs is nuts.
I know It’s a vehicle review and I’m not necessarily right, but sometimes when it’s all spelled out like this I pity all the tech measuring from one vehicle to the next. It feels like a status thing. My expectation is capability, reliability and a good ride. (Okay maybe looks matter too)
In my opinion it’s good that they only have 1 option there getting smarter there should only be 1 option in drive and that’s 4x4 only. No truck should ever come without 4x4
This makes me want a canyon AT4 AEV. All white on a 6 inch lift
Thats like deciding between two apples just one shines more
Given the choice between the Chevy Colorado and the GMC canyon I'd pick the Ford ranger
😂😂🤣🤣😅😅
To me the Canyon just looks better and more refined.
$1250 for vinyl seats?!?! GM is off their rocker 😂
At least none of you south of the border have prices as bad as they are here in Canada. The Canyon and Colorado can both cost $65,000-$68,000 with all of the goodies, and higher trimmed full sized trucks are $100K+ on a normal day. I recently did a build and price of a Colorado LT and Z71, and there would be no savings with the LT when you add a couple of option groups. The Z71 Colorado and the AT4 Canyon are the price of a LTZ Silverado or Sierra Denali (well, from 5 years ago). Thats a big ask, when you can find a nicely equipped Durango RT for the same money (yes, I know they are a full sized SUV, but they have the V8, selectable AWD, and a loaded interior for the same kind of money).
I am with others, I will wait to see how the Canyon and Colorado have been around for a year or two and see how well they hold their value. I also want to see what they change or update in them too. Things such as no physical headlight switch, no physical cruise buttons, a prop rod for the hood (seriously, on a $50K+ vehicle!?), halogen headlights and tail lights on any trim above WT (C'mon...if Toyota can put LED projector headlights on almost every Corolla, you have no excuse GM).
I would also be curious to see if they make any street truck/RST versions of them down the road too (not everyone does Overlanding with their truck).
I think if they did that, offer a street spec version in addition to tasteful evolutions of the off-road variants, they will have trucks for everyones tastes and interests.
$45-60K for mid sized gas powered trucks... Seems they are taking advantage of peoples stupidity.
Check out the new Trail Boss, one hecka of a nice looking truck IMO.
I have a problem with both of these trucks. 1: Why in the world does a Denali not have a power sliding back window. Way to much money for me to be reaching in the back to open the window. 2: Why is cruise control an option. Something that simple should be standard.
Those 18in wheels with bigger sidewall tires way way better than Denalis wagon wheel low profile lookin tires
Chrome in general makes me think 80s and old men… who like polishing chrome :) A manual rear window would be a deal breaker for me.
Would love to know the exact differences between the colorado zr2 and the canyon at4 since they are close to the same price.
8:53 Anyone else wish for more driver leg room on the right instead of a huge center console taking up space in most modern vehicles?
I believe if you’re going for anything other than the top trim, go Canyon or you’re penny pinching go Colorado of course if it’s pure money. Or whatever looks you like. If your willing to spend 3k ish more I’d go GMC, more standard features, stance and motor tune. However, ZR2 VS AT4x I think is where the Colorado wins. It’s about 6-8k USD less for essentially the same thing. Plus the AT4x white and red tacky interior. Hard pass.
Agreed. Yes to all your points. I'm ordering the Canyon AT4
AT4X is far from the same thing as a ZR2. Just because you don’t see the value in the GMC at top trim doesn’t mean they’re essentially the same.
@@G-Rated That was not nearly a good argument for it.
@@MEFelicia i think thats the best route to go imo.
@@ethenjordan2010 it wasn’t an argument or rebuttal, you’re the one trying to convince the masses there’s no difference between a AT4X and a Colorado ZR2 yet somehow both seem to sell well which means there are many folks who already know better and disagree with you as well. No need in creating a convincing argument when it’s the reality. Haters will pretend there’s no difference until money isn’t a factor and then suddenly everyone prefers the Canyon.
41k and you don't get a rear defroster or usb ports for the back seats. Ughhhh
Dash are definitely different with 2-3 times the buttons in the Denali.
Are they the most popular among their lines or... are they the most sold since the dealers are ordering them in those specs to improve profit margins? Not may people want to wait for an ordered lower trim, nor are they interested in waiting for a dealer trade (if possible).
Love how they manipulate stats
I just read an article yesterday about how car dealers are getting upset that manufacturers are sending them all the high end models, which they're having a hard time selling in some places.
Several strange choices made by GM. The light control being in the large screen seems silly. Why not at least put it in the driver info screen if you don't want to use a knob. I leave my lights on auto most of the time so I get it but I like just pushing the button to turn on fog lights and headlights. It's also crazy to me that they didn't include a power rear window in the Denali. And then there's the lack of cruise control on Andre's truck . . . oof. The payloads aren't terrible but the beds are so small you likely won't have an issue anyway.