Haydn's music often has an unbelievably sentimental quality which underlies it in a subtle way. The mask of it, simultaneously, is full of life and fun. This combination makes it the most wholesome, sweet, and fulfilling listening experience I know of.
I hate hate hate ads in the middle of a concerto. I hate even MORE an ad before the first movement even ends. Imagine somebody jumping onstage right after the cadenza and screaming,” EAT AT JOE’S!” And then dashing off stage while the movement ends...idiots.
Historically Informed Performance - Pitch: Modern performances of 'baroque' music on 'original' instruments are usually played at A-415, although there was no standard pitch in 17th & 18th century Europe. A-392, A-409, and higher pitches were used in France, depending on the date and type of music. Handel's tuning fork (London, 1751) is A-422.5. By 1769 (the date of this Haydn violin concerto) the pitch in Esterhazy was likely A-420-422. In 1780, in nearby Vienna, Mozart's piano maker, Stein, used an A-421.6 tuning fork. In 1789, the Viennese woodwind maker, Frederich Lempp, advertised his instruments at A-430 - the pitch typically used for modern performances of 'classical' music on 'original' instruments. Musical pitch continued to rise, until by 1930's A-440 had become an informal standard in Europe & US, although symphony orchestra now often tune to A-441-445. Richard Webb Academy of Ancient Music (retired)
Io credo che per gustare questa musica bisogna essere in pace con se stessi col prossimo e con Dio.Non posso mai pensare che un delinquente si mettare a sentire queste armonie che richiamano a mondi di letizia di pace di bontà celestiale.E mi chiedo dove siamo arrivati a far musica oggi..
Haydn’s three extant violin concertos (one is lost) are not his greatest works though they are lovely to listen to; the C major is by some distance the best, this G major one is technically the easiest meaning that it is almost certainly pre-1761 and his Eszterhazy appointment, the A major is possibly an Eszterhazy work written for the fine 1st violin leader Luigi Tomasini and I would rate it between the other two. Compared to the contemporary symphonies and early divertimenti a quattro (string quartets), Haydn’s early concertos are some of his most ordinary works.
I knew all about Joseph Haydn even studying the classical era in which he wrote much of his famous works but for some reason never listened to anything he had written. I mean they said he was a genius wrote over 100 symphonies and the princes own personal composer yet I still never thought of listing to some of his works. Anyway I'm glad I found this it is really beautiful. Thanks.
Ya, I know what you mean about Haydn, He's so famous/well documented, & he has so much music, but for some reason, I barely every listen to him. I personally, find his music to be "Boring", & I think it has to do with the fact that its SO correct & perfect. I understand that he's one of the great's, & that it's also likely that my musical intelligence is not high enough to enjoy him the way others do. I generally listen to Bach, Scarlatti, Monteverdi, Fux, Paganini, & Mendelssohn, etc., but I know that list will grow to include all the greats, including Haydn, once I understand them & appreciate them.
How are there so many commenters who can tell that it’s a half step low but don’t even know what baroque tuning is? It makes me feel bad for not having perfect pitch
I’m playing for my all-region solo. It’s a wonderful piece, but I don’t know if I’ll be able to play it all (and well) by my audition. I feel so old playing this because I’ll be 15 during the audition! Most people who play this are like 10! I’ll give this my best shot though!
@@aureliebeckers2626 i didn’t make regionals last year (literally 3 chairs away) but i made it this last year! and turns out, the solo is for all state, rip. so next year i think i’ll go for state!
I am 15 now and gonna learn pieces like that because my technique is not good and I want to know more about classic I don't know why, but I became interested in playing violin only after I finished musical school)
Aika Voo ayyy good luck to you!! i still have no idea what districts for me is doing. i don't even know if i'm going to be able to audition but i hope so!
really wished i hadn't listened to this version first- now playing it at A-440 sounds wrong/less beautiful. i still love learning this piece and i look forward to the idea of mastering it.
Yeah I know right! I needed help with the counting and after listening to it I played, and the sound was totally different. I was waiting for this comment 😂
Jérémie L'Hostis Baroque tuning means that A was tuned to 415 Hz, as opposed to the 440 Hz that we're used to today. In other words, the whole song was lowered by half a step, and it just sounds strange to me.
nowadays we say: baroquetuning: 415 hz, modern tuning: 440 hz. But there always were many tunings. In the time of haydn the tuning was probably 420-430 hz.
Haven't checked, but if you think so, you are probably right. Cadenzas typically vary a lot, sometimes with every soloists interpretation or even with each performance. To find the exactly correct version among published/printed sheet music can often be quite difficult or even impossible, if it has not been published...
The Musical Nerd Show yeah, you‘re right! There are a lot of different cadenzas, the one i‘m playing is different than the written one and the played one. In all the RUclips concertos, i found ONE playing the same cadenza as me😂
the tuning of baroque instruments is slightly lower, whilst modern violinists tune to an A at 440 hertz baroque violinists tune to A at roughly 415hz so its slightly flatter
Slightly... I'd say a lot! I can't play it now because I listened to it so many times and this tuning is just stuck in my head!! Everything I play is out of tune and sounds horrible, I hate myself
The Breitkopf & Haertel edition is rather over-marked-up isn't it, cluttered up with far too many editorial markings (a lot of which don't make much sense). I'd recommend the Henle edition.
Hi I want to congratulate you for the excellent video! This concert is very beautiful! And I want to ask you a favor, you could spend the cadence of the first movement of this video? It is very cute and I do not get anywhere, I need it because I'm studying. Thank you.
Why is this recording played a half-step lower than what it is? It's supposed to be in G major but this recording is in G flat even though the music is in G
James Ngo Haydn lived from 1732-1809... pretty sure he was a classical era composer. Perhaps during the earlier stages of his life, baroque tuning was used?
@Philip Kasimir well I've had a history with music since age 5. I just don't know a lot of music theory or terminology. I can play well and I even sometimes compose music of my own.
Sources of this concerto are a bit sketchy, according to Henle, so it could be missing from the score. I certainly don't think it's an inadvertent error on the part of the players, and I think D# works very well (it's harmonically fine). I only commented because I've performed this work, and so it jumped out, as a rather nice surprise.
Tyler Randall I know I’m late from the time you posted this comment. It’s likely a different arrangement and even if it wasn’t, the soloist and ensemble can make decisions to interpret it differently than what’s on the page. :) music isn’t always what’s on the page in front of you, it’s about the ensemble and the creativity and the interpretation.
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For everyone:
Movement 1 : 0:00 ( or 1:14 for beginning of the solo)
Movement 2 : 7:49
Movement 3 : 13:44
Thank you so much I am using your comment everyday to practice the piece
@@elice6819 me too
Haydn's music often has an unbelievably sentimental quality which underlies it in a subtle way. The mask of it, simultaneously, is full of life and fun. This combination makes it the most wholesome, sweet, and fulfilling listening experience I know of.
Very nicely put!
Indeed! The brightness and tunefulness are captivating. Have just been studying the bowing of various performances - also very interesting! G Ire
You devalue music, especially that of the gallant style by listening to it so emotionally
@@Whatismusic123 Indeed if he does it, but Haydn is not "gallant style" music.
@@pepehaydn7039 as far as I know, he is.
It sounds 100x better when you play it already.
right?????
really???
I don't like this interpretation. The most beautiful parts are played too fast, can't really enjoy them. Too jumpy
It’s just a few second wait jeez
Agree
I hate hate hate ads in the middle of a concerto. I hate even MORE an ad before the first movement even ends.
Imagine somebody jumping onstage right after the cadenza and screaming,” EAT AT JOE’S!”
And then dashing off stage while the movement ends...idiots.
chill m8
You don't get ads if you subscribe. It's your choice.
@@fineartsstringshouston3983 ummm... yes you do. you can still get ads after you subscribe. thats the way the content creator makes money. from ads.
@@orin4654 Sorry, I meant subscribe to RUclips Premium, not the channel.
@Steve Meikle yesss this is the best way.
One of my favourite violin concertos. So soothing to our ears. Lovely..
The first movement is so well composed.....has a different feeling.🌱🍂🍁🌿
Historically Informed Performance - Pitch:
Modern performances of 'baroque' music on 'original' instruments are usually played at A-415, although there was no standard pitch in 17th & 18th century Europe. A-392, A-409, and higher pitches were used in France, depending on the date and type of music. Handel's tuning fork (London, 1751) is A-422.5. By 1769 (the date of this Haydn violin concerto) the pitch in Esterhazy was likely A-420-422. In 1780, in nearby Vienna, Mozart's piano maker, Stein, used an A-421.6 tuning fork. In 1789, the Viennese woodwind maker, Frederich Lempp, advertised his instruments at A-430 - the pitch typically used for modern performances of 'classical' music on 'original' instruments. Musical pitch continued to rise, until by 1930's A-440 had become an informal standard in Europe & US, although symphony orchestra now often tune to A-441-445.
Richard Webb
Academy of Ancient Music (retired)
Io credo che per gustare questa musica bisogna essere in pace con se stessi col prossimo e con Dio.Non posso mai pensare che un delinquente si mettare a sentire queste armonie che richiamano a mondi di letizia di pace di bontà celestiale.E mi chiedo dove siamo arrivati a far musica oggi..
Carmelo Bonifacio Malandrino si si
Concordo, la musica attuale e` offensiva e musicalmente errata.
Very underrated piece. So many unusual surprises along the way.
Haydn’s three extant violin concertos (one is lost) are not his greatest works though they are lovely to listen to; the C major is by some distance the best, this G major one is technically the easiest meaning that it is almost certainly pre-1761 and his Eszterhazy appointment, the A major is possibly an Eszterhazy work written for the fine 1st violin leader Luigi Tomasini and I would rate it between the other two.
Compared to the contemporary symphonies and early divertimenti a quattro (string quartets), Haydn’s early concertos are some of his most ordinary works.
History and Haydn go together like...like....well...like Haydn and History! Love them equally. Now study hard all of you beautiful music lovers. I am!
I knew all about Joseph Haydn even studying the classical era in which he wrote much of his famous works but for some reason never listened to anything he had written. I mean they said he was a genius wrote over 100 symphonies and the princes own personal composer yet I still never thought of listing to some of his works. Anyway I'm glad I found this it is really beautiful. Thanks.
Ya, I know what you mean about Haydn, He's so famous/well documented, & he has so much music, but for some reason, I barely every listen to him. I personally, find his music to be "Boring", & I think it has to do with the fact that its SO correct & perfect. I understand that he's one of the great's, & that it's also likely that my musical intelligence is not high enough to enjoy him the way others do. I generally listen to Bach, Scarlatti, Monteverdi, Fux, Paganini, & Mendelssohn, etc., but I know that list will grow to include all the greats, including Haydn, once I understand them & appreciate them.
If you liked this then listen to Hadyn's cello concertos, they are magical.
As a cellist, that's why Haydn is my favorite composer :)
You know more informatinon?I dat yes so please shot up
Excuse me?
Haydn y la armonía que promueve su partitura...esos violines tan límpidos en su sonido...qué belleza.
09:48 The joy and passion Haydn brought there is unbelievable.
What a joy of listening to this piece! Thank you for posting!
loooooooooool
so beautiful i literally cant wait to perfect it
Lol imagine if one of them forgot to tune to baroque
How are there so many commenters who can tell that it’s a half step low but don’t even know what baroque tuning is? It makes me feel bad for not having perfect pitch
1:14-2:24 solopt1
3:06-4:24 solo pt2
4:56-7:03? solo pt3
I’m playing for my all-region solo. It’s a wonderful piece, but I don’t know if I’ll be able to play it all (and well) by my audition. I feel so old playing this because I’ll be 15 during the audition! Most people who play this are like 10! I’ll give this my best shot though!
Bithania Andemariam no, it’s for AMEA Arizona.
Same! This is my first time learning this piece and I'm the same age as you! I feel kind of behind honestly😅
How did it go?
@@aureliebeckers2626 i didn’t make regionals last year (literally 3 chairs away) but i made it this last year! and turns out, the solo is for all state, rip. so next year i think i’ll go for state!
I am 15 now and gonna learn pieces like that because my technique is not good and I want to know more about classic
I don't know why, but I became interested in playing violin only after I finished musical school)
this is my district orchestra audition piece for this year. this is gorgeous; whether districts happens or not, definitely learning this!
Hey this is my district piece too! They say that they will do it on zoom, I hope we can beat this together :)
Aika Voo ayyy good luck to you!! i still have no idea what districts for me is doing. i don't even know if i'm going to be able to audition but i hope so!
@@andreapaige486 Oops sorry they are doing it at Parkland High.
@@andreapaige486 My bad🤦🏻♀️
Aika Voo oh shit are you in pa too? dope!
8:57 Adagio
13:45 Allegro
덕분에 연주하는데 큰 도움을 얻었어요. 감사합니다!
뭐? 나는 한국은 그렇게 잘 할수 없다요. 감사합니다 아는데, 다른것들 몰라요.
great video! It really helped me play! I'm doing it in a recital tomorrow!
How was the recital?
really wished i hadn't listened to this version first- now playing it at A-440 sounds wrong/less beautiful. i still love learning this piece and i look forward to the idea of mastering it.
Yeah I know right! I needed help with the counting and after listening to it I played, and the sound was totally different. I was waiting for this comment 😂
Oh no I’ve latched onto a lower tone again? Crap I always do this and sabotage myself
09:53 to 10:02 sounds a bit similar to some part from Mozart'S Piano Concerto no.21 Andante..... both are beautiful :D
edit : 09:54* to be exact
lol good ear.
Not surprising that Mozart would borrow from his mentor.
Beautiful
Oh, gotta love baroque tuning. Takes a while to get used to :/
It isn't baroque at all...
Jérémie L'Hostis Baroque tuning means that A was tuned to 415 Hz, as opposed to the 440 Hz that we're used to today. In other words, the whole song was lowered by half a step, and it just sounds strange to me.
+Tim Luo I knew something sounded more than just a bit off...
nowadays we say: baroquetuning: 415 hz, modern tuning: 440 hz. But there always were many tunings. In the time of haydn the tuning was probably 420-430 hz.
NO NOTHING TO LOVE ABOUT IT
This was the last concert I played with my violin teacher before stopping. I honestly, should play again and learn it, it's a beautiful piece...
Fun fact : every note is wrong regarding the sheet , because instead of beginning by a G , it begins by a F#.
magnifico concerto!!! delicato e fresco!!! E' un piacere ascoltarlo.
8:55 Adagio - Second Movement
Who's cadenza was being played in the first movement?
Is it possible that you played it one note lower than it really is? O.o
Baroque tuning typically uses 415 hz instead of 440.
I play this song and it is also my favorite part to play and to listen!!! :)
This is not a song, but a piece.
Do you happen to know who the violinist is that is playing the piece?
The info box says it's Simon Standage
Is it just me or does the cadenza playing not match the displayed sheet music?
( I mean gorgeous playing, buuuut)
Haven't checked, but if you think so, you are probably right.
Cadenzas typically vary a lot, sometimes with every soloists interpretation or even with each performance.
To find the exactly correct version among published/printed sheet music can often be quite difficult or even impossible, if it has not been published...
The Musical Nerd Show yeah, you‘re right! There are a lot of different cadenzas, the one i‘m playing is different than the written one and the played one. In all the RUclips concertos, i found ONE playing the same cadenza as me😂
I play a handwritten cadenza, arranged by my teacher and their friend in the 80s😅
Thanks for posting this beautiful music.
Très belle interprétation
Dónde puedo obtener esa versión en pdf? Me cuesta encontrarla
I hear very well the sound of old instruments and the pitch around 415-425 Hz but who is performing?
With orchestra this piece sounds a bit diffrent from just the solo parts. I think I should go an practising.
Thanks for putting this online^^
the tuning of baroque instruments is slightly lower, whilst modern violinists tune to an A at 440 hertz baroque violinists tune to A at roughly 415hz so its slightly flatter
Slightly... I'd say a lot! I can't play it now because I listened to it so many times and this tuning is just stuck in my head!! Everything I play is out of tune and sounds horrible, I hate myself
Yes, I have to play this.... OMG IM DYING
Hi!, someone knows wich edition have the same cadenzza of first movement?
ruclips.net/video/rYGwnxujMAE/видео.html
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@@milicaurovic9605 thanks kitty😘
The Breitkopf & Haertel edition is rather over-marked-up isn't it, cluttered up with far too many editorial markings (a lot of which don't make much sense). I'd recommend the Henle edition.
Hi I want to congratulate you for the excellent video! This concert is very beautiful! And I want to ask you a favor, you could spend the cadence of the first movement of this video? It is very cute and I do not get anywhere, I need it because I'm studying. Thank you.
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I CAN SEND YOU THE SHEET BY EMAIL, IF STILL YOU WANT IT.
transcribe
I need this cadenza too
Why is this recording played a half-step lower than what it is? It's supposed to be in G major but this recording is in G flat even though the music is in G
It's baroque tuning. They tuned to 415Hz which is a half step lower than our tuning nowadays (which is 440Hz)
Perfect pitch problems 🤔😂
@@deborahkliewer1418 no. The problem is that people nowadays are habituated to modern pitch. ;)
Alguien me puede explicar porque después de largue no suena igual que en la partitura, que pasa ahí?
The cadenza is not the same as the sheet
Ernando Oliveira Ribeiro that s because Haydn didn't write a cadenza himself and so there are lots of different cadenzas
The second mov. starts at: 07:50
이 곡 든고 많은 도움 받았어요
Very helpful. thank you.
Cadențele cântate la partea I și II nu sunt cele din partitură !
멋지담.wow!!!!~~
Who is playing ?
Ahhh, Beautiful!
bellissimo concerto, eseguito molto bene
It's very good
Why is everything a half step lower?? It’s rly bothering me lol
bbrryyssoonnn bbrryyssoonnn because it is in baroque tuning
Which is appropriate for this piece since Haydn composer in the baroque era
James Ngo Haydn lived from 1732-1809... pretty sure he was a classical era composer. Perhaps during the earlier stages of his life, baroque tuning was used?
Haydn was a Classical Era composer. He's literally the definition of Classical Genre (along with Mozart, but Haydn came first).
They're probably using A = 423. That's the tuning that was used at the time of Mozart and Haydn
1 : 14 violin solo start>
why does the recording sound like it's in F#/Gb major it's supposed to be G major
baroque tuning
@Philip Kasimir well I've had a history with music since age 5. I just don't know a lot of music theory or terminology. I can play well and I even sometimes compose music of my own.
Baroque tuning as said, 415 Hz
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Could I get the solo PDF by any chance?
imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/c/c3/IMSLP420562-PMLP72042-Haydn_Violin_Concerto_in_Sol_-_Violino_Principale.pdf
@@HenriVieuxtemps Thank you so much!
Hi, can someone please tell me where can I found the parts with this cadenza? the cadenza played
In the solos for young violinists volume 4
Well, has anyone noticed that the last note of bar 10 is played D# ?
Yep.... must of been an unwritten accidental or something or just a careless mistake
Sources of this concerto are a bit sketchy, according to Henle, so it could be missing from the score. I certainly don't think it's an inadvertent error on the part of the players, and I think D# works very well (it's harmonically fine). I only commented because I've performed this work, and so it jumped out, as a rather nice surprise.
I think that concert listen in D# because before to 1953 the musicians tuned in 432 is for that reason the music listens in other tonality for us
SO. COOL.
WHY DOESNT IT SOUND THIS GOOD WHEN I PLAY IT 😠
I just got the piece today........ uh oh......
Do you have the violin sheet of the Violin Concerto in C major by Haydn?? please?
Check IMSLP. They have A LOT of Haydn music... all for free!
Just buy the book
There is lots of problems with the free sheet music cuz of copywrite
Where can I find the cadenza?
sooo amazing
cadenzas are supposed to be different.
Cadenzas can be whatever the performer chooses. One cadenza is not "correct".
I sing this concert
Qui est le soliste ? et l'orchestre ? merci
esta música es hermosa y universal
pretty cool :D
sooo it says g but its not actually in g whats that about?
Annie Wray I think it was written in the Baroque period and baroque tuning is 1 half step lower than normal tuning.
@@kevinzhang6471 classical*
@@kevinzhang6471
It's played in 415Hz. Yeah, a semi tone lower.
why is it a half/step down?
If you’re talking about the intonation sometimes baroque orchestras tune lower
I practise this piece. But i dont Play so good
No consigo la partitura
tante grazie HV.
I love this course! When's the final?
1:13 3:05
Anyone notice that a lot of the music is played different than some of the sheet music. It really threw me off
Tyler Randall I know I’m late from the time you posted this comment. It’s likely a different arrangement and even if it wasn’t, the soloist and ensemble can make decisions to interpret it differently than what’s on the page. :) music isn’t always what’s on the page in front of you, it’s about the ensemble and the creativity and the interpretation.
1:14
2:10
is this in a different key?
Yes it is sadly
grazie!!!
1:32 Star Wars theme (the triplets)
Solo at 1:14
1:14
3:06
4:56
6:29
7:02
12:17
12:31
for the cadenzas
Where can I got the music for this???? I need it for my NYSSMA solo this year. I'm desperate! T^T
its in the solos for young violinists volume 4
you probably want to use other sources... not solos. The cadenza in that book might be way too short and easy.
arn't the small noted for the piano?
or orchestra yes
Why is it played is Fa -between ♮ and #- M ? (I have the absolute ear)
Cuz baroque tuning
Wow
Weird thing just happened, i changed video and automaticly disliked the video?!
WHAT
Of course already changed to like once again
👍🏻
14:26
This music is not the same pitch as the audio🤨🤨
Horst Kretschmer it’s baroque tuning. :)
8:55 ♥
15:05