Is it fair to say that the ‘exclusive' voices of the GP 510 could be found on many much less expensive keyboards. I have owned a GP 300 for almost three years. It also has several additional voices. In reality I bought it for the action. It gets played most days virtually exclusively on the Hamburg Grand setting.
It makes more sense to order the GP 310 and run the midi to a computer to play a quality VST with studio monitors. The cost might even be less. There might be some funds left over for other VST software, like Ableton Live 12!
Are you used to play on acoustic pianos? How does the action of GP310 feel? How about the sound? Do you get that "immersion" that an acoustic offers? Do you feel that vibration?
@@cyrocicco yes I played a lot of acoustic pianos and the key action of the GP-310 is really convincing. In my opinion even better than some of the acoustic pianos I played and not much worse than a high quality, expensive grand piano! So it's a lot of fun, although the sound is of course not as good as on a real acoustic piano. If I'm comparing a real grand piano to the GP-310, the real one does sound better, especially in the lows, which is not a surprise. However, the GP-310 is still really fun to play and of course doesn't compete with 100k+ Grand Pianos, but it's indeed a better experience than some older uprights I played. And please don't forget the price! For the price, it's amazing and I am still happy after 4 months now. Try it yourself and you will see :)
What is the life expectancy for a digital piano? Depending on the original cost of the piano and the cost of repair, is it worth while to do the repair? Do they hold their value if you want to upgrade? Are there any known problems that occur after five years of use? Should we look at a digital piano as a diminishing asset like an automobile? I’m trying to assess if it’s better for a starting young student to spend the equivalent money on an acoustic vs. a digital instrument. Thanks.
"What is the life expectancy for a digital piano?" Who knows. It might work fine for 10...20 years or something might break or just wear out. Wear will affect the playing experience if e.g. the keys get noisy or the key bottoming gets harder. "Depending on the original cost of the piano and the cost of repair, is it worth while to do the repair?" At some point an expensive repair might cost too much to really make sense if the piano is already old and obsolete. "Do they hold their value if you want to upgrade?" No! :) "Are there any known problems that occur after five years of use?" Things might get noisy and a bit loose compared to a brand new unit. White keys with "ivory feel" may show some wear. And after five years there are newer and better digital pianos available so you may feel the urge to get something better because yours is "old and obsolete" even if there's really nothing wrong with it. "Should we look at a digital piano as a diminishing asset like an automobile?" Yes! :) "I’m trying to assess if it’s better for a starting young student to spend the equivalent money on an acoustic vs. a digital instrument." If the money gets you a really bad acoustic then maybe it's not a great option. And there's going to be some maintenance cost like tuning once or twice a year. By default a digital piano won't really need any maintenance but it's possible that something breaks or wears out after the warranty period. But an acoustic IS a real piano. Digital pianos just emulate a one and some succeed better than others in that. An acoustic piano will hold it's value much better if you take care of it.
I would say 20 years for electronic instrument is reasonable to expect, but electronics can fail any time. And when they fail customer usually has no idea what failed.
my yamaha rx 5 drum machine from the 80's still works as good as when it came out.... so as far as the electronics.. i'd say 40+ years.... keys... maybe also 40 or 50 years
My previous digital piano only lasted 6 years before I had to update it as the action needed yearly servicing. Modern realistic wooden digital pianos actions only seem to last a fraction of the time of older plastic digital actions. Meanwhile my acoustic piano always seems to be trouble free.
I wonder how could I find out what's the actual touch weight of the middle C in the Casio GP510 and in the Yamaha CLP775. What is the actual grams that will push down the middle C in these pianos? I know the Yamaha is heavy touch and the Casio light touch, but by how much?
On the pianoworld forum, someone claimed to have measured that and the keys came down between 60g in the bass and 40g in the treble, with 50 or 51g at middle c.
Yes. I personally want the most realistic piano field and at the price Casio is the best. There is one problem with Casio, they don’t hold their value like Yamaha
@@IcejjfishTbone these two models may be a game changer if people feel they are a good value for the price. If you are constantly wanting to move up the ladder then it wouldn’t be the best investment and when you seek your Casio the next person will get a bargain.
Hi, I am unable to decide between KDP 110 and Rp 501r/ 302, (and may be Yamaha ydp 164) . Frankly the Roland sound is not at all pleasing to me. I love the kawai timber. But Roland has escapement in its action and few other features. Should I be choosing Action over sound?? Need your valuable suggestions on this. My usage is mainly for contemporary, classical, jazz pieces and most importantly for songwriting and vocal accompaniment. Hoping to receive a reply.
Which did you choose? I would have chosen the YDP-164. The action and sound are very pleasing to me. The speakers are loud enough for a big band rehearsal.
))! Это как спрашивать, а как вы считаете, мне надо жениться (выйти замуж) на этом или лучше на том, а то этот мне этот не нравится, но все говорят, что у него лучше действие)))). Рассмешили, пардон)).
I am orientating and this video is really helpful.
Thanks for the serious approach and good sound quality of the video itself.
Is it fair to say that the ‘exclusive' voices of the GP 510 could be found on many much less expensive keyboards. I have owned a GP 300 for almost three years. It also has several additional voices. In reality I bought it for the action. It gets played most days virtually exclusively on the Hamburg Grand setting.
i bought a GP300 in outlet and is amazing for the price
@@cristiandone5749I also bought a used gp300 in Brazil for R$8,000 equivalent to 1,600 dollars in direct conversion. I'm amazed.
It makes more sense to order the GP 310 and run the midi to a computer to play a quality VST with studio monitors. The cost might even be less. There might be some funds left over for other VST software, like Ableton Live 12!
Bought a GP-310 and love it!
Can you please upload a video of gp 310
Are you used to play on acoustic pianos? How does the action of GP310 feel? How about the sound? Do you get that "immersion" that an acoustic offers? Do you feel that vibration?
@@niteshsarkar I don't think this would be really helpful. There's enough stuff online already and finally you have to decide by yourself :)
@@cyrocicco yes I played a lot of acoustic pianos and the key action of the GP-310 is really convincing. In my opinion even better than some of the acoustic pianos I played and not much worse than a high quality, expensive grand piano! So it's a lot of fun, although the sound is of course not as good as on a real acoustic piano. If I'm comparing a real grand piano to the GP-310, the real one does sound better, especially in the lows, which is not a surprise. However, the GP-310 is still really fun to play and of course doesn't compete with 100k+ Grand Pianos, but it's indeed a better experience than some older uprights I played. And please don't forget the price! For the price, it's amazing and I am still happy after 4 months now. Try it yourself and you will see :)
@@diesdasananas69 very good! Thanks for the input!
What is the life expectancy for a digital piano? Depending on the original cost of the piano and the cost of repair, is it worth while to do the repair? Do they hold their value if you want to upgrade? Are there any known problems that occur after five years of use? Should we look at a digital piano as a diminishing asset like an automobile? I’m trying to assess if it’s better for a starting young student to spend the equivalent money on an acoustic vs. a digital instrument. Thanks.
"What is the life expectancy for a digital piano?"
Who knows. It might work fine for 10...20 years or something might break or just wear out. Wear will affect the playing experience if e.g. the keys get noisy or the key bottoming gets harder.
"Depending on the original cost of the piano and the cost of repair, is it worth while to do the repair?"
At some point an expensive repair might cost too much to really make sense if the piano is already old and obsolete.
"Do they hold their value if you want to upgrade?"
No! :)
"Are there any known problems that occur after five years of use?"
Things might get noisy and a bit loose compared to a brand new unit. White keys with "ivory feel" may show some wear. And after five years there are newer and better digital pianos available so you may feel the urge to get something better because yours is "old and obsolete" even if there's really nothing wrong with it.
"Should we look at a digital piano as a diminishing asset like an automobile?"
Yes! :)
"I’m trying to assess if it’s better for a starting young student to spend the equivalent money on an acoustic vs. a digital instrument."
If the money gets you a really bad acoustic then maybe it's not a great option. And there's going to be some maintenance cost like tuning once or twice a year. By default a digital piano won't really need any maintenance but it's possible that something breaks or wears out after the warranty period.
But an acoustic IS a real piano. Digital pianos just emulate a one and some succeed better than others in that. An acoustic piano will hold it's value much better if you take care of it.
I would say 20 years for electronic instrument is reasonable to expect, but electronics can fail any time. And when they fail customer usually has no idea what failed.
@@clothearednincompoop thanks so much for taking the time to answer all my questions. Using headphones is a big advantage.
my yamaha rx 5 drum machine from the 80's still works as good as when it came out....
so as far as the electronics.. i'd say 40+ years.... keys... maybe also 40 or 50 years
My previous digital piano only lasted 6 years before I had to update it as the action needed yearly servicing. Modern realistic wooden digital pianos actions only seem to last a fraction of the time of older plastic digital actions. Meanwhile my acoustic piano always seems to be trouble free.
Thanks for review. Is it possible to find the weight of action by itself? I mean was it too heavy to lift the action and put it on legs?
I’ve seen some places mention a ‘hardware resonator’ that is exclusive to the 510, what is this?
I wonder how could I find out what's the actual touch weight of the middle C in the Casio GP510 and in the Yamaha CLP775. What is the actual grams that will push down the middle C in these pianos? I know the Yamaha is heavy touch and the Casio light touch, but by how much?
On the pianoworld forum, someone claimed to have measured that and the keys came down between 60g in the bass and 40g in the treble, with 50 or 51g at middle c.
A good comparison would be comparable cost Yamaha and Kawai instruments to these.
Yes. I personally want the most realistic piano field and at the price Casio is the best. There is one problem with Casio, they don’t hold their value like Yamaha
@@IcejjfishTbone these two models may be a game changer if people feel they are a good value for the price. If you are constantly wanting to move up the ladder then it wouldn’t be the best investment and when you seek your Casio the next person will get a bargain.
Hi, I am unable to decide between KDP 110 and Rp 501r/ 302, (and may be Yamaha ydp 164) . Frankly the Roland sound is not at all pleasing to me. I love the kawai timber. But Roland has escapement in its action and few other features. Should I be choosing Action over sound?? Need your valuable suggestions on this. My usage is mainly for contemporary, classical, jazz pieces and most importantly for songwriting and vocal accompaniment. Hoping to receive a reply.
Which did you choose? I would have chosen the YDP-164. The action and sound are very pleasing to me. The speakers are loud enough for a big band rehearsal.
@@Zoco101 how much difference ydp184 and ydp 164 have ? Did you find out ?
))! Это как спрашивать, а как вы считаете, мне надо жениться (выйти замуж) на этом или лучше на том, а то этот мне этот не нравится, но все говорят, что у него лучше действие)))). Рассмешили, пардон)).
Can you review Casio Ap 270 Plsss
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Wonderful!!!
Hi do the Cassio's have a key cover at all? (E.g. fold down or pull out)
Yes they do! It's a combination of pull out and fold actually (at least for the GP-310, which I own), quite cool in my opinion
Qualcuno sa dirmi le differenze tra gp510 e gp310?