For those that don’t know, the “Berlin” piano is a Bechstein piano sample. The “Hamburg” piano is a Hamburg Steinway piano sample. And the “Vienna” piano is a Bösendorfer piano sample.
Great review, and great jazz playing! Thanks for sharing. The Hamburg is also my favorite sound on the GP 510. The Berlin records well, but i dont like practicing with it on a regular basis.
great review ! I remember trying out the gp500 at a piano store once and I was so captivated by the sound and shocked by the fact it was a casio. I remember thinking to myself it was (almost) completely believable but there was something in the sound that made me feel it was still synthetic, although I couldn't put my finger on it. overall it was a beautiful instrument, so I imagine the 510 would be even better.
Sounds great! I love their CELVIANOs. Want to buy this but can’t find a showroom here in nyc that has it on display. Not buying a 6k piano without feeling it out.
Many thanks for the review, convinced if I buy the GP 510 it will be ok; also tried it in the showroom and a bit disappointed, because touch and sound were not in balance.
Thanks for this review! I just purchased the GP-310 to replace my old Kawai MP11SE. The GP-310 has the same action as the GP-510. One thing I noticed is that the keys make a fairly loud thud sound when they hit the bottom of the key bed. Does yours do this as well? When I'm playing softly, even with earphones on, I can hear it. When you start to play louder, the sound of the piano covers it up. I was a bit surprised that the keyboard was this loud considering all the great reviews of the action. Other than this issue, I love the instrument. I use it as a VST controller and it works great for that.
Hi Alex, I report back with the following findings (one year later).The GP keyboard is fantastic and has a high resolution. The sound and the piano sounds are good. With the following tricks, the setup can be significantly upgraded. 1. I use two iLoud Micro speakers in addition to the GP's internal amplification: fantastic! 2. Recently, I installed Pianoteq 8 with the Bechstein grand piano on my Surface Pro: Incredible. I play the Pianoteq sounds with the GP Bechstein keyboard through the GP 510 and iLoud speakers. you can‘t beat the playability and sound quality of this setup… or you afford the real thing 😊! All the best
@@raneksi Hi. The surface is connected to a Motu M2. The outputs of the M2 are connected to the line inputs of the GP510. The line outputs of the GP510 with the inputs of the iLouds.
@@marcschaffroth3448 Thank you. And presumably regular MIDI connection from the GP510 to Surface? edit: Oh wait, Motu M2 has MIDI input so from GP510 to Motu M2?
I have purchased GP510 a couple of months. Now in the Vienna mode some notes (A4, Bb4, C4) produce noise. It’s not clear sound but there is some trembling noise on top of the sound. Any idea if this can be fixed or should I contact Casio?
Nice review.... how do you find the physical touch / responsiveness of the GP510 compared to an acoustic piano? I'm debating whether to go the rout of a GP510 or a Yamaha U1/3/5.
@Working Man thanks for replying. In Australia the RRP of the GP510 and LX708 is the same. I’ll have to go and play in store - hopefully both will be there to compare.
Hello Nino! Working Man has answered better than I ever could... I love the action on the GP 510, better than the average upright acoustic pianos. I haven't played an acoustic gran piano recently, but if I try to remember my feelings playing one, I'd say that possibly the Casio feels a tiny bit more plasticky (hardly a scientific statement as you can see... :)) I agree 100% with working man: it's a great compromise at the price, and for me - I'm not a technical guy - it's all about what I feel while I'm playing. And to me the GP 510 is far more fun and inspiring to play than more expensive pianos.
Sounds nothing like a real piano terribly skinny and digital I bought a 400 and can’t wait to sell it maybe try a novus or an acoustic I’d let mine go for 1500
Thanks Alex for the great review and piano music (remembers me to the the beauty and melancholy of Enrico Rava tunes)! During my test in the music shop, I was particularly impressed and convinced by the keyboard action of the GP-510 with its very precise balanced dynamic expression and subtleties in touch control from ppp to fff - in my opinion much better realized than on the Kawai CA-99 and the Yamaha CLP-785 (both are great pianos!). However, I‘ve noticed that with hold and long decaying chords, the resonances begin to resonate somewhat unnaturally ("out of tune") over time. Did you noticed a similar effect with your GP-510?
Thank you Marc for your kind words ☺️ I hadn't noticed that problem before, but now that I've tried it after you mentioned it, I must say that I've noticed it slightly... It doesn't bother me too much but yes, it's there.
@@alpao74 Hi Alex, I’ve tried again to reproduce the strange sound behaviour with hold and long decaying notes in the music shop. This time I‘ve noticed a far less tone colourating effect. I think it depends on the right settings in the Acoustic Simulator. Anyway, I have now ordered the GP-510: The keyboard expression is fantastic (for a Digital Piano).
Is it more difficult to play advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos if you practice it mainly or only on this GP510? Is the touch weight too lighter than acoustic grand pianos?
No it isn't. Except for the escapement which the GP-series does not have, the experience of playing these Casio Hybrids is 95% the touch of a grand piano. What people may not realize is that CASIO has done something quite remarkable with these pianos by using the SAME keyboard as you would get if you bought an actual Bechstein Grand Piano. Same wood, same covering of the keys, same length etc which to me makes the GP the very best in hybrid piano touch you can possibly get. Soundwise its not 100 % like a grand (I mean how could it be, right?) but what matters the most is the feel of the keys and here CASIO has reached perfection and a level far above what Kawai or Yamaha has ever done.
@@cookingconfessions @cookingconfessions hello, thanks for your reply. I'm currently playing regularly a casio GP310 in a library. I like it very much. Though the sound without headphone isn't very nice. But it's not correct partially what you're stating. It's not a real hybrid. Real Digital hybrid pianos have the same mechanic of an acoustic as the Yamaha avantgrand for example. And the 510 has not the same acoustic mechanic. This is not my opinion. You can verify it seeing the model of a piece of the mechanic of the Casio GP and any other real hybrid digital piano. The hybrid part is because of the real (but not wooden) hammers that they follow the same path motion of an acoustic grand piano, and the same Austrian spruce of the keys as the Bechstein, and very long keys (not as long as the grand piano. The gp is around 16cm, a grand is around 20-22cm). That said, the GP510 is still very nice action. For example I played and compared it the kawai novus 10, which is indeed a real hybrid digital piano, but although has a quite nice sound, the action didn't convince me, it's still spongy, and too light. And not very firm for that price. About the GP510, I'm not very confident that if you prepare an advanced classical music graduate diploma exam on it, without practising on acoustic grand p., you won't have any problems to perform it on the acoustic grand pianos at the recital diploma exam. Before you replied I wrote to the Casio, the Italian and the UK customer service. They all replied me that in order to be prepared you need to complement the practice on the acoustic pianos too. For example one of my concern is: yes I know it doesn't have any simulation of escarpment, and that's not bad. But it has a faster speed repetition than acoustic grand pianos. And I don't know if this might make it easier to play advanced classical music diploma répertoire on the Casio GP and more difficult to perform it on the acoustic grand pianos. I had full access to practice rooms with the best acoustic upright, baby and full magnificent acoustic grand pianos at the college). Now I wish to take an external advanced classical music diploma recital exam of only performance, not easy to pass. But I don't have access any longer to the practice rooms. And I'm upset because for neighbours, space and budget, I can't afford any acoustic of more expensive than the gp digital pianos. And the doubts didn't me allow to buy the GP510 yet. I could afford only few hours of practice to studios with good acoustic grand pianos. And if it's required many hours of that practice it's a problem. Also when practicing at the library on the GP310, I'm using the heaviest touch response, set at heavy 2, as was told that even that is lighter than most acoustic concert grand pianos. I don't know what to think and do 😔 Apologise for my long comment
When you choose a digital instrument you compromise - Plain and simple! There is no two ways about it. No digital piano in the world can 100% replicate the sound of a real acoustic grand. The feeling how ever can come pretty damm close. I have played on many grand pianos and also a few Steinway concert grand's and to me at least CASIO has done such an impressive job with the GPs. A partnership with Bechstein to me says it all. I only have the CASIO GP300 in my house and it has several flaws and weird quirks that I kind of wish CASIO had solved before pushing this product to market. I even understand from the reviews that the issue still persists in the 310 version where you still have the same hard to read and comically black and white poor pixel display. Hard to read labeling on the button pad and no way to hide buttons or nobs. The 510 can store sound settings, whereas the 310 can't which is a disgrace on Casio's part not to offer this on the all models. Compared to this Kawai has a full color touch screen on their CA series and Roland has best in class when it comes to elegantly hiding of the digital functionality. If you want a heavy touch, try the Yamaha CLP 785. I found this unbelievably heavy but the sound without and especially WITH headphones on Yamaha is next level. Its so impressive you can forget you are wearing them. Also keep in mind if you go for a true hybrid, those things requires maintenance at the same level as an acoustic instrument and which moment a silent piano would like the Yamaha U3 would be a better buy in my opinion. BUT all that being said I there is something magical about the GPs. They sound great both with and without headphones (Not as good as Yamaha, but still) You can tweak the sound. Adding opera hall, upping string resonance etc. But the touch and feel is so amazing to me and nearly (or just as good) as the true hybrids at 1/3 of the cost and far better than equally priced Kawai or Yamaha or Rolands.The missing escapement allows for even quicker repetition of notes, but for that to be even remotely relevant, you would be among the worlds best and most advanced pianists who would find themselves able to repeat notes quicker than a concert grand allows. When need a new piano at one moment I will get the GP510 or its updated version when that comes, but that is merely based on that I want the last bit of sound optimization and ability to store my setting plus it has a few more cool voices, but it also comes at a hefty premium over the 310. Good luck choosing your piano and your musical endevours. @@verymozart
@@cookingconfessions I wrote it in my comment, it's all about how much it impacts the performance of advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos at the exam if studied on the GP510 only. It's not about if I want an heavy touch or not, it's about to find out which digital within my budget has the most suitable action touch for my needs of advanced exam. How much complemented practice on acoustic grand is required? I don't care too much about the sound, (that without the headphone is not very nice the one of the gp 510/310). I care about the action, the touch. In order not to have problems when playing the repertoire of the exam on the acoustic grand at the exam. Also, I wrote my concern, being the speed repetition faster than acoustic grand pianos, if that makes it easier to play it on the gp 510 and harder on the acoustic grand. You stated on your first comment that it doesn't. But I'm not sure about it. I wrote I can't afford real hybrid not more expensive digital. And that's why I'm upset. The clp 785 is not so heavier than the gp, it's more expensive. I played it, I didn't like it very much, it doesn't have hammers also. The heavier of the clp is 775, but I don't like it very much either. I don't know. As I said maybe there's not within my budget a suitable digital for my needs of the exam. Or maybe the solution is the CASIO GP510 in case it doesn't require a too long time of complemented practice on the acoustic. Because I could afford few hours for the studios, but not too many hours.. I don't know. For sure in my search I don't know anyone who prepared and passed that exam on the Casio GP 510 only
Hello, I'm selling my GP-510. A potential customer asked me about whether or not a "beat box or rhythm box". He is looking forward to playing jazz and pop tunes. I told him I wasn't sure, but would check. Can a beatbox be added to this piano or connected in any way? Anyone know?
Hello, yes you can connect a beat box or different instruments in different ways. You can either connect the box to the line in input on the GP 510 or connect both of them to an external mixer or computer audio interface...
@@alpao74 Thanks for the response. At first, I wasn't sure what the guy was talking about. He's into Bossa Nova and I suppose he works with a beatbox. As you know the Hybrid has a lot of functions, but I wasn't sure that it had this particular one. I am strictly a player of classical, so my piano professor would faint if I pulled out one of those. But from what I understand, he can purchase an independent beatbox and connect via the routes you mention here? Do you know if he could also download a Beatbox app and connect it through a tablet or Ipad directly to the piano? I'd hate to see him lose out on purchasing this instrument for a simple question of a beatbox. At the same time, if he's looking for only that function, perhaps this is the wrong type of instrument for him. Would you agree? Thanks for your comments and time. I know very little about the extent of the capabilities of the instrument.
Thanks for being honest about this keyboard compared to a real acoustical piano, in my opinion this keyboard is excellent for jazz. Also the pipe organ would be good for church music. I kinda disagree about upright pianos they can be almost as good as a grand. If you get the big uprights like the concert grand type they have a very large soundboard. The action can be regulated to make the action faster for repeating notes. Now the feel cannot be duplicated onto an upright from the grand because the hammers strike differently. A good pianist can play either type of piano with no problems. 73
Thank you for the feedback Ron, you're right, a good upright piano will give a great playing experience. I haven't played one in a while actually, my conclusion was probably a hasty one 😊
@@alpao74 I'm into the old tall uprights. I had an H. P. Nelson and the piano was neglected for years on a closed in unheated part of the house. It was left on the farm my parents bought. We had one tuner that was blind and didn't want to tune it. Few months later we called the other tuner in the area and he said the piano is.not going to get any younger so he tuned the piano in one tuning. The piano was a whole step lower than A 440 but he detuned the strings to break the rust and brought it up to pitch. He also showed me how to glue the bridle straps because the original ones were all rotted. Later on mom let me get the key tops recovered with plastic key tops because the ivories we're missing. I tried to restore the piano but I did something that ruined the instrument I brought it to Florida and the summer heat ruined the instrument because it was put in an un air conditioned room and the moisture ruined the strings they started to snap all hours of the day and night .mainly the tenor strings. The soundboard was good as new and the ribs but rust and the tension did a number on the tenor and a few bass strings. I had a hard time finding dampers that would work on the bass and tenor strings. I decided to let the trash pickup take the instrument away. I should of had air conditioning in the closed in garage. But that part of the house was not finished. I do have another tall used to be player piano that would make a good project I think it only has one string broke and it's a wire string not a bass or tenor string. We have ac in our home where we live now at least the piano has better environment. That first piano sounded like a concert grand when tuned I'm thinking the one I have now will sound as good it has large bass strings as well. I myself like the old sound I grew up with it and it's here to.stay with me.
@@ronb6182 Thank you for sharing this wonderful story Ron!! It is a testament to your love for a good sounding piano and for music :) It is amazing how much the story of a music instrument - especially a piano - is intertwined with the story of our family life...
@@alpao74 there is a lot more to the story I could probably write a book. The best part I could play with a tape recorder because the pitches match. I tried to learn a Beethoven Sonata op14 number 2. I played it at my last recital the first movement. I sure miss my piano teacher she was the most patient music teacher I ever had. I was dyslexic and had problems sight reading. Also my timing was off I took rubato literally. I would rob beats all over the piece. In 1990 I got to see my piano teacher for the last time, she passed away a few years later. Life happened and right now trying to unlearn mistakes in pieces I played in the Jr high. Many were Chopin Waltzes. Chopin is very hard especially three against four Passages. Fantaisie-Impromptu is loaded with them passages.
1:25 ff Sorry, but i'm afraid that you have absolutely not the slightest clue how sensors in digital pianos usually work and the technology behind it.😮 There is no "hammers hit sensors instead of strings" or "sensors in the spot where usually the hammers hit the springs" 😉 Sensors in digital pianos don't measure how hard or soft they are hit. Digital pianos usually have 2 (or 3) sensors per key. So These sensors are pushed by some kind of a fixture (like pins) attached to the key. The trick is that the 2 sensors get pushed by that pins with a small time delay. So the dynamics is a result of the delay time between 2 sensors. The faster the key is pushed the shorter the delay time between 2 sensors gets. Shorter delay times result in a louder sound and longer delay times produce lower volume.
Putting that level of detail in a video like this is unnecessary. You just described is the mechanism by which digital pianos approximately measure how hard the key is pressed. Nothing wrong with using the words hard or soft. Also many digital pianos (like Kawai) have sensors that are activated by the weight (or simulated hammer). Not all are directly pressed by the key.
There is a detailed video about the action with the guy from Casio and I also understood it like the hammers are hitting the sensors ruclips.net/video/4G_cAZv6ccE/видео.html&ab_channel=BetterMusic
The harpsichord sound is unqualifiedly terrible. It sounds like a $100 synthesizer for kids. (Casio has never paid enough attention to the harpsichord in all their products. Roland or Yamaha have.)
For those that don’t know, the “Berlin” piano is a Bechstein piano sample. The “Hamburg” piano is a Hamburg Steinway piano sample. And the “Vienna” piano is a Bösendorfer piano sample.
Great review, and great jazz playing! Thanks for sharing.
The Hamburg is also my favorite sound on the GP 510. The Berlin records well, but i dont like practicing with it on a regular basis.
great review !
I remember trying out the gp500 at a piano store once and I was so captivated by the sound and shocked by the fact it was a casio. I remember thinking to myself it was (almost) completely believable but there was something in the sound that made me feel it was still synthetic, although I couldn't put my finger on it. overall it was a beautiful instrument, so I imagine the 510 would be even better.
Thank you Pablo ☺️
Brilliant playing and great review
Great video and was very informative ! Kelly
Thanks for an excellent review of an excellent piano and enjoy your instrument.
Thank you Carlos, I love it! Same for you, enjoy music wherever it takes you...
Sounds great! I love their CELVIANOs. Want to buy this but can’t find a showroom here in nyc that has it on display. Not buying a 6k piano without feeling it out.
Great video, thank you !
Great video!
I have not found something like this on you tube!
Thank you! I to mix informative and entertaining when I can 😀
@@alpao74 well done!
Thank you So much for this vidéo !
It’s great piano, i take this !
Amélie, from France 😊
The sound is quite sensationnal.
Many thanks for the review, convinced if I buy the GP 510 it will be ok; also tried it in the showroom and a bit disappointed, because touch and sound were not in balance.
Hey Tom... I agree with you: it's not a perfect simulation of a gran piano by any means, but certainly at that price it's one of the best for sure ☺️
Thanks for this review! I just purchased the GP-310 to replace my old Kawai MP11SE. The GP-310 has the same action as the GP-510. One thing I noticed is that the keys make a fairly loud thud sound when they hit the bottom of the key bed. Does yours do this as well? When I'm playing softly, even with earphones on, I can hear it. When you start to play louder, the sound of the piano covers it up. I was a bit surprised that the keyboard was this loud considering all the great reviews of the action. Other than this issue, I love the instrument. I use it as a VST controller and it works great for that.
Hi Alex, I report back with the following findings (one year later).The GP keyboard is fantastic and has a high resolution. The sound and the piano sounds are good. With the following tricks, the setup can be significantly upgraded. 1. I use two iLoud Micro speakers in addition to the GP's internal amplification: fantastic! 2. Recently, I installed Pianoteq 8 with the Bechstein grand piano on my Surface Pro: Incredible. I play the Pianoteq sounds with the GP Bechstein keyboard through the GP 510 and iLoud speakers. you can‘t beat the playability and sound quality of this setup… or you afford the real thing 😊! All the best
How can you play sounds from VST that runs on external device from piano speakers? What kind of setup does that need?
@@raneksi Hi. The surface is connected to a Motu M2. The outputs of the M2 are connected to the line inputs of the GP510. The line outputs of the GP510 with the inputs of the iLouds.
@@marcschaffroth3448 Thank you. And presumably regular MIDI connection from the GP510 to Surface?
edit: Oh wait, Motu M2 has MIDI input so from GP510 to Motu M2?
Any trouble with ground noise? It's reported a lot when using the Line In of the Casios.
Thanks for this review. I have just ordered the Casio GP-310 as it was a little cheaper.
How is it going ? 🙂
@@W-HealthPianoExercises what a great instrument. Enjoy playing it everyday. Music is gift from God
I have purchased GP510 a couple of months. Now in the Vienna mode some notes (A4, Bb4, C4) produce noise. It’s not clear sound but there is some trembling noise on top of the sound. Any idea if this can be fixed or should I contact Casio?
Nice review.... how do you find the physical touch / responsiveness of the GP510 compared to an acoustic piano? I'm debating whether to go the rout of a GP510 or a Yamaha U1/3/5.
@Working Man thanks for replying. In Australia the RRP of the GP510 and LX708 is the same. I’ll have to go and play in store - hopefully both will be there to compare.
Hello Nino! Working Man has answered better than I ever could... I love the action on the GP 510, better than the average upright acoustic pianos. I haven't played an acoustic gran piano recently, but if I try to remember my feelings playing one, I'd say that possibly the Casio feels a tiny bit more plasticky (hardly a scientific statement as you can see... :))
I agree 100% with working man: it's a great compromise at the price, and for me - I'm not a technical guy - it's all about what I feel while I'm playing. And to me the GP 510 is far more fun and inspiring to play than more expensive pianos.
Sounds nothing like a real piano terribly skinny and digital I bought a 400 and can’t wait to sell it maybe try a novus or an acoustic I’d let mine go for 1500
Thanks Alex for the great review and piano music (remembers me to the the beauty and melancholy of Enrico Rava tunes)! During my test in the music shop, I was particularly impressed and convinced by the keyboard action of the GP-510 with its very precise balanced dynamic expression and subtleties in touch control from ppp to fff - in my opinion much better realized than on the Kawai CA-99 and the Yamaha CLP-785 (both are great pianos!). However, I‘ve noticed that with hold and long decaying chords, the resonances begin to resonate somewhat unnaturally ("out of tune") over time. Did you noticed a similar effect with your GP-510?
Thank you Marc for your kind words ☺️
I hadn't noticed that problem before, but now that I've tried it after you mentioned it, I must say that I've noticed it slightly...
It doesn't bother me too much but yes, it's there.
@@alpao74 Hi Alex, I’ve tried again to reproduce the strange sound behaviour with hold and long decaying notes in the music shop. This time I‘ve noticed a far less tone colourating effect. I think it depends on the right settings in the Acoustic Simulator. Anyway, I have now ordered the GP-510: The keyboard expression is fantastic (for a Digital Piano).
@@marcschaffroth3448 Great choice Marc, you won't regret it ☺️
What are you using to record cause I have the same piano and mine doesn’t sound like that ?
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Is it more difficult to play advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos if you practice it mainly or only on this GP510? Is the touch weight too lighter than acoustic grand pianos?
No it isn't. Except for the escapement which the GP-series does not have, the experience of playing these Casio Hybrids is 95% the touch of a grand piano. What people may not realize is that CASIO has done something quite remarkable with these pianos by using the SAME keyboard as you would get if you bought an actual Bechstein Grand Piano. Same wood, same covering of the keys, same length etc which to me makes the GP the very best in hybrid piano touch you can possibly get. Soundwise its not 100 % like a grand (I mean how could it be, right?) but what matters the most is the feel of the keys and here CASIO has reached perfection and a level far above what Kawai or Yamaha has ever done.
@@cookingconfessions @cookingconfessions hello, thanks for your reply. I'm currently playing regularly a casio GP310 in a library. I like it very much. Though the sound without headphone isn't very nice. But it's not correct partially what you're stating. It's not a real hybrid. Real Digital hybrid pianos have the same mechanic of an acoustic as the Yamaha avantgrand for example. And the 510 has not the same acoustic mechanic. This is not my opinion. You can verify it seeing the model of a piece of the mechanic of the Casio GP and any other real hybrid digital piano. The hybrid part is because of the real (but not wooden) hammers that they follow the same path motion of an acoustic grand piano, and the same Austrian spruce of the keys as the Bechstein, and very long keys (not as long as the grand piano. The gp is around 16cm, a grand is around 20-22cm). That said, the GP510 is still very nice action. For example I played and compared it the kawai novus 10, which is indeed a real hybrid digital piano, but although has a quite nice sound, the action didn't convince me, it's still spongy, and too light. And not very firm for that price.
About the GP510, I'm not very confident that if you prepare an advanced classical music graduate diploma exam on it, without practising on acoustic grand p., you won't have any problems to perform it on the acoustic grand pianos at the recital diploma exam. Before you replied I wrote to the Casio, the Italian and the UK customer service. They all replied me that in order to be prepared you need to complement the practice on the acoustic pianos too. For example one of my concern is: yes I know it doesn't have any simulation of escarpment, and that's not bad. But it has a faster speed repetition than acoustic grand pianos. And I don't know if this might make it easier to play advanced classical music diploma répertoire on the Casio GP and more difficult to perform it on the acoustic grand pianos. I had full access to practice rooms with the best acoustic upright, baby and full magnificent acoustic grand pianos at the college). Now I wish to take an external advanced classical music diploma recital exam of only performance, not easy to pass. But I don't have access any longer to the practice rooms. And I'm upset because for neighbours, space and budget, I can't afford any acoustic of more expensive than the gp digital pianos. And the doubts didn't me allow to buy the GP510 yet. I could afford only few hours of practice to studios with good acoustic grand pianos. And if it's required many hours of that practice it's a problem. Also when practicing at the library on the GP310, I'm using the heaviest touch response, set at heavy 2, as was told that even that is lighter than most acoustic concert grand pianos. I don't know what to think and do 😔
Apologise for my long comment
When you choose a digital instrument you compromise - Plain and simple! There is no two ways about it. No digital piano in the world can 100% replicate the sound of a real acoustic grand. The feeling how ever can come pretty damm close. I have played on many grand pianos and also a few Steinway concert grand's and to me at least CASIO has done such an impressive job with the GPs. A partnership with Bechstein to me says it all. I only have the CASIO GP300 in my house and it has several flaws and weird quirks that I kind of wish CASIO had solved before pushing this product to market. I even understand from the reviews that the issue still persists in the 310 version where you still have the same hard to read and comically black and white poor pixel display. Hard to read labeling on the button pad and no way to hide buttons or nobs. The 510 can store sound settings, whereas the 310 can't which is a disgrace on Casio's part not to offer this on the all models. Compared to this Kawai has a full color touch screen on their CA series and Roland has best in class when it comes to elegantly hiding of the digital functionality. If you want a heavy touch, try the Yamaha CLP 785. I found this unbelievably heavy but the sound without and especially WITH headphones on Yamaha is next level. Its so impressive you can forget you are wearing them. Also keep in mind if you go for a true hybrid, those things requires maintenance at the same level as an acoustic instrument and which moment a silent piano would like the Yamaha U3 would be a better buy in my opinion. BUT all that being said I there is something magical about the GPs. They sound great both with and without headphones (Not as good as Yamaha, but still) You can tweak the sound. Adding opera hall, upping string resonance etc. But the touch and feel is so amazing to me and nearly (or just as good) as the true hybrids at 1/3 of the cost and far better than equally priced Kawai or Yamaha or Rolands.The missing escapement allows for even quicker repetition of notes, but for that to be even remotely relevant, you would be among the worlds best and most advanced pianists who would find themselves able to repeat notes quicker than a concert grand allows. When need a new piano at one moment I will get the GP510 or its updated version when that comes, but that is merely based on that I want the last bit of sound optimization and ability to store my setting plus it has a few more cool voices, but it also comes at a hefty premium over the 310. Good luck choosing your piano and your musical endevours. @@verymozart
@@cookingconfessions I wrote it in my comment, it's all about how much it impacts the performance of advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos at the exam
if studied on the GP510 only. It's not about if I want an heavy touch or not, it's about to find out which digital within my budget has the most suitable action touch for my needs of advanced exam. How much complemented practice on acoustic grand is required? I don't care too much about the sound, (that without the headphone is not very nice the one of the gp 510/310). I care about the action, the touch. In order not to have problems when playing the repertoire of the exam on the acoustic grand at the exam. Also, I wrote my concern, being the speed repetition faster than acoustic grand pianos, if that makes it easier to play it on the gp 510 and harder on the acoustic grand. You stated on your first comment that it doesn't. But I'm not sure about it. I wrote I can't afford real hybrid not more expensive digital. And that's why I'm upset. The clp 785 is not so heavier than the gp, it's more expensive. I played it, I didn't like it very much, it doesn't have hammers also. The heavier of the clp is 775, but I don't like it very much either. I don't know. As I said maybe there's not within my budget a suitable digital for my needs of the exam. Or maybe the solution is the CASIO GP510 in case it doesn't require a too long time of complemented practice on the acoustic. Because I could afford few hours for the studios, but not too many hours.. I don't know. For sure in my search I don't know anyone who prepared and passed that exam on the Casio GP 510 only
Hello, I'm selling my GP-510. A potential customer asked me about whether or not a "beat box or rhythm box". He is looking forward to playing jazz and pop tunes. I told him I wasn't sure, but would check. Can a beatbox be added to this piano or connected in any way? Anyone know?
Hello, yes you can connect a beat box or different instruments in different ways. You can either connect the box to the line in input on the GP 510 or connect both of them to an external mixer or computer audio interface...
@@alpao74 Thanks for the response. At first, I wasn't sure what the guy was talking about. He's into Bossa Nova and I suppose he works with a beatbox. As you know the Hybrid has a lot of functions, but I wasn't sure that it had this particular one. I am strictly a player of classical, so my piano professor would faint if I pulled out one of those. But from what I understand, he can purchase an independent beatbox and connect via the routes you mention here? Do you know if he could also download a Beatbox app and connect it through a tablet or Ipad directly to the piano? I'd hate to see him lose out on purchasing this instrument for a simple question of a beatbox. At the same time, if he's looking for only that function, perhaps this is the wrong type of instrument for him. Would you agree? Thanks for your comments and time. I know very little about the extent of the capabilities of the instrument.
Great action, too bad the timbre is too thin.
Thanks for being honest about this keyboard compared to a real acoustical piano, in my opinion this keyboard is excellent for jazz. Also the pipe organ would be good for church music. I kinda disagree about upright pianos they can be almost as good as a grand. If you get the big uprights like the concert grand type they have a very large soundboard. The action can be regulated to make the action faster for repeating notes. Now the feel cannot be duplicated onto an upright from the grand because the hammers strike differently. A good pianist can play either type of piano with no problems. 73
Thank you for the feedback Ron, you're right, a good upright piano will give a great playing experience. I haven't played one in a while actually, my conclusion was probably a hasty one 😊
@@alpao74 I'm into the old tall uprights. I had an H. P. Nelson and the piano was neglected for years on a closed in unheated part of the house. It was left on the farm my parents bought. We had one tuner that was blind and didn't want to tune it. Few months later we called the other tuner in the area and he said the piano is.not going to get any younger so he tuned the piano in one tuning. The piano was a whole step lower than A 440 but he detuned the strings to break the rust and brought it up to pitch. He also showed me how to glue the bridle straps because the original ones were all rotted. Later on mom let me get the key tops recovered with plastic key tops because the ivories we're missing. I tried to restore the piano but I did something that ruined the instrument I brought it to Florida and the summer heat ruined the instrument because it was put in an un air conditioned room and the moisture ruined the strings they started to snap all hours of the day and night
.mainly the tenor strings. The soundboard was good as new and the ribs but rust and the tension did a number on the tenor and a few bass strings. I had a hard time finding dampers that would work on the bass and tenor strings. I decided to let the trash pickup take the instrument away. I should of had air conditioning in the closed in garage. But that part of the house was not finished. I do have another tall used to be player piano that would make a good project I think it only has one string broke and it's a wire string not a bass or tenor string. We have ac in our home where we live now at least the piano has better environment. That first piano sounded like a concert grand when tuned I'm thinking the one I have now will sound as good it has large bass strings as well. I myself like the old sound I grew up with it and it's here to.stay with me.
@@ronb6182 Thank you for sharing this wonderful story Ron!! It is a testament to your love for a good sounding piano and for music :) It is amazing how much the story of a music instrument - especially a piano - is intertwined with the story of our family life...
@@alpao74 there is a lot more to the story I could probably write a book. The best part I could play with a tape recorder because the pitches match. I tried to learn a Beethoven Sonata op14 number 2. I played it at my last recital the first movement. I sure miss my piano teacher she was the most patient music teacher I ever had. I was dyslexic and had problems sight reading. Also my timing was off I took rubato literally. I would rob beats all over the piece. In 1990 I got to see my piano teacher for the last time, she passed away a few years later. Life happened and right now trying to unlearn mistakes in pieces I played in the Jr high. Many were Chopin Waltzes. Chopin is very hard especially three against four Passages. Fantaisie-Impromptu is loaded with them passages.
The problem is. They are hardish, and don't have any depth.. they sound very electronic..........
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Sorry, but i'm afraid that you have absolutely not the slightest clue how sensors in digital pianos usually work and the technology behind it.😮
There is no "hammers hit sensors instead of strings" or "sensors in the spot where usually the hammers hit the springs" 😉
Sensors in digital pianos don't measure how hard or soft they are hit.
Digital pianos usually have 2 (or 3) sensors per key.
So These sensors are pushed by some kind of a fixture (like pins) attached to the key.
The trick is that the 2 sensors get pushed by that pins with a small time delay.
So the dynamics is a result of the delay time between 2 sensors.
The faster the key is pushed the shorter the delay time between 2 sensors gets.
Shorter delay times result in a louder sound and longer delay times produce lower volume.
Putting that level of detail in a video like this is unnecessary. You just described is the mechanism by which digital pianos approximately measure how hard the key is pressed. Nothing wrong with using the words hard or soft. Also many digital pianos (like Kawai) have sensors that are activated by the weight (or simulated hammer). Not all are directly pressed by the key.
There is a detailed video about the action with the guy from Casio and I also understood it like the hammers are hitting the sensors
ruclips.net/video/4G_cAZv6ccE/видео.html&ab_channel=BetterMusic
“Gran” piano?
I guess I forgot the "d", right? I am terribly sorry 😭😭😭
The harpsichord sound is unqualifiedly terrible. It sounds like a $100 synthesizer for kids. (Casio has never paid enough attention to the harpsichord in all their products. Roland or Yamaha have.)
Yamaha, Roaland. You name it. They all sound terrible. If you care about it, use a VST.
Almost everything that’s non-piano sounds like a toy keyboard. Close, Casio, but not nearly close enough.