Excellent review that helped me with my decision to go with the GP-510 to replace my Yamaha P-120. I have found going into Settings > Effect > Brilliance, and changing it from the default of 0 to -1 or even -2 tames those tweeters, especially with the Berlin Grand's tendency to really sing starting about F#5. My great room is all hard surfaces so the piano sounds particularly bright at its factory defaults (so did the P-120, which had a brilliance slider as well). Additionally, you can set the Simulated Lid to CLOSED, but then leave the physical lid open. Your preferred acoustic settings can be saved as a Scene, and you can also turn off the option that always boots up the piano at defaults. By the way, the GP-510 has two hidden tweeters aimed towards the player's ears. Using a flashlight, you can see them behind the black cloth covering the "sound port" slot above the fall-board. There are two mid-range drivers aimed up hidden beneath the red felt under the lid, and of course, two massive woofers aimed down under the keyboard. For headphones, I'm finding the Philips SHP9600 are a great match. I have to check to make sure the piano speakers really are off, they are so convincing. My other piano is a rebuilt C. Bechstein grand (Model B), so the Casio is in good company.
I expect that, like me, many reviewers dart back and forth listening to the assorted patches with and without internal speakers. This can very tricky on a handheld device or on a TV, so if you miss the bit where Stu says "Here's the Hamburg" you're lost. It would be very helpful if those nice red captions (describing the audio source) mentioned the patch name too, and stayed on screen throughout that section of the video. PS The Hamburg starts around 14:09, in case anyone is looking for it. It switches to internal speakers around 14:46.
After listening to this video a second time I feel in regards to the collaboration between Casio and Bechstein that the Bechstein portion is nicer than the Casio portion. Ive had a GP-500 for two years and it's the action that I love much more than the sound through the speakers.
Rewatching this video, the thought comes to mind that if you have to play this piano in a band rehearsal, the extra treble you get by opening the lid might be advantageous. Nothing is worse than losing your treble/mid while you're trying to improvise an accompaniment in a modern music band, resulting in not hearing your voicings properly. My DP has a button which superimposes extra treble and effects for playing in a band. If I understand correctly, this piano has an almost complete grand action (in an upright shell) as opposed to the Kawai upright action on the NV5(S).
Thanks for the review. Always great information and great playing. I purchased a gp 510 earlier this year and am very happy that I did. I love the action and the sound, especially the Hamburg grand sample.
Own it, Love it. Remember that you cannot replicate the real acoustic sound with digital piano even NV5s. The Action beats NV5s for me. Most classical pianist use it for practice purposes. The price is friendly too. I would recommend this to anyone.
BoatNXP: Nor can an acoustic piano capture the sound of a real digital piano. I'm saying that real is a stupid word. They are just different piano solutions. And acoustic pianos all sound different to each other anyway. And they keep evolving, or at least they should. I wonder how the forte pianos played by Bach and Mozart would compare? The important thing in the context of the GP-510 review is: What works for you at this price point? For many people, a piano with a headphone socket is indispensible, and an acoustic piano is a luxury. I'm happy with a much cheaper digital piano, though I dream of owning a great acoustic piano too. The dream doesn't have to be realised. Stu wanted to have one home piano for everything and sold his German upright so he could get a Novus 5. That says a lot about the way the market is moving. Soon they'll be giving away the cheapest uprights. Well in some cases they already are.
@@Zoco101 the world is such a small place. Days ago I ran int to a nother Mike S however, his Mike S were all small letters. Also I don't think he's a pianist🎹🎶
Always love your reviews which have helped in my decisions. Just want to point out that those looking for a hybrid as a practice piano as opposed to a main or only piano, should seriously consider this Casio. I tried the Kawai CA79 and 99 (99 having great sound from the spruce soundboard speaker) but found them far too digital as far as touch was concerned. Based on your video on Shigeru Kawais I got myself the amazing SK3 and use this Casio 510 for night practicing on headphones. I find it a much easier “partner to my grand” than my previous Yamaha U1 silent play (which I preferred over the CA99). I also agree that the Bechstein and Steinway samples are more enjoyable!! The Bosendorfer sampling is somewhat a muffle…
@@joergwinter2627 Not much… it has hall simulations but I wouldn’t say the spatial effect is very obvious. Also, strange thing about this 510 is the very simple JVC flats headphones are great! With my previous Yamaha silent play I used to have to use high end full headphones to get a good sound but somehow the JVCs brings out the piano sound very well!! They’re also light so is comfortable for long periods.
If i have your SK3 I WOULDN'T NEED any other piano , Since i'm still starting up my best bet is an Acoustic Samick Piano for about 2k, i wouldn't waste money over an acoustic emulator (a.k.a Digital hybrid)...I already have Casio CTX-800 the keys are very slippery, idk about the GP-510 keys grip but also the Polished Ebony is a fingerprint Magnet...I prefer Walnut or Mahogany for this reason but sadly they didn't make it so on the upgrade i may not consider the GP-510
I'm glad you have taken the time to review this Casio GP510 because the first time round when i think you compared it to the Kawai CA79 you didn't give it the time of day! I play a Roland FP90 which is real good but was looking to upgrade to the GP510 but was put off after your first attempt review so tried the CA49 and 59 and liked both but i was so impressed with the action on the Casio . It put me in a dilemma and i've not purchased anything yet , still playing my Roland but after watching this review you've sold it me because i actually think you seem a little bit smitten by it and your someone who knows your pianos! . I love your reviews your the best in the business and it seems I'm gonna have to make the trip again to have a go on one to totally convince my self . Keep up the good the work Stu.
There is high frequency noise in the capture of the audio of this video. Not sure what the source of that was, but you may want to see if you can filter it out or eliminate the source. I know many people can't hear very high frequencies, but I assure you its present
I hear it too. I am not entirely sure as to what that sound was, but we do apologize for the inconvenience. There was some renovations happening on site at the time this video was recorded, so, perhaps, there was some ambient tool noise.
I've had a GP-500 for two years and want to add some input. A chief complaint people had with the GP-500 was the speaker system lacking power. Casio responded to that feedback and increased it pretty dramatically. Well in doing that and NOT making any modification to the piano cabinet seems to be a problem, IMO. The speakers overpower the cabinet and now the two are out of balance. Louder doesn't necessarily mean better. I'm surprised they made such a blunder. Musical instruments are so complex that changing such a major component of the sound without some modification to the cabinet only created a different issue. My big issue with the GP-500 is the huge sound difference between headphone sound and speaker sound. I love playing with headphones so much more than playing with the speakers. The same piano settings sounded like two completely different pianos. You can't tell your audience, if you could only hear what I hear with the headphones. Stu mentions the scene modes and that is the real beauty of the piano. For my taste the Berlin grand (Bechstein sound) using the Debussy scene mode is the best combination. It's a pity that Stu didn't use that combination for his demonstration. There is no phony escapement bump in the key action. Bechstein left it out in favor of having a faster key response and that is a wise move. Other brands claim to have escapement, but it is NOT having a bump that makes the action better. On a real grand piano the escapement allows you to create a quieter sound and changes the actual tone quality of the note. So if you play "above the escapement" with one hand and below it with the other you create a totally different sound. The hand playing below the escapement can play at a quite level (piano) and the hand playing above the escapement can play even softer (pianissimo) and with a more shimmering tone. It is an EXTREMELY difficult technique to fully master. Putting the feel of a bump cannot create the technique. I've found that I am able to create that technique on the Casio and create the shimmer effect like a grand piano. My evaluation is the Bechstein part of the collaboration is much better than the Casio side. The lacking part of the piano is the sound it creates. I would say it has the finest action of any hybrid piano because the phony escapement bump was left out for a faster key response and even without the bump you can slightly create the sound for playing above the escapement, if you have the technical level to do it. The Kawai and Yamaha hybrid pianos cannot do it regardless of your technical ability, even though they use a real piano action. My wish is that Bechstein collaborated with either one of them.
I like your reference to the "phony escapement" created by a bump. I know on certain Kawai actions the escapement feel is accomplished by a rubber nub passing a detente. My concern has always been that the rubber nub is bound to wear out over time. I have a DGX-670 with a phony escapement, but it's extremely subtle, and seems to be done in some way with the spring stiffness, I suspect that the leaf spring hits some sort of secondary pivot that cause a very slight increased in stiffness at a certain point. It's almost imperceptible, but it is there. That said, I think your technique of being able to play above and below the escapement point would be impossible on the Yamaha because the feel of alleged escapement is so imperceptible at speed.. Another issue would be if there any difference in the way the electronic sensors actually respond to the touch. Never the less I find the GHS Yamaha action very playable because of the sound of my particular set up which is the result of combining a Pianoteq Pro voice with the internal voice of the DGX using two different speaker systems. The tone is very rich, quite even, and very satisfying overall. What I have noticed is the Yamaha has 5 levels of touch sensitivity and I wish it were infinitely more and could be adjusted on the fly with a rotary nob. The steps of the touch levels are a bit too far apart. Interestingly after playing the instrument for a while I landed on the center setting which is called something like "normal." It's not heavy or light according to the labeling.
The manuals of both the GP500 and GP510 state they both have the same amplifier power and same speaker configuration. Both instruments have two stereo amplifiers: 30 watts for the woofers and 20 watts for the midrange/tweeter. The power consumption is 38 watts for both pianos. They both use the same power adaptor as well. The speakers have the same size.
@@Instrumental-Covers I was able to try a GP-310 and it was definitely much louder than my GP -500. It's interesting that the specs compare as the same. Thanks for letting me know. Also the overall sound of all three piano samples on the GP-310 sounded better to me over my GP-500.
@@c3piano Hello Carlos. There are a few things that I imagine could cause the difference in volume. One could be that the speaker drivers have a higher sensitivity now (possible, but a bit unlikely and more costly). Another one could be that the newer pianos have received a more pronounced midrange equalization. I can adjust in my digital piano several settings and make the sound much louder with the same speaker and amplifier. This to me seems a more probably reason. Another reason could be a higher input from the pre-amplifier.
I have a GP300 and agree with all of your comments regarding the action and the sounds. I love the instrument with the caveat regarding the upper quarter of the keyboard where the tone becomes harsh and almost unmusical without applying a specific lighter touch.
A huge difference between lineout and speakers and both aren't exciding compared to the NV5 review where both lineout and speakers sounded nearly the same. Thanks for the Review Stu!
I don't know what the GP-510 costs, but I would think most people would be quite pleased with this instrument. Your review of this instrument is very sincere and well thought out.
I tried this and the CA79, but I preferred the action on this WAY more than the CA79. The CA79 sounded better imo, but the action felt really weird toward the bottom and just didn't feel quite right. It was probably the best I've tried from what I'd consider a digital piano, but the action on the CAs doesn't hold up to the GP 510.
The Kawai I felt a bit of a nicer sound,.but the action is too light, and too lighter than any average acoustic grand piano. The touch is too light a not firm as the Casio GP 510. The Kawai CA 99//901/701 action is unsubstantial. Not good for any advanced classical music repertoire
I had the same impression. Sound and connectivity are way better on the Kawais, but the action… it’s nice to play but too light. It also feels strange at the bottom of the keys, as if it were too deep and the keybed too hard. I also found the Casio quieter in terms of key noise (with volume totally down) and better cushioned.
@@vlb12345 Yeah, I use pianoteq (and sometimes Vienna Synchron pianos or the Ravenscroft 275) for my sound and my GP 310 for my keyboard. It's really a fantastic combination for a great piano experience. I usually have to play with headphones and it really feels and sounds like I'm playing a real grand sometimes.
There's a Japanese or Chinese vid out where they do a blind test of digitals v acoustic whilst guessing which one they were playing whist wearing a blindfold, one person thought this casio was a grand piano. So it must be good.
Extremely helpful - I have a 1994 7' Baldwin Grand (Hamburg works) which I love, but which overpowers the condominium we downsized to about 4 years ago. (With the lid up, it overpowered the 11' ceilings in our house as well.) Have been checking out digital hybrid instruments for our building's community room and, in doing so, am beginning to think of trading my Baldwin for a really good hybrid. I am not a pianist - I am a singer, but got pretty good after accompanying voice lessons for 35 years. So I like to play and sing - and am thinking of starting up jazz piano lessons again as well. These hybrid instruments have a lot to be said for my current situation (as regards space and sound). I really liked the Casio 510 I tried (better than the Yamaha AvantGrand NU1X, which surprised me) and am now eager to try a Kawai. This review answered a lot of my questions, which I very much appreciate. Still, giving up the acoustic instrument I love for any digital is an awful lot to contemplate.
I thought I'd be buried in my 7' Bechstein Model B, but having played a new GP-510 for the last five months in my winter home, I'm not so sure, now. I've just come back home for the summer to my acoustic grand, and yes, it is as lovely as ever (although it will need to be voiced again for the season). That said, I could see augmenting it or perhaps even replacing it with a digital hybrid someday, especially if we downsize. It was wonderful to practice at night with headphones, and I got spoiled choosing between three excellent pianos in the GP-510 to match my mood or what I was playing. I worked through most of the Piano Marvel course on my iPad connected to the Casio to focus on drilling technique / method that I needed to shore up. I agree though, the thought of giving up a beautiful hand-crafted instrument I really like for a digital hybrid is a chasm to cross... but it doesn't seem that unfathomable as it did last year. I remind myself that nothing is permanent... we're just caretakers for a time.
I bought one today and I am very very excited. I own a k300 and I had a clp775 (which I don’t like at all)! Tried this one and fell in love with the action
Congratulations! I am a huge fan of the Casio GP510! The tone and touch are quite impressive and authentic. I know you will be thrilled with everything it has to offer. :)
Internal speakers sound like there is some phase attenuation; a hollow muffled sound. If the recording faithfully represents your experience int he room then there is a problem. Too bad, the direct output sounds amazing. Great playing and such a delicate feel to your playing. Thanks for it all.
Thanks for tuning in! I am not sure how the GP510 was miked for the shoot, but it is possible that the L and R channels are slightly out of phase. In my experiences, the GP510's onboard speaker system is quite impressive. The best bet is to test out the model in person of course to experience it firsthand. Thanks again! I'll be sure to pass on your kind words to Stu for you about his playing! :)
Damn , you make me fall in love again with acoustic pianos . I always had a thing for Kawai. I had a Bosendorfer 170 1940 but sold it because I grew up with upright pianos action . I dabbed with electronic , and was looking for a Kawai vpc1 , but this blows my mind ( and probably my wallet )…😮
Thanks for tuning in! We really appreciate it. The Casio GP510 is quite the piano. The action and tone are both exceptional and very rewarding to play! :)
Thank you fortaking the time to review the GP. You've covered everything that I have available in my country but Clavinovas now. Thanks and congrats! Nice review
Tried one of these in store today. Wasn't focused on the sound super closely per say, but I loved the Hamburg Grand and the touch was INCREDIBLE for the price point. I think I'm going to buy one and save for a GX2 (my favorite sub-shigeru piano) instead of getting a NV10. The NV10 was definitely better, but for half the price, I am super happy with the GP 510.
I tried the Novus NVs10 and for its price I was quite disappointed from the very very light touch. Too much lighter than any average acoustic grand piano. I played the Casio GP 510 and I felt the touch and action more firmer and nicely heavier than the Kawai. For me the issue is if the 510 is enough suitable to study and pass advanced classical music diploma exams such as the LTCL Trinity College recital diploma exam
Casio usually uses 4 sample layers. However, their morphing technology, makes the transitions from sample to sample seamless in its volume and timbre. So, there is no stepping. The sound response is presented as a smooth dynamic curve.
Listening yet again, I have to comment that the recording via mics of the internal speaker output is way better than the direct lineout. It's hard to record via mics without adding some attitude on the mixer. Presumably there is a mixer. Anyway, for me it is night and day. My congratulations to Casio for producing such great speakers, and to Merriam for not losing that sound via the mics. I'm a little surprised that there are no proper EQ controls. Are we mere pianists/consumers not to be trusted with EQ? My much cheaper portable has three big physical EQ sliders, and I use them a lot. Update: In case anybody is wondering, I have recently deleted an earlier comment about the internal speakers on the GP-510, since I formed (the above) more positive opinion when I saw/heard the video again.
Hi Mike! We do our best to give a proper representation of the internal speaker systems by using a pair of studio-grade condenser microphones without any post-processing to ensure the audience gets to hear as transparent of a sound as possible. Onboard EQ knobs and sliders are more typical of portable digital pianos and stage pianos. They are less common in console-style digitals. However, there are plenty of settings and functions available within the instrument to adjust the overall tone.
Hi Stu you make the best reviews and your piano knowledge of both acoustic and digital pianos is just phenomenal! I also enjoy your improvisation playing! I do use an MP11SE and I am thinking of upgrading but all Avantgardes and Novus are on backorder for 4-6+ months so maybe the Casio can be a solid choice to use as a controller in Pianoteq.
My impression of the voice of the Casio is that it is very good. I play Pianoteq Pro combined with the internal DGX voice. I would like to know how the Casio sounds when combined with Pianoteq. Are the latency issues that would affect the tone production of combining the two?
The problem is no matter how expensive, what kind of speaker array and amplifier a digital piano has, no matter how the samples are recorded it's never going to sound like an acoustic piano because it's not creating sound the way an acoustic piano does, you're not hearing it the way you'd hear a real piano. The best you can hope for is a good re-creation of a recorded piano.
I own the GP-310, which is quite similar. I love the keyboard action which is probably the best in this price range. (which is why I bought it). However, there are a few issues with the sound sample, I find rather disturbing. Like what the reviewer mentioned, the upper third of the piano, the sound is too thin and harsh. The main reason is the EQ. Casio applied EQ to match the speakers, which I find distorting (thinner and harsher). If you listen through the headphones, the EQ pretty much ruins the experience. You can adjust the EQ to ‘line out’ which will save the day. Unfortunately, I cannot save presets on my GP-310. You can only save presets on the 510. Also, I find the Hamburg and Vienna grand samples to be pretty much useless (really bad). They sound nothing like the Steinway or Borsendorfer. The Berlin grand samples are acceptable.
Bear in mind that the samples contain noises like damper noises, etc. By messing why the EQ to match the speakers, these noises are also accentuated. If you have a good pair of headphones, you can hear all these accented noises in their full glory… not good.
@@gabriel_abe You can… but overall, I find the samples to be flawed… and no amount of tweaking can get them sounding right. So, I have abandoned them. Now, I hook the GP-310 to a laptop via MIDI, and output the sound through an audio interface. Currently, I am using the Garritan CFX sound samples, and they sound amazing.
@@gabriel_abe At around 17:25 in the video, he mentioned that the sound/attack at a certain point on the keyboard, around C5 to E5, changes quite abruptly. It you happen to be practicing a piece that hits around that area constantly, you will find the transition quite disturbing since we need to practice via repetition. I don’t know what the engineers at CASIO did to produce this effect, but I can’t un-hear it once I experienced it. They may have changed the mic composition/placement/balance at that particular point. They should have just paid someone who is good at sound sampling to do the job… like Garritan, Native Instruments, or Vienna Symphonic Library to name a few.
I have a GP-400 for about 9 years and the action is superb, even today. The speakers is where is it falls a little short, I should of got the 500. The 510 should have better speakers. Very durable action, I've had no issues.
That is awesome to hear! They are very solid instruments, so I'm not surprised to hear that you've been getting such excellent longevity out of the model. Thanks for tuning in and sharing! :)
Stu, Love your playing and your thorough objective reviews. One small suggestion is to consider a brief look at the backside of the pianos. Not everyone will place the back up against a wall. The Kawaii soundboard is often shown in photos. What does the backside of the GP-510 look like? Thank you so much for your playing and meaningful evaluations.
Haha that is certainly sound advice! The Bechstein collaboration is certainly evident in the action of the GP series. They have an amazing touch to compliment their fantastic sound. Thanks for tuning in! Enjoy your GP500! :)
Superb review of the piano! And very good sound quality in the video. I have started playing piano just seven months ago on a basic, old but unused, Yamaha YDP-140 (not the last edition of that model). I am trying to get right some compositions from Yann Tiersen. My Yamaha sounds right with headphones, but not so much with its own speakers. I wonder if I will manage to jump to one of those Casio (or its little brother, the GP-310) in the short term. Thank you for the review.
Thank you so much for the complimentary words and for taking the time to check out the video! That's awesome to hear that you've embarked on your piano journey. The Casio GP310 and GP510 are both wonderful digital pianos with excellent actions, piano tones, and speaker systems. Either model would certainly provide a meaningful upgrade in terms of the musical experience it offers. :)
I have to say that I'm really surprised and impressed by Casio's recent offerings. For so long, I heard the name Casio, and all I could think of was Ross on "FRIENDS" with his cheesy little keyboard, and the cheap keyboards you could find at K-Mart and similar stores back in the 80s. Never would I have expected them to come out with anything remotely similar to, or that could compete with, Yamaha or Kawai.
That is a very good point! Casio has definitely stepped things up. The new AP line models is yet another example of the strides the company is making. They're quite impressive! :)
You could actually use the line ins, and use this as an amazing midi controller for, let's say some VSL Syncron Pianos, actually using the built in monitors of the Piano as an output of your computer. Having the great touch and feel of the CASIO and the really good samples of the synchron pianos!
Absolutely! Any MIDI compatible digital piano could be converted into a controller. In this case, you are certainly getting a wonderful action to play by doing so! :)
@@MerriamPianos Yes! But this one actually has lines In, so you can also map the output of the vst to the Piano’s onboard speakers and hear it from the piano itself! I wonder if delay might be an issue tho
Casio's GP310 is undeniably an incredible value! There are only minor differences between the tone engines of the 310 and 510 (number of onboard sounds, additional resonance parameters), which makes the 310 a very good value purchase. However, the GP510's polished finish is truly beautiful and top-tier. This plays a significant role in the pricing of these two models in particular.
Not sure if you noticed, but I just wanted to point out that there is this high pitched chirping sound whenever you speak. Maybe it's got to do with the mic? Anyways I still think the video was really great!
Thank you kindly! We appreciate you taking the time to tune in. I will mention that to our production team. With that said, I believe it may have just been the microphone placement and capturing a little too much sibilance from Stu's voice.
thanks for replying. it's not about the satisfying my playing. It's about if you primarily practice on a digital piano, with faster speed repetition than acoustic pianos make your muscle memory and technique become too accustomed to the specific touch and response of that instrument. And if as consequence it's harder to play advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos or not. If the faster speed repetition affects to much your mussels and is harder to play on acoustic
You're very welcome! I suppose that playing on a digital piano for extended periods will make your playing/touch instincts adapt to that feel, but i would say that is the case anytime you switch between two pianos (digital or acoustic). For instance, playing a 5'0" acoustic baby grand will feel completely different than a 9'0" acoustic concert grand. There will always be the need to adapt to the exact instrument you're playing.
@MerriamPianos I tried the Casio GP-510 some months ago (before the Yamaha CLP 875 and 885 came out) and was impressed by its action. I thought its sounds were average and on the slightly bright side compared to Kawai's competition grand sound (which I love). Was wondering how you would compare the action and sounds of the GP -510 compared to the CLP-885? Are the sound samples of the Casio AP-750 comparable to the authenticity of the CLP-885 (assuming the next generation of GPs will use the AP750 samples)? The GP-510 is still more expensive than the CLP-885 here in Australia and is priced approx A$2000 lower than the Kawai NV5S which has a brilliant action and beautiful resonance. I haven't heard any news about any new GP models yet sadly....
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! We have not yet heard about any updates to the Casio GP line, but we will keep you posted if we do. Personally, I find the GP510's action superior to the the CLP885. It is a very heavy, controlled touch, which is quite authentic to a 6'+ grand piano in my opinion. In terms of the AP750's samples/sound, it is extremely impressive. Casio's samples on the AP750 are amongst the highest-fidelity, most realistic samples in that price category. The speaker system is also quite impressive, which brings the samples to life in a very exciting way! Thanks again and hope this helps! :)
Always honest and super useful reviews. I never get chance to play this or any of hybrid pianos as in my country there’s very less market for this type of instruments. O feell only plus point of this piano is a key action, at this price if we are getting a C. Bechstien’s grand action it’s really a very big plus point but I am really not happy the way it sounds. I prefer Kawai & Yamaha pianos. They do complete research and make professional products. I hope CASIO will improve the sound In next series of this. Thanks 😊
May I ask what did you decide? Im thinking between Casio Gp-510 and Kawai CA99. I can't play them here and try, cause I have OT order online. What was your conclusion?
11:50 there is almost unbearable treble, thank you for showing this aspect of instrument! Just realised that I already commented on this vid! I was looking at buying an earlier model GP300, but you only reviewed this one. Everything that you are talking about, is probably worse on a 10 year old model... I think I will stick to my older Casio as the seller thinks it's worth much more than I am prepared to pay... Thank you for saving me money and once again, I enjoyed your playing immensely, Stu!
Hall Stu Thank you again asked for a wonderful video of you! I personally like the sound and the playability of the CA99 better, but that is probably also a taste…! One note: I have heard a chirp like a grill all the time… What can that be the reason for?
Hi, I'm a former professional player and I'm researching to buy a hybrid piano, because unfortunately I can't have an acoustic piano now. Im considering between Kawai ca-99 and Casio Gp-510. Where I'm living I don't have the opportunity of trying these models and have to other them online. Which one would you at the end suggest between these 2 models? As closest to playing with an acoustic. Sound wise and touch! I have watched your comparison video of these 2 models and also the separate ones. Didn't help for having a conclusion. I mean what it sounds in your videos is not very acoustic-like. But I think recoding is having effect on them too.
I own one, great sound - and action - I also have a C. Bechestein EN Concert Grand, and the actions if very comparable to the C. Bechestein Concert Grand Piano . I like the layering of "Strings" when playing a melody, it gives you the full sound of a Orchestra behind the Piano - one thing I do need to get adjusted if possible - is the sustain Pedal does not sustain the piano - but will sustain the layering of " strings". Probably an adjustment some where in the instrument. When playing the piano only, with out "strings" being layered, its almost like the sustain pedal is not working - Great instrument - good value for the money - bought one for myself, and for a friend's Children to learn the Piano.
My Kawai ES 920 is the champion of them all when it comes keyboard noise, it's like a mini drum roll after each and every keystroke, meaning you have to play loud not to be annoyed by it.
I needed practice equipment. In my living room, I have an acoustic Yamaha G2 piano, so for my tedious daily practice, I was looking for something that would serve as a workhorse, closely replicating the mechanics and feel of playing an acoustic piano. I couldn’t imagine spending a fortune on Silent Pianos or similar solutions because, truth be told, I was looking for something that had a similar mechanism but not necessarily the same sound quality. To be honest, considering that I practice with headphones and use other equipment for concerts, I didn’t want to overpay for something that would never have the opportunity to showcase its capabilities and price. I chose the Casio GP310 precisely because it has a full analog hammer action system designed by Bechstein (not any pressure or sandwich systems, but literally the entire hammers striking a digital sensor). The feel of playing is very close to my piano. The sound... well, it’s mediocre at best. Casio isn’t a specialist in sound quality. Nevertheless, that doesn’t matter at all. For practice, this equipment is fantastic. I don’t know if there’s any competition in the market when it comes to this price point and the acoustic representation of piano mechanics. I recommend considering this option if you’re looking for something solely for practice that’s as good as possible for your fingers-at a relatively good price (though still not low). For consideration. Cheers!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights and process! The Casio GP310 and GP510 offer excellent actions. The collaboration with Bechstein was quite fruitful given the heavy, authentic-feeling touch these pianos offer. These models are a bit long in the tooth now, so they do not feature Casio's current capabilities sonically. The sample sets featured on the new PXS and AP models are quite impressive. I'm sure the next generation of GP models will be far more impressive in this regard. :)
Hi!, Here, in Argentina, i can choose between the GP310 and the Kawai CA49 at the same price (near to AR$650.000). Wich one i'll must buy? (Note 1: i want some like an acoustic piano, real action and good piano sound, maybe two piano sound, no need more. Note 2: Superior CA (59, 79 or 99) or Casio GP510 don't sell here. )
Good afternoon. Could you please tell me if gp510 is equal to gp310 in terms of musicality? Does it make sense to overpay 45% of the price? Interested only in music in headphones/line output/acoustic speakers/action. Thank you. Interesting issue: showed the difference between line-output and built-in acoustic speakers. Acoustic speakers are disappointing: the timbres do not match the original. Добрый день. Подскажите, пожалуйста, по музыкальности gp510 равен gp310? Есть ли смысл переплачивать 45% цены? Интересует только музыкальность в наушниках/линейном-выходе/акустических динамиках/ход клавиш. Спасибо. Интересный выпуск: показали разницу между линейным-выходом и встроенными акустическими динамиками. Акустические динамики - разочаровали: тембры не совпадают с оригиналом.
The point is these digital pianos are not made for entry level at the first look so they should compete the models like Yamaha B1 silent or similar models like that. The action of these digitals still cannot use for advanced classical pianists.
@@babakmahbaei the action on this GP510 is actually faster than than all acoustic grand pianos, but it as well as all other hybrid DPs do not have a real escapement. Stu does not play that type of classical music that demands it. He plays beautifully, but not at the level classically to really demonstrate what it does.
@@c3piano Actually I have one this Casio GP 510. I should say the connection of keys and sounds are not similar to real piano and this is the main difference of digital. And the action is very lighter but this is not the advantage.
@@babakmahbaeibut the dealers say is suitable for advanced classical music levels. Why do you think the 510 is not? It's anyway heavier than the Kawai
@@verymozart In my experience no digital piano can copy the piano and I think for classic players they are very different. In my opinion after months, the keys in Casio are not close to grand pianos.
The Casio Gp510 or Roland LX708 regarding the Action and sound Authenticity ? Or Charles R. Walter Console Piano (all 3 are in the same price Range the Acoustic is the highest then Casio GP-510 and LX-708 at the bottom of the price range)
The GP510 vs LX708 would make for an excellent comparison video. Thank you for the idea! We do our best to tackle as many community member submitted concepts as possible. :)
@@george0t Если вам нравится Стейнвей, то у вас по прежнему нет выбора)). Тембр всё решает, а клавиши деревянные скажут всё остальное. Но если брать всё в совокупности, а не судить по Гранд Европа, то тут картина не такая радужная наверно((.
After watching all the reviews on this channel, I finally went to the store to try out some digital pianos. The GP-510 impressed me far more than I was expecting - the action really is quite a bit nicer than on the Kawai CA99. I'm still leaning more toward the CA99 (or the very-soon-to-be-released CA901), but it's not an easy choice especially since they are priced very similarly here.
The GP510 is certainly worth consideration when shopping for a top-tier hybrid digital piano. The C. Bechstein co-designed action is fantastic and quite rewarding to play! It is definitely a tough call between the CA99 and GP510, but it is fantastic that you had a chance to get to a showroom to test them out in person. That is always the best way to make a final decision whenever possible! :)
I ended up ordering a CA901. I wasn't actually able to play one at the store, but I am basically putting my faith in Kawai that it will at least sound as nice as the CA99 I played, if not nicer. The deciding factor for me was the sound - the Kawai just seemed to be on another level in terms of realism. And while I preferred the action on the GP510, I figure if someone in my house manages to outgrow the action on the CA901 in a few years that's actually a good thing as it gives me a good excuse to upgrade to a K300 with Aures! 😂 New piano arrives next week and I can hardly wait! Thanks for all of your wonderful videos!
It does not sound as good as the CA79 or 99. The action is pretty much on par and I love the looks like the fake hammers. Wish Casio will improve the sounds
@@stevenqirkle tried yesterday in person in a showroom the CASIO GP510 , the old model Kawai CA99 and both the KAWAI CA701 and 901. The Kawai sound is nice but the action is unrealistically light, the 99 is a little bit heavier the 701/901 is even lighter. Too light I believe for classical music very advanced playing. Because they are so much lighter than any average acoustic grand piano. I was very disappointed by the high lightness of the Kawai especially the 701 and 901. I think is a non sense to make the successors even lighter. The 510 is maybe less nice than the Kawai sound. But the hammer action with real hammers is very good. It doesn't need counterweights because has the real hammers. But various dealers keep advising me that for classical music advanced level the Kawai 701/901, I really don't get why. Grand feel 3 action of the Kawai is too light. And I think is going to affect the performance at a diploma exam and could make it to fail it
@@verymozart I agree the action on the CA901 is light. It's not a big deal for me since I am not an advanced player, but I can see how it would be a problem when practicing very demanding pieces. When I visited the store, the dealer recommended GP-510 for serious study. But since we are more casual in my house we opted for the CA901.
I recently tried both of these models and both actions are excellent, but I enjoyed the GP510 more. But the LX 708 is better than either one of them. I owned a GP500, which was ruined due to water pipe leaking and had to replace it. I've found the Casio action to be excellent and I'm a classical pianist for 50 years. I would have bought the LX 708 over the GP510 and the GP510 over the LX706. But the Lx708 was white and that color wouldn't fit in with our furniture, the GP510 has an unknown delivery date due to the pandemic, as was trying to order the LX708 and I bought a Kawai NV5 as it was available. If the GP510 was available I would have bought it and recommend it over the LX706. But if you can swing getting the LX708 then I would recommend it over all the others. Try them all for yourself, if you can, and good luck and enjoy whichever you prefer.
@@c3piano Thank you very much Carlos, your feedback is really appreciated. I've got an opportunity to get a slightly used LX706 second hand, I haven't played it but I played the LX705 with the regular PHA50 and really liked it despite the somewhat "negative" comments I've heard from people saying it's sorta sluggish and shallow... anyway, my guess is that sometimes people exagerate and take extremely complex classical pieces to judge on a key action, otherwise I cannot understand why would it be say sluggish when I'm perfectly able to perform Chopin trills, also I perfectly express with this action so it's kinda confusing... OTOH tried a GP310 and disliked the action compared to the PHA50, after reading a lot of positive thoughts about Casio's hybrid action I'm starting to think it over again and again, maybe my negative perception of the whole piano experience on the GP310 made me think that the action wasn't that great? Anyway, I definetely need to try them side by side again and again until I really come to some true conclusions, still thank you for your help!
I've tried the NU-1X and the N-1X. Through their own speakers the difference is apparent. The latter sounds constricted, but the NX-1 is well over €2000 more expensive. If space is much more important than money, you might be happy with either of these, but I'll hang on to my quite decent portable piano and save for a secondhand acoustic. I might give a different answer in 5 years if the technology keeps improving at this rate. And one concern is that with technology advancing so rapidly, what resale value would these existing hybrids have?
Merriam music is not en independent "reviewer". They are a piano dealer who makes demonstrations of the products that they're selling (they don't sell new Yamahas). Sadly, real reviews are a rarity in today's market. These are good demonstrations, but ultimately these are not unbiased reviews. Check bonners if you want comparisons between Yamaha, Roland and Kawai, from a dealer that sells all of those products, but in keep in mind that they are actually trying to sell them. For a true critical review, you're on your own. Go to a store and try the instruments.
Apologise to comment again. I really appreciate if you can reply again. As I wrote, I've been regularly playing a GP310 at a library, and even set at touch heavy 2, (the heaviest setting), I'm afraid that the key weight /touch is still lighter or too lighter than acoustic grand /baby grand pianos that there are at the advanced classical music diploma, and that this might make more difficult to play the advanced exam répertoire on those acoustic at the exam, if you can mainly have studied it on the Casio GP510/310. That's why I didn't purchase it yet. Also what I felt is, that when you press the keys it feels very very light the touch, but while playing advanced classical music pieces, it feels not light at all but rather heavy as an acoustic piano, as it's required for the diploma practice. I'm confused. Also I happened to play another GP310 in a different library of the same borough, set at the same heavy 2, ( without the headphone as it's in a soundproof room). I loved the besonderes Sound very much, it's not weak at all and it's nice, but it felt lighter than the same model of the first library set at the same heavy 2 touch. Please help me understand as I'm really confused to take the decision to purchase it or not. Even because the GP510 key action beats all the other models of different brands within similar price range I played, included yamaha and and kawai
Hi! Brent here! Unfortunately, I am not really sure I can provide any useful insights here. The GP310 and GP510 have one of the heaviest actions on the market that you will find in a digital piano. The inconsistency you're experiencing doesn't make a lot of sense, assuming that there is nothing faulty with the piano or its touch sensitivity functions. One thing to factor in is that our mood and perception in a given moment can sometimes impact the musical experience. It is also the case that different pieces/styles will require a different touch, meaning that some pieces will feel more aligned with a specific action than others.
@@MerriamPianos thanks for replying, but what do you think about the key weight /touch of the casio, is it actually lighter than those acoustic grand pianos that there are at the advanced classical music diploma exam, and if being lighter, it makes or not more difficult to play it on those acoustic if studied mainly on the Casio GP 510/310. Also are you sure it's among the heaviest actions? I remember models I tried as the Yamaha clp 775 and 785...are heavier than the casio, but maybe less responsive, and somehow less realistic...
I would love to know how does this compare with a Kawai NV5, from people that know both the pianos. Everywhere I look everybody is screaming and swearing how incredible and game changer is the Kawai, "best DP piano ever" it became like the subtitle of the Kawai NV5 , what it "scares" me to go for it is that I absolutely ADORE beyond measure Bechstein pianos sound. And since Casio GP-510 is made by literally collaborating with Bechstein and using their piano sounds I would go blindly for the Casio...but then I hear everybody saying how incredible is the Kawai NV5....And I am scared that if I get the Casio I am going to miss the "life changer" piano...aka the Kawai NV5...
The difference is: NV5 feels like an upright. You still feel the difference sound wise, but it is negligible when you play it. It plays very close to an acoustic. GP-510, it still sounds like a digital piano, it’s price tag also justifies the experience. It is at the same price point of Kawai CA99. Playing experience very similar. GP-310 is probably the better choice though, the action and the core sounds are exactly the same.
Kawai did good marketing through networks but I have tried both and the CASIO GP 510 is infinitely more realistic in terms of touch, sound and sensitivity than the Kawai nv5 (which is like an upright piano).
Hi there! We have not received any official notice from Casio at this time in regard to any updates to the GP line. However, you can rest assured that, once we do, we will publish a video that covers the announcement and any spec/feature updates. :)
I hear a nasty buzz when I connect a balanced line-out from my soundcard into the line-in of the Casio GP-500. I believe the line-in on the Casio is unbalanced, but I'm not able to find this information. I think the buzz is due to this mismatch. The buzz is there even if I don't have the Casio connected to the laptop via USB - ie when using it just like an expensive speaker system for the laptop. When nothing is playing, there's no buzz, but as soon as there's a signal present, the buzz is audible again. I'm wondering if anyone has any solutions to this problem.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Unfortunately, Casio does not indicate whether the line-in of the GP models are balanced or unbalanced. You may be correct in terms of the mismatch. With that said, maybe one of our helpful community members here have experienced this issue and have a potential solution.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for the reply. The reason I think it's unbalanced is because when inserting a TRS tip, it "clicks" only once, whereas on a balanced input I feel two clicks before the tip i fully inserted.
I basically play my digital headphones only 95% of the time. Which casio digitals have this exact same action. If they just put this action without speakers or anything fancy looking, heck, just unfinished plywood and 1 sound sample and a headphone port for much cheaper I would buy the heck out out it before I finish typing this sentence
I certainly understand. Unfortunately, the only models that use this Natural Grand Hammer Action are the GP310 and GP510. It would be interesting to see this fantastic action being included on a MIDI controller or something to that effect. :)
@@MerriamPianos I was in a rabbit hole today on the new digitals. All the money asked for hybrid digitals with real piano actions but...I cant help but thinking how many free pianos are out there with well, a real piano action! You would think it would be cheaper to make an aftermarket electronic add on for any old piano rather than the other way around. Remove the string, install the sensors where the hammers would hit. Could just be a wide thick strip of sensor. Use AI to calibrate it with hit zones by telling it what note you are playing. Person who does that would be an instant thousandaire
Or how about a digital piano that does not have an action, but its just prebuilt for you to just take one from a free old studio or grand piano and just click it in. There are millions of these unwanted all over the world.
@@JoeLinux2000 Yamaha. The CSP 170 have a NWX action (wooden, but folded action). For me, GP-510 have a bit better action (not much), but I don't like the sounds and speakers. Too thin.
@@ivanivanovicibut there are many settings that improve and change the sound on the same spaekers of the Casio GP,510. Did you try the settings before judging it?
i think at the level these pianos are,both the Casio and Kawai,the preference is mostly subjuctive.One can tell from your face you dont really like this Casio,but the reasons are plainly obviously subjective,the issue about the treble might not bother someone else or they even enjoy it,and the action is 100% a subjective thing.
Hi! Brent here! I agree 100% that it all comes down to subjectivity. Every player will gravitate towards a different tone and touch based on their subjective preferences. At the end of the day, the most important thing is finding an instrument that you resonate with. :)
I played the GP510, and I've been playing the GP 310 in a library. I'm very impressed by the action and touch. My dilemma before buying is:. The 510/310 have a speed repetition faster than acoustic grand pianos. Does that make more difficult to play advanced classical music (especially with difficult fast passages) on acoustic grand pianos, if you practice mainly or only on the Casio GP510/310? And if the setting of heavier touch sensitivity can solve or minimise the faster speed repetition ?
The touch curve settings can certainly help mitigate that issue. In terms of whether it would be substantial enough to satisfy your playing comes down to personal subjectivity of course. With that said, I recommend experimenting with the touch settings the next time you play on the GP310 or GP510 to see if you can achieve a satisfactory result for yourself. :)
@@MerriamPianosthanks for replying. it's not about the satisfying my playing. It's about if you primarily practice on a digital piano, with faster speed repetition than acoustic pianos make your muscle memory and technique become too accustomed to the specific touch and response of that instrument. And if as consequence it's harder to play advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos or not. If the faster speed repetition affects to much your mussels and is harder to play on acoustic
hi 🙂.. I just tried it and I also really liked the mechanics, it almost doesn't look like a digital piano.. the strange thing is that it's a very light mechanic (I tested the weight) but it doesn't look like it.. it's probably the percussion of the hammer and the stroke of the keys.. unfortunately the sound is really fake.. playing classical music the cantabile department is really ugly and irregular.. some notes have many harmonics, others are harsh, others sound less, others have annoying beats. in short, for the classic it is not good .. as well as the Roland sound (the central department is all irregular). I think Kawai has the most convincing sounds.
We are happy to hear that you had a chance to test out the Casio GP510! It really does have a wonderful all-wooden key action thanks to the collaboration with C. Bechstein. At the end of the day, tone is a very personal and subjective matter. All of these wonderful piano lines certainly have their place at the table, but it is for each player to determine which one they resonate with the most. It sounds like you have found your preference in the wonderful line of Kawai digital pianos. :)
It is true that the action is not an exact transplant from an acoustic upright or grand. With that said, the action that Casio has come up with in collaboration with C. Bechstein provides quite a rewarding and authentic playing experience. :)
I find the treble to be super weak on the Hamburg On the Berlin it's too bright. The Hamburg high notes sound super muffled and muted, I can barely hear them
@@julianmanjarres1998I’m a professional pianist and I don’t understand what piano you’ve tried, because the CASIO GP 510 I played was infinitely better than any current digital
Jesus Christ, STU! What is this horribly annoying high pitch wizz in your mic recording setup? It kills me! Please, PLEASE deal with it. Anyone else, but you... Sacrifice a little bit more time to veryify your video before release. Is it an air conditioning, is it a motion detector, or you just have there a killer cicadas out there? I have a headache and i was looking for a reliefe, so when i found a new video of your i was delighted, but when i turned it on... It KILLS me :(
@Ed Pin. I’m listening back and I hear it too. I honestly didn’t notice it when I was checking it back. And I think it’s a cricket. Of all the things to sully a video 😬. No more crickets, I promise.
*This guy hates CASIO, in several videos he acts like this, he's like an idiot only limiting himself to preferring brands like Yamaha or Kawai. CASIO has a more advanced 6-speaker system, plus the lid gives it that unique realism and its sound source is more realistic along with its keys. CASIO wins all round*
The one thing I always take away from these reviews is how astounding of a player Stu is
Excellent review that helped me with my decision to go with the GP-510 to replace my Yamaha P-120. I have found going into Settings > Effect > Brilliance, and changing it from the default of 0 to -1 or even -2 tames those tweeters, especially with the Berlin Grand's tendency to really sing starting about F#5. My great room is all hard surfaces so the piano sounds particularly bright at its factory defaults (so did the P-120, which had a brilliance slider as well). Additionally, you can set the Simulated Lid to CLOSED, but then leave the physical lid open. Your preferred acoustic settings can be saved as a Scene, and you can also turn off the option that always boots up the piano at defaults.
By the way, the GP-510 has two hidden tweeters aimed towards the player's ears. Using a flashlight, you can see them behind the black cloth covering the "sound port" slot above the fall-board. There are two mid-range drivers aimed up hidden beneath the red felt under the lid, and of course, two massive woofers aimed down under the keyboard.
For headphones, I'm finding the Philips SHP9600 are a great match. I have to check to make sure the piano speakers really are off, they are so convincing.
My other piano is a rebuilt C. Bechstein grand (Model B), so the Casio is in good company.
Thanks for sharing. How do you turn off to boot to default settings?
Did you end up purchasing this piano? Are you pleased with it?
I expect that, like me, many reviewers dart back and forth listening to the assorted patches with and without internal speakers. This can very tricky on a handheld device or on a TV, so if you miss the bit where Stu says "Here's the Hamburg" you're lost.
It would be very helpful if those nice red captions (describing the audio source) mentioned the patch name too, and stayed on screen throughout that section of the video.
PS The Hamburg starts around 14:09, in case anyone is looking for it. It switches to internal speakers around 14:46.
After listening to this video a second time I feel in regards to the collaboration between Casio and Bechstein that the Bechstein portion is nicer than the Casio portion. Ive had a GP-500 for two years and it's the action that I love much more than the sound through the speakers.
Rewatching this video, the thought comes to mind that if you have to play this piano in a band rehearsal, the extra treble you get by opening the lid might be advantageous. Nothing is worse than losing your treble/mid while you're trying to improvise an accompaniment in a modern music band, resulting in not hearing your voicings properly. My DP has a button which superimposes extra treble and effects for playing in a band.
If I understand correctly, this piano has an almost complete grand action (in an upright shell) as opposed to the Kawai upright action on the NV5(S).
Thanks for the review. Always great information and great playing. I purchased a gp 510 earlier this year and am very happy that I did. I love the action and the sound, especially the Hamburg grand sample.
Own it, Love it. Remember that you cannot replicate the real acoustic sound with digital piano even NV5s. The Action beats NV5s for me. Most classical pianist use it for practice purposes. The price is friendly too. I would recommend this to anyone.
BoatNXP: Nor can an acoustic piano capture the sound of a real digital piano. I'm saying that real is a stupid word. They are just different piano solutions. And acoustic pianos all sound different to each other anyway. And they keep evolving, or at least they should. I wonder how the forte pianos played by Bach and Mozart would compare?
The important thing in the context of the GP-510 review is: What works for you at this price point? For many people, a piano with a headphone socket is indispensible, and an acoustic piano is a luxury.
I'm happy with a much cheaper digital piano, though I dream of owning a great acoustic piano too. The dream doesn't have to be realised.
Stu wanted to have one home piano for everything and sold his German upright so he could get a Novus 5. That says a lot about the way the market is moving. Soon they'll be giving away the cheapest uprights. Well in some cases they already are.
@@Zoco101 the world is such a small place. Days ago I ran int to a nother Mike S however, his Mike S were all small letters. Also I don't think he's a pianist🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Definitely another Mike S. Was he a musician at all?
@@Zoco101 I don't think so🎹🎶
@@Zoco101 he does have his own channel tho however, I don't think there's any music related content🎹🎶
Always love your reviews which have helped in my decisions. Just want to point out that those looking for a hybrid as a practice piano as opposed to a main or only piano, should seriously consider this Casio. I tried the Kawai CA79 and 99 (99 having great sound from the spruce soundboard speaker) but found them far too digital as far as touch was concerned. Based on your video on Shigeru Kawais I got myself the amazing SK3 and use this Casio 510 for night practicing on headphones. I find it a much easier “partner to my grand” than my previous Yamaha U1 silent play (which I preferred over the CA99). I also agree that the Bechstein and Steinway samples are more enjoyable!! The Bosendorfer sampling is somewhat a muffle…
Hi, is there any binaural or spatial effect in the GP510 when using headphones?
@@joergwinter2627 Not much… it has hall simulations but I wouldn’t say the spatial effect is very obvious. Also, strange thing about this 510 is the very simple JVC flats headphones are great! With my previous Yamaha silent play I used to have to use high end full headphones to get a good sound but somehow the JVCs brings out the piano sound very well!! They’re also light so is comfortable for long periods.
@@joergwinter2627 using full open back headphones there is. I use the Philips Fidelio headphones as they are truly open back and it sounds superb.
I find the Steinway sample to be muffled as well. The high register can barely be heard.
If i have your SK3 I WOULDN'T NEED any other piano , Since i'm still starting up my best bet is an Acoustic Samick Piano for about 2k, i wouldn't waste money over an acoustic emulator (a.k.a Digital hybrid)...I already have Casio CTX-800 the keys are very slippery, idk about the GP-510 keys grip but also the Polished Ebony is a fingerprint Magnet...I prefer Walnut or Mahogany for this reason but sadly they didn't make it so on the upgrade i may not consider the GP-510
I'm glad you have taken the time to review this Casio GP510 because the first time round when i think you compared it to the Kawai CA79 you didn't give it the time of day! I play a Roland FP90 which is real good but was looking to upgrade to the GP510 but was put off after your first attempt review so tried the CA49 and 59 and liked both but i was so impressed with the action on the Casio . It put me in a dilemma and i've not purchased anything yet , still playing my Roland but after watching this review you've sold it me because i actually think you seem a little bit smitten by it and your someone who knows your pianos! . I love your reviews your the best in the business and it seems I'm gonna have to make the trip again to have a go on one to totally convince my self . Keep up the good the work Stu.
I have the Casio GP310 (same action as GP510) and you won't regret it 👍
There is high frequency noise in the capture of the audio of this video. Not sure what the source of that was, but you may want to see if you can filter it out or eliminate the source. I know many people can't hear very high frequencies, but I assure you its present
I hear it too. I am not entirely sure as to what that sound was, but we do apologize for the inconvenience. There was some renovations happening on site at the time this video was recorded, so, perhaps, there was some ambient tool noise.
I've had a GP-500 for two years and want to add some input. A chief complaint people had with the GP-500 was the speaker system lacking power. Casio responded to that feedback and increased it pretty dramatically. Well in doing that and NOT making any modification to the piano cabinet seems to be a problem, IMO. The speakers overpower the cabinet and now the two are out of balance. Louder doesn't necessarily mean better. I'm surprised they made such a blunder. Musical instruments are so complex that changing such a major component of the sound without some modification to the cabinet only created a different issue. My big issue with the GP-500 is the huge sound difference between headphone sound and speaker sound. I love playing with headphones so much more than playing with the speakers. The same piano settings sounded like two completely different pianos. You can't tell your audience, if you could only hear what I hear with the headphones. Stu mentions the scene modes and that is the real beauty of the piano. For my taste the Berlin grand (Bechstein sound) using the Debussy scene mode is the best combination. It's a pity that Stu didn't use that combination for his demonstration.
There is no phony escapement bump in the key action. Bechstein left it out in favor of having a faster key response and that is a wise move. Other brands claim to have escapement, but it is NOT having a bump that makes the action better. On a real grand piano the escapement allows you to create a quieter sound and changes the actual tone quality of the note. So if you play "above the escapement" with one hand and below it with the other you create a totally different sound. The hand playing below the escapement can play at a quite level (piano) and the hand playing above the escapement can play even softer (pianissimo) and with a more shimmering tone. It is an EXTREMELY difficult technique to fully master. Putting the feel of a bump cannot create the technique. I've found that I am able to create that technique on the Casio and create the shimmer effect like a grand piano.
My evaluation is the Bechstein part of the collaboration is much better than the Casio side. The lacking part of the piano is the sound it creates. I would say it has the finest action of any hybrid piano because the phony escapement bump was left out for a faster key response and even without the bump you can slightly create the sound for playing above the escapement, if you have the technical level to do it. The Kawai and Yamaha hybrid pianos cannot do it regardless of your technical ability, even though they use a real piano action. My wish is that Bechstein collaborated with either one of them.
I like your reference to the "phony escapement" created by a bump. I know on certain Kawai actions the escapement feel is accomplished by a rubber nub passing a detente. My concern has always been that the rubber nub is bound to wear out over time. I have a DGX-670 with a phony escapement, but it's extremely subtle, and seems to be done in some way with the spring stiffness, I suspect that the leaf spring hits some sort of secondary pivot that cause a very slight increased in stiffness at a certain point. It's almost imperceptible, but it is there. That said, I think your technique of being able to play above and below the escapement point would be impossible on the Yamaha because the feel of alleged escapement is so imperceptible at speed.. Another issue would be if there any difference in the way the electronic sensors actually respond to the touch. Never the less I find the GHS Yamaha action very playable because of the sound of my particular set up which is the result of combining a Pianoteq Pro voice with the internal voice of the DGX using two different speaker systems. The tone is very rich, quite even, and very satisfying overall. What I have noticed is the Yamaha has 5 levels of touch sensitivity and I wish it were infinitely more and could be adjusted on the fly with a rotary nob. The steps of the touch levels are a bit too far apart. Interestingly after playing the instrument for a while I landed on the center setting which is called something like "normal." It's not heavy or light according to the labeling.
The manuals of both the GP500 and GP510 state they both have the same amplifier power and same speaker configuration. Both instruments have two stereo amplifiers: 30 watts for the woofers and 20 watts for the midrange/tweeter. The power consumption is 38 watts for both pianos. They both use the same power adaptor as well. The speakers have the same size.
@@Instrumental-Covers I was able to try a GP-310 and it was definitely much louder than my GP -500. It's interesting that the specs compare as the same. Thanks for letting me know. Also the overall sound of all three piano samples on the GP-310 sounded better to me over my GP-500.
@@c3piano Hello Carlos. There are a few things that I imagine could cause the difference in volume. One could be that the speaker drivers have a higher sensitivity now (possible, but a bit unlikely and more costly). Another one could be that the newer pianos have received a more pronounced midrange equalization. I can adjust in my digital piano several settings and make the sound much louder with the same speaker and amplifier. This to me seems a more probably reason. Another reason could be a higher input from the pre-amplifier.
@@Instrumental-Covers Thanks for the info. I paid $5,900 for the Casio and the NV5 was reduced to $6.500 due to the newer model coming soon.
I have a GP300 and agree with all of your comments regarding the action and the sounds. I love the instrument with the caveat regarding the upper quarter of the keyboard where the tone becomes harsh and almost unmusical without applying a specific lighter touch.
A huge difference between lineout and speakers and both aren't exciding compared to the NV5 review where both lineout and speakers sounded nearly the same. Thanks for the Review Stu!
The NV5 is lovely but it is almost twice the price of this GP510 and has an upright action.
I don't know what the GP-510 costs, but I would think most people would be quite pleased with this instrument. Your review of this instrument is very sincere and well thought out.
I tried this and the CA79, but I preferred the action on this WAY more than the CA79. The CA79 sounded better imo, but the action felt really weird toward the bottom and just didn't feel quite right. It was probably the best I've tried from what I'd consider a digital piano, but the action on the CAs doesn't hold up to the GP 510.
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The Kawai I felt a bit of a nicer sound,.but the action is too light, and too lighter than any average acoustic grand piano. The touch is too light a not firm as the Casio GP 510. The Kawai CA 99//901/701 action is unsubstantial. Not good for any advanced classical music repertoire
I had the same impression. Sound and connectivity are way better on the Kawais, but the action… it’s nice to play but too light. It also feels strange at the bottom of the keys, as if it were too deep and the keybed too hard. I also found the Casio quieter in terms of key noise (with volume totally down) and better cushioned.
@@vlb12345 Yeah, I use pianoteq (and sometimes Vienna Synchron pianos or the Ravenscroft 275) for my sound and my GP 310 for my keyboard. It's really a fantastic combination for a great piano experience. I usually have to play with headphones and it really feels and sounds like I'm playing a real grand sometimes.
There's a Japanese or Chinese vid out where they do a blind test of digitals v acoustic whilst guessing which one they were playing whist wearing a blindfold, one person thought this casio was a grand piano. So it must be good.
That is very cool! The sonic presentation of the high end Casio pianos is truly quite impressive! :)
Для рояля глубины звука не хватает, но звук приятный по тембру. Стейнвей однако в миниатюре. Маленький доступный Стейнвей.
Extremely helpful - I have a 1994 7' Baldwin Grand (Hamburg works) which I love, but which overpowers the condominium we downsized to about 4 years ago. (With the lid up, it overpowered the 11' ceilings in our house as well.) Have been checking out digital hybrid instruments for our building's community room and, in doing so, am beginning to think of trading my Baldwin for a really good hybrid. I am not a pianist - I am a singer, but got pretty good after accompanying voice lessons for 35 years. So I like to play and sing - and am thinking of starting up jazz piano lessons again as well. These hybrid instruments have a lot to be said for my current situation (as regards space and sound). I really liked the Casio 510 I tried (better than the Yamaha AvantGrand NU1X, which surprised me) and am now eager to try a Kawai. This review answered a lot of my questions, which I very much appreciate. Still, giving up the acoustic instrument I love for any digital is an awful lot to contemplate.
I thought I'd be buried in my 7' Bechstein Model B, but having played a new GP-510 for the last five months in my winter home, I'm not so sure, now. I've just come back home for the summer to my acoustic grand, and yes, it is as lovely as ever (although it will need to be voiced again for the season). That said, I could see augmenting it or perhaps even replacing it with a digital hybrid someday, especially if we downsize. It was wonderful to practice at night with headphones, and I got spoiled choosing between three excellent pianos in the GP-510 to match my mood or what I was playing. I worked through most of the Piano Marvel course on my iPad connected to the Casio to focus on drilling technique / method that I needed to shore up. I agree though, the thought of giving up a beautiful hand-crafted instrument I really like for a digital hybrid is a chasm to cross... but it doesn't seem that unfathomable as it did last year. I remind myself that nothing is permanent... we're just caretakers for a time.
I bought one today and I am very very excited. I own a k300 and I had a clp775 (which I don’t like at all)! Tried this one and fell in love with the action
Congratulations! I am a huge fan of the Casio GP510! The tone and touch are quite impressive and authentic. I know you will be thrilled with everything it has to offer. :)
Internal speakers sound like there is some phase attenuation; a hollow muffled sound. If the recording faithfully represents your experience int he room then there is a problem. Too bad, the direct output sounds amazing. Great playing and such a delicate feel to your playing. Thanks for it all.
Thanks for tuning in! I am not sure how the GP510 was miked for the shoot, but it is possible that the L and R channels are slightly out of phase. In my experiences, the GP510's onboard speaker system is quite impressive. The best bet is to test out the model in person of course to experience it firsthand. Thanks again! I'll be sure to pass on your kind words to Stu for you about his playing! :)
Damn , you make me fall in love again with acoustic pianos . I always had a thing for Kawai. I had a Bosendorfer 170 1940 but sold it because I grew up with upright pianos action . I dabbed with electronic , and was looking for a Kawai vpc1 , but this blows my mind ( and probably my wallet )…😮
Thanks for tuning in! We really appreciate it. The Casio GP510 is quite the piano. The action and tone are both exceptional and very rewarding to play! :)
Thank you fortaking the time to review the GP. You've covered everything that I have available in my country but Clavinovas now. Thanks and congrats! Nice review
您好，來自台灣。
您的影片是我目前找到關於Casio GP-510最棒的解說。
Stu, please a review for the CLP 700 series
745 and 785.
Tried one of these in store today. Wasn't focused on the sound super closely per say, but I loved the Hamburg Grand and the touch was INCREDIBLE for the price point. I think I'm going to buy one and save for a GX2 (my favorite sub-shigeru piano) instead of getting a NV10. The NV10 was definitely better, but for half the price, I am super happy with the GP 510.
I tried the Novus NVs10 and for its price I was quite disappointed from the very very light touch. Too much lighter than any average acoustic grand piano. I played the Casio GP 510 and I felt the touch and action more firmer and nicely heavier than the Kawai. For me the issue is if the 510 is enough suitable to study and pass advanced classical music diploma exams such as the LTCL Trinity College recital diploma exam
Casio usually uses 4 sample layers. However, their morphing technology, makes the transitions from sample to sample seamless in its volume and timbre. So, there is no stepping. The sound response is presented as a smooth dynamic curve.
Wow your brain is big
Listening yet again, I have to comment that the recording via mics of the internal speaker output is way better than the direct lineout. It's hard to record via mics without adding some attitude on the mixer. Presumably there is a mixer. Anyway, for me it is night and day. My congratulations to Casio for producing such great speakers, and to Merriam for not losing that sound via the mics.
I'm a little surprised that there are no proper EQ controls. Are we mere pianists/consumers not to be trusted with EQ? My much cheaper portable has three big physical EQ sliders, and I use them a lot.
Update: In case anybody is wondering, I have recently deleted an earlier comment about the internal speakers on the GP-510, since I formed (the above) more positive opinion when I saw/heard the video again.
Hi Mike! We do our best to give a proper representation of the internal speaker systems by using a pair of studio-grade condenser microphones without any post-processing to ensure the audience gets to hear as transparent of a sound as possible. Onboard EQ knobs and sliders are more typical of portable digital pianos and stage pianos. They are less common in console-style digitals. However, there are plenty of settings and functions available within the instrument to adjust the overall tone.
Hi Stu you make the best reviews and your piano knowledge of both acoustic and digital pianos is just phenomenal! I also enjoy your improvisation playing! I do use an MP11SE and I am thinking of upgrading but all Avantgardes and Novus are on backorder for 4-6+ months so maybe the Casio can be a solid choice to use as a controller in Pianoteq.
My impression of the voice of the Casio is that it is very good. I play Pianoteq Pro combined with the internal DGX voice. I would like to know how the Casio sounds when combined with Pianoteq. Are the latency issues that would affect the tone production of combining the two?
The problem is no matter how expensive, what kind of speaker array and amplifier a digital piano has, no matter how the samples are recorded it's never going to sound like an acoustic piano because it's not creating sound the way an acoustic piano does, you're not hearing it the way you'd hear a real piano. The best you can hope for is a good re-creation of a recorded piano.
Great reviewing skills and nice improvisation on the Grieg Adagio :)
I own the GP-310, which is quite similar. I love the keyboard action which is probably the best in this price range. (which is why I bought it). However, there are a few issues with the sound sample, I find rather disturbing. Like what the reviewer mentioned, the upper third of the piano, the sound is too thin and harsh. The main reason is the EQ. Casio applied EQ to match the speakers, which I find distorting (thinner and harsher). If you listen through the headphones, the EQ pretty much ruins the experience. You can adjust the EQ to ‘line out’ which will save the day. Unfortunately, I cannot save presets on my GP-310. You can only save presets on the 510. Also, I find the Hamburg and Vienna grand samples to be pretty much useless (really bad). They sound nothing like the Steinway or Borsendorfer. The Berlin grand samples are acceptable.
Bear in mind that the samples contain noises like damper noises, etc. By messing why the EQ to match the speakers, these noises are also accentuated. If you have a good pair of headphones, you can hear all these accented noises in their full glory… not good.
@@nottipiglet you can change these noises too in the settings…
@@gabriel_abe You can… but overall, I find the samples to be flawed… and no amount of tweaking can get them sounding right. So, I have abandoned them. Now, I hook the GP-310 to a laptop via MIDI, and output the sound through an audio interface. Currently, I am using the Garritan CFX sound samples, and they sound amazing.
@@nottipiglet that’s a way to do it! 👏 it would be great to share a video of your setup to the community :)
@@gabriel_abe At around 17:25 in the video, he mentioned that the sound/attack at a certain point on the keyboard, around C5 to E5, changes quite abruptly. It you happen to be practicing a piece that hits around that area constantly, you will find the transition quite disturbing since we need to practice via repetition. I don’t know what the engineers at CASIO did to produce this effect, but I can’t un-hear it once I experienced it. They may have changed the mic composition/placement/balance at that particular point. They should have just paid someone who is good at sound sampling to do the job… like Garritan, Native Instruments, or Vienna Symphonic Library to name a few.
I have a GP-400 for about 9 years and the action is superb, even today. The speakers is where is it falls a little short, I should of got the 500. The 510 should have better speakers. Very durable action, I've had no issues.
That is awesome to hear! They are very solid instruments, so I'm not surprised to hear that you've been getting such excellent longevity out of the model. Thanks for tuning in and sharing! :)
Thanks for this review! How would you compare the action of the Casio GP510 to the Yamaha NU1X? Thanks!
CASIO has a keyboard action like the grand piano but Yamaha is like an upright piano.
Stu, Love your playing and your thorough objective reviews. One small suggestion is to consider a brief look at the backside of the pianos. Not everyone will place the back up against a wall. The Kawaii soundboard is often shown in photos. What does the backside of the GP-510 look like? Thank you so much for your playing and meaningful evaluations.
It's basically just black wood, you can see some screws, not very pretty
@@d-32 is the back of the Roland GP 607/GP 609 like that also?🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 no idea, I only own one piano
I own the previous GP500 and nothing beats its action, the sound is very nice too. GP 510? Just buy it and be happy. Save the money for a trip. :)
Haha that is certainly sound advice! The Bechstein collaboration is certainly evident in the action of the GP series. They have an amazing touch to compliment their fantastic sound. Thanks for tuning in! Enjoy your GP500! :)
Superb review of the piano! And very good sound quality in the video. I have started playing piano just seven months ago on a basic, old but unused, Yamaha YDP-140 (not the last edition of that model). I am trying to get right some compositions from Yann Tiersen. My Yamaha sounds right with headphones, but not so much with its own speakers. I wonder if I will manage to jump to one of those Casio (or its little brother, the GP-310) in the short term. Thank you for the review.
Thank you so much for the complimentary words and for taking the time to check out the video! That's awesome to hear that you've embarked on your piano journey. The Casio GP310 and GP510 are both wonderful digital pianos with excellent actions, piano tones, and speaker systems. Either model would certainly provide a meaningful upgrade in terms of the musical experience it offers. :)
Would like to see a review of the KORG D1.
I have to say that I'm really surprised and impressed by Casio's recent offerings. For so long, I heard the name Casio, and all I could think of was Ross on "FRIENDS" with his cheesy little keyboard, and the cheap keyboards you could find at K-Mart and similar stores back in the 80s. Never would I have expected them to come out with anything remotely similar to, or that could compete with, Yamaha or Kawai.
That is a very good point! Casio has definitely stepped things up. The new AP line models is yet another example of the strides the company is making. They're quite impressive! :)
their top line could do with a refresh, add more edit features etc
You could actually use the line ins, and use this as an amazing midi controller for, let's say some VSL Syncron Pianos, actually using the built in monitors of the Piano as an output of your computer. Having the great touch and feel of the CASIO and the really good samples of the synchron pianos!
Absolutely! Any MIDI compatible digital piano could be converted into a controller. In this case, you are certainly getting a wonderful action to play by doing so! :)
@@MerriamPianos Yes! But this one actually has lines In, so you can also map the output of the vst to the Piano’s onboard speakers and hear it from the piano itself! I wonder if delay might be an issue tho
@@nachorondan2703delay is no issue, ground noise seems to be though
There's no piano out there that can beat the price quality you get with the gp310 which sounds and feels exactly as this one and it's much cheaper.
Casio's GP310 is undeniably an incredible value! There are only minor differences between the tone engines of the 310 and 510 (number of onboard sounds, additional resonance parameters), which makes the 310 a very good value purchase. However, the GP510's polished finish is truly beautiful and top-tier. This plays a significant role in the pricing of these two models in particular.
Not sure if you noticed, but I just wanted to point out that there is this high pitched chirping sound whenever you speak. Maybe it's got to do with the mic? Anyways I still think the video was really great!
Thank you kindly! We appreciate you taking the time to tune in. I will mention that to our production team. With that said, I believe it may have just been the microphone placement and capturing a little too much sibilance from Stu's voice.
thanks for replying. it's not about the satisfying my playing. It's about if you primarily practice on a digital piano, with faster speed repetition than acoustic pianos make your muscle memory and technique become too accustomed to the specific touch and response of that instrument. And if as consequence it's harder to play advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos or not. If the faster speed repetition affects to much your mussels and is harder to play on acoustic
You're very welcome! I suppose that playing on a digital piano for extended periods will make your playing/touch instincts adapt to that feel, but i would say that is the case anytime you switch between two pianos (digital or acoustic). For instance, playing a 5'0" acoustic baby grand will feel completely different than a 9'0" acoustic concert grand. There will always be the need to adapt to the exact instrument you're playing.
@MerriamPianos I tried the Casio GP-510 some months ago (before the Yamaha CLP 875 and 885 came out) and was impressed by its action. I thought its sounds were average and on the slightly bright side compared to Kawai's competition grand sound (which I love). Was wondering how you would compare the action and sounds of the GP -510 compared to the CLP-885? Are the sound samples of the Casio AP-750 comparable to the authenticity of the CLP-885 (assuming the next generation of GPs will use the AP750 samples)? The GP-510 is still more expensive than the CLP-885 here in Australia and is priced approx A$2000 lower than the Kawai NV5S which has a brilliant action and beautiful resonance. I haven't heard any news about any new GP models yet sadly....
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! We have not yet heard about any updates to the Casio GP line, but we will keep you posted if we do. Personally, I find the GP510's action superior to the the CLP885. It is a very heavy, controlled touch, which is quite authentic to a 6'+ grand piano in my opinion. In terms of the AP750's samples/sound, it is extremely impressive. Casio's samples on the AP750 are amongst the highest-fidelity, most realistic samples in that price category. The speaker system is also quite impressive, which brings the samples to life in a very exciting way! Thanks again and hope this helps! :)
Hi Stu...and what do you think about Nu1x action?
Always honest and super useful reviews. I never get chance to play this or any of hybrid pianos as in my country there’s very less market for this type of instruments. O feell only plus point of this piano is a key action, at this price if we are getting a C. Bechstien’s grand action it’s really a very big plus point but I am really not happy the way it sounds. I prefer Kawai & Yamaha pianos. They do complete research and make professional products. I hope CASIO will improve the sound In next series of this. Thanks 😊
The Casio GP 510 does not have the action of a C Becshtein🎹🎶
*THE CASIO HYBRID IS INFINITELY BETTER THAN ANY YAMAHA DIGITAL PIANO, KAWQI, ETC.*
Excellent review and thank you for all the info, will help me out choosing between Casio and Kawai.. cheers!
Casio is infinitely better than any Kawai digital piano.
May I ask what did you decide? Im thinking between Casio Gp-510 and Kawai CA99. I can't play them here and try, cause I have OT order online. What was your conclusion?
11:50 there is almost unbearable treble, thank you for showing this aspect of instrument! Just realised that I already commented on this vid! I was looking at buying an earlier model GP300, but you only reviewed this one. Everything that you are talking about, is probably worse on a 10 year old model... I think I will stick to my older Casio as the seller thinks it's worth much more than I am prepared to pay... Thank you for saving me money and once again, I enjoyed your playing immensely, Stu!
Thanks for watching! There have inevitably been some improvements from the GP predecessors. We appreciate you tuning in and writing. Thanks again!
Great review great comments by the viewers.
Thanks so much! We appreciate it. :)
@@MerriamPianoswould you buy it again ?
Hall Stu Thank you again asked for a wonderful video of you! I personally like the sound and the playability of the CA99 better, but that is probably also a taste…! One note: I have heard a chirp like a grill all the time… What can that be the reason for?
i put the Stu's Poster near the chuck norris portrait
Haha amazing! :)
Hi,
I'm a former professional player and I'm researching to buy a hybrid piano, because unfortunately I can't have an acoustic piano now. Im considering between Kawai ca-99 and Casio Gp-510. Where I'm living I don't have the opportunity of trying these models and have to other them online. Which one would you at the end suggest between these 2 models? As closest to playing with an acoustic. Sound wise and touch!
I have watched your comparison video of these 2 models and also the separate ones. Didn't help for having a conclusion.
I mean what it sounds in your videos is not very acoustic-like. But I think recoding is having effect on them too.
Классный обзор 👍🏻👍🏻
I own one, great sound - and action - I also have a C. Bechestein EN Concert Grand, and the actions if very comparable to the C. Bechestein Concert Grand Piano . I like the layering of "Strings" when playing a melody, it gives you the full sound of a Orchestra behind the Piano - one thing I do need to get adjusted if possible - is the sustain Pedal does not sustain the piano - but will sustain the layering of " strings". Probably an adjustment some where in the instrument. When playing the piano only, with out "strings" being layered, its almost like the sustain pedal is not working - Great instrument - good value for the money - bought one for myself, and for a friend's Children to learn the Piano.
How about the keybed noise? Any preference on best hybrid digital piano where you can't hear the key clicks? Really hate that noise.
My Kawai ES 920 is the champion of them all when it comes keyboard noise, it's like a mini drum roll after each and every keystroke, meaning you have to play loud not to be annoyed by it.
I needed practice equipment. In my living room, I have an acoustic Yamaha G2 piano, so for my tedious daily practice, I was looking for something that would serve as a workhorse, closely replicating the mechanics and feel of playing an acoustic piano. I couldn’t imagine spending a fortune on Silent Pianos or similar solutions because, truth be told, I was looking for something that had a similar mechanism but not necessarily the same sound quality. To be honest, considering that I practice with headphones and use other equipment for concerts, I didn’t want to overpay for something that would never have the opportunity to showcase its capabilities and price.
I chose the Casio GP310 precisely because it has a full analog hammer action system designed by Bechstein (not any pressure or sandwich systems, but literally the entire hammers striking a digital sensor). The feel of playing is very close to my piano. The sound... well, it’s mediocre at best. Casio isn’t a specialist in sound quality. Nevertheless, that doesn’t matter at all. For practice, this equipment is fantastic. I don’t know if there’s any competition in the market when it comes to this price point and the acoustic representation of piano mechanics.
I recommend considering this option if you’re looking for something solely for practice that’s as good as possible for your fingers-at a relatively good price (though still not low).
For consideration. Cheers!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights and process! The Casio GP310 and GP510 offer excellent actions. The collaboration with Bechstein was quite fruitful given the heavy, authentic-feeling touch these pianos offer. These models are a bit long in the tooth now, so they do not feature Casio's current capabilities sonically. The sample sets featured on the new PXS and AP models are quite impressive. I'm sure the next generation of GP models will be far more impressive in this regard. :)
Hi!, Here, in Argentina, i can choose between the GP310 and the Kawai CA49 at the same price (near to AR$650.000). Wich one i'll must buy? (Note 1: i want some like an acoustic piano, real action and good piano sound, maybe two piano sound, no need more. Note 2: Superior CA (59, 79 or 99) or Casio GP510 don't sell here. )
Justo estoy considerando esos modelos, al final cual elegiste y como te fue?
Great one, however to expensive here for me. Anyway to test the AP710?
Good afternoon. Could you please tell me if gp510 is equal to gp310 in terms of musicality? Does it make sense to overpay 45% of the price? Interested only in music in headphones/line output/acoustic speakers/action. Thank you.
Interesting issue: showed the difference between line-output and built-in acoustic speakers. Acoustic speakers are disappointing: the timbres do not match the original.
Добрый день. Подскажите, пожалуйста, по музыкальности gp510 равен gp310? Есть ли смысл переплачивать 45% цены? Интересует только музыкальность в наушниках/линейном-выходе/акустических динамиках/ход клавиш. Спасибо.
Интересный выпуск: показали разницу между линейным-выходом и встроенными акустическими динамиками. Акустические динамики - разочаровали: тембры не совпадают с оригиналом.
I would like to have heard the comparison to include lid up
Great review thank you. Are you recommend it as an alternative for those who want to practice classical pieces but don't have real grand piano?
The point is these digital pianos are not made for entry level at the first look so they should compete the models like Yamaha B1 silent or similar models like that. The action of these digitals still cannot use for advanced classical pianists.
@@babakmahbaei the action on this GP510 is actually faster than than all acoustic grand pianos, but it as well as all other hybrid DPs do not have a real escapement. Stu does not play that type of classical music that demands it. He plays beautifully, but not at the level classically to really demonstrate what it does.
@@c3piano Actually I have one this Casio GP 510. I should say the connection of keys and sounds are not similar to real piano and this is the main difference of digital. And the action is very lighter but this is not the advantage.
@@babakmahbaeibut the dealers say is suitable for advanced classical music levels. Why do you think the 510 is not? It's anyway heavier than the Kawai
@@verymozart In my experience no digital piano can copy the piano and I think for classic players they are very different. In my opinion after months, the keys in Casio are not close to grand pianos.
Sounds lovely
What are you guys using to record this cause I have the same piano and it sounds nothing like that
The Casio Gp510 or Roland LX708 regarding the Action and sound Authenticity ? Or Charles R. Walter Console Piano (all 3 are in the same price Range the Acoustic is the highest then Casio GP-510 and LX-708 at the bottom of the price range)
The GP510 vs LX708 would make for an excellent comparison video. Thank you for the idea! We do our best to tackle as many community member submitted concepts as possible. :)
Since the GP-510 vs LX-708 didn't happen, it may now be a good opportunity to do a GP-510 vs LX-9 comparison.
@@george0t
Если вам нравится Стейнвей, то у вас по прежнему нет выбора)). Тембр всё решает, а клавиши деревянные скажут всё остальное. Но если брать всё в совокупности, а не судить по Гранд Европа, то тут картина не такая радужная наверно((.
What is escapement? How does it work on digital pianos? Why does it matter?
After watching all the reviews on this channel, I finally went to the store to try out some digital pianos. The GP-510 impressed me far more than I was expecting - the action really is quite a bit nicer than on the Kawai CA99. I'm still leaning more toward the CA99 (or the very-soon-to-be-released CA901), but it's not an easy choice especially since they are priced very similarly here.
The GP510 is certainly worth consideration when shopping for a top-tier hybrid digital piano. The C. Bechstein co-designed action is fantastic and quite rewarding to play! It is definitely a tough call between the CA99 and GP510, but it is fantastic that you had a chance to get to a showroom to test them out in person. That is always the best way to make a final decision whenever possible! :)
I ended up ordering a CA901. I wasn't actually able to play one at the store, but I am basically putting my faith in Kawai that it will at least sound as nice as the CA99 I played, if not nicer. The deciding factor for me was the sound - the Kawai just seemed to be on another level in terms of realism. And while I preferred the action on the GP510, I figure if someone in my house manages to outgrow the action on the CA901 in a few years that's actually a good thing as it gives me a good excuse to upgrade to a K300 with Aures! 😂
New piano arrives next week and I can hardly wait! Thanks for all of your wonderful videos!
It does not sound as good as the CA79 or 99. The action is pretty much on par and I love the looks like the fake hammers. Wish Casio will improve the sounds
@@stevenqirkle tried yesterday in person in a showroom the CASIO GP510 , the old model Kawai CA99 and both the KAWAI CA701 and 901. The Kawai sound is nice but the action is unrealistically light, the 99 is a little bit heavier the 701/901 is even lighter. Too light I believe for classical music very advanced playing. Because they are so much lighter than any average acoustic grand piano. I was very disappointed by the high lightness of the Kawai especially the 701 and 901. I think is a non sense to make the successors even lighter. The 510 is maybe less nice than the Kawai sound. But the hammer action with real hammers is very good. It doesn't need counterweights because has the real hammers. But various dealers keep advising me that for classical music advanced level the Kawai 701/901, I really don't get why. Grand feel 3 action of the Kawai is too light. And I think is going to affect the performance at a diploma exam and could make it to fail it
@@verymozart I agree the action on the CA901 is light. It's not a big deal for me since I am not an advanced player, but I can see how it would be a problem when practicing very demanding pieces. When I visited the store, the dealer recommended GP-510 for serious study. But since we are more casual in my house we opted for the CA901.
Not caring about sound, how does the key action compare to the new one on the LX706? Classical music and some jazz eventually
I recently tried both of these models and both actions are excellent, but I enjoyed the GP510 more. But the LX 708 is better than either one of them. I owned a GP500, which was ruined due to water pipe leaking and had to replace it. I've found the Casio action to be excellent and I'm a classical pianist for 50 years. I would have bought the LX 708 over the GP510 and the GP510 over the LX706. But the Lx708 was white and that color wouldn't fit in with our furniture, the GP510 has an unknown delivery date due to the pandemic, as was trying to order the LX708 and I bought a Kawai NV5 as it was available. If the GP510 was available I would have bought it and recommend it over the LX706. But if you can swing getting the LX708 then I would recommend it over all the others. Try them all for yourself, if you can, and good luck and enjoy whichever you prefer.
@@c3piano Thank you very much Carlos, your feedback is really appreciated. I've got an opportunity to get a slightly used LX706 second hand, I haven't played it but I played the LX705 with the regular PHA50 and really liked it despite the somewhat "negative" comments I've heard from people saying it's sorta sluggish and shallow... anyway, my guess is that sometimes people exagerate and take extremely complex classical pieces to judge on a key action, otherwise I cannot understand why would it be say sluggish when I'm perfectly able to perform Chopin trills, also I perfectly express with this action so it's kinda confusing... OTOH tried a GP310 and disliked the action compared to the PHA50, after reading a lot of positive thoughts about Casio's hybrid action I'm starting to think it over again and again, maybe my negative perception of the whole piano experience on the GP310 made me think that the action wasn't that great? Anyway, I definetely need to try them side by side again and again until I really come to some true conclusions, still thank you for your help!
Как хорошо звучит в ваших руках👏
Thanks so much for tuning in! :)
At 17:15 the sound loop is very pronounced.
На 17:15 очень выражена звуковая петля.
You guys are awesome! But please do the Yamaha Nu-1x, I feel like the Yamaha is kind of a blind spot at the moment. :)
I've tried the NU-1X and the N-1X. Through their own speakers the difference is apparent. The latter sounds constricted, but the NX-1 is well over €2000 more expensive. If space is much more important than money, you might be happy with either of these, but I'll hang on to my quite decent portable piano and save for a secondhand acoustic. I might give a different answer in 5 years if the technology keeps improving at this rate. And one concern is that with technology advancing so rapidly, what resale value would these existing hybrids have?
Merriam music is not en independent "reviewer". They are a piano dealer who makes demonstrations of the products that they're selling (they don't sell new Yamahas). Sadly, real reviews are a rarity in today's market.
These are good demonstrations, but ultimately these are not unbiased reviews. Check bonners if you want comparisons between Yamaha, Roland and Kawai, from a dealer that sells all of those products, but in keep in mind that they are actually trying to sell them. For a true critical review, you're on your own. Go to a store and try the instruments.
Can you also so the Gp 310?
Great suggestion! I think a GP310 versus GP510 comparison would be a very helpful endeavour.
Apologise to comment again. I really appreciate if you can reply again.
As I wrote, I've been regularly playing a GP310 at a library, and even set at touch heavy 2, (the heaviest setting), I'm afraid that the key weight /touch is still lighter or too lighter than acoustic grand /baby grand pianos that there are at the advanced classical music diploma, and that this might make more difficult to play the advanced exam répertoire on those acoustic at the exam, if you can mainly have studied it on the Casio GP510/310. That's why I didn't purchase it yet.
Also what I felt is, that when you press the keys it feels very very light the touch, but while playing advanced classical music pieces, it feels not light at all but rather heavy as an acoustic piano, as it's required for the diploma practice. I'm confused.
Also I happened to play another GP310 in a different library of the same borough, set at the same heavy 2, ( without the headphone as it's in a soundproof room).
I loved the besonderes Sound very much, it's not weak at all and it's nice, but it felt lighter than the same model of the first library set at the same heavy 2 touch.
Please help me understand as I'm really confused to take the decision to purchase it or not.
Even because the GP510 key action beats all the other models of different brands within similar price range I played, included yamaha and and kawai
Hi! Brent here! Unfortunately, I am not really sure I can provide any useful insights here. The GP310 and GP510 have one of the heaviest actions on the market that you will find in a digital piano. The inconsistency you're experiencing doesn't make a lot of sense, assuming that there is nothing faulty with the piano or its touch sensitivity functions. One thing to factor in is that our mood and perception in a given moment can sometimes impact the musical experience. It is also the case that different pieces/styles will require a different touch, meaning that some pieces will feel more aligned with a specific action than others.
@@MerriamPianos thanks for replying, but what do you think about the key weight /touch of the casio, is it actually lighter than those acoustic grand pianos that there are at the advanced classical music diploma exam, and if being lighter, it makes or not more difficult to play it on those acoustic if studied mainly on the Casio GP 510/310.
Also are you sure it's among the heaviest actions? I remember models I tried as the Yamaha clp 775 and 785...are heavier than the casio, but maybe less responsive, and somehow less realistic...
I would love to know how does this compare with a Kawai NV5, from people that know both the pianos.
Everywhere I look everybody is screaming and swearing how incredible and game changer is the Kawai, "best DP piano ever" it became like the subtitle of the Kawai NV5 , what it "scares" me to go for it is that I absolutely ADORE beyond measure Bechstein pianos sound. And since Casio GP-510 is made by literally collaborating with Bechstein and using their piano sounds I would go blindly for the Casio...but then I hear everybody saying how incredible is the Kawai NV5....And I am scared that if I get the Casio I am going to miss the "life changer" piano...aka the Kawai NV5...
The difference is:
NV5 feels like an upright. You still feel the difference sound wise, but it is negligible when you play it. It plays very close to an acoustic.
GP-510, it still sounds like a digital piano, it’s price tag also justifies the experience. It is at the same price point of Kawai CA99. Playing experience very similar.
GP-310 is probably the better choice though, the action and the core sounds are exactly the same.
Kawai did good marketing through networks but I have tried both and the CASIO GP 510 is infinitely more realistic in terms of touch, sound and sensitivity than the Kawai nv5 (which is like an upright piano).
Wish they would just sell the action alone as a MIDI controller to compete with the VPC1.
That would be a very cool idea! Perhaps, Casio will eventually offer a high-end MIDI controller with an all 88 wooden key action. :)
@@MerriamPianos With VSTs being so popular it makes you wonder why Renner doesn’t do the same thing or partner with a keyboard company to put one out.
Kawai actually did have hybrid pianos way before the Novus models - the Kawai EGP-10 (grand) and HA-11 (upright) from mid-late 90's or so.
I bought this one and it sounds nothing like this live. The touch is amazing but the sound quality not so much
The GP-500 came out in 2015, the GP-510 in 2019... when is the GP-520 coming out? This year? :)
Hi there! We have not received any official notice from Casio at this time in regard to any updates to the GP line. However, you can rest assured that, once we do, we will publish a video that covers the announcement and any spec/feature updates. :)
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Jazz cover of Rach 2 slow movement? Nice!
I disagree with the Rolands being close to the GP 510. I tried a few and was not impressed at all. They were fine, but they didn't feel authentic.
What’s that whistle like noise?
I am not sure to be honest. This video was shot quite sometime ago. With that said, I will pass on the feedback to our production team.
I hear a nasty buzz when I connect a balanced line-out from my soundcard into the line-in of the Casio GP-500. I believe the line-in on the Casio is unbalanced, but I'm not able to find this information. I think the buzz is due to this mismatch. The buzz is there even if I don't have the Casio connected to the laptop via USB - ie when using it just like an expensive speaker system for the laptop. When nothing is playing, there's no buzz, but as soon as there's a signal present, the buzz is audible again. I'm wondering if anyone has any solutions to this problem.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Unfortunately, Casio does not indicate whether the line-in of the GP models are balanced or unbalanced. You may be correct in terms of the mismatch. With that said, maybe one of our helpful community members here have experienced this issue and have a potential solution.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for the reply. The reason I think it's unbalanced is because when inserting a TRS tip, it "clicks" only once, whereas on a balanced input I feel two clicks before the tip i fully inserted.
I basically play my digital headphones only 95% of the time. Which casio digitals have this exact same action. If they just put this action without speakers or anything fancy looking, heck, just unfinished plywood and 1 sound sample and a headphone port for much cheaper I would buy the heck out out it before I finish typing this sentence
I certainly understand. Unfortunately, the only models that use this Natural Grand Hammer Action are the GP310 and GP510. It would be interesting to see this fantastic action being included on a MIDI controller or something to that effect. :)
@@MerriamPianos I was in a rabbit hole today on the new digitals. All the money asked for hybrid digitals with real piano actions but...I cant help but thinking how many free pianos are out there with well, a real piano action! You would think it would be cheaper to make an aftermarket electronic add on for any old piano rather than the other way around. Remove the string, install the sensors where the hammers would hit. Could just be a wide thick strip of sensor. Use AI to calibrate it with hit zones by telling it what note you are playing. Person who does that would be an instant thousandaire
Or how about a digital piano that does not have an action, but its just prebuilt for you to just take one from a free old studio or grand piano and just click it in. There are millions of these unwanted all over the world.
I played this model last month. In general, I prefer my CSP 170 (better sound and very good action too).
Who makes the CSP 170? Casio?
@@JoeLinux2000 Yamaha. The CSP 170 have a NWX action (wooden, but folded action). For me, GP-510 have a bit better action (not much), but I don't like the sounds and speakers. Too thin.
@@ivanivanovicibut there are many settings that improve and change the sound on the same spaekers of the Casio GP,510. Did you try the settings before judging it?
@@verymozart Yes. Even with headphones. I really wish i liked the casio more. Here is the cheapest brand.
@@ivanivanovici you mean you tried all the settings? There are many and sometimes it's difficult to know how. I'm not sure what you tried
U can see he is enjoying it from his expression ..😆
i think at the level these pianos are,both the Casio and Kawai,the preference is mostly subjuctive.One can tell from your face you dont really like this Casio,but the reasons are plainly obviously subjective,the issue about the treble might not bother someone else or they even enjoy it,and the action is 100% a subjective thing.
Hi! Brent here! I agree 100% that it all comes down to subjectivity. Every player will gravitate towards a different tone and touch based on their subjective preferences. At the end of the day, the most important thing is finding an instrument that you resonate with. :)
Gosh, Stu really abhors the lid-up sound of the GP510.
Sonic preferences are very subjective of course! Everyone has different tastes. :)
there is a very annoying high ptch constant noise throughout the vid, don't know what it is
I am not sure what that sound is to be honest, but I do hear it as well.
They removed escapment zo increes speed of the action.
Much like tone, every manufacturer has a different perspective in terms of what the "perfect touch" is.
@@MerriamPianos to me, it is the best hibryd action i ever played on. I like yamaha as well but avant n1 sounds too digital for me.
Casio has caught up with Yamaha
Do the keys still look and feel plasticky? Dunno why but Casio tends to do that...
Amazing keybed. GP series are top notch when it comes to playability, keybed and sound.
You’re living 10 years behind then my boy
You are living 20 years behind. Casio has already surpassed any Yamaha and Kawai digital piano
Can I hear a whistling on this audio?
I played the GP510, and I've been playing the GP 310 in a library. I'm very impressed by the action and touch. My dilemma before buying is:. The 510/310 have a speed repetition faster than acoustic grand pianos. Does that make more difficult to play advanced classical music (especially with difficult fast passages) on acoustic grand pianos, if you practice mainly or only on the Casio GP510/310? And if the setting of heavier touch sensitivity can solve or minimise the faster speed repetition ?
The touch curve settings can certainly help mitigate that issue. In terms of whether it would be substantial enough to satisfy your playing comes down to personal subjectivity of course. With that said, I recommend experimenting with the touch settings the next time you play on the GP310 or GP510 to see if you can achieve a satisfactory result for yourself. :)
@@MerriamPianosthanks for replying. it's not about the satisfying my playing. It's about if you primarily practice on a digital piano, with faster speed repetition than acoustic pianos make your muscle memory and technique become too accustomed to the specific touch and response of that instrument. And if as consequence it's harder to play advanced classical music on acoustic grand pianos or not. If the faster speed repetition affects to much your mussels and is harder to play on acoustic
hi 🙂.. I just tried it and I also really liked the mechanics, it almost doesn't look like a digital piano.. the strange thing is that it's a very light mechanic (I tested the weight) but it doesn't look like it.. it's probably the percussion of the hammer and the stroke of the keys.. unfortunately the sound is really fake.. playing classical music the cantabile department is really ugly and irregular.. some notes have many harmonics, others are harsh, others sound less, others have annoying beats. in short, for the classic it is not good .. as well as the Roland sound (the central department is all irregular). I think Kawai has the most convincing sounds.
We are happy to hear that you had a chance to test out the Casio GP510! It really does have a wonderful all-wooden key action thanks to the collaboration with C. Bechstein. At the end of the day, tone is a very personal and subjective matter. All of these wonderful piano lines certainly have their place at the table, but it is for each player to determine which one they resonate with the most. It sounds like you have found your preference in the wonderful line of Kawai digital pianos. :)
"lovely big badge" 🤣🤣🤣
Remember this is NOT a hybrid
It is true that the action is not an exact transplant from an acoustic upright or grand. With that said, the action that Casio has come up with in collaboration with C. Bechstein provides quite a rewarding and authentic playing experience. :)
Похоже это лучше гибрида. Да-с! Скорость, звук и тяжесть калиброванных клавиш - что ещё надо?
The best thing £4000 can get you.
The sound is ok but the treble is too bright🎹🎶
I find the treble to be super weak on the Hamburg
On the Berlin it's too bright.
The Hamburg high notes sound super muffled and muted, I can barely hear them
@@julianmanjarres1998I’m a professional pianist and I don’t understand what piano you’ve tried, because the CASIO GP 510 I played was infinitely better than any current digital
It sounds to me like you have a very “hard” room.
We shoot the videos in different locations, so the room sounds do vary. :)
Lovely, but I'm not going to hear much subtlety through my dinky computer speakers.
Jesus Christ, STU! What is this horribly annoying high pitch wizz in your mic recording setup? It kills me! Please, PLEASE deal with it.
Anyone else, but you... Sacrifice a little bit more time to veryify your video before release. Is it an air conditioning, is it a motion detector, or you just have there a killer cicadas out there?
I have a headache and i was looking for a reliefe, so when i found a new video of your i was delighted, but when i turned it on... It KILLS me :(
@Ed Pin. I’m listening back and I hear it too. I honestly didn’t notice it when I was checking it back. And I think it’s a cricket. Of all the things to sully a video 😬. No more crickets, I promise.
@@MerriamPianos what⁉️🎹🎶
@@MerriamPianos hope I didn't say any thing negative I just think it's funny the cricket part I meen🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 I know I know 🤷♂️…kind of silly! All good :)
@@MerriamPianos thanks🎹🎶
Stu is the best
:)
*This guy hates CASIO, in several videos he acts like this, he's like an idiot only limiting himself to preferring brands like Yamaha or Kawai. CASIO has a more advanced 6-speaker system, plus the lid gives it that unique realism and its sound source is more realistic along with its keys. CASIO wins all round*