Achilles / Rider of Red Explained Part 2 - Fate Apocrypha | Abilities & Noble Phantasms
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2018
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Ruler: • Fate Apocrypha - RULER...
Frankenstein: • Fate Apocrypha - Frank...
Mordred: • Fate Apocrypha - MORDR...
Astolfo: • Rider of Black: ASTOLF...
Jack The Ripper: • Assassin of Black: JAC...
Semiramis: • Assassin of Red: SEMIR...
Shiro Part 1: • Shirou Kotomine Explai...
Shakespeare: • Caster of Red: SHAKESP...
Karna: • Karna / Lancer of Red ...
Atalanta: • Archer of Red: ATALANT...
Siegfried: • Saber of Black: SIEGFR...
Achilles Part 1: • Achilles / Rider of Re... 
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I'd like to thank Cake# for responding to all comment that ask questions. He knows way more than I do on everything Fate related, and has been a great help in responding to you all! Thanks Cake!
So ya, just refer all question to Cake# and I'm sure he'll help you out XD
AniNews Lol its nothing matie. All that time absorbing typemoon is actually useful for something for once.
Also vasavi shakti is just anti divine on earth. On the moon cell its anti divine and army.
Cake# Nice work Cake.
Immortal Emperor with an Epic Beard Oh thanks.
Lancer of black. Vlad III pls
AniNews could u do one on lancelot(zerker)
I knew Achilles could’ve won the war by himself just like Gilgamesh if he took shit seriously
He was so op, the writers didn't know what to do with him (kinda like Gil, but atleast his personality is his biggest downfall).
"He'll just throw a planet at your face"
5:55
*cough*vlad's friendship power*cough*
But then there s amakusa shirou as a hard counter anyway so fair enough.
it's just like Alucard line from Helsing Ultimate Abridged: "HIT ME! FIGHT ME! GIVE ME A HUG!"
you got mentioned in the video.. nc huh
Dreary doll Vlad stole mlp's op attack
$100 says Paris of Troy will eventually be made one of those overspecialized Servants who's especially dangerous against Achilles but SUCKS against everyone else.
by that theory we should be getting rider, lancer, and maybe shielder achilles in fgo but i doubt it lmao
Especially since Type-Moon apparently cares more about introducing different cutesy-themed versions of the same goddamned waifu-class Servants! Anyways, it'll be a long wait.
quipper I mean Paris didn't do shit besides stealing girls getting his ass kicked and killing achilles
essentially this. Even the Romans whom believed they descended from the survivors of Troy thought Paris was a big dishonorable pussy.
Well we already have penthesilea as a possible achilles slayer since her NP is literally the embodiment of "achilles must die"
I REALLY want to see Achilles vs. Karna now with how OP they both are.
Immortal Emperor with an Epic Beard Achilles vs. Karna vs. Gill vs. Non-servant limitations Schathach, everyone on a battle royale. That would be a hella of a fight, put archer heracles there too and you will pretty much fuck an entire continent up on the fight
Geovanne Ferreira That right their is far too epic for the human mind to comprehend.
Geovanne Ferreira Scathach wins just by the fact she can't die since you said no limitations.
Cake# I was saying without them to her use power of other weapons and be a macth to the high levels NPs of the others with her rune magic. But let's put a Heroic Spirit restriction at least to make the fight a bit more balanced between the 4/5. Anyway, we don't know how far her real immortality goes, achilles spear should nulify it if they two are the last obes standing, or maybe gill's treasure might be able to sucefully knock her out/kill her. Gae bolg prevent the wounds inflicted of healing by ordinary means and she instantly recovered from cu's strike (with the effect of spreading a thousand thorns over the victms body if the heart is sucefully stroke) so maybe an EX rank could hit her.
Geovanne Ferreira No. To kill scathach you have to kill the world. Which is pretty much impossible for all of them even Gil. The world has safety measures for that.
Has anyone else thought about how ridiculous it is that Fate/Apocrypha has three invulnerability Noble Phantasms?
Not really. There a lot of myths about invulnerable heroes in various cultures throughout the world.
Plot armor FTW.
I actually love that part.
Apocrypha, while not being the best Fate in terms of lore, has some of my favourite Servant concepts, and three different invulnerability Noble Phantasms that actually work in three different ways has always been one of my favourite parts of it.
EIGOProduction I absolutly agree with you. Most of the masters were pretty boring (except Mordred's) and I just can't stand Sieg. But they put so many details in all of the servants. Their looks, their relationships, their powers and noble phantasms. The different servants really made this anime stand out for me. I just love digging through the hidden lore behin these beings..it really makes for an interessting show
Has anyone else thought about how ridiculous it is that half of the servants of the Black faction have noble phantasms that can only be used at night ? (Chiron, Jack, Astolfo and I am counting Vlad as half because he can only really be active at night in his vampire form) What are the odds ?
I'd love to see Cu Chulainn vs Achilles .
Between both their abnormally immense speeds, Achilles stacked abilities and the disgusting hax of Gae Bolg coupled with Cu's higher Divinity and easier chance to strike at his Heel. This would be likely a stalemate. Achilles having superior power and speed with Cu's techniques and agility doing far more than keep him in the fight
No Achilles would win without a doubt. Firstly he can't just decide to strike the heel. Achilles is faster than cu Cuclainn and also stronger. His skills are also very good. Secondly Achilles shield is far stronger than rho aias of Emyia and he durvived his strongest hit. Add to that that he has a really strong chariot and is skilled in fighting with a spear as well, though not as good as Cu Cuclainn, it is obvious who would win.
@@DavidS-1278 Achilles shield could also create a separate world which could suit his strength kind of like UBW a reality stone.
@@Tenz220 and to a adition to that gae bolg aims for the heart not the heal so it would me useless against him until cu hits his heel which he cant since arcillis is faster
I think a better matchup would be scathach vs Achilles
Scathach would win like 10/10 times tbh since she is completely immortal and more skilled but the battles would be more interesting
@@allianzsaint4336 Cu is a demi-god so if if he hits Achilles' heart he'll still kill him
@@koe3588 true but that is a big if because he is faster and he wont aim for his heal till he knows that's his weakspot
I’d love to see Rama and Achilles go head to head, as Rama can only be killed by a mortal man, and Achilles is still divine. They’re both amazing at martial arts so even if Achilles uses his field to remove his divinity it’d still be one hell of an epic fist fight. Seriously, I’d pay to see that.
Well, Rama can only be KILLED by a mortal man, but he could still be injured by like anyone, so like Cu Alter, Aquilles can just make him a cripple and then he just cant fight back
hey did you guys know that the voice actor of Achilles also voiced saitama from one punch man.
Amber Valkerie nooo, that the first time I'm hearing it! In the Japanese dub or in the English dub though?
Fiona Fuchs japanese they share the same voice actor
That actually explains a lot.
OHH no wonder achilles is op LOL
Oh thanks for reminding that Achilles' super speed is an NP. I think it was also playing a part in his final battle with Atalanta: Her being berserked pretty much upped her factor of being 'the fastest human' who people couldn't beat in a footrace without cheating... and that's how Achilles kept up with her for the final blow. Honestly, somehow I'm very invested to their relationship, it's one of the biggest draws of the show to me. But I think explaining it would be spoileriffic and not exactly what the video series is about.
Still waiting for Achilles to pop up in FGO.
After apocrypha event, Achilles is in FGO JP!
Well at that point he was slowed down. After he is struck on his heel his speed is greatly decreased
@@kocashima exactly. He only has 30% of his speed left.
In NA he now has a summer outfit
5:40-6:00
That explains why rulers were necessary for the apocrypha war
Red is too Op for the Black faction
FINALLY MY FAVORITE SERVANTS POWER HAS BEEN REVEALED TO THE WORLD! THANK YOU!
I've always wondered why Achilles didn't have a noble phantasm around the whole greatest warrior of his generation thing
Wow.
Freaking man.
That was amazing, I never knew all of that stuff.
Thank you a lot for this video ❤
I hope you keep these videos up!!!
Please continue this series for Fate/Extra when that eventually comes out.
Nova Cobra same😀.
Nova Cobra I agree
Could you possible do a video on the servant who originally was suppose to be the Rider of Red? It's Saint George and funnily enough both he and Achilles are actually my top two favorite servants.
parker maisterra I would have loved to see George in apocrypha. I love him in fgo
I really hope he and the rest of the Apocrypha servants that haven't been added to the gatcha in F/GO show up. The Red faction looks to be is so much more powerful than the Black faction when you stack them up with each other lol.
The Red Faction had the full support of the Mage Association. The war was basically a whole organization VS a single small group, so they put every resource they had to get the absolute best Servants
and Shakespeare (lol)
But yeah the Reds have some ridiculous powerhouses in their ranks. The Blacks actually planned the war very well considering their lack of resources (like summoning Vlad in his hometown, but all of the Servants they summoned were part of a good battle strategy, too bad Siegfried suicided and fucked it all up)
Apocrypha event some time ago, Achilles is one of the new additions!
I hope I get to see Achilles again in another fate series, honestly they could have so much with him and I felt he could have won the whole thing
Hahah, that just cracked me up. Super fast, skilled, tough, and if that doesn't cut ip, he'll just throw a "planet" to your face. See how you handle that. Good one man
he gave alstalfo za waurdo phantasm
Do you plan on doing the character breakdown for fate stay night servants as well or just apocrypha
Karna's VS despite being slowed by Command Seal enhanced Balmung spam by galvanisation, still destroyed Akhilleus Kosmos. I'm fairly sure Anti Divine in Karna's case is purely from damage output and not specifically against divinity concept.
he did it boys, he actually uploaded O_o, obligatory "nani ??!?!?"
most op servant, favorite Character written about in the Iliad, i couldnt have asked for a more pleasing character except for an entire fate show about him
The saddest thing is that Achilles is so incredibly OP, but would still get owned by Gilgamesh... xD
Shinobu well it depends if Gil could even hit him xD
Not if Achilles got Gil into a duel. As he can tank one shot from Enuma Elish with his shield
@@kocashima Enuma Elish is an Anti-World Rank:EX, where Akhilleus Kosmos is a "World" Rank:A+. Enuma Elish has enough dakka to eat the shield AND Achilles with it. Gill2Op GG
@@hisokamorow6709 I would disagree it would get Achilies as it can destroy a world. We have seen in Zero he could not kill rider with one use of Enuma while in the reality marble, which itself counts as a world. As such Achilles can survive one hit. Gilgamesh is absurdly powerful and the only way Achillies can win is in the duel arena. However I do think his speed may give him enough of a edge to win.
@@kocashima Yes, but Gil would have to agree to the duel, and let's be honest. How would our green haired boy coax Gil into a duel with none of abilites or weapons. The only thing I can think is he pokes at Gil's pride to make him angerly accept the duel. Honest combat is just not in Gil's vocabulary.
I don't think Achilles would be invincible if Chiron wasn't part of the war. You said that most likely any weapon related to the gods would also be able to harm him. It would be difficult, but a smart master would have to locate a divine artifact for their servant to use on Achilles. The world should have a few either in a museum, in a private collection somewhere or perhaps in some mage institutions vault.
just finished the first part yay
When the people who showed up in the world created Akhilleus Cosmos were pointed out in this video I swear I heard my mind exploding
I just noticed Penthesilea like omg
*He will just throw a planet at your face and see how you will handle that* Dude i love your sense humor, you are the best XD
are u gonna do the servants of extra last encore
cuz i wanna know more
Do Chiron next, please?
honestly to enjoy fate you have to have a good understanding of the lore behind each servant
OH man I CANT WAIT FOR THE DUB
Is it weird that I find these videos much more enjoyable than the actual anime ...... no disrespect to the anime lol
GREAT! NOW I'LL PASS HISTORY CLASS!
It makes sense to fulfill Chirons dying wish, he was archilles mentor/lover.
Yeah I did noticed that the black faction looked weak. Even their saber doesn't look like he does too much damage and just like Achilles he has a weak spot. I feel like Vlad looks to be the most powerful on the black faction
vlad gets an enormous fame boost and even then he is the only guy who remotely poses a threat...even including vlad the entire black faction can be wiped out by karna and achilles
do you also have any plans in doing similar videos for fate zero servants????
1:00 The Greater Grail is the one giving the mana to all 3 servants of Red that served Shirou after he stole it, Shirou is just a link to it. Read the light novel
6:46 my favorite line of the whole video.
I feel as though gil is one of the few that could hard counter achilles (both have enough mana to go all out)
the property of not being able to heal the wounds caused by his spear only gets it, if he is summoned as a lancer
You have to do this series with fate zero and unlimited blade works PLEASE!!!
Huge reason why I had to summon for him on fgo.
Are you going to do this for other fate series as well or are you only sticking to fate aprocypha?
i think he will also do the fate/last encort
Federico Martens oooooh if we get last encore, that means Nero. Whoooooooo
UMU xD
Gilgamesh Lover To bad last encore anime sucked shit
It would be super fun to see achilles as shielder or lancer servant in fgo😂😂😂🤣🤣
i like him as my favorite demi-god of Greek 😁👏
It makes me wonder what it would’ve been like if bershurk and Chiron was on the same team with achilles
assasin are not for battle and if was moving trap can use stop moving or place il cant not move free
Will you do Last Encore when you run out of Apocrypha servants? Will you do this for other franchises like Violet Evergarden or Ancient Magus Bride?
Is it just crazy old me, or does anyone else think that Baymax from Big Hero 6 is vaguely similar Elias? Both are overpowered and they both have a ton to learn about humanity.
+Nathaniel Shaw, The Overclocked Thinker Probs gonna do last encore, but after I finish the apocrypha servants imma take a break to let some episode of encore to air. Itll also give me time to work on non-fate related videos
embraceyourinner tophat Early stages? Bruh the novel is almost at the half way point.
Anyone without divinity can’t hurt him, does that mean Goetia can’t hurt him.
Are you ready to cover the Fate last encore servants lmao
ashmazyn what does fate lore mean
Matthew U the origin of a given servant, grail war, exc..
ashmazyn thanks
I believe Achilles could take out Gilgamesh with his Op speed and close combat skills.
Enkidu hard counters him. Gil is so broken that the few servents that happen to be a threat have high divinity.
What happens if he deploys Ahkilleus Kosmos and his opponent responds by invoking a reality marble? Overlap or destruction?
no idea cosmos was destroyed
youre so awesomeeeeee
Can we get a series like this but for the other Fate series?🤔
this guy is basically super man from anime
Seria realmente bom se seus videos tivesem legenda em português ou ao menos um canal disposto a redublar isso
You keep saying that Achilles would be unstoppable in the war without Chiron, but you have to take into account that Achilles is used as the prime example when explaining why they have a system of hiding their identities. If you know who Achilles is, you know how to defeat them. If Vlad III fought him in Romania, he could easily get a strike on his heel. And if he couldn't reach his heel through his armor, all he has to do is touch him with the spear tip and create stakes in his foot, thus hitting the heel.
two conditions must be met to strike his heel and take away his immortality which is the strike should be powerful enough and it must be a Noble Phantasm
@@biologicalshinju9629 I know this is an old comment but where did you find this info?
@@biologicalshinju9629 that makes no sense his immortality is not on his heel its vulnerable , doesn't that mean anything with or without divinity that hits him there will take it away
Honest question, who wins gilgamesh or achilles?
So can we get a animation of Karna vs. Achilles?
I want to see Nobunaga use her Noble Phantasm, Three Thousand Worlds: Three Line Formation on Achilles
His shield meets eaa
I going to be sad if one of his "ascensions" in FGO didn't have his golden god-forged magic armor of his legend (the one Ajax comitted suicide bc he didn't was chosen to inherit it after Achilles death).
Interesting translations btw. It is normal greek language the NPs original names?
Me and my friends basically say that Achilles is apocrypha’s version of lancer from stay night.
Achilles was so op I was stumped on how the hell are they gonna get past this unit of a heroic spirit😂
So even if its not technicaly correct, Achilles has 2 Reality Marbles Noble Phantasms.
What is the name of the background sound ?
Show had to focus on the main characters. Plus a big cast. He did work. He was beast
Im sorry total newb here but why did achilles stop karna's attack if they sre in the same faction???
The power level’s on Apocrypha, let Gilgamesh like "the guy who throw things"..
Best rider in the show
Damn red fraktion is broke. Modred, Karna and Archilles
whats the name of the background music
The song between 3:50 and 5:10
“Unless you’ve got an anti world noble phantasm lying around, there’s no way you’re getting out of this barrier”.
Gilgamesh: EeeeeeeeAaaaaaaaa
yeah ok but do you have to hit only his heel? Pretty sure Balmung and Clarent are wide enough that if they hit Achilles directly they would hit all of him, including the heel. They wouldn't even need to know who he is
you have to hit his heel or hit him with a strong enough attack, a condition that both those NPs fill
Cu Chlainn vs achilles. I would want to see this battle.
Lol, Fate Apocrypha team balancing is broken
On the red faction we have:
- Mordred badass-version of king Arthur
- Karna, literally a god
- Archilles, Immortal
- Cat-woman? Her fight against Ruler was epic
I read in the history book than Balmung has true eter from the time of the god so he can actually hurt him, and i dont know if Clarent is a divine contruction to pass hes def, i willlike to see apocryha servants with normal masters
No he can't hurt Achilles, because at least in fate lore Balmung is no divine construct.
even in mythology Achilles is OPAF :P
So can atalanta kill him ? And isnt she related to the gods? And one of her noble phantasm fires an arrow to give a sign for the gods artemis and apollo to rain down thousands of arrow
Nah. The shield is Just bonkers. Atalanta has nothing that can counter that
a servant that needed about 7 minutes for just abilities and noble phantasms. geez is that op
Achilles shield vs Avalon?
Juha Bach. Aizen Sosuke. Madara Uchiha. And now Achilles of Red.
"How do you even win?"
Wasnt astolfo a rider of black then why did rider of red help him against karna who btw is archer of red
Wwwwwoooooo RWBY VID
How the Erick did he not win the war on his own?
i wonder who would win between Hercules (berserker) vs Achilles
Silver Clode nah, Herc archer could easily wipe the floor, but lack of motor skills and the fact that Achilles is so fucking fast means that Berserker herc has virtually no chance of hurting Achilles. Penthesilia is able to damage Achilles because of her legend I think.
viper stroke uh, Achilles is the second fastest servant. Yagyuu Munenori is faster parameter wise. it’s complete BS tho
Ok i think this fate version series is very op
So he’s noble phantasm is a bunch of domain expansion
Yay rwby
Just in time for the youtube finale
So when his heel recovers does he regain his immortality?
M a x no
What a treat it would be to have lived in the time of the so called God's & demigods..
Good thing Hektor wasn't summon in this war.
would get his ass beat
So the shield basically creates a reality marble+?
yes
Gilgamesh is basically Achilles' ultimate counter (except spear)
Well, Gilgamesh' divinity + the anti divine weapons in his treasury counters Achilles' protection. His Vimana is said to go fast as light and Ea is an Anti World making Achilles' shied useless. Basically, aside from using his spear Achilles is completely countered. I changed my comment by the way
Christian Espiritu his Vimana moves at the speed of thought
And dude why are you replying to yourself?
Achilles probably the second strongest servant of them all and is the most famous hero in greek mythology when he fought chiron he wasn’t serious he let chiron beat the shit out of him at the last part of the fight so that he can die with honor thats why chiron said hes grown this much
I would say he is the 3rd strongest right below First Hassan
So would Achilles trait of being Immune to everything tha isnt divine, mean he cant even be Killed by the grand assasin with his noble phantasm azrael ?
probably not
Yes he would get killed by Grand assassin