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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • im not stupid really! sometimes people think they have to have the latest and greatest stuff on there planter at great cost. and there are scores of folks that make the change at great cost but they do not look at what the savings on one product could actually cost them. I have and have heard of farmers having increased yields on point rows it doesn't decrease the yield in most cases unless your parallel to the rows then it will over crowd and decrease or just be mute. now id like to do a study on this to see if its really worth the investment for auto row shutoffs. my money is no its not but I could be wrong.

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  • @ronaldschultz1189
    @ronaldschultz1189 Год назад +3

    My experience with point rows in our sand is a 50 bu decrease. I think it was corn runs out of moisture. A lot of the time when rows crossed on end at 32000 that makes 64000 pops and down corn because stalks were too small and extra tall and went down. Just my experience on my farm. I love your videos and your experience. Keep them coming so we can watch.

  • @davidthorne2129
    @davidthorne2129 Год назад +7

    Hi from Australia Wes. I’ve farmed sheep and cattle all my life. Our cropping we did was to compliment the livestock - oats for winter grazing and grain for fattening. Also sowing pastures. Only couple times did we do cash cropping when it was better than stock. We did wheat and canola and did well even won some competitions. Corn out here is rare so I’m always fascinated about how it’s grown and you explain things so well Thank you so much Wes.

    • @mseetherh
      @mseetherh Год назад

      You’re so dumb Wes, why don’t you buy new stuff, it won’t ever break down or need serviced. Only a moron would farm with paid off equipment and spread their risk out. Making equipment payments is good for your bottom line duuuh!

  • @tbix1963
    @tbix1963 Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and videos.
    21:41 Best line of the video, “Right Will?, Right Daddy!!”
    He is definitely paying attention and hanging in every word you say. Wishing you and your family the best.

  • @JDseller1
    @JDseller1 Год назад

    Wes the way we look at our planters is cost per acre and the acres per day we can plant. We know how long the optimum window is for our area. The is usually about ten days split in the last of April and the first of May. So two planter covering 8500 acres need to average 425 acres each day. We are running 12 year old JD planters. We do have row shut offs and pneumatic down pressure. Both where bought used, so our cost was about a third of new cost. We have to plant the majority of our fields on contours, so the row shut offs paid for themselves in less than two years in just seed savings. The pneumatic down pressure has helped our stand counts and we have a more even emergence than we did with the HD down force springs. We added central fill this winter. That will speed our loading time up a lot, plus more acres between fills too. . This should help us save time too.
    We are growing about 10% each year. This is both custom work and rented crop ground for us. The trouble we are having is the next jump up in planter size would require us to invest in larger tractors to pull them in our hills. Adding an additional planter would require additional labor that we do not have. So we may have to look into the higher speed planters.
    Every farm in the US has different issues. It maybe soil type, available capital, the local labor supply, etc., etc. So nothing is a perfect fit for everyone. I like seeing other ideas. It is interesting to see what works and what does not work.

  • @richardjohnson5883
    @richardjohnson5883 Год назад +4

    You know what works best for your operation. Keyboard geniuses need to figure out that just because another channel they watch buys a new piece of equipment doesn’t mean everyone else has to.

  • @timaldrich875
    @timaldrich875 Год назад +11

    Your planter will be fine in good working order. We had a 7200 set up like yours back in the day and it did a great job. It is not maybe popular today but sometimes simpler is better. I think if anything having a big planter to get planted timely is more important than all the latest and greatest.

  • @letzrockitrite8469
    @letzrockitrite8469 Год назад +3

    And then there are those of us who are just super excited for you for achieving this new planter and are looking forward to see all of your successes this next year and for years to come... yes I don't give you information to help you specifically as Warren in Oregon can, since I don't farm but I'm still appreciative of what you do as a farmer AND as an individual ..... let everyone understand what's at stake in ag..... NO FARM...... NO FOOD .... I'm encouraged by you and can't believe that those who criticize can't do it to be a help.... Dad taught us "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything" yep... I was blessed to have a dad who cared enough to teach us kids to be respectful.

  • @BigTader
    @BigTader Год назад +4

    Wes I really enjoy watching your videos you and Andy at Framing fixing and fabrication are the real deal farmers that know how to work on your equipment.

  • @stevelutzke9600
    @stevelutzke9600 Год назад +7

    With only listening to a minute I already would say that the average person only has so much money to invest unless going into heavy debt. It’s easy to spend a million dollars on a combine or seeder, it’s much harder to pay that money back. More money invested the more return you need which means more ground and then more people and it keeps on going. Not easy these Days finding people that want to work much less when working on a farm that runs 7 days a week. Wes looks at how he runs his farm from a perspective of how and when he can afford to invest and what provides him with the returns he wants to see. Watching Millennial Farmer last year and all the issues trying to keep his planter running is a good example. When it works great….. a lot of the time the KISS mentality has its place. I grew up on my grandpa’s farm old school, he never purchased anything new and supported a family with 7 children.

  • @randycarpenter2914
    @randycarpenter2914 Год назад +1

    I like watching because I learn from someone who does. Not someone who speculates about doing. I don't farm and don't know so I can learn. When I was a child, my grandfather farmed a very small amount to feed cattle in winter. I also remember three large gardens that put food on the table all summer and caned enough to put food on the table all winter. We didn't go to the store except for flour and a little sugar and salt. So I like to learn and Wes has much knowledge. Keep teaching, and many will listen and learn. The real bottom line is Return On Investment. If ROI is low or losing, you have a problem. God bless your crops and family.

  • @justinhill1857
    @justinhill1857 Год назад +3

    I bought a planter a couple years ago with v drives, clean sweep, and delta force. Love how it all works together and the adjustability from the cab on the fly. With that said I believe your planter will work fine and do the job just fine. Coming from my old planter the biggest thing I hated about it was the spring down pressure. You'd get into spots on the same pass where it was putting too much down pressure and then spots not enough where the delta force (hydraulic down force) takes all the variability out and does a much better job. If I was to have my old planter back the delta force is the only thing I'd put on it.

  • @Mike-yl6bs
    @Mike-yl6bs Год назад

    Wes your the only person I’ve ever heard say what I’ve been saying for years at the end of the day corn is still going to sale for the same price doesn’t matter if it was planted with $500.000 planter or a $5000. Planter most people don’t realize that and if you continue with the cover crop advantage at some point you want even need the down pressure springs you added because the ground will so alive and mellow !!! I’ve saw people plant in cover crop that’s been doing it for years with planters from the 60’s and have missing and broken down pressure springs and get a picket fence stand !!! Keep up the fine work...👍👍

  • @drdulas5055
    @drdulas5055 Год назад +10

    I watch and follow a number of farmers from all around our World. Some farmers are capable to overhaul their engines in their farm equipment and some do not know or capable to changing their own oil or a light bulb on the equipment. My feeling the haters are either jealous or actually mad at themselves because they can't or will not do what you do. Anyone remember what the Millennial Farmer went through last season sitting in his fields and he couldn't even get his tractor to run because of his planter and all the times he had to have a serviceman come to his rescue? I would rather be indendent from a tech person and expense and be able to fix something myself.

    • @curren5171
      @curren5171 Год назад +2

      Although that’s true about being independent, when your planter is full of improperly working technology, the scope of knowledge only goes so far before the service man needs to bring a part out, like a sensor.

  • @robertwindisch394
    @robertwindisch394 Год назад

    I put those RK closing wheel kits on my 7000 about 10 years ago and I love the way they work

  • @jamesjohnson5640
    @jamesjohnson5640 Год назад +3

    I completely agree with you. What I've seen myself with family and renters, is that most people only save approx 1 to 2 days of time with all the new upgrades on older planters. But it did not significantly increase their yield over 1650 acres. They had electronics issues, pneumatic issues, placement issues still. They forgot the numer one rule. Keep it simple stupid. Simple is easy to fix and overcome. Complex is costly and time consuming. I fix airplanes now and complex is always costly.

  • @archiegillard1805
    @archiegillard1805 Год назад

    Another quality, educational informative video. I have bought aged implements and rebuilt them. No electronics involved though. :) All paid. No debt.. Thank you for sharing.

  • @petersenpartsled2985
    @petersenpartsled2985 Год назад +4

    I had the heavy duty down pressure springs like you have. Keep in mind I'm conventional tillage, but with full 3 bushel boxes I had way too much down pressure with the weight of the seed in the boxes and the springs. I bought a used set of up/down air bags for less than half what the new heavy duty springs cost. Then another $3500 for the compressor and control box. That said, the thing people forget is every area is different. That was just my experience.

  • @DEDBRD-di4yj
    @DEDBRD-di4yj Год назад

    Would be interesting to see a new fully loaded out planter against an older planter with simple options and see what kind of difference there is .

  • @rickycrews4172
    @rickycrews4172 Год назад +3

    Keep up the good work. I have tried your way of farming to combat high prices of fertilizer and so forth and it works great my end costs puts more money in the bank

  • @iafarmer
    @iafarmer Год назад +3

    I know things are different for you than things for me in iowa so take my experience with a grain of salt, but i was amazed with what clutches did for me. I have quite a few point rows so i put row clutches on my 12 row last year, bought the parts used from a place in Missouri for about 450 per row. Planted 500 acres of corn and saved 17 bags so i figure they paid for themselves in 1 year just on seed corn not to mention beans. On my yield monitor i usually see 100 bushels less where the corn is doubled up, mainly because it goes flat or you dont get it all in the head.( Til i had a monitor i would have never guessed that high) So if you figure the 17 bags i saved it was about 40 acres i didn't double up which would be about 4000 bushels × $6= $24,000 you could potentially figure they made just on corn. Looks like your getting it up in good shape 👍

  • @llyodreeves4657
    @llyodreeves4657 Год назад +5

    Keep up the good work love watching you on RUclips

  • @jaydee125b5
    @jaydee125b5 Год назад +2

    This is way I like your channel and Northern Farmer. Because you can show that you can do a lot of work with older equipment

  • @williamorman4779
    @williamorman4779 Год назад +2

    Wes,just remember when you go to sleep ,rest assured your equipment is paid for, you dont worry about the loan people calling you,

  • @redeemedfarmer2670
    @redeemedfarmer2670 Год назад

    YOU do a fantastic job, I’ve been following you for years and I am amazed how skilled you are….congratulations to you 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @kennethjohannsen4091
    @kennethjohannsen4091 Год назад

    For a farmer, you hit the nail on the head!! We had a company that did no-till planting. First loaded JD 16 row planter in central Ks. We cover about 22,000 acres a year. You will be fine!! The only comment I will make to you is "ROI" return on investment. That should explain the difference between an 80K planter and an 550K. Keep ALL of your money and do your best. Good LUCK!!

  • @d6joe
    @d6joe Год назад +2

    A lot of the planter goodies help maintain accuracy with higher speeds. I have the same factory down pressure springs you put on. Works fine at the lower planting speeds I do. But I do like the individual row clutches in my narrower fields with 1/2 mile long rounds. I went from a 1991 12 row 30” 3 point deere 7300 planter to a dozen year old Deere 16 row 1770nt 2 years ago.

  • @lawrencelacenski9781
    @lawrencelacenski9781 Год назад +3

    I haven’t watched the video all the way through yet and I do agree with your opening statement my biggest problem with advanced technology is the annual subscription that some technology requires.
    I will continue watching this video, always love your content

  • @elliotbenson164
    @elliotbenson164 Год назад +2

    I made the comment. Sorry I didn’t finish my story. I liked my older planter that had the old style springs that bolted on the parallel arms. My old planter had 2 from the factory I put 4 on each row and loved it. I then traded planters for one that has 2x2 fertilizer because it was cheaper to trade at the time then add the 2x2 fertilizer. The planter I traded for and still have has the HD springs like you are installing. My issue with them on the highest setting seems too much down force and backed off one setting is not enough. I struggle with depth consistently. I no till and run cover crop like you. Wasn’t trying to pick on you hope you have better luck then I have had.

    • @onelonleyfarmer
      @onelonleyfarmer  Год назад

      thank you now I know.i can see that big jump from 250-450 could be a problem on the depth gauge wheels and bearings. I am in stony clay on a lot of farms so I like to put the pressure to the ground. so it gets in as fast as possible. the sander soils I can back it off but the 7000 didn't have this option so it was full pressure all the time so I can imagine it might never get changed on this one ether.

    • @elliotbenson164
      @elliotbenson164 Год назад

      @@onelonleyfarmer right or wrong, I spent the money on automated downforce this winter. Find out in a few weeks I guess. I just have an eight row and it was a lot couldnt imagine what it would be for a 24

  • @watchvideos9104
    @watchvideos9104 Год назад

    I agree with you Wes ,when it come to electronics, Everything is good till it’s not, it’s kinda like the tortuous and the hare , I’ve seen a 40$ sensor cost days of down time! when the old way would of just kept going , slower but still going

  • @derekkienzle2582
    @derekkienzle2582 Год назад

    A lot of guys complain about that style down pressure springs, but I always liked them because they were easy to adjust. carry on

  • @wayoutwestranch2987
    @wayoutwestranch2987 Год назад

    Hey Wes, I farmed and ranched for 40 years. Your one of the few channels I see that has profit with low debt load, People dont understand that to justify high tech and newer equipment it calls for large acres to farm, I like how you operate. The younger gen. only knows payments payments and dont understand cost effective operating

  • @deerezilla7013
    @deerezilla7013 Год назад +1

    I used to have a
    Planter just like that did 1000 acr for my self and 3000 for customers all stock jd parts back in the late 90s pulled it with a 4840 at first then a 8100 that I thought I died and went to heaven with that upgrade. Even had dual disc openers for Fertlizer on the front. Every place I planted it looked like a picket fence.
    Why I did very good maintenance on it planted under 5mph. I don’t see the need to over complicate it.
    Don’t worry about the keyboard farmers that thing will work every day in planting season.

  • @BornRandy62
    @BornRandy62 Год назад +1

    there is a somg on the radio that plays about the time deer season opens every year. you tube will have it. Called The Turdy Point Buck. Bauer industries in Paton Iowa is only about 12 miles away. Bauers have a agreement with a local farmer to do field tile work so he comes up this way to plant a bunch of ground in exchange. So we hear people come up and say . Did ya see the 48 rower? The 48 rower. The 48 row planter. Big equipment is all around us. I still used 6 and 12 row 30 inch planters. The neighbor was using 24 and 48 row 30 inch planters.

  • @craighinshaw2437
    @craighinshaw2437 Год назад +1

    Dawn makes two diffent roller system , first goes infront of row units and pushes cover crops into row. 2 one is design to roll in row after crop is up at say sideddressing time

  • @danw6014
    @danw6014 Год назад +2

    I think the technology is absolutely amazing. What scares me is that it's seems to be being used against us. When your refrigerator is listening to you or your phone sends you commercials based on your phone conversations, that what I don't like. The other big problem to me is trouble shooting problems. I've never been computer savvy but I can usually coble mechanical things together and make it work.

  • @southpawred7172
    @southpawred7172 Год назад +2

    Your comments about point rows makes a lot of sense 👍👍

  • @autocat9371
    @autocat9371 Год назад

    I totally rebuilt my 1996 JD 1780 8 row corn planter over 5 years ago. I did it over a 2 year period. I splurged on the pro shaft drives because i hate to oil those metering chains. I refurbished the parallel arms with the precision bushing rebuild kit and it was great to see the hoppers go straight up and down.I also did the copperhead closing wheel frame bushings. Good luck on your rebuild

  • @m.webber5118
    @m.webber5118 Год назад +2

    I farm too. If your stupid, I’m really dumb! AMEN Wes, tech is good If it pays for it self. So it starts paying me!

  • @douglaskerr6813
    @douglaskerr6813 Год назад +4

    I don't know about farming but it seems to me the K.I.S.S. method seems to work the best if you can
    Fix it yourself and do it cheaper and keep more in money in your pockets

  • @dave2138
    @dave2138 Год назад

    Nice looking planter Wes, hope it gives you a trouble free season!

  • @jeremygrubb1434
    @jeremygrubb1434 Год назад

    Wes on buying the corn in bulk is a good way to go we done it for years with the boxes what we did since don’t see the big money for a sead tinder we took a corn wagon put a auger on it and had long hydraulic hoses ran from wagon auger to the planter tractor just back up to it and take all the lids off and fill the boxes lot of people said that was crazy are set up was but saved money on seed like you said when you buy it in bulk plus didn’t have to mess with them crazy bags and one person could fill with that wagon quicker than 3 with bags plus one person doing it less stress and just fix some hooks on the wagon keep tarps on it so it doesn’t get wet or blow out while pulling it down the road and on the auger we used a peace of black drain pipe so you could keep it close to the boxes and the auger had a hand winch so you could pick it up and down

  • @aoverhage5181764
    @aoverhage5181764 Год назад +1

    We need to get a little sweeper to go on the back of Will's trike. Clean up the shop as he goes!

  • @randypattyson6982
    @randypattyson6982 Год назад +1

    Wes, back in the spring of 2020, Andy Horrigan of farm fixing and fabricating used his 24 row jd planter With emty corn box wrote the letters Trump 2020 in the side hill of a large field . my opinion thats worth the extra 50,000 for row shut offs. It came out perfect..keep up the great videos.

  • @stuartsplace100
    @stuartsplace100 Год назад

    i do not know much about corn planters Wes,but i like what u are doing.i have worked on many farms here in Vermont,but not one with a corn planter like u are restoring

  • @bryanginder5903
    @bryanginder5903 Год назад

    The front of them planters have never lifted high enough, I've tore closing weeks off before getting in and out of fields if you don't watch it. Your thought of lowering them arms are a good idea and definitely will help! Them springs you put on will work just fine my neighbor has them on his 6 row and he likes them, I still have the old double springs on the parallel arms and they work but not adjustable.

  • @michaeljones34
    @michaeljones34 Год назад

    Great video and good looking planter I can’t wait to see it in action Wes keep up the good work

  • @ginggur17
    @ginggur17 Год назад +1

    You will cover some acres with that set up Wes. 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸

  • @ashlandgunclub1000
    @ashlandgunclub1000 Год назад +1

    I absolutely love it when one sensor shuts you down and you can’t bypass it then you find out it will be a week to get a replacement. Ain’t technology grand sometimes.

  • @mcdowellfarm23
    @mcdowellfarm23 Год назад

    Sir..I applaud you..I loved your testimony..I'm a simple farmer too..great video..

  • @rawfarms2790
    @rawfarms2790 Год назад +1

    On my 12 row I had issues with high centering in some fields I put a chain on every folded row. Then before I folded it I could hook chain and raise row unit a lot more. Only needed on a couple fields to get in so it wasn’t a terrible thing to do. 2 bolts and a chain wasn’t expensive and did the job

  • @alanmcclusky
    @alanmcclusky Год назад +2

    You do OK my friend anyone with common sense can see that regards Alan and Ella from the UK yeah.

  • @Ebuck41
    @Ebuck41 Год назад

    Used them for years do a fine job is nice to be able to adjust the air or hydraulic from the cab though.

  • @maximush9811
    @maximush9811 Год назад

    In our area it is the opposite. Eks if this tells you anything there is still Milo planted around. Point rows are 25-30% less. We do have a yield monitor. I think it could be to many plants (60)k 30k other wise and mother nature . Are corn silage on the other hand we do get a better tonnage Just not as much corn per ton. We have a 2600 and don't use coulter's on the front just a double disc for mostly no-till. Thanks I do like seeing what works for others.

  • @darrellrobinson5742
    @darrellrobinson5742 Год назад

    I would like to see side by side compared I totally agree with you most important thing is seed to soil contact an many forget cold germ an germ in general cant grow if it don’t grow

  • @jefflarson2490
    @jefflarson2490 Год назад +1

    Simple means it can be fixed with a welder or bypassed or just ignored out right and keep planting I run a kinze 8 row 3500

  • @farmershelper6203
    @farmershelper6203 Год назад

    You got your way they got their way. Should be no farmer telling another farmer how to farm his land. Thanks for sharing with us

    • @onelonleyfarmer
      @onelonleyfarmer  Год назад +2

      I didn't tell anyone how to do anything. im just putting a thought in some farmers heads. nobody is looking at the facts that $6.00 corn from a $350,000.00 planter is still $6.00 corn from a 30,000.00 planter and will it pay of in the life of those planters? some of these planters are over $500K now. just the interest on that planter if you don't buy it outright is staggering.

    • @farmershelper6203
      @farmershelper6203 Год назад

      No sir you did not tell them how to farm their land. I should have done better with my comment. No one should be telling you how to form your land or rebuild your equipment. I will never Put a negative comment up about you you are a good man

  • @robwar2288
    @robwar2288 Год назад +1

    We Ran a 24 Row 1 Spring without Shut offs. Never again. It was $24,000 for the Clutches.

  • @wvrockcrusher
    @wvrockcrusher Год назад +2

    I agree that there's nothing wrong with technology as long as the bottom line shows the difference and the worth of it. I really don't care if the corn looks better in the field or not, it's the yield and quality that matters most which equals cash in my pocket. Spending all that money on the conversion doesn't make sense to me. Spend the money on the meat and potatoes of the planter, like you're doing, to make it work as good as it possibly can and what works for your situation, because not everyone can use or afford the same cookie cutter machine. Some folks just insist on stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. Just my experience with planting corn.

  • @jeremyswindell2330
    @jeremyswindell2330 Год назад

    Nice planter Wes , 😁

  • @Geeves8612
    @Geeves8612 Год назад +1

    I have nothing to go off but the other channels but if you look at how many issues they have regards to sensors, computer issues and just general stress due to technology you have to wonder sometimes if it's all worth it. Yes the technology to shut off using gps on mapped fields so you can go over water ways is quite something but only if it's working properly. You'll soon know if there's corn growing in your waterways if not lol. I'm very interested to see how everyone does this year especially Wes. Always be my top Farming channel.

    • @onelonleyfarmer
      @onelonleyfarmer  Год назад +1

      the therapist is not cheap ether. all that stress can put you over the edge.

  • @jeremymaschke8654
    @jeremymaschke8654 Год назад +3

    There's nothing wrong with old equipment. If it worked years ago with a few minor upgrades they can still be good equipment.

  • @peterwardle572
    @peterwardle572 Год назад +1

    I think what you are talking about is 'KISS' technology, ie 'Keep it Simple Stupid, if it works don't get more complicated just for the sake of technology.

  • @oz8abr
    @oz8abr Год назад

    Very wise words!

  • @jkmcp45
    @jkmcp45 Год назад

    I agree 100 percent I understand what your saying about tech I get high speed planters cause when you’re looking at 4 - 5000 acres every second counts and another thing I don’t understand is how a piece of equipment gets 5000 plus hrs is a lot and it needs to be traded off

  • @Neeko_110
    @Neeko_110 Год назад

    Its called return on investment.....And now that companies are doing planned obsolescence in products and they are designed to fail you have to factor that in to your choices....A 1945 milwaukee drill i have still works ............show me a milwaukee drill now that's lasted 10 year............ but now companies are "green" by adding more broken products to the landfill...but i digress... a good rule of thumb is the warranty the company offers and that's usually when the product fails. If it can't pay for itself within the warrantees period i pass...........factoring in occam's razor into the mix....i agree 100%

  • @PaulLooney-dw5ze
    @PaulLooney-dw5ze Год назад

    Love the videos keep up the great work. I’ve been watching for years and never miss a video. Great keep it up and can’t wait to see what’s up next.

  • @dknust9
    @dknust9 Год назад

    I always figured for a farmer with lots of odd shaped fields that the row shutoffs would pay off with seed savings. In big square fields it wouldn’t pay but in our small odd shaped fields it would pay off faster.

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 Год назад

    When you mentioned swapping over solid closing wheels for spike wheels, hang on to your old wheels. Some of the folks planting into standing cover (which provides better seed placement and more uniform emergence than rolling the cover down before planting) had a lot of cover wrapping problems with spike wheels and went back to solid wheels. Conventional tillage guys sometimes run a solid and spike pair. Not sure what the new spike wheels cost you but I'd experiment by keeping a few rows scattered across one half of the planter with the opposite of what you run on the rest of the planter, just as test strips. If it matters you'll see the strips this summer.

    • @onelonleyfarmer
      @onelonleyfarmer  Год назад

      I used the furrow cruisers last year and they where fine.

  • @petenolte4192
    @petenolte4192 Год назад

    It's old school thinking because no one row cultivates so the extra plants are not getting destroyed. I'm going to enjoy seeing this corn planter in action

  • @TwoHappyChildrenFarm
    @TwoHappyChildrenFarm Год назад +1

    I forgot to add, new chain idlers that don't let the chain slip out as well. Good insurance.

  • @mikeznel6048
    @mikeznel6048 Год назад +1

    I think it really adds up if and only if you have masses upon masses of acres to plant. Especially if it’s spread through out a bunch of smaller lots which ends up meaning lots of headlands or odd shaped fields. Just speculation though. I like the way you do things Wes and the way you think and speak. If only more people went about life the way you think and do.

  • @nfordf450
    @nfordf450 Год назад

    Yep. Used to double rows on our point rows or head land whatever you want to call it the whole way around the field by eye with a 6 row planter. Got higher yields there. But we did it to prevent deer from going to the middle of the field and eat everything as the corn made it’s own fence. No point in saving seed and losing it all my uncle said back then when I asked why one day throwing 50 lb bags from the truck to the planter. Think that was the best answer I ever got as many others did the same in the 90s.

  • @CumminsCat
    @CumminsCat Год назад

    Keep up the good work OLF. 👍

  • @cheddar3650
    @cheddar3650 Год назад

    Looking forward to see it out in the field

  • @samuelscragg7052
    @samuelscragg7052 Год назад

    I’m amazed at how people can criticize you for rebuilding a thirty year old planter. My thoughts are that they don’t have the knowledge or ability to do this type of project. Yes they can farm hook up the implements to tractors and take off. As far as understanding how it works they don’t. And technology will save their butts. However let that technology break on them and there they set waiting on the dealership to send a repairman. The fewer moving parts and the less electrical components the least problems. Point rows are best figured out how best to deal with them on your terms not someone else. Until I figured them out I would always run short on fertilizer. But in that point was a healthier growth. By the very fact that your not “buying new planter” you are already ahead of the game. Just like you stated at the end your crop sells at the elevators for the same amount of money as the truck in front of you and behind you.

  • @tjknust
    @tjknust Год назад

    Wes I don't think I've ever commented on here, but I have to tell you that planter of yours is a poster child for row shut offs. You're going to save way more than 10 bags of seed especially with small weird-shaped feels like I think you have. To say nothing of combining a point row nightmare. And yield maps will prove to you that you are losing yield in point rows you're not getting anything extra, plus you're knocking more down anyway.

  • @Tony95E
    @Tony95E Год назад

    I ran two JD planters all with those down pressure springs they work perfectly.. only issue was if you ran over a hidden rock it broke the arms of but replace an off you go again 👍

  • @suzanneharris278
    @suzanneharris278 Год назад

    You and I would get along just fine, you think then do and it works just fine! Keep the videos coming! And you're not stupid!

  • @sikinboat
    @sikinboat Год назад

    Big thing everyone forgets is the old KISS principle keep it simple stupid. As nice as the new planters are when they have a little issue it becomes a pain. if you saw Millenial farmer last year was having connection issues on the planter and at times was shut down having to wait on the service guys to get there to get it back running as it wouldn't let him plant. That planter looks good and while possibly not as efficient as a new one its paid for and will plant with minimal issues for years to come.

  • @JohnypopnA
    @JohnypopnA Год назад +1

    Love the old John Deere sweatshirt!

  • @joeramirez1872
    @joeramirez1872 Год назад

    Wes , the truth hurts and boy you make it sting. Your very smart , and tell it like it is. Thumbs up

  • @wilco300674
    @wilco300674 Год назад +1

    Some people need a normal celphone to call and others seem to be unable without the most expensive iphone or Samsung etc.. there lies the problem.. gadget freaks don't urn money, they only pay for things that do not matter at all..

  • @brittfarms2018
    @brittfarms2018 Год назад

    your way makes more sense to your operation.. i prefer your method over the others.. when you pay that much for the parts and do it yourself, you save alot of money over those that gets all that electronics, due to most will still have to have and pay a certified dealer to come out and install and setup everything..i prefer to watch self doers over a channel that depends all on a dealer to do the repairs..to me you utilize your money better and maintain your equipment better when you do stuff yourself cuz you put in the physical labor to do the work im a self doer and your learn so much more when you do stuff yourself ... keep up the good work and videos..

  • @OxAO
    @OxAO Год назад +2

    Wes is funny. He knowing or unknowingly likes to bait people to say something stupid. Yet so far no one took the bait but me! ha

  • @ncpanther
    @ncpanther Год назад

    Absolutely enjoy your view point and outlook on farming. With this potential war and inflation you are way better off not being completely depended on tech! That 7200 can plant just as good as anything else. The only thing tech wise that is a game changer on planters is the 20/20 monitor and bullseye/ wavevision seed tube. It will make you get out the cab and dig like you should already do and micro manage your planter. It's called bottom line farming for profit not show and tell. Not sure if you seen them but what's your thoughts on prescription tillage opener blades for planters in notill/cover crop planting?

  • @farming4g
    @farming4g Год назад +1

    There's a balance between mechanical/electrical/hydraulic. Some electronic controls are nice to make tasks easier or adjustments, but does it make it too expensive or complicated?
    The direction of ag technology has me concerned... I really don't like the whole autonomous push that's coming. Operating equipment is the most fun for farming - if that goes away I think I'm retiring. 😂

  • @stephenkennedy9322
    @stephenkennedy9322 Год назад +1

    If a guy spent + $500,000.00 on a New Precision Planter they don't want to feel Stupid/foolish for spending $ on something that does the Job like Your Beautiful 30 year old planter. So rather than admit they are WRONG they criticize you so they don't feel butt hurt while planting. Sure new is awesome great technology save time speeds 15 mph etc etc bells n whistles. Bottom line is cost vs profit. Some farms can afford new. You save extra money next 20 years keep doing what you are doing Wes.
    When you are gone Will can buy a newer planter and hopefully not Brand New.😅

  • @rongrose3746
    @rongrose3746 Год назад +1

    Yes, bottom line is the only thing that is important!!

  • @ivorsmyth6168
    @ivorsmyth6168 Год назад +1

    I injoy your video s

  • @jeffbute8431
    @jeffbute8431 Год назад +1

    Fun videos but sometimes painful

  • @darrellnichols6179
    @darrellnichols6179 Год назад +1

    IMO. If they are seeing 50 bpa more in the point rows, they Probably need to increase their population a little. If the population is at optimum for fertility, the point rows shouldn’t see that much of an increase. But on dry land it’s all subjective for the season.

  • @jankotze1959
    @jankotze1959 Год назад +1

    Good video and explanation

  • @terryaldridge5311
    @terryaldridge5311 Год назад

    Keep the faith Wes farmers have always had to figure out what works an is affordable. It’s not always the newest most updated version! Clearly folks were farming before all these upgrades! It’s the bottom line that counts!

  • @jakeridley856
    @jakeridley856 Год назад

    Hey Wes love the video use to work on a farm driving a truck in a corn field

  • @joeyouruncle9850
    @joeyouruncle9850 Год назад

    For my situation best as I can gather and geuse it would be a 3 year to payback for my 6 row planter to get a used system installed

  • @Greg_Gatsby
    @Greg_Gatsby Год назад +2

    Dang, Wes. I wanted to see your aunt. I think the last time I saw her was when you hooked a motion sensor to an air tank filled with water and air pressure to spray anyone who got too close, such as your aunt while she was cutting grass. You survived her wrath but I suspect there was a price you paid for your creativity. I don’t recall how well the invention kept deer away. 😂 👍

  • @calebchristensen6730
    @calebchristensen6730 Год назад +1

    It must be different here because in the double planted point rows the corn tips over and the yield is cut in half. We just took off the heavy down pressure springs and put on air bags, the springs worked great we are just looking for a bit more fine adjustments. And the air bags are old technology now they are almost giving them away lol. How much did you have to give for the new springs? Too bad we could have given you a screaming deal on 24 used ones lol.

  • @markhicks9545
    @markhicks9545 Год назад +2

    I think what your trying to get at is its OK to spend money but spend wise to gain profit

  • @dewainwoodard4840
    @dewainwoodard4840 Год назад

    Lol great video Wes thanks for sharing have a great day and stay safe out there

  • @richardhorner4799
    @richardhorner4799 Год назад

    Wes, there was a guy years ago in IN that built and sold a two point "elevator" hitch? His problem was crossing RR tracks with a planter like yours. I believe there were several articles on it in FarmShow.