Appreciate the videos on this. Getting back into SC after a long hiatus and there isn't much up to date info. The Vanguard line was my first love in the game. Good to see its still kicking butt!
I mostly fly the ships which i just like most. Even when they are not as good as other ships. So my favorites ships are not always the best choice for PVE. But one of my favs which is also one of the best will be in the video that comes tomorrow ( Hint: Ares Inferno). But to answer your question: The Vanguard was through the years always a good PVE ship - often the best one. And i like to fly it. So yes Vanguard. The F7A of course but also i love the Santok'Yai to fly. Another example is the Arrow, while i would not consider it as a good PVE ship currently, it is just fun und so i do VHRT also with that ship atm. The F8C Lightning is strong, the Corsair of course (but i dont fly it often - its boring ... but of course good )
It felt off to me when i used mine, shields are nerfing ballistic damage more, so when i changed to the mvsa guns to lower shields and then used ad5b it killed them way quicker.
If you use AD5B you dont need to kill the shield. With full ballistic you go directly to the hull - and Deadbolt 5 because the weapon speed is 1100 which matches the 1200 of the CSVA better than the 900 of AD5B
S5 torps are not fine. they need about 80% more damage across the board, and they need to not ruin their minimum range and speed like they are about to in the test mode.
Think about what happend when you buff S5 torps with 80% more damange. You have to buff EMP otherwise and the Vanguard Warden needs another impactfull buff than also. Or the Harbinger would need a nerf with smaller guns. Because if you buff the S5 torps with 80% more damage than they do now - there will be *no* reason to buy a Warden. They are in a good state at 0:40 i killed a Conny with 2 torps. I tested the current live torps not the ones on PTU. My ship tests are exclusive on the current LIVE status - of course stuff can change and sometimes for the worse.
@@joronasc first of all you killed an already red, not maneuvering, probably soft deathed conny with shields down using 2 torps thats not a good example.. if anything it supports what i said. considering we have 30% of the damage eaten by shields and another 50% eaten by generic hull damage reductions before anything actually sticks to the target, not much tbh. it will still take 2-3 S5 torps AFTER the buff to the SAME hull section of a conny to kill it, and considering they are suppose to be Torpedoes not marshmallows, yes they need the buff. you dont have to buff EMP at all wtf are you talking about? Missiles are in very limited supply, dont work 90% of the time or get decoyed, or simply out maneuvered (which will get worse when this new update hits) if all the stars and the moons alilign you should do heavy damage. again you would still need to hit a conny sized target 2x to the exact same spot to knock it out. currently you have to hit all 4 which never happens. torps are useless.
@@TheAngriestGamer. The conny was not red. Starting from 0:22 its a fresh spawn of an VHRT Conny. First hit on 0:33 - than it was red after the torp hit - killed at 0:44. And i dont know what you talking about. You say its 1 of 10 torps hit in PVE? As long as you fire at ships of conny size i would guess its about 6 / 10 will hit ( thats about my experience, maybe i record a video about it ). And the Harbinger is still a Vanguard with alot of gun firepower - its not a Torpedo / Missile boat with reduced gun power to balance things out.
I am sorry, but i think the Reliant Tana will not be on my list. I had to buy it ingame, and the tana would be a ship that i do fly only once for making the video - and for 1 video its too much grind for me. I am sorry
![Aegis Vanguard Harbinger - Squadron Battle - Full Match - GVSR/Galdereen - Star Citizen [3.23.1a]](/img/1.gif)
I've had it for a long time good all round ship
Now there is a warbound promotion for Harbinher, im glad to see not old Video that test it.
Appreciate the videos on this. Getting back into SC after a long hiatus and there isn't much up to date info. The Vanguard line was my first love in the game. Good to see its still kicking butt!
The Vanguard is through the years always kinda good. Sometimes awesome, sometimes good, sometimes okay - but never really bad. So a safe bet ;-)
Exactly the info I was looking for, thanks! I decided that I want one, too. Now where do I get those 11 million from
Nice. Which two of the 3 ships would you chose to do bounties/space combat stuff:
Hornet F7a MkII, Vanguard, Corsair?
Thanks, keep it up!
I mostly fly the ships which i just like most. Even when they are not as good as other ships. So my favorites ships are not always the best choice for PVE. But one of my favs which is also one of the best will be in the video that comes tomorrow ( Hint: Ares Inferno).
But to answer your question:
The Vanguard was through the years always a good PVE ship - often the best one. And i like to fly it. So yes Vanguard.
The F7A of course but also i love the Santok'Yai to fly.
Another example is the Arrow, while i would not consider it as a good PVE ship currently, it is just fun und so i do VHRT also with that ship atm.
The F8C Lightning is strong, the Corsair of course (but i dont fly it often - its boring ... but of course good )
Should I CCU my Warden to this? So tempting…
Balisitcs is for dps perfect, but everytime that restock is crap
It felt off to me when i used mine, shields are nerfing ballistic damage more, so when i changed to the mvsa guns to lower shields and then used ad5b it killed them way quicker.
If you use AD5B you dont need to kill the shield. With full ballistic you go directly to the hull - and Deadbolt 5 because the weapon speed is 1100 which matches the 1200 of the CSVA better than the 900 of AD5B
S5 torps are not fine.
they need about 80% more damage across the board, and they need to not ruin their minimum range and speed like they are about to in the test mode.
Think about what happend when you buff S5 torps with 80% more damange.
You have to buff EMP otherwise and the Vanguard Warden needs another impactfull buff than also.
Or the Harbinger would need a nerf with smaller guns.
Because if you buff the S5 torps with 80% more damage than they do now - there will be *no* reason to buy a Warden. They are in a good state at 0:40 i killed a Conny with 2 torps. I tested the current live torps not the ones on PTU.
My ship tests are exclusive on the current LIVE status - of course stuff can change and sometimes for the worse.
@@joronasc first of all you killed an already red, not maneuvering, probably soft deathed conny with shields down using 2 torps thats not a good example.. if anything it supports what i said.
considering we have 30% of the damage eaten by shields and another 50% eaten by generic hull damage reductions before anything actually sticks to the target, not much tbh. it will still take 2-3 S5 torps AFTER the buff to the SAME hull section of a conny to kill it, and considering they are suppose to be Torpedoes not marshmallows, yes they need the buff.
you dont have to buff EMP at all wtf are you talking about? Missiles are in very limited supply, dont work 90% of the time or get decoyed, or simply out maneuvered (which will get worse when this new update hits) if all the stars and the moons alilign you should do heavy damage. again you would still need to hit a conny sized target 2x to the exact same spot to knock it out. currently you have to hit all 4 which never happens. torps are useless.
@@TheAngriestGamer. The conny was not red. Starting from 0:22 its a fresh spawn of an VHRT Conny. First hit on 0:33 - than it was red after the torp hit - killed at 0:44. And i dont know what you talking about. You say its 1 of 10 torps hit in PVE? As long as you fire at ships of conny size i would guess its about 6 / 10 will hit ( thats about my experience, maybe i record a video about it ).
And the Harbinger is still a Vanguard with alot of gun firepower - its not a Torpedo / Missile boat with reduced gun power to balance things out.
Will you do one on the Reliant Tana ? it is my favorite despite the shortcoming.
I am sorry, but i think the Reliant Tana will not be on my list. I had to buy it ingame, and the tana would be a ship that i do fly only once for making the video - and for 1 video its too much grind for me. I am sorry
What is your set up to fly like that ? do you have an HOTAS and another system on ?
Dual Stick and Pedals