The Ultimate $5,000 Apple Pro Display XDR Review!
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2020
- Apple's Pro Display costs $4,999 and doesn't include a stand but they herald it as a bargain. But is it? Snazzy Labs' host Quinn Nelson seeks professional advice in this Pro Display XDR Review.
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Apple announced the #6K #ProDisplayXDR alongside the new cheese-grater Mac Pro at WWDC 2019 in San Jose, California. After six months of waiting, it finally hit the market in December of 2019. Rather than rush and put a messy review up as soon as we could, we have spent the last 40 days with it putting it through its paces and seeing if it can really compete against the Sony, Eizo, vs Flanders Scientific monitors of the world. We break down the 6K resolution, connectivity issues, GPU limitations, the $1,000 monitor stand's strengths and weaknesses, the display panel's viewing angles, color accuracy, luminance, light rolloff, vignetting issues, HDR capabilities and alleged 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio. This review is a long one that's jam packed with content so sit back and enjoy! 
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When the thumbnail says 13:37 but the video is 13:36.. I see what you TRIED to do there, but RUclips had other plans.
I FEEL MEGA JIPPED
its youtube, it does it to every video
It's 13:37 for me.
On mobile it's 13:37
What’s the significance of 1337?
"Just an IPS with local dimming and all the problems that come with it." HDTVTest
Yes, that is true, but do you actually watch this video? Because he also mentioned the problem with this monitor near the end.
@@galihprabasidi8498 yeah in a wish washy way though as like he doesn't really want to upset Apple or something
Yeah I watched it, and there is a "pro" (freelancer) who already bought some of them trying to rationalise to us why you would need those. Then hes repeating over and over this would be a choice for mid size studios. But for this budget you got better options, dont you?
12"
@@jhanninnen thats a huge...dvd player!
I love the balance between hard figures/stats and the “this is basically what that means.” Solid review as always.
Thanks!
Brendan Murphy
not for noobs, creative people only!
I wish they made an updated version of the old Thunderbolt Display/ LED cinema display using a 4k or 5k imac screen.
GDR Riley I was hoping for that too. :(
Yeah I loved those displays, I don't even own a Mac anymore but I still use one at work with an adapter, the picture is excellent.
And they seem to work without a driver now in Windows, not sure what happened they just kinda... Suddenly did after an update (back in 2018 I think), now I can adjust the brightness/etc without Bootcamp installed.
@@datachu I used them daily at school for 3 years. I'm thinking about grabbing a used one for my video editor/GF. For about 200$ used they look to be a good deal
@@datachu This is good to know. Thank you for sharing this. (:
I’m not so sure..... There’ll be way too many nit pickers
Just wanted to say that your videos sound really great. Thanks for caring about sound!
That new lav finally got here! Gonna start using it this week. :)
Great video Quinn. It answered all my questions and some I didn’t know I had.
zollotech hey man. Love your videos. You should check out HDTV test video review of this monitor. The “pro” display still has all of the issues that come with IPS displays.
It's still mind-boggling to think that Snazzy doesn't have a million subs yet 🤯
Thank you for pointing that out. I noticed I wasn't subscribed (some how) but I fixed it.
Oh crap I didn't notice I wasn't subscribed. Fixed
snazzy if i didnt tell you man, you are one of my favorite
Drey Jay 🤗
Simply the best video about the XDR, period.
Just like with the Mac Pro videos, you manage to combine the facts everyone else is repeating in their videos with good and relatable insights. Top notch!
The LG panel alone costs 1500 USD for these.
I'd buy that, without the apple logo!
Great video! It’s nice seeing someone post something about this display and talk to an actual colorist and not just talk about how this is good for consumer level stuff.
This channel has good reviews, he's an Apple Fanboy, but he's honest
Keep up the good work!
He's less of an Apple fangirl than he use to be. I mean, some weeks back He talked about _Linux_ and discusses hackintoshes because even _he_ knows for most people who want to use Apple's OS, the hardware investment is a big pill to swallow that many, unsurprisingly can't.
With the indy-filmmaker market becoming so big, there is a shift away from those older brands that Denver mentions. I would say the closest feeling competitor to the Apple XDR would be some of the new Neon line of displays from Atomos. It is priced way less than those (of similar size), but the Neon line isn’t built specifically for Macs with a the ports and what not that the XDR has.
MKE Drones Good point and thank you.
asus has got the new pro art line that may have some close models.
And....ASUS which has also been killing it with mini LED 32" HDR monitors under $5000, with stand and matte finish at 4K.
This is certainly all beyond my practice and means. But many thanks for informing me and putting it in perspective. All very well said!
is the imac pro still worth buying
I find your video about the Stand so amazing that the first few seconds of this video made me go watch it again.
Facelessly Personal 😂
You probably can install the Bootcamp utility to non Apple hardware. I personally have it installed on my custom desktop computer, so that the old Apple keyboard I use with it can utilize the volume keys and have the correct keyboard layout. You can't trigger the installer by opening the normal file, but if you launch it as administrator using CMD (or one of the install scripts in the sub folders that contain all the drivers, can't remember how the process goes) the install script will just install Bootcamp utility without checking the hardware configuration.
This is fantastically informative video. Thanks, I learned a lot.
Thank you for this AMAZINGLY HONEST review! It helps a lot. Keep it up.
at 2 minutes the vertical slide down I was expecting a bottom piece like the all-in-ones.
Finally! Someone did a great video on "professional colour editor using this monitor" :D
Best reviewer ever. Always looking forward to your opinion. No matter how late it is compared to other you tubers
Whats the name of that screen saver he has playing in the background? I really like it, btw I'm using windows 10 :D
Hey Quin! What’s the best way to suggest a video topic?
You are a true tech nerd sir. I didn't understand half of the techno stat jargon you mentioned, but I enjoyed this video none the less. Great job Q
Yo snazzy, what are your thoughts on the state of the iPad and iPadOS? Assuming you even use an iPad
I love how I watch these crazy tech videos knowing damn well I have $30 in my accountv
Excellent review, Quinn! Thanks!
1:28 Snazzy sign on back wall looks like it says Spazzy, lol.
Were those clips taken in Morocco? Cool!
Snazzy, thank you for your work. Your sarcasm and irony joking style is funny but also very imformative.
Excellent as usual. On point.
Thanks, Danny!!
It's still slightly smaller than the 30 inch 16:10 Apple Cinema Display that I still use. Still a beautiful monitor all these years later. I got it for free, but in 2005 it must have been amazing, 1440p IPS in 2005. And it works perfectly with Windows!
This looks like a nice general purpose display, but isn't scaling not desirable when coloring (IE: you want native resolution of whatever the final output is)? Also, notice that when he mentions the FALD issues with star fields, we didn't see the monitor displaying star fields...
Extremely well composed review. Kudos!
Nice review video. Thanks for sharing. Watching from San Francisco.
which monitor arms are being used? They look like humanscales but which models are they? great vid
1:54
The main subject and whole video is about the displays but damn that cathode clock is dope af
Thanks for inviting Denver over! I learned color grading from his videos and courses and he is a true pro I’m his niche. Great video as always! Do you use a promoter?
Please review all the new Schiit that has come out. Would love see a review of that.
I’d be keen to see what other monitors peeps would/should consider.
Could this be compared to something like ASUS's Pro Art monitor line? Also i saw someone extract the Monitor Utility from the bootcamp driver installer that you can get on the Apple Website.
May I recommend a CFS Flo arm as an alternative VESA stand. It’s very good.
I’m not saying that I want to buy this monitor and the Apple stand, but if I did, I’d want $700 wheels on that stand. ,Amy people say Apple is too expensive, I say it’s not expensive enough. ;-)
Asus is releasing a new ProArt monitor soon to compete with the Apple’s Pro XDR. Will we get a video on the PA32UCG?
4K is too low res
Allan Sh No one would really see any difference. Meanwhile the Asus has double the local dimming as the Pro display and a refreshrate of 120 Hz with the same 1600 nits of peak brightness. It’s gonna be cheaper.
Nielsf2704
32 inch should have 8K. 6K is barely acceptable. 4K is way too low.
How close are you even sitting to your monitor? On a laptop I already don’t see any difference between 1080p and 4k. Most nowadays content is still at 4K. If you want 8K you should get the Dell Ultrasharp 8K monitor.
@@allansh828 Nah 6k and 8k are too low resolution, I need atleast 12k
Watching this video from my 12 years old philips 170s 5:4, it has a yellow line from top to bottom.
Does it work on a hackintosh?
Excellent tech review, you the man bro, grats!!! \m/
please let us know what jacket you're wearing and in general start posting your outfits, i really like your style
Please could you do a tear down of this display? I haven't found one anywhere :(
Ahah!! Thank you Snazzy for your always honest review! I like your channel a lot!
When the length of the video is just right 👌
What screensaver are you using?
nice review......
This was well balanced and informative .
love the videos so much!!!!
I'm wondering what computer the Big hat guy was using with the displays. I noticed there was a thunderbolt adapter or am I mistaken?
Maybe a dumb question but what is the advantage of high end "monitor" as compared to plugging in a high-end TV? I run my MacPro into a 40" Bang&Olufsen tv which was $5k new though I bought it on eBay for $1000. Insanely high end vision and sound, plus once I'm done with work I can change from AV to TV and watch stuff on it.
I wonder if the new Thunderbolt or DisplayPort standards will be built into upcoming Pro monitors and Mac's. They would have the hardware to handle such things and thus the speed and data throughput would be applicable and thus maybe only 1 port would be needed for 6k.
Hey snazzy labs I'm just next to SLC it would be a crazy dream to come see the lab and meet you guys! Love the vids guys! Keep it up!
If they were going to go back to an integer scale on the Macbooks, the 16" seems like it would have been the chance to do so, but alas, it didn't. I always notice the slight non integer scaling blur too.
Hurray now we have it! Though not on the new M2 MacBook Air...
Does it work with your Ryzen hackintosh?
I really appreciate Quinn's take on the Mac Pro and XDR display as a fan but still realistic.
This might be a stupid question but does the ProDisplay work with hackinoshes?
Did this work with the hackintosh you built?
Great review man. Thumbs up
@ 4:25 Apple Pro Display XDR also seems to work with both sizes of latest iMac and 15-inch MacBook Pro (=
This was the best slap, kick, and punch, you’ve taken at Apple Quinn. And it made for a great video because you picked them up after the beating. In a Snazzy kind of way. ;)
Great video and thank you for doing this with Denver Riddle. That guy is cool.
Thanks!!
@@snazzy You're welcome.
Can we edit prores raw in final cut Pro in ryzen hackintosh system ? Is there any performance difference for not having t2 chips and using Intel's quick sync?
Wow, THANK YOU for revealing the lack of true horizontal lock on the Apple stands.. which becomes an issue with multi-display setups that look "wonky" without this. Frankly, I'm astonished... I was on the verge of "upgrading" my stands, but looks like it'd be quite a downgrade from my existing Vesa arms. I'll stick with my Monitors in Motion Mantis 30 stands, which are the best I have found... twice as good, at half the price!
Cool vid man, very informational! also damn i'm early :)
They fixed the blooming issue with an update actually, you might want to check that out.
Another great review!
It should have been an 8K 12 bit panel and compatible with Dolby Vision at least.
Why are you not at 1M sub yet? The quality of these video is top notch. Also you actually seem to understand what your are talking about (unlikely most techtubers)
Thanks so much! Hoping to get there by the end of 2020!
Hi I've been considering a new monitor and checking a lot of vids. do you think the ASUS Proart 32UCX deserves a like?
the mini LED technology and 1000+ local dimming zone with great coverage of rec2020 seems like an awesome spec for the price which I think will battle this Pro Display XDR
What's the adapter connected to the Pro Display XDR for? You can see it at 4:01
Hi, i do have the amazon basics monitor arm… would you trust it to hold such an expensive display or would you get the Ergotron monitor arm ? Thank you
It’s probably fine but Ergotron and Simplyhuman are awesome.
Snazzy Labs thanks I think I’ll get the ergotron seems more sturdy than amazon ... also there are so many delays on this monitor, Ordered mine December 26 and still no show. I’m pretty sure it’s got to do with higher than anticipated demand and China virus. When did you order yours ? Or did find it in store ? Canada has nothing here !!! Sucks
great information to know!
You do the best reviews. Kudos.
All praise Quinn, the Teller of Truths in a world of Apple fans who are too blind to product shortcomings because of a brand name.
Thanks for always keeping it real and snazzy.
Really cool video, learnt a lot. Can the hack pro drive the Pro Display XDR?
Not without a GC Titan Ridge card. Haven’t tried it though.
Reuben Cherian you barley learned anything
I am a huge fan keep up the great work
I have seen a lot of monitors that have uneven tilt as well. IDK why they make it like that but that seems to be a standard thing
5:44 correct me if im wrong, but those arms are the Humanscale M10 right??
God bless you, man!!! I spend lat 10 minutes to looking for it!
great review
You're really stepping up your game, nice video.
You can install whatever you want from Apple BootCamp Driver to a Windows PC. On my PC i install Apple BootCamp Panel and mouse and keyboard driver, cuz i use KVM swith beetwen my iMac and PC. So You can install Display drivers and use it like on a BootCamp Windows on a regular PC
A very well done review.
can I use 3 pro display xdr with a laptop 4090 having 3 thunderbolt4 ports ?
or do i need to go for a pc biult an satisfy myself with three 5k2k displays ?
I am into trading / no gaming . need a clean setup with good resolutions like 6k on all 3 displays also connect 85inch tv with hdmi2.1
This dude is very authentic and I like that you are not praising apple like other RUclipsrs
Good review!
I wish that the Cinema Grade plugin worked for Premiere Pro on Windows
Already two Apple monitor stands have been replaced by other VESA stands in our studio, because of ergonomical complaints. Now I have two thousand dollar of monitor stands in the storage room next to my office, probably more to follow and they will remain there for years.
i still have the original 30" Cinema Display and it works freakin fantastic, i'm using it now. 14 years old and still working. Original cost was $2600. So maybe $5000 and hopefully 14 years of life will still be a good investment ( if it is built as well ).
Can you compare XDR to Asus PA32UC? It has double the Local dimming zones so it should have less blooming, right?
PA32UCG is also 120hz with 1600 nits of peak brightness and pre HDR-1400 certified.
what about a vs. with the Asus pa32ucx ??
Your Honesty is a plus, now can you please review Asus Pro Art mini LED HDR monitors that preceded this XDR monitor in going after the Pro studio Monitor market at an affordable price, thanks.
I literally can't fit 32" in my setups :( wish the trend wasn't moving there. Also his plugin for Resolve looks great, but Mac only T_T
Does it work with Hackintosh?
I really really really wanna see someone actually compare the XDR display to some of these 40k monitors in their true production environment. Like "I have this 40k reference monitor on my desk and I put a xdr there instead." Did it just replace it? Does it take extra tools to make it work? Does the workflow change? Does it actually make sense to do a replacement like that? Are people who were seriously looking at buying a 10k+ production monitor now buying xdr's instead?
Everyone just blabs about the spec sheets and their impressions, but does it make sense in the "production houses" everyone seems to be talking about.
Also what was the colorist in this video using before the XDR's?
thanks