Apple Pro Display XDR Review (vs Sony Reference Monitor)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • We review the Apple Pro Display XDR 6K monitor using not only objective measurements, but also side-by-side comparison vs a Sony BVM-HX310 reference monitor which uses dual-layer LCD technology.
    Many thanks to Ryan Masciola of Diversified Video Solutions and Stacey Spears of Spears & Munsil for their help with test patterns and demo sequences:
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  • @ecereto
    @ecereto 4 года назад +2562

    Maybe this guy doesn't have a 12" portable DVD player, but he does have some large balls

    • @phoenix15_
      @phoenix15_ 4 года назад +1

      Eduardo Cereto Carvalho 😂

    • @bugraaaaaaaa
      @bugraaaaaaaa 4 года назад +40

      large discs

    • @real_armadillo
      @real_armadillo 4 года назад +1

      You mean large discs, right?

    • @jeremyw.5729
      @jeremyw.5729 4 года назад +1

      @@real_armadillo I think he means that he has the balls to defame Apple.

    • @awerellwv
      @awerellwv 4 года назад +16

      @@jeremyw.5729 it's not defaming, he reported numbers and proper comparison. defaming is when you spread bulls*** without proof

  • @MasterGeraltofRivia
    @MasterGeraltofRivia 4 года назад +6530

    Sometimes the world doesn't need another hero, sometimes what it needs is a tv reviewer and a professional calibrator.

    • @M1710
      @M1710 4 года назад +40

      To be more specific, his name is Vincent Teoh and not something with Quantum.

    • @86rattlehead
      @86rattlehead 4 года назад +13

      The hero our standard mode 9000K out-of-the-box displays deserve...

    • @TheMoon12390
      @TheMoon12390 4 года назад +7

      I read last part in Vincent's accent without meaning to.

    • @rickg8015
      @rickg8015 4 года назад +2

      Queen laqueefa your user name rocks..

    • @NarekAvetisyan
      @NarekAvetisyan 4 года назад

      LMAO Brilliant!

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile 4 года назад +1140

    As a broadcast engineer contracted to NBC Olympics since 2008, I have been using the 26 and 30” Sony OLED reference monitors for many years for quality control of incoming HD-SDI streams via undersea cable from the host country. We have many other displays at our disposal for various purposes involved with the job of monitoring finished programs pre-broadcast. The Sony image stands head and shoulders above all of them. Sitting typically 1-2’ away, the color accuracy is breathtaking, the picture seeming to come from somewhere behind and in front of the actual panel surface.
    The difference to other 4K and above displays is not what you might expect. It is not a dramatic picture at all, but rather like looking through a crystal clear window at the actual scene being shot, but with perfect vision. No saturation hyping, no contrast exaggeration, just what is actually there, rendered visually perfect. I’m a music mixer by profession and vividly remember, many years later, hearing that ultra-rare perfection from Meyer 834 professional monitors. It’s a sound profile frozen in my mind by which all other speakers are compared. The Sony OLED reference monitor has set that same unforgettable standard for me visually.

    • @NUCLEARARMAMENT
      @NUCLEARARMAMENT 4 года назад +10

      what about Japanese reference monitors (sound), are there any that can compare let alone exceed what you've witnessed?

    • @LightrockerRon
      @LightrockerRon 4 года назад +14

      Cool, so you may had monitored streams (curling, sailing, surfing) I helped to produce.

    • @artysanmobile
      @artysanmobile 4 года назад +5

      Ronny Burkersroda Hi Ronny. Started in 8H, now in Stamford. Are you part of the At-home team?

    • @artysanmobile
      @artysanmobile 4 года назад +21

      Nuclear Armament I’m not aware of any Japanese manufacturer making studio reference monitors. And please note I’m not referring to so-called audiophile equipment. Accuracy is #1 in the professional market but way down the list in the marketing-driven audiophile business. In addition to JBL, Westlake, and Meyer, there are a number of small companies making systems for studios that I have been very impressed with but not sufficiently to drop the cost of a car on them.

    • @NUCLEARARMAMENT
      @NUCLEARARMAMENT 4 года назад +4

      @@artysanmobile I see, thanks for the response.

  • @supimjoe
    @supimjoe 4 года назад +735

    I came as an Apple fan ready for this guy to talk up the Pro Display. And I left completely satisfied with my opinion having changed entirely from an insanely professional and unbiased video. +1 sub based on this video alone.

    • @vedshah8784
      @vedshah8784 4 года назад +32

      Yeah... He made it so easy to SEE the difference

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 4 года назад +19

      I came after watching Peter Paul Chato mention the Pro Display XDR getting destroyed in what must have been this review. It helped that it was recommended by the almighty algorithm, of course. Somehow, I always get some satisfaction out of seeing Apple's marketing debunked these days. It's probably because I quit the Mac many moons ago in favor of Linux and cheaper yet superior PC hardware. All that remains now is for reviewers to tear apart the silly price-to-performance ratio of the new Mac Pro, especially in light of the competition from AMD.

    • @goodluck6948
      @goodluck6948 4 года назад +7

      @@desther7975 "cheaper yet superior pc hardware" THIS. thank you for understanding.

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 4 года назад +3

      There is hope for this one.

    • @endeavor44
      @endeavor44 4 года назад +2

      @@desther7975 check linus tech tips he destroyed the mac

  • @kroks06
    @kroks06 4 года назад +1158

    Not easy to find a bag for your 12"... dvd player

    • @downthecrop
      @downthecrop 4 года назад +7

      kroks06 laughing at 2:00 AM thank you!

    • @MaNameizJeff
      @MaNameizJeff 4 года назад +4

      That feeling..I know it.

    • @Nanorisk
      @Nanorisk 4 года назад +6

      I was caught off guard.

    • @coolm98
      @coolm98 4 года назад +1

      @@downthecrop same here, didnt laugh for a yt vid this year so far... and i have seen a lot of the internet

  • @emmanuelirizarry5302
    @emmanuelirizarry5302 4 года назад +3501

    This guy destroyed all RUclipsrs “expert” opinion (California based “experts”) ! And I like how he do it: slow and painful!

    • @Nanorisk
      @Nanorisk 4 года назад +346

      Everybody gangsta until professional with equipment shows up.

    • @mistan4216
      @mistan4216 4 года назад +6

      Exactly!

    • @ross-carlson
      @ross-carlson 4 года назад +87

      Was thinking exactly the same, I bet Johnathan would have some bullshit to say about this which would be simply "but it's from Apple"

    • @hendrikschuch
      @hendrikschuch 4 года назад +60

      marques brownie 🤣 (comment not based on his appearance)

    • @rph_redacted
      @rph_redacted 4 года назад +24

      @@ross-carlson Jonathan will say it's good enough for the price 😴

  • @georgekanulas9037
    @georgekanulas9037 4 года назад +3142

    Funny how real professional equipment almost never has the word "pro" on its 😉 designation.

    • @thecompanioncube4211
      @thecompanioncube4211 4 года назад +336

      A pro which has to say it's a pro is no true pro

    • @OneDerscoreOneder
      @OneDerscoreOneder 4 года назад +125

      Sammed Pandharkar r/im14andthisisdeep

    • @lil_bunz1720
      @lil_bunz1720 4 года назад +7

      @@thecompanioncube4211 preach bröther

    • @genau14zeichen
      @genau14zeichen 4 года назад +45

      @@thecompanioncube4211 a pro who goes to sleep with his asshole itching will wake up with a stinking finger

    • @Noedell
      @Noedell 4 года назад +11

      @@genau14zeichen RIP to all professors

  • @Nazraq04
    @Nazraq04 4 года назад +296

    This guy is a real pro. Even uploaded this video in HDR.

    • @debajyotimajumder2656
      @debajyotimajumder2656 4 года назад +15

      I could not reduce the brightness of my phone when the video was playing... Wow...i have a oled screen btw

    • @shiyou21401
      @shiyou21401 4 года назад +12

      meanwhile I'm watching his videos on a broke-ass 1080p SDR TV
      Update: I’ve since upgraded to the LG C1 OLED, couldn’t be happier with this purchase!

    • @Hkkwb
      @Hkkwb 4 года назад +2

      @@debajyotimajumder2656 if you have android then, try using youtube vanced rather than the standard youtube app. Vanced have an option to switch off the auto brightness for hdr videos 😁

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 2 года назад

      @@Hkkwb Indeed, that is what I did when I downloaded the Vanced app. I want to adjust brightness myself, not an app doing it for me.

  • @edwinchia6043
    @edwinchia6043 4 года назад +476

    Other youtubers : Apple is selling this product for professionals, don't cry about the price!
    HDTVTest : This is office monitor material

    • @narcis3720
      @narcis3720 4 года назад +31

      But there's alot of us pros who create lower budget content; 40 vs 5 grand is still a slight difference.
      Edit: there's a fuckton of pros who use apple monitors

    • @LindLyman
      @LindLyman 4 года назад +31

      @@narcis3720 and? it's still not fit for colorists. Remember that it's Cupertino's hubris that invite this comparison

    • @SatnamSingh-mx2uc
      @SatnamSingh-mx2uc 4 года назад

      @@narcis3720 😅😅

    • @sas3dx
      @sas3dx 4 года назад +22

      @@narcis3720 wouldn't a calibrated lg b9 be cheaper and better monitor?

    • @Starmast3rmusic
      @Starmast3rmusic 4 года назад +4

      @@sas3dxyup

  • @KonkaBass
    @KonkaBass 4 года назад +381

    Finally, the final word from someone in the target market.

    • @Premium-Content
      @Premium-Content 4 года назад +29

      Konka Bass it’s probably not their real target market. It’s probably more for people like tech RUclips’s, media companies and other content creators who need quality displays and but aren’t going to spend $50,000. I’d be willing to bet they’re just trying to align their product with this level of equipment for marketing purposes

    • @lolerie
      @lolerie 4 года назад +10

      @@Premium-Content but you can buy lg c9 and it will be better than that 50000$ after calibration. Well, as it will be under 0.5 deltaE so immposible to tell.

    • @dhruvemital
      @dhruvemital 4 года назад +5

      I don’t think he makes the target market. He is someone who actually needs the Sony oled and like his peers in the industry actually can make use of the benefits that provides.
      I think this is apples way to create a better cinema display but aimed at the indie or small creator studio ( people who cannot afford 100k+ systems and network renderers). It also helps for people in audio who need the resolution to see the whole project and all the instruments put without needing to sacrifice on the size/ need to scroll. It’s a halo product for the “pro-enthusiast” but not professionals or the enthusiasts or anyone else in general.

    • @EqualsDeath
      @EqualsDeath 4 года назад +7

      Amal Joe Abraham content creator is such a lousy term

    • @HeadsetHistorian
      @HeadsetHistorian 4 года назад +11

      Is he really the target market though? I think the target market is the prosumer that can stretch their wallet just enough to get this and convince themselves that they have a professional grade monitor and then not really need it in the first place.
      Apple are absolutely genius at taking advantage of consumers and extracting as much money as possible. They are the apex anti-consumer predator.

  • @ru40342
    @ru40342 4 года назад +713

    All the so-called tech reviewers are destroyed.
    BRUTAL SAVAGE REKT

    • @Josmersuero
      @Josmersuero 4 года назад +3

      No.

    • @OnTheLeftHandSide
      @OnTheLeftHandSide 4 года назад +7

      "so-called tech reviewers" are just flipping around their 1" portable DVD player.

    • @Rainyumz
      @Rainyumz 4 года назад +7

      @@Josmersuero yessssssssss... Whether u like it or not it's yes.

  • @SalvagedCircuitry
    @SalvagedCircuitry 4 года назад +99

    This is the exact review I wanted to see. No one else is doing any serious testing with this monitor. Massive thank you!

  • @thefilmpoets
    @thefilmpoets 4 года назад +185

    the humor in this is low-key gangster

  • @speedyink
    @speedyink 4 года назад +104

    As soon as the XDR display was announced I wanted to see this video. The contrast claims were definitely the most bold and I had to see whether or not they could meet them. They uh...certainly did not.

    • @fredrikcarlen3212
      @fredrikcarlen3212 4 года назад +2

      Yeah that piece of marketing is really dishonest. That's like those monitors back in the day which had "infinite to 1 contrast". Technically true, but only because you can turn the monitor off.. (in this case, turn local dimming zones off)

    • @Jonathan_Wick
      @Jonathan_Wick 4 года назад +5

      speedyink yeah I hate their marketing on this thing. From the stupid comparisons, to the absolutely atrocious stand. It’s all such crappy marketing.
      But as a $5k display, it really does hold its own. If they simply toned it down, and said, “yeah this is a color accurate display, that has a lot of features for creative professionals.” It’s great for photography and editing, and could even work as a great low price option for budding film studios.
      But they couldn’t just be humble and say what it really is. They had to go and compare it to the top dogs, and try to justify that unbelievable comparison.. smh

    • @OneDerscoreOneder
      @OneDerscoreOneder 4 года назад

      Grizabella the stand isn’t atrocious, it’s just expensive.

    • @mikidof
      @mikidof 4 года назад +3

      Grizabella Had Apple just sold the Monitor and the Stand together for $5 999 and not compare it to actual professional reference monitors, I bet most people would have had a much more positive opinion on the device. It’s because Apple treats its customers like they’re total idiots that makes a lot of people unhappy. Granted, most people are idiots when it comes to technology, but a different apporach would be appreciated. They could have said ”look, this is a great monitor. It’s not like the 50k dollar ones that studios use, but it’s not that far off for regular users. If you’re rich, want a great monitor for your office and happen to own a Mac computer, this is for you!”, but that wouldn’t make Apple a trillion dollar company would it?

    • @Jonathan_Wick
      @Jonathan_Wick 4 года назад

      OneDerscore One I meant more that the marketing of the display stand was atrocious. The stand itself is quite nice, my bad

  • @rausyanrezaly2050
    @rausyanrezaly2050 4 года назад +32

    One of the most detailed and comprehensive review of a product. This is what u called pro review. Legit in depth review

  • @abduktedtemplar
    @abduktedtemplar 4 года назад +445

    I've never wanted to "Join" a channel but your 12" joke made me seriously consider it. Thank you for always injecting some humor (with perfect timing may I say)into your technically dense reviews.

    • @PaulCarmona
      @PaulCarmona 4 года назад +1

      Ha! I'm not the only one - my thoughts exactly!

    • @aymanmahdi2010
      @aymanmahdi2010 4 года назад +9

      Who uses join instead of subscribe ?!!

    • @EnterSpacebar
      @EnterSpacebar 4 года назад +6

      @@aymanmahdi2010 Those are two different things, genius..

    • @HappySlappyFace
      @HappySlappyFace 4 года назад

      I have to agree with you in that one

    • @YuhNinja
      @YuhNinja 4 года назад

      @@aymanmahdi2010 Idiot

  • @-eMpTy-
    @-eMpTy- 4 года назад +26

    One of the few real reviews out there on RUclips. Thank you. I'd appreciate if you could present a good alternative to it in its price range ($4k-6k).

    • @da_stash
      @da_stash 2 года назад

      replying to this, check out his review for LG 32EP950 if you haven't already. sounds to be the best alternative

  • @azriel84
    @azriel84 4 года назад +110

    "We need budget for a stand" I laughed so hard!

    • @joshuaroney
      @joshuaroney 4 года назад

      Thomas Thomaidis no you didn’t

    • @MAGA2024.
      @MAGA2024. 4 года назад +2

      5k no stand rofl

    • @fortris
      @fortris 4 года назад

      wiLL it is less than an eighth of the price of the comparison product.

    • @goodluck6948
      @goodluck6948 4 года назад

      @@fortris apple fanboy

  • @StringerNews1
    @StringerNews1 4 года назад +58

    Sweet. Finally a RUclipsr who speaks a language that I can understand. And I can understand because it's about real-world things. I've been besieged by poseurs for so long that I almost forgot what an honest and competent review was. Yes, a "pro" monitor without even one SDI input does place the Apple monitor squarely in the overpriced consumer goods realm. I suppose that a successful divorce lawyer can afford to pay a housekeeper to maintain the back of the thing.
    At 32" it's about the size where UHD (3.75K) monitors begin, which begs the question "why 6K?" There is no "6K" UHD standard, and it's even shy of a full 6K pixels wide by DCI standards. Color gamut is equally baffling. Presuming it does 100% Rec.709 and at ninety-something P3, it's right in the ballpark of a lot of 30+ inch monitors that are self-calibrating. When you add the cost of the mandatory Apple computer, the Apple monitor is hideously overpriced. I haven't personally had the pleasure or the need to use a $40,000 Sony monitor, which is probably overkill for ATSC broadcasting. I have no doubt that it's worth every penny for productions destined for distribution at better than 8-bit 4:2:0. With a full 4096 horizontal pixels and native support for several log gamma functions and P3 color space, at least it walks the walk for movies.

    • @davidhrzenjak
      @davidhrzenjak Год назад

      Apple always had unconventional resolutions for basically all of their devices

  • @twinbill2604
    @twinbill2604 4 года назад +66

    *Most unbiased apple review ever seen.*

  • @Simon-oy7kf
    @Simon-oy7kf 4 года назад +155

    If you have "local dimming zones", you can't call your display "pro"

    • @enneff
      @enneff 4 года назад +17

      Simon48 I find this dynamic backlight stuff so annoying. Even on cheap tvs it should be possible to turn it off, but often isn’t. I care more about consistency than absolute contrast numbers. My eyes can adjust to whatever brightness floor and ceiling you give me, but I’m always going to be startled by the backlight adjustments.

    • @dnovom
      @dnovom 4 года назад +16

      We can all can agree that Apple has massacred the term “PRO" with its marketing...

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 4 года назад +4

      @@enneff I can't. Kinda missed my old CRT when I moved to LCD. Stopped noticing for a bit but then I got my first smartphone and it had an OLED panel. Bought a display with FALD and never looked back. It's not perfect but by far an improvement. But it's not a real mastering display if it doesn't have double layered LCDs anymore.

    • @macyourday0
      @macyourday0 3 года назад +1

      Having used a $40k+ Sony crt reference monitor and compared it side by side with their second gen OLED ref monitor, the crt looked like crap. Any light, not even direct, would ruin the contrast on the crt but unnoticeable on the OLED and its special surface treatment. And this was before HDR.

  • @panmaew
    @panmaew 4 года назад +582

    A beautifully looking display for the offices of divorce lawyers that is 😊

    • @polyphony250
      @polyphony250 4 года назад +9

      I wasn't sure if he said divorce lawyer or "divorced lawyer" which also kind of makes sense :D

  • @Izquierda
    @Izquierda 4 года назад +89

    I had also assumed a dual layer LCD for this. That would have justified the price. What a rip off.
    Also the "divorced lawyer" bit killed me.

    • @DDRWakaLaka
      @DDRWakaLaka 4 года назад +5

      divorce lawyer, not divorced lawyer

    • @DDRWakaLaka
      @DDRWakaLaka 4 года назад +4

      like, as in a scumbag who makes his money off unhappy people trying to split up their lives

    • @mikidof
      @mikidof 4 года назад +4

      interrobangings I wouldn’t judge a profession like that. They’re just lawyers who specialize on certain legal situations. Marriage is a significant legal contract so it requires specialists like any other thing. Do you call trauma surgeons scumbags because they make money by saving people’s lives for 300k a year? They should do it for free because it’s only very unhappy people that need those services, right?

    • @DDRWakaLaka
      @DDRWakaLaka 4 года назад +2

      @@mikidof yeah no nobody held you at gunpoint and forced you into that field. having met multiple divorce lawyers, i can say without a doubt they're all scum

    • @6884
      @6884 4 года назад

      @@DDRWakaLaka I mean, not only they are _lawyers_, they are _divorce lawyers_. Worse than that there's just those working against the 3yo in cages

  • @Greenfield5150
    @Greenfield5150 4 года назад +88

    9:43 funniest thing on youtube this week

  • @tj472
    @tj472 4 года назад +1

    Just noticed my Samsung Galaxy switched to HDR while playing this video. WOW! First time watching a RUclips review in HDR.

  • @nabieladrian
    @nabieladrian 4 года назад +40

    You know what?
    It's 2020, seeing a real professional youtuber sharing his professional jobs is a great honor to be live with.
    Respect, sir.

  • @andymiklav
    @andymiklav 4 года назад +97

    Vincent, this was really good.

  • @mookitty2396
    @mookitty2396 4 года назад +86

    His testing equipment cost more than the "pro" display.

    • @fredygump5578
      @fredygump5578 4 года назад +8

      More than the "pro" display, with "nano-whatever" glass, and a stand. More than multiple of said combination...

    • @narcis3720
      @narcis3720 4 года назад +7

      That's how you know he doesn't fit apple's target audience lol

    • @lotharhonorato5337
      @lotharhonorato5337 4 года назад +9

      and that's the difference between "tech reviewers" and he.

  • @MrUPSman
    @MrUPSman 4 года назад +1

    I love this video. Absolute takedown of people like Jon Morrison who film videos about an iPhone and suddenly think they are 'pro' users. This guy is a true professional and spoke about things I've heard no one else on youtube talk about - and I watch a lot of tech videos.

  • @SamSpeed90
    @SamSpeed90 3 года назад +1

    Hats off to someone with real expertise in the field who conducted an unbiased review of what seems to be a not so "Pro" product.

  • @user-uw1wq9rj8g
    @user-uw1wq9rj8g 4 года назад +9

    Finally the video we've been waiting for HDTVTest to review Apple Display

  • @bitnisse7186
    @bitnisse7186 4 года назад +14

    Thanks for another sublime video Vincent. You are a true master of infotainment and no bullshit reviews.

  • @MyReviews_karkan
    @MyReviews_karkan 4 года назад +36

    Man, you've just gained yourself a sub for life. Thank you for listening to your viewers. I really appreciate it. I've requested this video on your last video and here you are. Now, watch out for apple. They're gonna be coming for you. Lol
    Edit: this video needs to go viral. Share it everywhere you can.

  • @llMurcielagoll
    @llMurcielagoll 4 года назад +94

    Vincent is one Savage TV reviewer and professional Calibrator. You know he could add salt to injury at the end if he said "hit that like button and if you are an apple fan hit the dislike button" I would have really enjoyed that hahaha

  • @SOMEONE-ME
    @SOMEONE-ME 4 года назад +80

    Maybe Apple can 'convince' those who never saw a footage on proper reference screen, but I can bet that no one who saw it at least once believed Apple's marketing hype.

  • @mattewing1484
    @mattewing1484 4 года назад +156

    Why hasn’t Vincent got his own “Top Gear” style TV show?

    • @masssdzgkjfj6658
      @masssdzgkjfj6658 4 года назад +2

      Best comment

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 4 года назад +2

      His presentation is a little dull, but it doesn't matter since it's very professionally written. He could very easily branch out into general tech reviews.

  • @Orangetilt
    @Orangetilt 4 года назад +2

    Great video, man! I worked with TV broadcast for 7 years and one recurring internal “joke/comment” was that no one beats Sony on truly professional gear, period.
    I’m sure there is a market for the Apple display BUT, if you’re really doing professional work, there’s just no way around true professional gear. ;)
    Keep up the awesome work!

  • @deerenzo
    @deerenzo 4 года назад +56

    iJustine would cry and scream at him, while she is trying to watch the comparison video. 😂

    • @TheJosephStalin420
      @TheJosephStalin420 4 года назад

      why?

    • @michaeltualatin
      @michaeltualatin 4 года назад +1

      @@TheJosephStalin420 Because she like everything form apple and think it is a "pro"

    • @rosyfeather468
      @rosyfeather468 4 года назад +2

      @@michaeltualatin Because she likes everything from apple and think it is a "pro brand" *

    • @canIhavethishandle
      @canIhavethishandle 3 года назад

      @@rosyfeather468 Because she likes everything from apple*

  • @SweBeach2023
    @SweBeach2023 4 года назад +5

    I must say I'm a bit surprised. Reading the specs at first I assumed it was a panel made by Panasonic since they already offer a dual layer IPS panel with a similar 1000000:1 contrast ratio. Later being told the Apple panel was made by LG still assumed a similar technology. But it being a normal be it very good IPS panel with a basic system for local dimming explains why they are able to keep the price lower than expected. It's no more than a $2000 monitor made with fancy materials and sold for three times the price.

  • @aam77
    @aam77 4 года назад +25

    9:34. Hahahahahaha. Loved his sense of humour.

  • @RedFodex
    @RedFodex 4 года назад +4

    Din't understand anything after first watching. Then I saw his review of the sony monitor... THIS is a freaking brilliant.

  • @DarkCloud360
    @DarkCloud360 4 года назад +83

    And MKBHD so: It‘s a great display.

    • @jadenamber8378
      @jadenamber8378 4 года назад +13

      @@yoriiroy1720 ... Steve Jobs was a man of hyperbole. His tradition lives on in Apple Marketing.

    • @christianheudens1984
      @christianheudens1984 4 года назад +9

      It's great for making RUclips content, not for making Hollywood movies. But the the price is too high for many RUclipsrs though I guess.

    • @slayedbyprayeesniping8326
      @slayedbyprayeesniping8326 4 года назад +2

      the bright scenes did look awesome tho, but the black scenes... the blooming was insane.

    • @2BTO
      @2BTO 4 года назад

      Christian Heudens wym, its just 1 RAID SHADOW LEGENDS sponsorship

    • @junxia8119
      @junxia8119 4 года назад +1

      Sid Kusanagi well, at least apple’s display is a lot cheaper if it aims at pro market.

  • @AttilaTheHun333333
    @AttilaTheHun333333 4 года назад +167

    Just an IPS with local dimming and all the problems that come with it. What’s the big deal that everyone is talking about this monitor?

    • @brettus9115
      @brettus9115 4 года назад +33

      @@rhtr. Baa baa is your native language I see.
      Underwhelming restricted tech as usual from them... The Pro in the name makes me laugh though.
      It's short for Prostitute not Professional!

    • @manolinmero
      @manolinmero 4 года назад +15

      @@brettus9115 Isn't that how Apple rolls?

    • @thelarry383
      @thelarry383 4 года назад +44

      @@brettus9115 imo, Pro is short for Propaganda

    • @HosakaBlood
      @HosakaBlood 4 года назад +10

      bunch of fanboy and review on youtube want view since is a apple product is always get recomended by youtube and get shet tons of view just like when apple release anything all review cover it over 10 times and click bait tittle to gain view theres asus monitor with better led tech for less price than apple display lol

    • @LarsonChristopher
      @LarsonChristopher 4 года назад +6

      It's fun to watch reviews like this on a Sony OLED. The starfield was very black on the Sony, whereas the Apple was grey. I wonder how this looked in person vs what I see on my end.
      In any event, you can only push a technology so far before you run into the limitations like a brick wall.

  • @tim.e.l
    @tim.e.l 2 года назад +2

    Apple's marketing is always so vague. Their graphs are incomprehensible. Great review. Thanks for explaining the differences to a lay person.

  • @JAKOB1977
    @JAKOB1977 4 года назад +3

    LCD vs DL LCD, simply no contest 7:54
    Well done Vincent.. to the point with valid competent testing result showing advantages and negatives.
    Love it. But ohh man the number of RUclipsrs that just swallow everything that Apple claimed ..
    Btw it seems it is an LG IPS LCD panel that Apple pro display are using

  • @NSS7
    @NSS7 4 года назад +11

    Sony is veteran player in display technology. They have major presence in movie making industry. There is no way Apple can compete in this area especially high end category.

  • @Darkcloud1983
    @Darkcloud1983 4 года назад +5

    @9:42 Vincent man lmao you have to stop I almost died from laughter lmao

  • @rileyleff2376
    @rileyleff2376 4 года назад +6

    i have never trusted someone as much as i trust this man

  • @jimmygigga6819
    @jimmygigga6819 2 года назад +2

    That was seriously a professional review; unlike all of the others that I have seen.

  • @FUDBuddy
    @FUDBuddy 4 года назад +194

    "for it's beautiful design, the "PRO" display XDR, may find it's way into the office of a divorced lawyer" ~ savage

    • @AlecKinnear
      @AlecKinnear 7 месяцев назад +2

      I think Vincent said/meant "divorce lawyer" meaning someone who makes a ton of money and spends it on bling. Very funny either way.

    • @FUDBuddy
      @FUDBuddy 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@AlecKinnear you might be on to something but as you said, it was a great quip.

  • @user-ot7lv8su1b
    @user-ot7lv8su1b 4 года назад +7

    I'm yet to watch this video and i'm the most excited person ever. thank you for this review.

    • @user-ot7lv8su1b
      @user-ot7lv8su1b 4 года назад

      And as I foresaw you did a steller job. thank you.

  • @robinkhaira1
    @robinkhaira1 4 года назад +3

    very detailed review and comparison. totally unbiased and science based review. love your calm demeanor and sense of humor, never laughed so hard on a tech review video. subscribed.

  • @dhruvemital
    @dhruvemital 4 года назад +20

    I was noticing your hand losing hue when it went over the screen . Any reason for that in particular?

    • @jirestedt
      @jirestedt 4 года назад +5

      Most likely a mask was applied in post to change the skin tones and that mask could not be over the screen because it would affect the colors of the screen whenever skintone-alike colors would appear on the display, therefore the hand changes color at the edge of the screen. (They were to lazy to track the hand or they simply did not notice it)

    • @jirestedt
      @jirestedt 4 года назад +1

      ..or a grading mask was put over the screen and this mask applies to the hand when it's overlaying the screen.

    • @dhruvemital
      @dhruvemital 4 года назад

      Carl Jirestedt ah do you mean to say to keep the colors on the rest of the image constant ?
      The thing was that I am not a pixel peeper by any measure but every time that hand showed up over the screen something just felt off. It wasn’t until later I realized the hand was the one melting my brain.

    • @jirestedt
      @jirestedt 4 года назад +1

      @@dhruvemital Yes, you make a mask and shape it like the screen and within that mask you apply changes/colorgrade.

  • @HebertSanchezMacbo
    @HebertSanchezMacbo 4 года назад +1

    This is gold... have to make this guy viral for sure! The review that we deserve form true professionals!

  • @The1just12
    @The1just12 4 года назад

    How did RUclips not recommend this channel with this legend to me before??

  • @imalsoTOMATO
    @imalsoTOMATO 4 года назад +5

    Wonderfully done review. I like how you were honest with what you'd like and why you wouldn't recommend it

  • @markoposavec9240
    @markoposavec9240 4 года назад +6

    Awesome review just what I really wanted to know about the display. So many wanabe's on youtube pretending they are reviewing stuff but in reality they dont have the knowledge to do so. And yes first thing they usually say is the max brightness level which is meaningless without the blacklevel. Contrast is much more important. Colors and perfect reproduction on a pixel level as well. Now I know that for me it's not worth upgrading to any of the new monitors they are ridiculously expensive and cant match my Quato hardware calibrating display in many aspects.
    A good review saves viewers time, which is exactly what this video does. Thanks!

  • @nikopro16
    @nikopro16 4 года назад +5

    This guy has best sense of humor!

  • @Archivist42
    @Archivist42 4 года назад +2

    Could never afford the XDR display but I was interested to hear what an actual professional's take was. Fascinating to hear it's inadequate for serious colour grading - and it begs the question who this is actually for? Perhaps Apple would have been better off making a significantly cheaper monitor that simply used the 5K iMac's panel - I for one would've been satisfied with that

  • @yabinthomas7605
    @yabinthomas7605 4 года назад +1

    I like how this video is in HDR.

  • @tradingespanol5384
    @tradingespanol5384 4 года назад +3

    Yoooo I died at 9:50!!! SUBSCRIBEEEDDDD
    Edit: just finished the video. .. This man is THE MAN.

  • @suzyaero
    @suzyaero 4 года назад +5

    You earned a sub for your humor... Oh, and for your expertise too.. 😄

  • @darkovidic6885
    @darkovidic6885 4 года назад +3

    I own a trinitron 21 "g520 monitor and the black display is almost oled in quality and better than the 5000 us apple in question.
    Purchased used for 20 eur

  • @IshanSanyal
    @IshanSanyal 4 дня назад

    The HDR in this video is looking sick 😮

  • @sjhstone
    @sjhstone 4 года назад +1

    Starting from 11:40 it is just so funny to see how the birds' facial expression echoes the statements!

  • @soragranda
    @soragranda 4 года назад +16

    2:12 "Always use a bag" I get it chief!, Always use protection!

    • @hobmoor2042
      @hobmoor2042 4 года назад

      No need to state the obvious.

    • @soragranda
      @soragranda 4 года назад

      @@hobmoor2042 ¡Someone needs to do it!

    • @AbalJ
      @AbalJ 4 года назад

      *ding

  • @fiveshorts
    @fiveshorts 4 года назад +1

    Eloquent. Professional. Fascinating. Succinct. Accurate. In context and entertaining. A perfect review, in a world where so many reviews are just opinions and click bait. Kudos to you.
    Regarding the item itself, would you consider (please) a similar side-by-side comparison to, say, a $2,000 Eizo "reference" monitor? It would seem likely that the XDR would outperform what is an industry standard for those amongst us who DO a lot of grading, but will probably NEVER be able to justify a $35,000 monitor, however good it is. I guess what I'm asking is: is the XDR worth the extra $3k over an Eizo for documentary, SDR, day-to-day work. Or not. Because I could see myself justifying the extra if it is, but not $30,000 extra...
    Also, the fact that the XDR ties the user to Mac products - which means a MacPro, if one has a hope to be processing 6k RAW multicam source material in Resolve, for instance - means that it might actually be cheaper to buy a SONY monitor, and buils a kickass PC, for a fraction of the price of a juiced Mac Pro...
    Why is it so difficult.
    Why is the Resolve Full color panel TEN TIMES more expensive than the Mini?
    As an independent colorist, these things plague me. And as my client is NOT JJ Abrams, most directors can;'t tell the difference between a well-calibrated iMac Retina display and the iPhones they review proghress on anyway. If one is a scope Master, then I think a lot of these issues become less important.
    Thoughts anyone?
    Thanks again for a GREAT review.

  • @FlipperWolf
    @FlipperWolf 3 года назад +1

    This is the legendary video that made me discover HDTVTest and Vincent Teoh, glorious.

  • @ObsidianWalker
    @ObsidianWalker 4 года назад +18

    The man, the machine.

    • @_wkja
      @_wkja 4 года назад

      Halb Wesen, Halb Ding

  • @eagletrippin
    @eagletrippin 4 года назад +4

    Always use a bag, gentleman. LOL Vincent is awesome.

  • @ianti
    @ianti 4 года назад +4

    I was waiting for a real pro to test this apple monitor and finally found you I loved the 12 inch joke tho

  • @Raja995mh33
    @Raja995mh33 4 года назад +1

    Really nice to watch someone who knows what he is talking about.
    For some the Pro display XDR may be a good buy or value but Apples marketing really was way overkill and promised WAY too much which is actually kinda sad.

  • @lamenamethefirst
    @lamenamethefirst 3 года назад +1

    This guy appears to be a calm, serious and professional presenter and suddenly whips out that...joke. Brilliant.

  • @pioneer2321
    @pioneer2321 4 года назад +247

    The nasty apple showing grey instead of black.

    • @brettus9115
      @brettus9115 4 года назад +21

      That star scene is hilarious lol. They should have called it "Unco Device" (uncoordinated)...

    • @pioneer2321
      @pioneer2321 4 года назад +33

      Brettus they have the audacity to call it worlds best Pro monitor.

    • @matthewbailey5558
      @matthewbailey5558 4 года назад +14

      Because the word "Pro" is their marketing name for their monitors, so it very well might be the best "Pro" monitor, but not the best monitor for a pro... I hate apple

    • @Malc180s
      @Malc180s 4 года назад +5

      @@matthewbailey5558 Grow up.

    • @taypuc31
      @taypuc31 4 года назад +3

      Not that surprised considering it's the 1/6 the price of the sony

  • @MalphasReynolds
    @MalphasReynolds 4 года назад +14

    “Always use a bag”
    Words to live by.

  • @Roccofan
    @Roccofan 4 года назад

    I watched the entire video and understood about 10%, but I loved what he was saying and the way he said it. Good stuff.

  • @lobogato100
    @lobogato100 4 года назад

    I don't even need this kind of information, but this video is made so professionally that I subscribed

  • @DarkSoul-ds2
    @DarkSoul-ds2 4 года назад +9

    I don't know why buy this over LG OLED or Sony 8k

    • @jsward96
      @jsward96 4 года назад +3

      Those are TVs, this is a monitor.

    • @schwartzy65
      @schwartzy65 4 года назад +6

      So you clearly dont know the use for these mastering monitors...

    • @Vaanboonghaey
      @Vaanboonghaey 4 года назад

      @@jsward96 LG OLED or Sony 8k can be used as computer monitor

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 4 года назад +2

      @@Vaanboonghaey He's referring to the small SIZE being monitors. Not that TVs aren't capable of being used as monitors.

    • @triscuitbiscuit
      @triscuitbiscuit 4 года назад +2

      LEONIDAS and you can fit 4 people in an Audi TT but does that mean that it’s practical or any good? A TV is first significantly larger than a monitor. A TV also is made for consumers whereas these monitors have a much smaller audience and different standards put into them.

  • @kishores7034
    @kishores7034 4 года назад +103

    Apple were themselves comparing it to Sony reference monitor
    When someone points out the quality is nowhere near the sony reference monitor
    Apple fan boy cry about Price
    Lol

    • @Premium-Content
      @Premium-Content 4 года назад +4

      Kishore S Breaking news: $50,000 monitor is better than a $5000 monitor

    • @hippiemuslim
      @hippiemuslim 4 года назад +8

      Their claim sounded like they achieved better quality at low cost, something we humans call progress. But in reality, they're selling an ips panel for lots of cash, which reminds me of teleshopping commercials.

    • @Hzuuuu
      @Hzuuuu 4 года назад

      @@Premium-Content Breaking news: Apple is selling a regular IPS display for $5000 which can be bought at a much cheaper price from other manufacturers.

    • @dnovom
      @dnovom 4 года назад +1

      @@Hzuuuu Not with 1000 sustainable nits. I don’t think so. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m curious….

    • @dnovom
      @dnovom 4 года назад

      @@Hzuuuu I don’t think so for 1000 sustainable nits of brightness. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m curious….

  • @duta6388
    @duta6388 4 года назад

    😂😂 Consistently better comedic timing than many "pro" comedians. Not in the market for either of the displays but still watched the whole video, another well-done video.

  • @kevinxin1545
    @kevinxin1545 4 года назад +2

    I actually clapped after the video ended. THIS SHIT IS GOLD

  • @LegateMalpais
    @LegateMalpais 4 года назад +3

    So in essence what was done here is that what is just a "high-end CONSUMER grade display" was/is marketed as a truly pro product... which it is not, but is in fact a high res proprietary use display with lazy big dimming blocks.
    You sir, do have indeed a 12" DVD display, you just swiped it across Tim Cook's face ti assert dominance. Thank you for your service.

  • @ClownSpass
    @ClownSpass 4 года назад +5

    Strong technical review mate!

  • @ripvanmarlowe
    @ripvanmarlowe 4 года назад +19

    Thanks for the review. I work a lot with Sony reference monitors (X300 mostly) as well as some of the Eizo ColorEdge monitors (not great) and the Dolby PRM and it just seems crazy that apple could think they would compare favourably against these screens. It really makes them look like a bit of a joke when they knowingly try to mislead people with false claims. I mean, they must have access to the best calibration equipment so they must have figured out, the same way you did, that the performance wasn't there. Apple really is just about style over substance these days, there's only so long you can keep making grand claims that aren't true before people figure it out.

  •  4 года назад +6

    Outstanding review. Very very professional.

  • @monawoka97
    @monawoka97 4 года назад +3

    Man I know nearly nothing about the subject matter but that was fascinating. I feel like I learned a lot.

    • @addicz2
      @addicz2 3 года назад

      All you need to know is
      White is white. Not Grey
      Black is Black. Not Grey
      Still looking good if you watch it from different angels

  • @NarekAvetisyan
    @NarekAvetisyan 4 года назад +132

    So it's just another typical Apple product. Pretty on the outside and shallow in the inside.

    • @batuhancokmar7330
      @batuhancokmar7330 4 года назад +26

      Because its designed for people pretty on the outside and shallow in the inside..

    • @SatnamSingh-mx2uc
      @SatnamSingh-mx2uc 4 года назад +17

      @@batuhancokmar7330 this is designed for rich youtubers😂
      They don't understand what imax grade videography require..
      They are happy with their final cut and 8k red camera footage 😂

    • @AnonymousUser77254
      @AnonymousUser77254 4 года назад +4

      saini 2g tbh, an 8k red camera is already overkill for a RUclips video.

    • @SatnamSingh-mx2uc
      @SatnamSingh-mx2uc 4 года назад +5

      @@AnonymousUser77254 ofc it's overkill.. most of their audience watch it in 480p

    • @SatnamSingh-mx2uc
      @SatnamSingh-mx2uc 4 года назад +3

      @Peter Minsk we have 1gbps network in broadband..but most of us use cellular network which is way cheaper and is about 60to 100mbps..

  • @snoochpounder
    @snoochpounder 4 года назад +2

    Sony BVMs have always been on another level

  • @hendrikschuch
    @hendrikschuch 4 года назад +1

    I'm not an expert, but I'm a bit proud I always trusted in Sony products, always had Sony TV'S and by the way I'm watching this on my xperia 5 which has a 21:9 OLED HDR display

  • @BGUFF
    @BGUFF 4 года назад +24

    Just when we thought that we could trust such a high end premium company as Apple. They oversold their products!? No way 😂. Obviously a joke there but it does help make one think more critically when we are all watching those sexy Apple keynotes and they are dropping next level performance promises left and right while we are all hypnotized like 🤤. Great video! 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @BGUFF
      @BGUFF 4 года назад +1

      Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH it’s all always about money. Nothing else matters. Money money money. Trick the consumer = MO MONEY 😉

    • @tweedpenguin712
      @tweedpenguin712 2 года назад

      What is overselling? Oh yeah a 43,000 dollar Sony monitor.

  • @KrrSplat
    @KrrSplat 4 года назад +7

    Great job as always 👍

  • @Ge-Fat
    @Ge-Fat 4 года назад +4

    i have a 12" what ever u can imagine, subbed! great stuff

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 4 года назад +1

    Please review the Cheaper 4K Asus ProArt U series with mini LED and HDR, supposedly it is much better than the XDR, except in resolution, and peak brightness, and it works with all computers mac and pc without scaling issues.

  • @dayvid7386
    @dayvid7386 4 года назад +1

    A review from a real professional

  • @MichaelPace2.0
    @MichaelPace2.0 4 года назад +17

    "We had to save budget for the stand"... thanks Apple!
    This was both informative and hilarious.

  • @vdevov
    @vdevov 4 года назад +4

    I love that you have a Technicolor cap, yet I’ve worked directly with Technicolor for a decade, and I don’t have one.

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 4 года назад

      I worked for a contracted security company at the old Specialty Records/WEA/Cinram plant they had for a while.

  • @Savage_7_99
    @Savage_7_99 4 года назад +1

    Always use a bag. 🤣🤣
    Love you Vincent.

  • @SollowP
    @SollowP 4 года назад

    Ohh god, that 12 inch joke came out of nowhere and completely caught me off guard after basically the whole video being very professional.
    Which is a compliment.

  • @GabiFish
    @GabiFish 4 года назад +14

    I don't know if it's a problem with my tv but your face with HDR it's very Red. With the same settings and other hdr content i don't have this problem.

    • @lassdo77
      @lassdo77 4 года назад +1

      Same here! His face is too red in hdr. I don't have this issue on another hdr content

    • @jerm_
      @jerm_ 4 года назад +3

      Its called asian glow how dare u

    • @jolonf
      @jolonf 4 года назад +1

      Same, very red on Sony A8F and his hands are almost green when held up in front of the monitor.

  • @MrFlashdaemon
    @MrFlashdaemon Год назад

    If anyone is looking for the stand used in this video: this is Hemudu HT05B-001. Costs around 20 bucks. Well, that's a great deal for 5 grand display.
    And yes, I bought this one for the XDR.