Thats a really good idea . why not add wing chun to BJJ/ grapling trainning and vise- versa 🤔 coz Wing chun gonna give all.the tools /skills to punch quick and powerful a very short distance while standing or on the ground and as defense as well.. coz the most fighters when stay on the gride very close distance or on the ground they has not abillity to hit fast and wity power from a short distance I would create a new martial art the( WingJitsu) who these dominate conxiliate these 2 martial arts can brings a really big trouble to any fight lol
The wing Tsun kunfa that I learned in the 90s under Keith Fain sifu was a standing grappling art that employed camming , bridging, sticking and striking only to close with and destabilize the adversary in order to sweep, reap or neck clench throw them to the ground. . .then we could finish them on ground by dropping both knees into rib cage or the chest cavity to drive broken ribs through organs as we attack throat. I also trained and tested under sifu Emin Boztephi. But Keith Fain Wing Tsun Kunfa we used sticking leg to drive through the lower structure while simultaneously attacking their upper structure to destabilize them for take down. Our punches were Phoenix eye fist to orbital socket, neck, throat, solar plexus, liver and ribs. Bil gee fingers to eyes, throat, neck. Edge of palm chop into neck vitals. Digital choke seizing strike to trachea. Oblique kicks into lower structure to check or hyper extend lead leg. But we enter then stick using both legs and arms simultaneously, trying to get hip to hip contact, then take them down. Wing Tsun is a standing grappling art with supplemental striking to achieve destabilizing structure.
Wing Chun and grappling makes a lot of sense. Handfighting happens a lot in grappling arts. Also when people are mounting another person for ground and pound. They'll hand fight to get strikes in. Trapping range is grappling range.
Thank you both so much. This is the aspect of Chinese martial arts that's not talked about enough. It's even a great position when you can get someone to dedicate themselves to grabbing you while you strike at the eyes or face. These methods come up many times in other methods like Xingyiquan, baguazhang and taijiquan although dealt with a bit differently based on their principles.
Awesome! I started my JKD experience in NJ in the early 1990s. Currently, I live in Aomori and I train with a group doing JKD and Inosanto-Lacoste Kali. I just started with a BJJ group in Aomori as well. Every 3 months I visit Tokyo for Pekiti Tirsia Kali and Bujinkan training. A few months back, Mark Stewart (Boxer Rebellion International) did a seminar in Shibuya hosted by ShinKali. It's great to see other people doing JKD & Wing Chun here in Japan! I'm looking forward to my next Tokyo trip in March (when the Tohoku snow start to melt).
@@SifuNate I will be in Tokyo in March for my regular musha shugyo visits. I go on a 10 day musha shugyo every 2-4 months time frame. Work schedule dictates. May I have contact details so I can schedule?
@@SifuNate brother Nate there is a man named Randy Williams who had a bunch of videos from the 1990's who studied wing chun and jkd concepts he would do chi dau from the guard and mount positions and lots of other things maybe you could investigate about him if you already haven't.God bless you sifu.do you ever talk to Corey who use train at smart karate? Aloha 😇🙏👍🥷😁
1:24 🀄️absolutely key. Nate made the point to show you guys the 18 hand PAK SAO PARRY one. To deflect with PAK or Fook and after covering or slapping the bridge, his hand is going right in. And just so you guys know. That’s the essence of GAANG SAO to take the outside opening up the inside because he stiffens up. 😎with GAANG we’d block or chop in (left hand) using the arm instead of just the palm/hand. But the premise is still the same. He isolated a limb with his limb, giving himself an inside entry.
Kevin is on the right path. Unbalancing and uprooting are the ultimate Control and true to the roots of All Kungfu. Continuous parrying and striking is not truly control, in a survival situation especially. This is why when training grappling the level of technical precision is able to be so high and so standardized. There is a hierarchy and therefore a demonstrable method to establishing dominant positions starting from takedown. With striking, the variables are much more numerous. While the striking methods and stances across martial arts of many nations can sometimes wildly differ… the part of all those different arts that is grappling usually looks pretty much exactly the same. Wonder why?
With your hands on top, you can also drop elbow and rotate forearm outside to inside across center line to angle advantage while entangling the opponent's arms. Remember Master Sifu's lesson of elbow, elbow, elbow.
I don't see the point until I see this defense working on a full punch coming out of the blue with all its full kinetic energy. This performance is like dancing or a movie's stunt show.
very interesting calibration! I see Japanese Spiderman has been introduced to Kevin by Jeff Chen? I ended up doing some of what Kevin talked about in this video in Boxing and MMA, and I never learned Wing Chun before but constantly being called the Wing Chun guy by other boxers (I'm Asian probably adds a little). But the real reason probably comes from my extensive HEMA (historical swords) background, I think my willingness to connect hands with opponents give me a good position to strike and grapple from. different path same destination I suppose
Hema and Chinese martial arts particularly WC in your case have similarities in that they deal with contact at the bind and how to get around someones guard or defenses. That it takes a certain amount of finesse and trickery rather than just using force to break through or getting lucky when an opponents guard is down. My Sifu has just started teaching me the Chinese two handed longsword and it helped to open my mind n terms of hand relation to the opponents in terms of striking and trapping.
Yes walking along his hand starting from kote, elbow, passing next to him or even behind him. Beautiful applications of fok sao pak sao etc. Only one thing, we are too close to be able to react. I know, feeling the opponent through body rasthrer than optically takes longer time, of course. Paul. 68
No, you “can’t stick” and this book on a***οn says why, Myths and blind spots in the fighting arts’ world. All WC instructors MUST HAVE IT, it tells the truth that should be made known. It challenges your concepts and redirects your training.
Wing Chun would not stand like that. Heels out fold knees close thighs--This seems part of original Wing Chun.-Ernie Moore Jr. My understanding,, Wing Chun is not hands and arms from any legs.-Ernie Moore Jr.
No, you “can’t stick” and this bοοk on a***οn says why, Myths and blind spots in the fighting arts’ world. All WC instructors MUST HAVE IT, it tells the truth that should be made known. It challenges your concepts and redirects your training.
Thank you for having me!!!
Absolutely anytime!!!
Thats a really good idea . why not add wing chun to BJJ/ grapling trainning and vise- versa 🤔
coz Wing chun gonna give all.the tools /skills to punch quick and powerful a very short distance while standing or on the ground and as defense as well..
coz the most fighters when stay on the gride very close distance or on the ground they has not abillity to hit fast and wity power from a short distance
I would create a new martial art the( WingJitsu) who these dominate conxiliate these 2 martial arts can brings a really big trouble to any fight lol
More content like this please. It is so informative. Thanks to the both of you.
More to come!
The wing Tsun kunfa that I learned in the 90s under Keith Fain sifu was a standing grappling art that employed camming , bridging, sticking and striking only to close with and destabilize the adversary in order to sweep, reap or neck clench throw them to the ground. . .then we could finish them on ground by dropping both knees into rib cage or the chest cavity to drive broken ribs through organs as we attack throat.
I also trained and tested under sifu Emin Boztephi.
But Keith Fain Wing Tsun Kunfa we used sticking leg to drive through the lower structure while simultaneously attacking their upper structure to destabilize them for take down.
Our punches were Phoenix eye fist to orbital socket, neck, throat, solar plexus, liver and ribs.
Bil gee fingers to eyes, throat, neck.
Edge of palm chop into neck vitals.
Digital choke seizing strike to trachea.
Oblique kicks into lower structure to check or hyper extend lead leg.
But we enter then stick using both legs and arms simultaneously, trying to get hip to hip contact, then take them down.
Wing Tsun is a standing grappling art with supplemental striking to achieve destabilizing structure.
I haven't heard that theory about being grounded in so much that you are a part of the earth. Thank you for that!
Wing Chun and grappling makes a lot of sense. Handfighting happens a lot in grappling arts. Also when people are mounting another person for ground and pound. They'll hand fight to get strikes in. Trapping range is grappling range.
Absolutely!! 😃🙌
Thank you both so much. This is the aspect of Chinese martial arts that's not talked about enough. It's even a great position when you can get someone to dedicate themselves to grabbing you while you strike at the eyes or face. These methods come up many times in other methods like Xingyiquan, baguazhang and taijiquan although dealt with a bit differently based on their principles.
Our pleasure!
Sifu Nate, brother I just want to say I love you brother and so does Jesus Christ of Nazareth glory hallelujah amen 🥷⚔️🙂😇🙏😁
Happt Holidays to both and thanks for sharing!
Our pleasure!
You guys get a lot of credit for hooking up and collaborating. 😎💯two good people doing positive things. 😉🤟
Thanks brother!! 😃🙏
Yeah! Great collab! I'm a big fan of Kevin Lee!
He’s really great!!
3:02 Gua Choy and threading. Fantastic on that. 💯🤟☑️
My fav bros united togheter to bring Wing Chun forward and just show love for Bruce Lee and Yip Man legacy
It was awesome to finally meet!
Excellent collaboration, you each show a lot of study and practice
Awesome video!
Thanks for the visit
Great video, guys. I really enjoy it when two masters get together and exchange ideas like this. Thanks for sharing.
Marvellous! Just love it.😊
Thank you so much 😀
Marvelous! Need more people like them to make Wing Chun work in any situation when appropriate. Good work 👏👍
Awesome! I started my JKD experience in NJ in the early 1990s. Currently, I live in Aomori and I train with a group doing JKD and Inosanto-Lacoste Kali. I just started with a BJJ group in Aomori as well. Every 3 months I visit Tokyo for Pekiti Tirsia Kali and Bujinkan training. A few months back, Mark Stewart (Boxer Rebellion International) did a seminar in Shibuya hosted by ShinKali. It's great to see other people doing JKD & Wing Chun here in Japan! I'm looking forward to my next Tokyo trip in March (when the Tohoku snow start to melt).
Hey that’s awesome!!! Yeah as fate would have it now I’m living in Tokyo and will sharing Wing Chun and JKD. Feel free to visit us anytime!
@@SifuNate I will be in Tokyo in March for my regular musha shugyo visits. I go on a 10 day musha shugyo every 2-4 months time frame. Work schedule dictates. May I have contact details so I can schedule?
To every counter there is a counter. Chi sau is the perfect exercise to practise , achieve and learn this . Play and have fun with this stuff ❤
Indeed it is my friend! 😃👍
Wow, what an extraordinarily pleasant surprise: Sifu Nate and Kelvin Lee, dedicated to the excellent form of teaching wing chun! Superb video clip!
I like the different concepts for the various wing chun positions and adding grappling from them
Yea it’s amazing!
@@SifuNate brother Nate there is a man named Randy Williams who had a bunch of videos from the 1990's who studied wing chun and jkd concepts he would do chi dau from the guard and mount positions and lots of other things maybe you could investigate about him if you already haven't.God bless you sifu.do you ever talk to Corey who use train at smart karate? Aloha 😇🙏👍🥷😁
Very informative. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
1:24 🀄️absolutely key. Nate made the point to show you guys the 18 hand PAK SAO PARRY one. To deflect with PAK or Fook and after covering or slapping the bridge, his hand is going right in. And just so you guys know. That’s the essence of GAANG SAO to take the outside opening up the inside because he stiffens up. 😎with GAANG we’d block or chop in (left hand) using the arm instead of just the palm/hand. But the premise is still the same. He isolated a limb with his limb, giving himself an inside entry.
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Holy shit the two arm trap into a double blew my mind! 🤯
Kevin is on the right path. Unbalancing and uprooting are the ultimate Control and true to the roots of All Kungfu. Continuous parrying and striking is not truly control, in a survival situation especially. This is why when training grappling the level of technical precision is able to be so high and so standardized. There is a hierarchy and therefore a demonstrable method to establishing dominant positions starting from takedown. With striking, the variables are much more numerous.
While the striking methods and stances across martial arts of many nations can sometimes wildly differ… the part of all those different arts that is grappling usually looks pretty much exactly the same. Wonder why?
Great minds in unison! 👍🏾
It was great to get together!
Nice sharing....cool
Thank you very much!
MORE great info!
More to come!
Wonderful collab! Just subscribed. Peace from Wing Chun in Philadelphia. 🤜✋
Thank you brother! 😃🙏
With your hands on top, you can also drop elbow and rotate forearm outside to inside across center line to angle advantage while entangling the opponent's arms.
Remember Master Sifu's lesson of elbow, elbow, elbow.
Nice video gents🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏
I like to use huen sau when I’m grappling.
Nice!!
I don't see the point until I see this defense working on a full punch coming out of the blue with all its full kinetic energy.
This performance is like dancing or a movie's stunt show.
Where can I get that short sleeve hoodie?
DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?!?
...WANNA PLAY WING CHUN IN THE BACKYARD?
DO I!!!
very interesting calibration! I see Japanese Spiderman has been introduced to Kevin by Jeff Chen? I ended up doing some of what Kevin talked about in this video in Boxing and MMA, and I never learned Wing Chun before but constantly being called the Wing Chun guy by other boxers (I'm Asian probably adds a little). But the real reason probably comes from my extensive HEMA (historical swords) background, I think my willingness to connect hands with opponents give me a good position to strike and grapple from. different path same destination I suppose
Hema and Chinese martial arts particularly WC in your case have similarities in that they deal with contact at the bind and how to get around someones guard or defenses. That it takes a certain amount of finesse and trickery rather than just using force to break through or getting lucky when an opponents guard is down. My Sifu has just started teaching me the Chinese two handed longsword and it helped to open my mind n terms of hand relation to the opponents in terms of striking and trapping.
Glad we got to meet up! That’s a really cool background and makes a lot of sense!
Yes walking along his hand starting from kote, elbow, passing next to him or even behind him. Beautiful applications of fok sao pak sao etc. Only one thing, we are too close to be able to react. I know, feeling the opponent through body rasthrer than optically takes longer time, of course. Paul. 68
Great ideas thanks
❤❤❤❤lovely wing Chun
It is amazing!!
Do you teach regularly in Tokyo?
So impressive 👍
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Cross hand, it is amazing thing , it is?
Nice
これは何の動作ですか?
Francis Fong taught him well.
You’re right!
when i see jkd i feel like just do kickboxing or kyokoshin but wingchung is totaly diffrend
Indeed
armdrag to rear nakid choke
Absolutely
🎉🎉🎉🎉
🙏🙏🙏
Get soft and "Quick"
Yes!!
@@SifuNate you need to eat damage well too with a fragile defence
No, you “can’t stick” and this book on a***οn says why, Myths and blind spots in the fighting arts’ world.
All WC instructors MUST HAVE IT, it tells the truth that should be made known. It challenges your concepts and redirects your training.
Wing Chun would not stand like that. Heels out fold knees close thighs--This seems part of original Wing Chun.-Ernie Moore Jr.
My understanding,, Wing Chun is not hands and arms from any legs.-Ernie Moore Jr.
No, you “can’t stick” and this bοοk on a***οn says why, Myths and blind spots in the fighting arts’ world.
All WC instructors MUST HAVE IT, it tells the truth that should be made known. It challenges your concepts and redirects your training.
Buddy you both need a proper hair cut!
bullshido
Watch him sparring against mma fighter on Jeff Chan channel ,he is really good
Where is your sparring videos
This shit is worthless in a real fight none of this happens. Thousands of year of wasted chinese martial arts
If you think grappling is useless, i have a bridge to sell you.
If you think grappling is useless, i have a bridge to sell you.
Show me your sparring videos