Hey brother!! Someone from my gym saw your breakdown and told me 😂 Good honest feedback on everything and breakdown. It’s definitely tough to keep up with Jeff and his super evasive style. Makes you tired chasing him and he’s in extra fit shape. Mahalo for the share and shoutout!!! 🙏😃🤙
I can't help bragging about it, but I must. I've trained in the same BJJ gym with Jeff, he was teaching kickboxing and myai-thai there as well. Great guy. Great content btw, I enjoy it a lot.
My mate does Shotokan and he loves to do a lazy roundhouse as bait and then side kick you when you try to pressure him afterwards, it's a very effective trap haha
I was lucky to get into a no nonsense Goju Ryu karate club where I trained with two really good martial artists, one was really tall, naturally athletic strong guy with a long reach, and the other a much faster, better fighter I’d say, really zippy and effective. Both taught me how to fight and flow, making every technique count. Now the tall guy’s *side thrust* was was especially good. And his timing and his reach were truly difficult to get past. Lots of set up techniques had to be implemented. The problem with the tall strong guy was that once you penetrated through his guard and long legs, he was a black belt in judo as well, so you were kind screwed. Those were some of my best 25 years of training.
Good exchange here. The first sidekick I received was my first sparring match it knocked the wind out of me.I was shocked because, being used to play boxing on the street Zi never knew someone could reach me from that distance.
Sifu nate is pretty underrated. he really knows what he does! if he gets more fights he and Qi La La could rebuild Wing Chun reputation on MMA Nice video my man
If we can get more wing chun people to spar in their practice and mix in with other styles once in a while I think it could be possible. Thanks for positive comment! 😃🙏
Great breakdown indeed ; you rly showed shifu nate's game and, albeit he did already fight JC earlier, you clearly demonstrate that his game rly improved !
Great video. Looks like these two make a good match. Their individual styles appear to be forcing each other to really concentrate. The first time i got side kicked was from a yellow belt that was sparring for the first time and didnt know how to spar with lightened contact. I was only an orange belt myself and after about the 5th hard punch to the nose i laid him out. But he did side kick me really hard. I remember thinking it was the hardest id ever been kicked up to that point.
Wow combo of these graphics and commentary make you look savantlike Jerry!! Great vid choice and s/o to videographer. Looking forward to the savate vid
Great video, l been a fan to both martial artist, great sparring session. And to answer Jerry question: yes, l been sidekick before and it was the first sidekick I received in my very first sparring session and the sidekick didn't land on the mid section, noooo, it was right to My chin, it didn't knock me out but it did push me across the room. But in time I got better and I been watchful ever since.
I was always told that in wing chun the most important thing is to develop what is called as cun li or inch power using correct structure, the saying "you issue force when you touch the opponent's clothes" comes to mind whenever you practice an art similar or has the body mechanics of internal martial arts such as yiquan or xingyiquan or taiji...etc, i don't if you can do that in the modern format of fighting though.
Sifu Nate has a JKD background. That is why His wingchun looks like Savate. If you learn JKD at a school they teach you (in my lineage) Jun Fan Gong Fu (Bruce Lees Style) as a base. Besides kick's also the approach of JKD is similair.
I got sidekicked on my hip once and it bloody hurt. I felt it for a long time after. I didn't get knocked down but it pushed me back. I smacked him a few times around his ear which blew up red. We both called it quits then and walked away.
The first time I took a really hard side kick was probably while training Sanda when I lived in the Bay Area. I was caught with a classic feint combo - lazy roundhouse that misses and blades the stance, followed by a lead side kick. It knocked the wind out of me, for sure, and I'm lucky it didn't catch a floating rib or my solar plexus. These days, I'm the one dishing out hard side kicks, which feels much better.
I'm ITF TKD, side kicks are its bread & butter, so I got a lot, they aren't as explosive as roundhouse and front kick, but they do work very well for pushing and for stopping an advance. What really got me are spinning back kicks, they are fast, hard to see, explosive and strong, can knock your wind out easily.
Jeff is incredibly smart in what he does. I learn tons of his videos. Hey Jerry, I recommend a light contact kickboxer called Fin Heesom, technique sooo sweet.
In this period, mostly yours. If I can manage to go back to learning japanese ju jitsu, or try kickboxing, I'll definitely return to: - Master Wong - I don't follow him for a long time, but he was the first who inspired a change in attitude. Some of his techniques were made fun of because of not working, but I'm sure he helped a lot of struggling teens start their path towards a better life. - Ramsey Dewey - excellent teaching style and his wisdom was an important step for me getting out of depression caused mostly by vulnerability complex. - Jeff Chan - good teaching, very interesting moving style and I love his sweeps and head movement - Sylvie, the muay thai girl. She's very intelligent, great teacher and has interesting content about styles not covered on most places. She has great merit in documenting muay thai (check out her big library). - Lana Fighting - muay thai lessons - Gabriel Varga - I learned from him an offensive technique which I could pull out many times while sparring (we also did a lot of karate-like sparring at the ju jitsu school). He's a great teacher. It would be great to have them for interview on your channel. Many people underestimate the values martial arts can bring into a person's life (including the capability to make more money with that different attitude, which is a less-discussed secondary effect). You didn't ask but I'll answer anyway: your channel has great value in showing us the world of martial arts. What works and what doesn't. Being aware of fake instructors. And an excellent attitude towards those who risk being beaten up for the sake of getting their reality checks (not including impostors, of course).
I don’t remember the first time I got side kicked, but I do remember being in ATA as a blue belt, and one of the black belts hit me with a decent sidekick during live sparring. I did end up being moved a couple feet back, which was fun lol
I was goofing off with one of friends in the middle of gym class and i ran into a side kick to the side, got my wind knocked out and had to sit on the ground in the middle of class all embarassed
Each time he blocks and simultaneously punches he should put his hands back in position to block the next one, like chain punching but with blocks. every time he landed a punch he received one because he didint do this.
You know the way Sean Strickland blocks, reminds me of Wing Chun; not in form, but in how he applies them. He'd probably think WC is dumb, but I wonder what he'd do with that style of blocking and sensitivity. (P.s. although he might not think its dumb, because his fellow former UFC champion, Anderson Silva, even used some wing chun)
The first time i was side kicked was from my father. He was a sixth degree blackbelt in our system at the time and i was brown (i think). He kicked me so hard i flew a few feet back with the wind knocked out of me. His response was: "You dripped your guard." Had a nasty bruise along mu ribs for a while after that. Wouldnt trade the story for anything though.
That quick switch kick is in the wooden dummy form. But overall you can definitely see the difference between Wing Chun and JKD Wing Chun. Even in really good fighters both have their own unique weaknesses. This JKD sifu biggest weakness is to overhand punches, they come up right over his guard. Really its his hand position overall leaves his face open. His strength is his side kick.
I haven't been sidekicked in a fight or sparring, but I did get hit hard doing partner drills in sanda as a teenager. My partner had about 100lbs on me and decided to go hard. Even though I had a thick pad on my waist I still had the wind knocked out of me
I was 15 y/o when I was side kicked hard. I was a white belt in Wado Ryu at the time. It was my 2nd time sparring and my partner (torturer) was 3rd dan in another karate system prior to joining our dojo. I was knocked in to the wall and she (3rd dan) just started to pummel me until I dove rolled to escape. I drank hot tea and ate a pizza slice to feel better after.
One of two times I've been liver shot is from catching a sidekick, trying to rush in to kick out the support leg, only to have my partner retract the kicking leg and refire the sidekick. It feels like you're getting poisoned with ice spreading out from the liver
Wing Chung uses no gloves as it would be a great hinderance in striking and blocking but I guess this would be modified form which definitely can’t equally compare
I got side kicked hard when I was in primary-age training TKD. At that time, we were playing a game with both players (1on1) in a boundary, and then players took turns performing a movement to make their partner out of the boundary, one movement per turn. I had to face a partner who was way taller than me. My partner made a Bruce Lee-style sidekick (should it still be counted as 'one movement' given that you need to move your back leg first and then launch your front leg). Then I fell on the ground with both hands and legs pointed to the roof.
My first time getting side kicked, I actually broke a personal cardinal rule: I ate a big burrito less than 15 minutes ahead of class. During class, I was spacey and out of it, and it was sparring night. Match time came, and the other guy opened with 3 side kicks to the gut I completely failed to contest. I looked at him for like 5 seconds.... then sprinted to the bathroom to yack all that burrito out. I was good to spar after that, but understandably, nobody wanted to trade hands with me 😅
Ouch! I recently ate a burrito after many months not eating one and I noticed the same spaceyness. Thank goodness I didn’t spar! Thanks for sharing your story!
i got side kicked by some heavy weight karate enthusiast at a mma gym. it was my first time and i remember coach telling him to relax and telling him it was my first time. the guy had flicked my lead hand while chambering his kick and the my body was completely open. I landed 2 meters away from where is stood
Nate has improved since his first match against Jeff Chan, yet as a wing chun guy he could truly benefit from maintaining his basics better. Smaller tighter arm movements, gap closing harder as he is doing here, and keeping his rear hand up. All Jeff has been doing is maintaining better basics than Nate in this match. As well as evasive footwork and attacks.
Why does is say vs MMA there is zero wrestling or BJJ and Jeff didn't take charge until the guy got tired may have been part of his strategy but for me he didn't make MMA look very dominant
The guy in the pink shorts was definitely dominating 100% of the time. The commentator doesn’t seem to notice talking about. I’ve seen good wing Chun fighters, and even if the commentator is a wing Chun super enthusiast, The wing Chun demonstration in this video is below average sooo……
Wing chun has no place against MMA. Dude’s going at like 5-10%. If he went hard, Sifu Nate would get destroyed. No power, no take down defense. Leave wing chun in the park with 70 year olds where it belongs, next to the 80 year olds doing tai chi.
No, just let him pressure test wing chun and become a better martial artist. Jeff is a professional mma fighter and is more experienced as a fighter. Ofcourse he's going easy. He's having fun sparring Sifu Nate and experiencing different marital arts. If more such martial artists appear who pressure test wing chun, it will probably be in a better position as a martial arts in the near future than it is compared to now.
Hey brother!! Someone from my gym saw your breakdown and told me 😂
Good honest feedback on everything and breakdown. It’s definitely tough to keep up with Jeff and his super evasive style. Makes you tired chasing him and he’s in extra fit shape. Mahalo for the share and shoutout!!! 🙏😃🤙
I’m so glad you saw this! We should interview you some time if you’re interested!
LOL gotta make Sifu Nate and I work after all the crazy good food in Tokyo. Looking forward to more breakdowns and videos with Sifu!
I can't help bragging about it, but I must. I've trained in the same BJJ gym with Jeff, he was teaching kickboxing and myai-thai there as well. Great guy. Great content btw, I enjoy it a lot.
Very cool! Tell Jeff I would love to interview him! I reached out to him on IG, but I think he's been busy.
You training at Tristar?
Jeff's channel is always a treat to watch , and he is a true martial artist
My mate does Shotokan and he loves to do a lazy roundhouse as bait and then side kick you when you try to pressure him afterwards, it's a very effective trap haha
Great breakdown, Jerry. I think Sifu Nate studied JKD too, and some JKD schools/curriculums include material from Savate.
That makes a lot of sense!
Yes you’re right! Wing Chun does also have these low leg kicks as well but probably I’m mixing the two together in my execution 😃🙏
Yes, I have had the wind knocked out of me with a side kick.
I was lucky to get into a no nonsense Goju Ryu karate club where I trained with two really good martial artists, one was really tall, naturally athletic strong guy with a long reach, and the other a much faster, better fighter I’d say, really zippy and effective. Both taught me how to fight and flow, making every technique count.
Now the tall guy’s *side thrust* was was especially good. And his timing and his reach were truly difficult to get past. Lots of set up techniques had to be implemented.
The problem with the tall strong guy was that once you penetrated through his guard and long legs, he was a black belt in judo as well, so you were kind screwed.
Those were some of my best 25 years of training.
Good exchange here. The first sidekick I received was my first sparring match it knocked the wind out of me.I was shocked because, being used to play boxing on the street Zi never knew someone could reach me from that distance.
Sifu nate is pretty underrated. he really knows what he does! if he gets more fights he and Qi La La could rebuild Wing Chun reputation on MMA
Nice video my man
If we can get more wing chun people to spar in their practice and mix in with other styles once in a while I think it could be possible. Thanks for positive comment! 😃🙏
I can keep my Xing Yi stance for the first two rounds. Pressure does not add up linearly, it power curves as you are getting exhausted
Great breakdown indeed ; you rly showed shifu nate's game and, albeit he did already fight JC earlier, you clearly demonstrate that his game rly improved !
Thanks!! 😃🙏
Great video. Looks like these two make a good match. Their individual styles appear to be forcing each other to really concentrate.
The first time i got side kicked was from a yellow belt that was sparring for the first time and didnt know how to spar with lightened contact. I was only an orange belt myself and after about the 5th hard punch to the nose i laid him out. But he did side kick me really hard. I remember thinking it was the hardest id ever been kicked up to that point.
Wow combo of these graphics and commentary make you look savantlike Jerry!! Great vid choice and s/o to videographer. Looking forward to the savate vid
To add: a really good sparring session from both men. A good flow.
Thanks!!! 😃🙏
Perhaps Jerry need to make a ‘Jeff Chan playlist’ in the playlist of the channel.
Good idea!
Great video, l been a fan to both martial artist, great sparring session. And to answer Jerry question: yes, l been sidekick before and it was the first sidekick I received in my very first sparring session and the sidekick didn't land on the mid section, noooo, it was right to My chin, it didn't knock me out but it did push me across the room. But in time I got better and I been watchful ever since.
Thanks for watching and following us!! 🙏
I was always told that in wing chun the most important thing is to develop what is called as cun li or inch power using correct structure, the saying "you issue force when you touch the opponent's clothes" comes to mind whenever you practice an art similar or has the body mechanics of internal martial arts such as yiquan or xingyiquan or taiji...etc, i don't if you can do that in the modern format of fighting though.
Sifu Nate has a JKD background. That is why His wingchun looks like Savate.
If you learn JKD at a school they teach you (in my lineage) Jun Fan Gong Fu (Bruce Lees Style) as a base.
Besides kick's also the approach of JKD is similair.
I got sidekicked on my hip once and it bloody hurt. I felt it for a long time after. I didn't get knocked down but it pushed me back. I smacked him a few times around his ear which blew up red. We both called it quits then and walked away.
Was this sparring or a fight?
They both are really good and pleasure to watch
🙏🙏
You should react to jeff chan trying wing chun chain punch! It's quite effective (for closing distance, though)
Yeah he did use it well in another video!
Amazing breakdown vid. And great fight from both fighters. Awesome🎉🎉🎉
Thanks!! 😃🙏
The first time I took a really hard side kick was probably while training Sanda when I lived in the Bay Area. I was caught with a classic feint combo - lazy roundhouse that misses and blades the stance, followed by a lead side kick. It knocked the wind out of me, for sure, and I'm lucky it didn't catch a floating rib or my solar plexus.
These days, I'm the one dishing out hard side kicks, which feels much better.
Beautiful fight
Thanks! 🙏
I'm ITF TKD, side kicks are its bread & butter, so I got a lot, they aren't as explosive as roundhouse and front kick, but they do work very well for pushing and for stopping an advance.
What really got me are spinning back kicks, they are fast, hard to see, explosive and strong, can knock your wind out easily.
Super interesting
Jeff is incredibly smart in what he does. I learn tons of his videos. Hey Jerry, I recommend a light contact kickboxer called Fin Heesom, technique sooo sweet.
Will take a look. Got any videos that you like the most from Fin?
@@FightCommentary WAKO British national championships 2023. Very precise work.
Distance management and timing are so important and Fin does both really well.
I need a second like button for this video.
Means a lot to me! Thanks! What other channels do you follow, btw?
In this period, mostly yours. If I can manage to go back to learning japanese ju jitsu, or try kickboxing, I'll definitely return to:
- Master Wong - I don't follow him for a long time, but he was the first who inspired a change in attitude. Some of his techniques were made fun of because of not working, but I'm sure he helped a lot of struggling teens start their path towards a better life.
- Ramsey Dewey - excellent teaching style and his wisdom was an important step for me getting out of depression caused mostly by vulnerability complex.
- Jeff Chan - good teaching, very interesting moving style and I love his sweeps and head movement
- Sylvie, the muay thai girl. She's very intelligent, great teacher and has interesting content about styles not covered on most places. She has great merit in documenting muay thai (check out her big library).
- Lana Fighting - muay thai lessons
- Gabriel Varga - I learned from him an offensive technique which I could pull out many times while sparring (we also did a lot of karate-like sparring at the ju jitsu school). He's a great teacher.
It would be great to have them for interview on your channel.
Many people underestimate the values martial arts can bring into a person's life (including the capability to make more money with that different attitude, which is a less-discussed secondary effect).
You didn't ask but I'll answer anyway: your channel has great value in showing us the world of martial arts. What works and what doesn't. Being aware of fake instructors. And an excellent attitude towards those who risk being beaten up for the sake of getting their reality checks (not including impostors, of course).
Sifu nate is good! I like his stuff and i appreciate jeff for pushing sifu nate's style of fighting.
Thank you! Jeff is a great sparring partner!! 😃🙏
@@SifuNate ✌️
I don’t remember the first time I got side kicked, but I do remember being in ATA as a blue belt, and one of the black belts hit me with a decent sidekick during live sparring. I did end up being moved a couple feet back, which was fun lol
Yeah i been side kick to to my torso took my breath away had to stand still and look like im not affected
I was goofing off with one of friends in the middle of gym class and i ran into a side kick to the side, got my wind knocked out and had to sit on the ground in the middle of class all embarassed
Each time he blocks and simultaneously punches he should put his hands back in position to block the next one, like chain punching but with blocks. every time he landed a punch he received one because he didint do this.
walked into a spinning back kick to the solar plexus once, felt like near death bloody hell
You know the way Sean Strickland blocks, reminds me of Wing Chun; not in form, but in how he applies them. He'd probably think WC is dumb, but I wonder what he'd do with that style of blocking and sensitivity.
(P.s. although he might not think its dumb, because his fellow former UFC champion, Anderson Silva, even used some wing chun)
The first time i was side kicked was from my father. He was a sixth degree blackbelt in our system at the time and i was brown (i think). He kicked me so hard i flew a few feet back with the wind knocked out of me.
His response was: "You dripped your guard."
Had a nasty bruise along mu ribs for a while after that. Wouldnt trade the story for anything though.
That quick switch kick is in the wooden dummy form. But overall you can definitely see the difference between Wing Chun and JKD Wing Chun. Even in really good fighters both have their own unique weaknesses. This JKD sifu biggest weakness is to overhand punches, they come up right over his guard. Really its his hand position overall leaves his face open. His strength is his side kick.
I haven't been sidekicked in a fight or sparring, but I did get hit hard doing partner drills in sanda as a teenager. My partner had about 100lbs on me and decided to go hard. Even though I had a thick pad on my waist I still had the wind knocked out of me
Ouch!
I was 15 y/o when I was side kicked hard. I was a white belt in Wado Ryu at the time. It was my 2nd time sparring and my partner (torturer) was 3rd dan in another karate system prior to joining our dojo. I was knocked in to the wall and she (3rd dan) just started to pummel me until I dove rolled to escape. I drank hot tea and ate a pizza slice to feel better after.
Did you spar her again when you got better?
One of two times I've been liver shot is from catching a sidekick, trying to rush in to kick out the support leg, only to have my partner retract the kicking leg and refire the sidekick. It feels like you're getting poisoned with ice spreading out from the liver
Ouch!
He looks like savate cause Sifu Nate's style is a mixture of JKD and traditional Wing Chun.
Yes that’s right! 😃🙏
Wing Chung uses no gloves as it would be a great hinderance in striking and blocking but I guess this would be modified form which definitely can’t equally compare
I got side kicked hard when I was in primary-age training TKD. At that time, we were playing a game with both players (1on1) in a boundary, and then players took turns performing a movement to make their partner out of the boundary, one movement per turn. I had to face a partner who was way taller than me. My partner made a Bruce Lee-style sidekick (should it still be counted as 'one movement' given that you need to move your back leg first and then launch your front leg). Then I fell on the ground with both hands and legs pointed to the roof.
How long did you train TKD?
@@FightCommentary 3 years in primary school
My first time getting side kicked, I actually broke a personal cardinal rule: I ate a big burrito less than 15 minutes ahead of class. During class, I was spacey and out of it, and it was sparring night. Match time came, and the other guy opened with 3 side kicks to the gut I completely failed to contest. I looked at him for like 5 seconds.... then sprinted to the bathroom to yack all that burrito out. I was good to spar after that, but understandably, nobody wanted to trade hands with me 😅
Ouch! I recently ate a burrito after many months not eating one and I noticed the same spaceyness. Thank goodness I didn’t spar! Thanks for sharing your story!
i got side kicked by some heavy weight karate enthusiast at a mma gym. it was my first time and i remember coach telling him to relax and telling him it was my first time. the guy had flicked my lead hand while chambering his kick and the my body was completely open. I landed 2 meters away from where is stood
Ouch! Hopefully the karate guy learned to spar softer.
My first capoeira teacher side kicked my arm and almost dislocated my shoulder 😂
Nate has improved since his first match against Jeff Chan, yet as a wing chun guy he could truly benefit from maintaining his basics better.
Smaller tighter arm movements, gap closing harder as he is doing here, and keeping his rear hand up.
All Jeff has been doing is maintaining better basics than Nate in this match. As well as evasive footwork and attacks.
First time i got side kicked was by a tarkwondo itf guy in an exchange training. I got kicked so hard i tumbled back
Sifu Nate in this video is using JKD, not WC.
With wing Chun you're most likely kicking with shoes on also .
Why does is say vs MMA there is zero wrestling or BJJ and Jeff didn't take charge until the guy got tired may have been part of his strategy but for me he didn't make MMA look very dominant
That's Jeet Kune Do.
The guy in the pink shorts was definitely dominating 100% of the time. The commentator doesn’t seem to notice talking about. I’ve seen good wing Chun fighters, and even if the commentator is a wing Chun super enthusiast, The wing Chun demonstration in this video is below average sooo……
You are more than welcome to share us any clips you think represent wing chun better.
Wing chun has no place against MMA. Dude’s going at like 5-10%. If he went hard, Sifu Nate would get destroyed. No power, no take down defense. Leave wing chun in the park with 70 year olds where it belongs, next to the 80 year olds doing tai chi.
No, just let him pressure test wing chun and become a better martial artist. Jeff is a professional mma fighter and is more experienced as a fighter. Ofcourse he's going easy. He's having fun sparring Sifu Nate and experiencing different marital arts. If more such martial artists appear who pressure test wing chun, it will probably be in a better position as a martial arts in the near future than it is compared to now.
Also this is a light sparring and very controlled which makes it perfect for trying out and fine tuning obscure techniques.