It absolutely baffles me how fast fighters can adapt. I was struggling the whole video just to memorize what was shown. And the MMA guy adapted so fast and naturally.
I'm assuming it's similar to movements he's done with other martial arts. It's certainly impressive to have gotten to that level of mastery.@@manfredselak267
I'll admit I have often made fun of wing chun over the years, the people I've seen in person who practiced it (or most traditional martial arts really) weren't very impressive, to say it politely. You made it look so beautiful and functional, liked your sparring with Jeff too very cool application. I think I'll stick around and watch more, I kind of like this.
Anyone can pick up a paint brush... but very few become Masterclass level Oil Painters... even with the best of Instruction. Most are simply not willing to put in the required hardcore time and efforts, to develop their skills to a high / master level. Because Kung Fu systems have a LOT more Techniques to learn and Master... makes things even worse, because people spend most of their time and efforts learning NEW things.. without ever going back and mastering any of it. This is why most of them fail, even against far more simplistic arts methods. I was one of the rare few whom trained the art Hardcore. This included a daily 1hr CORE workout routine. WC specific drills and attribute building exercises. Full Iron Body conditioning. And much more. I did between 4 and 8hrs of efforts, every single day, for a solid 5 years, before easing up. I also started to spar, heavy contact.. against various different artists, after my first year. I sparred almost every weekend. Many of the fighters I sparred against, were also much larger and stronger. I often chose them for that very reason... to be able to challenge my abilities, in the worst case scenario's... to make sure I could do well in a real barefist fight situation. Additionally, I cross trained in other arts methods, to best know the "Enemy"... and just because I also loved being able to do all of it. I can throw excellent TKD / Muay Thai kicks, Boxing Strikes, Some Shaolin Longfist and Wushu Acrobatic movements / feats. Some Tai Chi. And even some meditation and advanced breathing methods... from Indian Origins (which are also duplicated in non-corrupted Chinese martial arts systems). At first, I was trash. It takes a long time to fully understand the arts methods... and then, being able to perform things correctly, under fast and heavy combat stresses. But by my 3rd year, it was difficult for the local blackbelts of various well known arts, to be able to get any hits on me. By my 5th year, I had developed Lethal short range power output potentials. I Used to KO fighters from less than 6 inches of travel, via a 15% level vertical fist to their foreheads (only used KO level forces, when fighters were being very disrespectful. To date, 4 different fighters were Knocked out this way. 3 of which were from the same Jujitsu school, at their Open House sparring event). Wing Chun is a lot more effective than people realize (As are other even Deeper artforms of China). But, most will never know it... due to extremely closed minds... and the lack of experiencing a Master Class level Chinese arts fighter, that both knows what heck he is doing, and whom can do effectively, even in a "Limited" response format... heavy contact, sparring match.
Nate is such a great teacher, would like to learn WC from him one day, Jeff did awesome, would like to see a vid where he uses these techniques in sparring!
Originally, the wooden dummy did not have moving limbs. This made it slightly better for Conditioning (hardening) the arms, hands, fist, leg, foot..etc. The pole was buried deep into the Dirt, for maximum stability and to take the hardest impacts, without any movement. Yipman needed a dummy that could be placed into his modern Apartment... so he got a woodworker to create a new version. The moving arms serve a special purpose. When you use your WC hand movements, the limbs are partially pushed out of the way. This allows you to share the lines of attack/defense... rather than the dummys limbs always owning the lines. When the dummy had static limbs... you had to use additional Footwork steps, to move your body into different Alignments of the limbs... since you could not move the arms at all. Thus, the original dummy form was a lot more complicated, and a lot more Confusing. The main issue with the modern dummy arms... is that their movement requires a very thin section of wood... so that the two arms can be close enough together. That thin wood section of the arms... can easily break, when too much power is used on them. As such, you will often visit a WC school, and see a dummy with a missing / broken arm. Bruce Lee wanted to use his dummy for heavier conditioning, so he had a metal worker... create metal limbs for it. Or course, the dummy isnt supposed to be about mere rigid brute strength either. Its to be able to learn how to Fluidly Flow, as well as to learn how to align yourself with 100% Precision, to it. Maintaining the proper angles, alignments, and distances away from the dummy... is key. Poor footwork, can easily ruin all of your alignments to the limbs... as well as ruin your entire Structure. You dont really Need a dummy to practice and master WC. The dummy is mostly for training... when you dont have a partner to train with. You can also condition your arms and fists, using other methods, such as the Sandbags... and or Impact-Grinding on vertical metal poles.
Damn this looks awesome! Though it also makes me believe that before learning Wing Chun it would help to learn how to box first (or in reference to another video I've seen, grappling. Basically any "fundamental art" first). Though I do wonder, with the drill that was taught where you would redirect the punches away, it looks like you would need to already be past the boxer's punching or jab range so that you can maintain that sensitivity. Two questions arise from this. First, is it better to chase the opponent if they retreat after taking their punches? Second, is it better to try to rush in so you can get in their face or wait till they come to you then punish them for it?
Also glad that we are showing here that the feet in Wing Chun aren't static when striking and appropriate adjustments can be made to stance to still hit with structure and power
Jeff great to see your interest in the Wing Chun dummy. Looks like awesome technique exploration! Please come checkout my Dummy work dude. It's geared for MMA and boxing... I'm at Eric Hibler's mma 👊💀
I loved the video and I really appreciate the great dissemination job you guys are doing. However, as a beginner in WC, I noticed there is so much power and little control or technique focus in this lesson. Just an observation, thanks for the content!
He needs to learn how to apply a better pressure direction against the dummy cause he is going down with the paksao instead of aiming to the head. He needs to do more chisao I suppose 😂. Great vid, anyway! Love the way Jeff is open minded with traditional martial arts ❤
I would be interested to see them spare in the cage. It would be great how Jeff would defend himself if he was cornered; which is where wing chun thrives a lot.
We will have more sparring in the future. In the recent video. There were a few cornered spots. Also kept up close as much as possible this time. He’s super evasive though. Hope you get a chance to check out and stay tuned for more. Maybe next time we can film the sparring in the cage.
A "Cage" lol. What does a Cage have anything to do with changing a fight?! MMA/UFC Fencing is flexible and absorbing of shock. If you want a real hardcore fight, you put two dudes into a deep pit that has Solid Concrete Walls, and Concrete Flooring. The UFC / MMA gyms use Rubberized flooring, and the ring itself has shock absorbing mechanisms built into it. I met an MMA fighter, that got Jumped by 3 dudes in CA. He managed to get the biggest one to the pavement.. and tried the "Ground and Pound" method. Can you Guess what happened to him? Since sport fighters never condition their bare fists... and since this dudes head was flat on solid pavement / concrete... he managed to drive his own middle knuckle, about 1cm deep into his Own fist. He now is Permanently Disfigured, as a result. He was also extremely lucky that the other dudes were cowards that didnt know how to fight... and ran away quickly. Not to mention, that any of them could have been carrying a weapon... and could have sliced him up, while he was trying to grapple with one of them on the Ground. As for Wing Chun supposedly Thriving while being "Cornered"... that speaks to a certain level of Ignorance. Sure, it helps when the OP cant easily escape. But that applies for pretty much Every art! >_< Which actually... showcases the main differences between sport fighting / sparring... and actual barefist exchanges. You see... when some at the club, thinks that you Grabbed his Girls behind... he isnt going to hop around in and out of range, like a bunny rabbit. He is charging in fully committed, like a Freight Train / Bull. He is often more than willing to eat one of your strikes, while he is continuously dishing out his own punches... non-stop. He wont stop, until either your face has been pummeled into a puddle of Goo... or... you have managed to stop him. Regardless... Wing Chun can in fact be used to spar, effectively with. The main key, is to be able to intercept and counter... the very moment the OP steps in. Trying to Chase the OP that is trying to run away, is never a great option. It can be done... but its also dangerous... and it tends to be a waste of energy as well. You see, eventually any Fighter that is in a sparring situation... will get board, and they will eventually step in, and try to launch an attack at you. When their light jabbing fails to do anything meaningful (easily deflected away)... They will eventually throw an attack that is Fully Committed + Heavy. Its at that point, when you are in the best possible situation... to execute a devastating deflection + trapping arms + counter strike flurry.
thanks for the lesson!!!!
Anytime brother!!!! 😃🙌
Nate is a great teacher. Knows exactly how proficient his student is and can explain in simple terms to convey the philosophy
😃🙏 Mahalo!
Só o aikido é para mim
That "snapping" at the point of striking was so cool! I'm totally practicing and notice major power improvement!
It’s a game changer! 😃🙌
Both these guys are excellent teachers/students. Respect.
Thanks!
Awesome video… I’m at the dinner doing the techniques as I’m following along… Always wanted to train Wing Chun… Very cool stuff ✊🏾🔥✊🏾🔥
I love this series, please learn more wing chun try to understand the system and teach your audience how to use the principles, great job!
Two real gentleman and humble fighters,i am waiting for my wooden dummy i hope that it arrives next week and can enjoy it,greets from Valencia Spain
He learns fast 😂
Yes indeed! 😃👍
It absolutely baffles me how fast fighters can adapt. I was struggling the whole video just to memorize what was shown. And the MMA guy adapted so fast and naturally.
I'm assuming it's similar to movements he's done with other martial arts. It's certainly impressive to have gotten to that level of mastery.@@manfredselak267
I'll admit I have often made fun of wing chun over the years, the people I've seen in person who practiced it (or most traditional martial arts really) weren't very impressive, to say it politely.
You made it look so beautiful and functional, liked your sparring with Jeff too very cool application.
I think I'll stick around and watch more, I kind of like this.
Anyone can pick up a paint brush... but very few become Masterclass level Oil Painters... even with the best of Instruction. Most are simply not willing to put in the required hardcore time and efforts, to develop their skills to a high / master level. Because Kung Fu systems have a LOT more Techniques to learn and Master... makes things even worse, because people spend most of their time and efforts learning NEW things.. without ever going back and mastering any of it. This is why most of them fail, even against far more simplistic arts methods.
I was one of the rare few whom trained the art Hardcore. This included a daily 1hr CORE workout routine. WC specific drills and attribute building exercises. Full Iron Body conditioning. And much more. I did between 4 and 8hrs of efforts, every single day, for a solid 5 years, before easing up. I also started to spar, heavy contact.. against various different artists, after my first year. I sparred almost every weekend. Many of the fighters I sparred against, were also much larger and stronger. I often chose them for that very reason... to be able to challenge my abilities, in the worst case scenario's... to make sure I could do well in a real barefist fight situation. Additionally, I cross trained in other arts methods, to best know the "Enemy"... and just because I also loved being able to do all of it. I can throw excellent TKD / Muay Thai kicks, Boxing Strikes, Some Shaolin Longfist and Wushu Acrobatic movements / feats. Some Tai Chi. And even some meditation and advanced breathing methods... from Indian Origins (which are also duplicated in non-corrupted Chinese martial arts systems).
At first, I was trash. It takes a long time to fully understand the arts methods... and then, being able to perform things correctly, under fast and heavy combat stresses. But by my 3rd year, it was difficult for the local blackbelts of various well known arts, to be able to get any hits on me. By my 5th year, I had developed Lethal short range power output potentials. I Used to KO fighters from less than 6 inches of travel, via a 15% level vertical fist to their foreheads (only used KO level forces, when fighters were being very disrespectful. To date, 4 different fighters were Knocked out this way. 3 of which were from the same Jujitsu school, at their Open House sparring event).
Wing Chun is a lot more effective than people realize (As are other even Deeper artforms of China). But, most will never know it... due to extremely closed minds... and the lack of experiencing a Master Class level Chinese arts fighter, that both knows what heck he is doing, and whom can do effectively, even in a "Limited" response format... heavy contact, sparring match.
Very cool practice
Love wing chun, and the Dummy is such a great training tool
Shame them men can't respect you both, and wait till you finish the filming!
Thank you! Yeah I’m sorry about the background. There ended up being another private session I didn’t know about when we filmed.
That’s great Nate! You and JEFF! Fantastic bud! 😎💥👍💯
Glad to see Chinese martial arts getting some appreciation.
I love wing chun, I use it to supplement my martial arts. Love the ability to stick, trap, and the speed of the punches. Great stuff!
Nate is such a great teacher, would like to learn WC from him one day, Jeff did awesome, would like to see a vid where he uses these techniques in sparring!
Yes! I think you will see it!
I practiced choy li fut for a decade; this series is making me curious to try wing chun!
Definitely try it. I trained with a older guy who knew both from the bay area. He blended both VERY well.
You look like young bruce lee! Please post more videos like streaming when you have free time. I love watching your videos
Good vid!
Thanks!
Interesting pedagogy, keep up the good work ! 🙌
Love the video like I always said learn everything the you can from diferent arts and use it for you own system be humble and respect other arts
Agreed! Thanks! 😊🙏
Originally, the wooden dummy did not have moving limbs. This made it slightly better for Conditioning (hardening) the arms, hands, fist, leg, foot..etc. The pole was buried deep into the Dirt, for maximum stability and to take the hardest impacts, without any movement. Yipman needed a dummy that could be placed into his modern Apartment... so he got a woodworker to create a new version. The moving arms serve a special purpose. When you use your WC hand movements, the limbs are partially pushed out of the way. This allows you to share the lines of attack/defense... rather than the dummys limbs always owning the lines. When the dummy had static limbs... you had to use additional Footwork steps, to move your body into different Alignments of the limbs... since you could not move the arms at all. Thus, the original dummy form was a lot more complicated, and a lot more Confusing.
The main issue with the modern dummy arms... is that their movement requires a very thin section of wood... so that the two arms can be close enough together. That thin wood section of the arms... can easily break, when too much power is used on them. As such, you will often visit a WC school, and see a dummy with a missing / broken arm.
Bruce Lee wanted to use his dummy for heavier conditioning, so he had a metal worker... create metal limbs for it.
Or course, the dummy isnt supposed to be about mere rigid brute strength either. Its to be able to learn how to Fluidly Flow, as well as to learn how to align yourself with 100% Precision, to it. Maintaining the proper angles, alignments, and distances away from the dummy... is key. Poor footwork, can easily ruin all of your alignments to the limbs... as well as ruin your entire Structure.
You dont really Need a dummy to practice and master WC. The dummy is mostly for training... when you dont have a partner to train with. You can also condition your arms and fists, using other methods, such as the Sandbags... and or Impact-Grinding on vertical metal poles.
Good teacher!
Great episode
Great video Nate! Do you offere online lessons?
Great video
Damn this looks awesome! Though it also makes me believe that before learning Wing Chun it would help to learn how to box first (or in reference to another video I've seen, grappling. Basically any "fundamental art" first). Though I do wonder, with the drill that was taught where you would redirect the punches away, it looks like you would need to already be past the boxer's punching or jab range so that you can maintain that sensitivity. Two questions arise from this. First, is it better to chase the opponent if they retreat after taking their punches? Second, is it better to try to rush in so you can get in their face or wait till they come to you then punish them for it?
Also glad that we are showing here that the feet in Wing Chun aren't static when striking and appropriate adjustments can be made to stance to still hit with structure and power
MMA wing Chun fans are eating good
Haha right!
I wish there was a Wing Chun School near me 😅
Jeff great to see your interest in the Wing Chun dummy. Looks like awesome technique exploration!
Please come checkout my Dummy work dude. It's geared for MMA and boxing... I'm at Eric Hibler's mma 👊💀
I loved the video and I really appreciate the great dissemination job you guys are doing. However, as a beginner in WC, I noticed there is so much power and little control or technique focus in this lesson. Just an observation, thanks for the content!
He needs to learn how to apply a better pressure direction against the dummy cause he is going down with the paksao instead of aiming to the head. He needs to do more chisao I suppose 😂. Great vid, anyway! Love the way Jeff is open minded with traditional martial arts ❤
Y'all should spar with GingerNinjaTrickster.
This Guy is Basically Bruce Lee
Hi sir I'm from India I have join your class
What martial art styles are all in jkd
Ola muy buenos días por favor quiero aprender
Hello, nice sharing, I love commercial arts, thanks for sharing, a subscription from me, good luck.
I would be interested to see them spare in the cage. It would be great how Jeff would defend himself if he was cornered; which is where wing chun thrives a lot.
you want to see jeff or nate spar in the cage ? cause jeff has had professional fights in the cage
@zibafu I just want to see a sparing match in a cage between these two. They spared on a video on Jeff's channel, and it was pretty awesome.
We will have more sparring in the future. In the recent video. There were a few cornered spots. Also kept up close as much as possible this time. He’s super evasive though. Hope you get a chance to check out and stay tuned for more. Maybe next time we can film the sparring in the cage.
A "Cage" lol. What does a Cage have anything to do with changing a fight?! MMA/UFC Fencing is flexible and absorbing of shock. If you want a real hardcore fight, you put two dudes into a deep pit that has Solid Concrete Walls, and Concrete Flooring. The UFC / MMA gyms use Rubberized flooring, and the ring itself has shock absorbing mechanisms built into it.
I met an MMA fighter, that got Jumped by 3 dudes in CA. He managed to get the biggest one to the pavement.. and tried the "Ground and Pound" method. Can you Guess what happened to him? Since sport fighters never condition their bare fists... and since this dudes head was flat on solid pavement / concrete... he managed to drive his own middle knuckle, about 1cm deep into his Own fist. He now is Permanently Disfigured, as a result. He was also extremely lucky that the other dudes were cowards that didnt know how to fight... and ran away quickly. Not to mention, that any of them could have been carrying a weapon... and could have sliced him up, while he was trying to grapple with one of them on the Ground.
As for Wing Chun supposedly Thriving while being "Cornered"... that speaks to a certain level of Ignorance. Sure, it helps when the OP cant easily escape. But that applies for pretty much Every art! >_< Which actually... showcases the main differences between sport fighting / sparring... and actual barefist exchanges. You see... when some at the club, thinks that you Grabbed his Girls behind... he isnt going to hop around in and out of range, like a bunny rabbit. He is charging in fully committed, like a Freight Train / Bull. He is often more than willing to eat one of your strikes, while he is continuously dishing out his own punches... non-stop. He wont stop, until either your face has been pummeled into a puddle of Goo... or... you have managed to stop him.
Regardless... Wing Chun can in fact be used to spar, effectively with. The main key, is to be able to intercept and counter... the very moment the OP steps in. Trying to Chase the OP that is trying to run away, is never a great option. It can be done... but its also dangerous... and it tends to be a waste of energy as well. You see, eventually any Fighter that is in a sparring situation... will get board, and they will eventually step in, and try to launch an attack at you. When their light jabbing fails to do anything meaningful (easily deflected away)... They will eventually throw an attack that is Fully Committed + Heavy. Its at that point, when you are in the best possible situation... to execute a devastating deflection + trapping arms + counter strike flurry.
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realize that I'm not reading this lol
how are you...someday ...I´d like to practice ....
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Hey Nate, my name is also Nate.
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to be honest thats such a fake sport mma or boxing or myai thai or wrestling are the sports you need