ZackGrooves Hears Architects For The First Time
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- ZackGrooves is a RUclipsr, jazz drummer, and chops master.
He'd never call himself a rock or metal player - and that's exactly why we dared him to play "Doomsday" by modern metal/rock band, Architects.
Zack has never heard the song, let alone the band. We gave him the drumless track and asked him to come up with a drum part.
He said it's like nothing he's ever played. But his interpretation is refreshing and even gets surprisingly close to Dan Searle's original parts at times. From syncopated grooves to ghost notes and cool linear patterns, Zack made the tune his own.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:55 Listening To The Drumless Song
3:10 First Take
8:41 Listening To The Original Song
10:00 Song Analysis
10:58 Outro
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I'd love to see someone's take on Sleep Token's song 'Hypnosis' - the orchestration in the original is amazing!
Probably the minority here.... I'd much rather hear the entire drumless listen through with the drummer, especially if I don't know the song myself. It adds a little 1st person perspective if you don't know the song. You get to experience the creativity with the video, instead of just watching some drummer beast it out
I hope you guys make someone do some saosin song, alex on drums is quite creative with his speed and fills. Be nice to see another seasoned drummer give it a go or their interpretation
can you have someone play "Released From the Catacombs" by Skeletonwitch
Why is Nicolas Cage sitting in the booth?
I like that he used ghost notes instead of double bass to match the guitar riff. Nice job
I can't help myself but his interpretation gives me strong porcupine tree vibes. Indeed a great job!
I think I prefer that
jazz drummers be like fr
Exactly what I think. I hate those trash sounding double base staccato beats in Djent... Playing ghostnotes and lots of stuff on the cymbals makes it sound soo much cooler
Didn't he tried learning metal drums? Ah maybe he was like "dis shit trash, imma just forget it all"
I swear, I would LOVE to see one of these videos where the actual drummer shows up to listen without the substitute drummer knowing. These drummers are all fantastic! ❤
Agreed. If they have the artist come in to play the original and give props this format of video would be even better, and it already crushes.
My god YES!!
Completely agree!!!
or even a series where the original drummers react to the cover and analyze
No
Jazz Drummers incorporate some of the sickest grooves into a metal track. It’s like a flavor you never know you needed until you hear it. Absolutely incredible work!
Jazz lends itself perfectly for this. Lots of different techniques, lots of on the spot interpretation
Yeah boi, Brann Dailor opened my whole mind
I agreeeee
The billy rymer dude is one of those weird hybrids I swear. Why him in dillinger produced some of my favorites an he's just stupid ridiculous drummer period.
Definitely reminds me of zach hill on hella
They gave him a REALLY difficult song and he absolutely killed it
I'm going to be the 400th to agree with you. This song is really hard, especially if you're not into this kind of music or familiar with it.
I've never heard this song and I'm not sure I want to hear the original.
@@sethglenn9022 if this is too heavy for you check out some of their newer stuff
@@sethglenn9022you should listen to the original. It’s pretty great. He did a superb job with this song too!
@@sethglenn9022 why not? this is rather inoffensive, almost radio friendly. If you really want to get hurt go listen to Lorna Shore or Darko lmao
Most of the best metal drummers have jazz chops. His interpretation turned a straight metal groove into a progressive feel that really suited the track. Brilliant.
Yeah! I really loved the Ghost noting on the snare he put in there instinctually.
A lot of really good metal drummers add them in there, most notably Halpern from Periphery does it with EVERYTHING
Late 80's and early 90's metal had fast powerfull drum sound. And then Vinnie Paul came with groove
Mario duplantier.
alex camarena from silent planet is one of them i believe. i love the little, playful notes that drummers like them add
Gave me Baard Kolstad vibes
“Man, don’t ever make me do that again, bro!”
I would make him do this 1000x over. This is so damn good.
Gay
@@bradcallahan3546 Cringe
@@bradcallahan3546 we know you are
dude killed it damn
He turned it from a quick paced song, to a technical math-core type song. I loved it. Gave an Animals as Leaders feel.
Definitely had some Garska vibes
And Tesseract too
Please DO NOT stop making these videos. Especially with modern metal songs that we all love. It’s so crazy to see these phenomenal drummers try and get the drums down without knowing the drums to the song.
I almost prefer when they bring a completely different flavor to the song. It's actually kind of amazing how much just the drums can affect the dynamics and the feel of the song.
@@benjaminstewart4051 YES Same here! I LOVE seeing the brand new perspective professional drummers bring when playing something out of their comfort zone!! It brings a whole different feel to the song and makes me enjoy the song even more :)
would love to see someone do something like, twelve foot ninja - coming for you.
This crap is hardly metal.
Would love to see someone do a first take on something from Swedish metalcore band, Imminence.
Drumeo really are just out here making some of the best content around
Someone has to
This series is s tier musical content
Please. Never stop.❤
It's true.
Man this was so sick. The stuff he did at 3:50 and 5:50 blew my mind. More ZackGrooves please
He could 100% play a polyphia song with that high hat work
He totally killed It! It's awesome what he can finds for play this Song,whithout a china and every part totally fit in
Yea man. Turned it into a Tesseract Song at those points. This guy's drumming is great!
literally lol’d when he hit the one at 6:21. KILLER!
100% agreed. He nailed those calm and painful fragments of song with his style
Would be good to see a tiny snippet first of what he normally does to see how far away this style is and emphasise how amazing this is
THIS!
He's a jazz drummer.
11:20
Google's your friend
Hearing he's a jazzdrummer is not the same as seeing a quick snippet. Sure we can google it, but it's a good suggestion for these videos. Just like having the original drummers react, btw
Dudes chops were almost made for post-hardcore. For a style he doesn't play, he literally owns the pocket. Reminds me a lot of the drumming on the self-titled Saosin album.
seriously i thought it was gonna turn into a seven years styled cover
@@f67739 for sure.
Amazing comment. Exactly right, that's why saosin EP is unrivaled gem standing aside rest of post-hardcore catalogue.
@@ladoga1506 that is 100% a fact. I'm in my mid-30s now, and that record holds up to literally anything you put it up against. Start to finish the whole thing is just mint. Truly a pillar in the post-hardcore canon.
@@thundabearz5092 its great, kinda weird for posthardcore though, and for drums I think that hail the sun, chiodos, and sianvar also have incredible drums.
You can never unhear Zack's version again. He changed it completely. 🔥
Seriously 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah actually prefer his interpretation
@@csvscs i know, right?
His version is 100x better! To be honest I’m not a fan of this band at all but he made it interesting.
@@f3rny_66 No, it's not. Not this album.
3:58 this could never be overused imo. I fuckin love that sound
I legit knew what you were referring to before I clicked to confirm, but still clicked, then said, YUP.
Yeah it sound amazing.
Sooooooo Freakin' TASTY!
Love it knew as well lol
3:18 that's the best "Woo!" I've ever heard from anybody
Better than the "stylin', profilin', limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' son of a gun" wooo?
@@Peter_Joshua yes.
Rick Flair disagrees with you
Loved Zack's version man, even without using a double pedal he figured out how to fill the gap with his own playing style
I think that was the best part, the stuff he did instead of double kick made it much more interesting imo
I need to see Zack in a metal band, that would be killer
No he wouldnt. Not without a double bass sorry.
He did play a halloween show so if you look it up he has played metal.
@@suqqmadiq2604:
Even if he would incorporate a double pedal, his style is *intricate* - metal would just be *easy peasy* for him 💯%... ✅️☝🏽👌🏽👍🏽
Deftones usually does *single pedal* - but yet they still sound pretty *heavy* . . . 🤦🏻 🤷🏻♂️ ☝🏽
@@suqqmadiq2604 u dont need a double pedal for metal lol
@@suqqmadiq2604 Zack has done Deathcore and Metalcore before. He can use a double pedal (with a little brushing up)
My dude kicked fucking ASS on this.... I was thoroughly impressed. Badass drumming and great ideas, and not only did he do a good job? HE WAS SMILING THE WHOLE TIME AND THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS IS ABOUT.
I love how he opens the song up. His playing is so musical.
I can't agree enough. It's such phenomenal playing.
I missed the part where this was supposed to be embarrassing for him? Dude freaking killed it!
That part is that they picked such a shit band for him.
he loses his spot around 6:25, takes a second to find where he's supposed to be, calculates the beats he's missed, grooves half time until he's back on the next riff, and fucking nails it. absolutely amazing skill.
This is a pretty common thing to do when you first hear a song and you're first writing it (essentially improvising if not on paper). I've done it hundreds of times over my life. It's definitely a drum thing hahahaha
@@fmlAllthetime Why you trying to humble brag? He didn't say it was uncommon, he said it was an amazing skill. Get over yourself.
@@piposanchez It's not a humble brag, it's a pretty common trait among drummers. It's about as amazing as playing the drums competently on the scale of drumming goes tbh. Different scale than a guitarist or someone who doesn't play, but as a drummer, reading his comment made me chuckle a little bit and I thought I'd share a bit of insight into drumming. I don't understand why you're so pressed about that?
@@fmlAllthetime grow up
@@failtolawl And how would you suggest I do that? I would like a critique of the two internet comments you're judging my personality from. Also would like the critique that shows where my behavior was aggressive or mean and dismissive.
He's freestyling like a maniac, it is actually really impressive. The original has such a specific rhythm, with a bunch of changes that really emphasize the flow of the song. At the second part before the bridge it was spot on (different, but excellent). I can't believe how well he managed himself through the song.
The remarks at the end were really on point: Loud, impressive and consistant.
Thanks for giving us this excellent version and taking the effort to make it uniquely yours!
The drum part in Doomsday has kinda always sounded to me like the rhythms of different kinds of guns (which I haven't researched if that was on purpose but it'd make sense for Doomsday) because they're different at parts of the song but so specific and exact/precise.
I love his take as well. Never heard "guns" but he was just going at it and all the solos he did were really amazing.
Impressive how Zack "understands" the music instantly and comes up with some crazy shit that realy fits well. Love it.
I would be happy if every video they released was a "drummer hears x for first time". They are incredible to watch
Same 😢
would love to see Dave Grohl or Matt McGuire
Forreal, these are entertaining af to watch. I’ve watched many of these multiple times
Brandon did me dirty on this one 🥲😂 love y’all
You killed it!
Do it again!
You did beautifully!!
Absolutely stellar. Legitimately bad ass.
Legit you took the song to new heights
Kid is a monster. In an hour he'd probably have something totally unique and still as good as what's on the record.
*better than what's on the record (no shade at the original drummer btw, I'm sure he can play this stuff, maybe Architects as a band can take the hint and encourage better drum parts?)
@@clarenceoveur9497 I honestly agree. The djenty era of Architects wasn't really super intense drum-wise. Dan is a great dummer, but I prefer the version Zach made by far
@@clarenceoveur9497 listen to their newer stuff
Was not expecting to see the League of Legends Rap God in the comments here
@@clarenceoveur9497 the drums are not really the focus of the song in my opinion, I like what Zack played here and it's for sure better if it was the focus of the song. but in my opinion the drums holding back make's the guitars, bass and especially the vocals more intense.
I don't think the song would have hit as hard as it does in the original with these drums. but in this context where the drums are in the foreground, yeah for sure Zack killed it!
That hi-hat and snare part from 3:50 to 4:04, unreal.
This is amazing! Those ghost notes on the snare are perfectly filling the void of where that second kick is supposed to be.
Zach is the best jazz drummer trying to imitate a metal drummer.
He would honestly kill it in an AAL type prog band or something
Brann Dailor
Marco Minneman?
The real answer is Louis Cole.
@@drummerdan95 Probaly fits more in Periphery considering Matt is also a groove guy.
WOW HE FRICKIN KILLED THAT!!! I am so impressed how he transitions from Jazz to Rock so flawlessly
has to be one of the best out of genre takes on the channel. very well done.
yes he very cool
I can’t tell you how much the original song means to me. Architects released it the day after we held my best friend from the service’s funeral. His take turns it more groove heavy, which fits in with the type of music my buddy enjoyed. I love this so much. RIP Everette.
This album was on repeat when my cousin passed in a tragic way. I know exactly how you feel. I hope you have found some sort of peace since then.
I feel that.
R.I.P
The good die young
Kinda same here, lost a friend ho introduced me to Architects some months before they released this
RIP
Everette
RIP Everette, sounds like he had a killer taste in music.
Have they done the opposite for this series? Like crazy metal drummers play groovy jazz? I'm sure they'd be able to crush it, I just want to see it for the funny aesthetics lol
It would just be double bass and blast beats thru out
@@xRamZx And that would be incredible lol
I think they did a rock guy play a chiller song
They wouldn’t crush it. Metal drummers think dynamics are playing louder.
@@RD-jr8nv It would depend on the metal drummer. Some metal drummers have background in jazz, but then I guess that wouldn’t be fair
The way he created a similar groove with the toms that the original had in double bass was outstanding. I love both versions.
Holy shit, it’s an entirely new song, with an entirely different vibe, and new levels of emotion. I really loved this interpretation of the song.
5:50 holy crap did this part sound insane, worked so well with this part of the song
better than the original honestly lol
Yeah he's so comfortable right there
It almost started turning into TesseracT there, was so cool how progressive and moody it became
YES 😍😍😍😍😍
@@kanjokiroo Dude YES! We need @Drumeo needs to get this dude on a Tesseract track...
Beneath My Skin/Mirror Image feel
These drumeo videos single handedly showing that you don't always have to double the guitar part with the kick drum in metal music
YES THIS! This is the most important lesson from this series.
Yes! And you don't have to produce it to sound like plastic, it's okay to have some tone in the kick.
I've got mixed opinions on this: To be clear, Love Zack, love this take - but we have to consider the practicality of ghosting all over the place live at a Metal concert. Would it cut through? Maybe. Maybe not.
To agree with the point - doubling the guitar with the kicks has become a bit of an overused trope in metal. That said, One and Bleed are hills I will quite happily die on.
To end - not hating Zack or this version - just saying that all that nuance and subtlety may not translate to a live performance.
You don't always have to but if you do and no one complain why stop doing it 🤷, and like what demonlord said it's probably not the most practical thing to do
Main reason for this is Pantera doing it in the 90's and it changed how metal was produced for better or worse
Him saying “his playing is very inspiring” is so fitting to say about architects. Cause so many people start bands after seeing them live
Really dig how the snare’s overtone worked in the verses! Such a great coincidence that Zack picked up on when he heard the space available and knocked off the dampener at 3:51
I didn’t notice that at first, but you’re totally right.
I think he heard the first hit and think "where the heck are my overtones?" hahah
yes yes yes yes
It’s like if periphery wrote doomsday. Awesome interpretation!
YES I WAS JUST THINKING THAT
LMAO spot on with the description 🤣
YES TOTALLY !! These are some straight up halpern chops right here
Dang man, I was hearing the same thing, and don't even know that much Periphery.
@@Metalcorableyou’re telling me. I can literally see Halpern do his signature syncopating head shake while doing some of those runs.
Can we talk about how Zack's snare drum is tuned to the exact same pitch as the original 🤯
THAT INTRO SET THE TONE FOR THE AMAZING AWESOMENESS MY BRAIN WASN’T READY FOR 😂. Great job Zack
I felt the "WHHOOO!" lol.
dudes a prog metal drummer and doesn’t even know it
im pretty sure he knows
Zack is such a great drummer
Im incredibly impressed how close this sounds to something matt halpern whould do
True. Especially the ghost notes.
Matt really is a jazz drummer in disguise
Scrolled down to find this exact comment, as soon as I heard this I thought Matt immediately! 😂
Because his chops comes from actual real organic dynamic music and legendary drummers? The best metal drummers can obviously play your double bass driven metal but their core come from something entirely different. Eloy Casagrande grew up as a bossa nova and samba drummer, for example ;)
THAT'S what that familiar feeling was!
Jazz drum influence in metal is a tale as old as time. It just fits so perfectly. This is incredible
WHOOOOOO!!!! KILLED THIS. Genuinely nasty. Zack's groove brought a whole new life to this track; I want to buy HIS version.
5:52 - 7:16 absolutely blew me away. Had to listen to that a couple of times over.
Same here, so damn good.
Melted my face when the music cuts out and its just snare. So sick!
Got mad goosebumps at that part
YES!
Definitely one of those occasions where I found his drum part way more interesting and original than the actual song.
I’d happily have this guy drum like this to a metal band all day.
Don’t need loads of double kick when you’ve got groove like him.
Banging.
Word!
It reminds me of early 2000's style Post-Hardcore music... Less double bass and more rhythm. It fit so well with the song I think I like this version better than the original.
Metal without double kick is just rock…
@@DirtyWellington
Because metal sucks lol.
Go listen to Silent Planet's early albums and you'll enjoy.
Their newer stuff is taking a heavier direction but their early years are elite 👌🤌
The way that Brandon fixes the Cymbal at 3:33 was so smooth.
Okay that first take was insane!!!
Best first take ever, unbelievable job Zack!
4:45 That kick/snare/floor combo was so sick
lol i paused the video to scroll down to make sure someone had already acknowledged this!
seriously
Bonham triplets. I caught that as well. Sick!
Then to follow it up with the linear fill at 4:43 is unreal
Killed it!! You know what would be cool? If you got the original band/drummer reacting to peoples first time playing these songs. Be cool to get their thoughts! 🤘🏼
I know he isn't exactly the "interview" or "filming" type, but I'd love to see II reacting to people, like Greyson Nekrutman, playing Sleep Token songs. II is one of my inspirations for drumming, and I loved his hour long interview/playing video here on Drumeo. Would LOVE to see some of these superstar drummers reacting to other drummers playing their parts on songs.
Zack's playing is such a tasteful mix of flashy and refined
4 minutes of proving that Zack is one of the best young drummers right now
I actually prefer his version of the quiet part at 3:50, that hat work is immaculate.
Came to say this. Not gonna say it anymore since you did first
Yes, he did great
I Agree
I actually prefer his version overall... I'm kinda over double bass playing the exact riff pattern every song. His groove let it breathe more.
It is fun to hear a different take, but I like the consistancy and tightness of the original. I would say the most important part of this song is actually the drums.
This was the best one by far.
The technique on this was insane
Natural talent. Truly. You can tell he is in his natural element!
Anyone else love the stank faces every single drummer makes when hearing the original? It's like that recognition and respect all tied into one facial expression. Love this channel!
I love this song so much. In case you didn't know, the song is about a member of the band that passed away young due to cancer. I've also lost a couple friends way too young to cancer so I can barely listen to this song without crying. But it was a pleasure watching you improv drums for the track. Thanks for the great content Zack.
so is Memento Mori and imo that's their best song
Doomsday was the last song he worked on before he passed…
The fact that the drummer was the brother to the guitarist who passed gives it so much more emotion. They did a service to this song🫡🥹
The same guy that wrote the track Early Grave, coincidentally
It's crazy how it literally changes the entire sound of the song, Literally the best drum content on RUclips
I would like to hear what Zack's version sounds like with an actual bass player on the recording. The drum beat in the original song sounds like the bass player went missing and the guitarist programmed the drums to fill the void, yet by doing that he lost the guitar riff in the mix. His interpretation actually highlights the guitar riff better and leaves space for a bass player if they had one.
Love how this just became a Periphery song with Zack's drumming. Beast
i always love hearing Zack play with his style over heavier music. it’s so unique. i would love to hear him in a rock or metal band
He played in a band called SLOP back in his hometown, I've got some demos and footy lying around, gonna have to find them tho
The fact that he thinks it was bad is mind blowing haha, he’s so good!
That MJ scream at the beginning was fitting and the addtion of the mute stack in it's usage was sick.
This mfer is unreal. There is so many different grooves by the end of the song... what a machine
"You can clearly tell I had no idea what I'm doing."
My dude, that groove blew away the original. That made the song so much more interesting. It was amazing.
Ahhh, yeah.. idk about that..
It really did
@@Daniel-vu4qu Don't get me wrong, I like double kicks as much as the next metalhead. But this guy showed how much potential the song had for a more interesting groove than what the original gave us.
@@thefallenmysthe had more groove to it, but if you actually understood the meaning behind this song, you’d understand why it was written to sound like this. Dans twin brother, Tom, the guitarist, was dying of cancer. It’s not suppose to be a groovy upbeat song.
@@Ep0nzGotcha. This was my first time hearing the song at all, so knew nothing about it.
This one is my favorite so far. Those ghost notes!!! And the hi hats in the first verse. Good stuff right there.
This is hands down my favourite from this series. Amazing.
Them ghost notes... Damn 🤩
Live earing interpretation of songs I know. It's almost like earing it again for the 1st time ^^
3:48 absolutely gave me goosebumps, that is so goddamn tight! I've listened to this song probably a few hundred times and this new twist fits perfectly.
I love how Zacks brain works. He’s such a talented drummer. Btw I’m a HUGE Architects fan and I think he had a great interpretation.
That was the most perfectly imperfect Drumeo take I've ever heard. Well fuggin done dude.
3:47 this part is so fucking insane dude. great work!
3:50
dude wtf this is so sick and fits in way better than the original 'nothing'
His choice in drum tones is unreal. Dude has an amazing ear.
This is my favorite series y’all do. Drummer plays a song they have never heard from a band they are not familiar with. Keep the content.
I actually like what he did at 4:19 before the first chorus, instead of the silence, he does the crash, HHx3, Stackx4. You still get the quiet with the stack, but it adds some anticipation.
yeah I noticed that. I was like... oooh that caught me off guard. obviously it was an accident in timing as he thought the chorus would come straight in but it actually worked going back to the stack. like you said, the tension/anticipation
I much prefer this to the constant double pedal tbh 🔥
I absolutely love these videos. Such an amazing way to take a different look at how songs can be the same and so different with the different interpretations of the groove. I love both versions!
This channel has given me a new love and respect for these heavier genres that I’ve never been a huge fan of. But watching these guys listen to a drum dry track. Makes me close my eyes and imagine how I would have played it. Only played for about 4 years before I was paralyzed and wasn’t ANYWHERE close to the best. But listening to these people. Has given me so many more songs to put on my playlist. Absolutely love that I found Drumeo and even though I can’t play anymore it’s made me fall back in love with the drums! These blind play throughs are soo incredible!!
Are you quadriplegic or paraplegic? If you still have use of 2 of your limbs, I bet you could still make it work with the help of some creative equipment and a lotta heart (kinda like how Def Leppard‘s drummer didn’t give up after he lost an arm).
Who ever came up with the idea for the this series is seriiusly a genius.
those fills was everything, damn he's a beast
This was so wild man. Great job. The enjoyment Zack had playing it was fantastic too. Killed it man.
While the architects drummer is amazing, I love Zach’s take on this song. I would genuinely love to hear his version recorded in an alternate take of the song. Dudes pocket is so good
Zack is just straight vibes. The best friend I wish I had. His drumming is so smooth and loose. I love it.
I LOVED Zack's version! He interpreted it in ways that no one else can! I like this just as much as the original!!!
Brilliant getting a groover for this song, it's inspiring how jazz grooves are present in metalcore sometimes
I keep hearing "It's a brand new Tuesday". A very positive song to start Tuesday morning.
As a person who has never heard this song either, Zack did pretty awesome! Loved his grooves
Yo can I just say, as someone who loves metal but hasn’t heard this song.. HE KILLED IT.
Super impressive for a non-metal drummer/fan who's barely listened to the song! Still sounded great in its own way! Great song choice!!!
Wow. What he played was SICK!!! The syncopation & bass drum work is really awesome...
Zack blasting as always, changed the whole song and it still sound fucking amazing
He counted the drop into the second verse perfectly off one listen, between that and the shuffle added to the verses I am in awe
This dude killed it. I love watching these vids, love the different interpretations everyone brings to the songs.
That "WOOO" at the beginning drop in was so pure!