I’ve had the older version of this since 2019. You didn’t mention what looks to me like the biggest improvement - the two additional uprights right behind the shroud that are supporting the machine on the front side of the weight stack. The old version amazingly had no support on the front of the stack, other than the shroud itself which is quite flimsy in comparison. As you might imagine the machine as a whole was much less stable and swayed a lot in use. So much so that after I set it up and used it once I immediately figured out a way to make a bracket and bolt it to my basement wall. It’s been rock solid since then but I always mention this whenever anyone asks me about the tower. Glad to see they finally came to their senses and fixed this design flaw. This new version looks just as stable as mine but without needing the wall mount.
Also mine is 82” so sounds like this is a couple inches higher which is also good. I have a few attachments where I need to lean back slightly to avoid bottoming out the stack.
Hey, Tim! Good to hear you were able to modify the old design. I tried to touch on the redesign by saying each piece interlocks with the next for added stability, but I definitely should have gone into more detail about the posts behind the shroud.
Thanks so much. This is a competitive category, but I think Powertec holds their own…especially with the updated features. Hopefully, this review helps to spread the word. Also, after I review a piece of equipment, I continue to show it in action over the course of months and, for some equipment, even years; so everyone can see how well it holds up. Thanks again. I appreciate you finding my channel.
Nice! I am very excited to see where Powertec is heading. They were pretty stagnant for a while, but it seems that they are more active as of late. On a side note, I like that gold anodized pin’s look 1000x as much as their traditional tonka truck yellow. Great review HGHR!
Thank you, BGB! I agree. There is so much competition now, all these companies will need to continue to innovate. The Gold Pin is awesome. I noticed I called it an adjustment knob during the edit, but I couldn’t justify a reshoot. Thanks again, BGB!
Another comprehensive and informative review! Powertec makes great equipment and It's nice to see you demo some of the exercises you enjoy performing on your new smooth lat machine. You truly are the "HACK" master! 👍You look good at your new body weight. "Health" & fitness, in that order is key for longevity and vitality.
Thank you for the great review and the assembly instructions at the end. I just ordered through your affiliate link because of the review and the bit at the end will help when I assemble it soon.
@@justinbenolkin4224 thank you so much! That is so sincerely appreciated. Once you get the machine, please let me know what you think and / or if you have any questions. Thanks again!
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Just arrived two days ago. So far it is a great piece of equipment. Assembly was a little tedious. Lots of getting down and tightening bolts in hard to reach places. The one question I have for you is how much "play" is there on your top plate and the guide rods? The 10lb weight with the weight horns seems to have a lot of room round the guide rods. So when lifting only the weight horns it rattles more than I am used to. My inspire functional trainer seems to have less "play" around the guide rods when lifting only the top plate there.
@ I don’t think I’ve used the machine with 10 pounds so I just went out in the garage and tested it. There is a decent amount of space between the guide rods and bushings and I’m wondering if some of the play with the carriage is due to the weight horns and the additional width they provide.
@ thanks for checking on that. Yeah I figured it was just what you mentioned. I wanted to make sure I installed everything correctly so if you see the same thing then it should be all good.
@ absolutely. I checked all my other cable machines too; it’s very similar on the Powertec Streamline Functional Trainer and even my Cybex Adduction / Abduction Machine.
Thank you for this review. It helped me make a decision to purchase one. I can’t wait to get busy with this piece of equipment and I look forward to more videos.
You said you’d pick the multipress and this machine over the levergym. What else would you add to this for a powertec only gym? Love the content and the realistic home gym approach
Thanks so much! The Compact Leg Sled for lower body. I really like the Powertec Leg Press, in fact, I think it’s the best home gym leg press on the market (I’ve had 2 of them), but I find the Compact Leg Sled more lower back friendly.
Against my better judgement, after watching this video, I ordered one. I currently have one of the older roller smiths with the lat attachment. As I'm getting older, I use the smith less and less. Figure I can sell that combo for at least what I paid for this. Also ordered the new version of the leg sled to replace my original version. It still works great, but I like the updates they've made enough to upgrade it. Thanks for the great videos!
@@HomeGymHacksandReviewsBoth are in and built. The LAT machine came with some damage to the lat bar holder hooks, but I bent it back in place and used the included touch up paint. No issues at all with the leg sled. I do have to ask, since you also have the weight stack - how do you get the pin to stay at the right height and facing the right direction when switching weights? I pull the pin in and seems to move out of place each time.
@@tribaltek I want to make sure I understand correctly: the selectorized pin for the Pulldown plate stack? It is magnetized, so it should stay in place. The spike that runs through the stack can be adjusted…loosen the nut and either tighten the spike or loosen the spike, then tighten the nut back to adjust the spike / cable.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I was referring to the spike that runs through the plate stack. I've adjusted quite a bit already with no real luck. Maybe the cable has to "settle" for a while before it figures out its preferred orientation? I'll try adjusting again later this week.
@@tribaltek it should be automatic…no settling needed. Also try putting the pin through one of the plates and into the spike and make the adjustment from there. Before I tightened everything into place, I made sure the pin went into every plate. If that doesn’t fix it, you may need to double check cable installation.
How does the low pull feel? Quite a few machines out there have reviews that the low pull is too low. I’m hoping that isn’t the case for this machine because I really like the 1:1 ratio, and the plate loaded AND weight stack option.
I like the low pulley placement. On machines where the low pulley is higher, for whatever reason, it aggravates my back. With that being said, I mainly perform chest supported rows and those work great on this machine.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviewsoh, I will. Already have the powertec multipress with leg and curl attachments and I love it. Powertec don't save on protection and everything came out of the box without a single scratch, and for me it was a sign, straight out of the box, how much they care about their customers. And obviously the multipress is amazing. Really love powertec products, too bad they don't have a cable machine with a smith like other brands.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I just uploaded a video of my DIY high and low cable fly on my low cost rack, if you want to check it out and tell me what you think, I would greatly appreciate 😁
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thanks so much! Just got the Compact Leg Sled put together … and the Lat Machine is on the way. Thanks for the in-depth videos!!
The built in weight horns for the selectorized version is very nice. I also like the idea of the seat that swivels away. Is this machine less deep than the Titan or Bells? It looks like it, but it’s hard to tell for sure.
Agreed; great features. According to their respective websites, the Powertec is 3” longer than the Titan and 10” shorter than the Bells. I think the Bells and Titan look nearly identical so I find it hard to believe the Titan is more than a foot shorter.
I’ve been kinda sidetracked, so I haven’t assembled it yet. I’m also waiting on delivery of the Freak Athlete Nordic Hyper. It looks really interesting & versatile.
Just bought the lat tower and rack combo based on your reviews, and all your help answering questions during my research period . Have a question 1: the rod that is in the middle doesn’t point straight up and down but is kinda touching plates before going down 2: the connecting wire that you screw into the top plate - how far to screw it in I tried going all the way but before I did it started clicking and the top plate raised so I unscrewed it a bit just so the top plate rest naturally on the stack I would have used a promo code to help you out, but I live in Hungary May talk about it on my channel, if so I’ll give you a shout out and tag Powertec to let them know. …the instructions (horrible)😞 Thanks
@@pathtooptimalhealth thanks so much. It sounds like the top bolt needs to be adjusted a little if the post is hitting the plates. I just turn it until I feel like enough of the bolt is threaded into the carriage. If the rubber stopper balls are too snug against the pulley wheels, I loosen the bolt and if the cable is too loose, I tighten it a bit.
Great review. I was looking at this recently. I really like the option of the lat pulldown with the half rack for the efficient use of space, but that lat pulldown lacks some of the features of the separate option for not much less $.
Thank you, Brian. The Pulldown and Half Rack is a great combo. It really adds a lot of stability to the rack too. I would like to see longer spotter arms, but I understand the reasoning for the length. With the stand-alone I also appreciate how close I can get it to wall and how tight of a space I can fit it in by having the selectorized stack. This took the place of the Nautilus Torso Arm (I gave it to my dad) and I like this much, much better.
Thank you for another great review video! This time I found your affiliate link and placed my order for this lat machine a few minutes ago. Regarding the weight stack option (which I did order also), with my 9-foot ceiling, should I go the route of installing the guide rods first and then dropping each weight plate into place? Not sure 9 feet would be enough to stack the plates first before installing the guide rods. Thanks
@@funshop1 thank you. I really appreciate that. Just to be on the safe side, I would drop each plate down the guide rods rather than trying to slide the guide rods down the stacked plates. Please reach out if you have any questions during assembly.
How does this compare to the Ironmaster portable cable tower - or the IM2000 machine with its built in cable pulley system? Is it a better quality system with smoother motion and more flexibly for additional exercises? Appreciate you candid feedback between this pulldown machine and Ironmaster’s cable options.
I’m not sure it’s entirely fair to compare this against either of those options because one is an attachment and one is a high / low pulley connected to a Smith Machine. Luckily, all 3 are smooth, but the Powertec is much more convenient, smaller footprint, and the features are more high-end. My favorite of the 3 is the Powertec.
That’s fair, appreciate your candid feedback. I was considering the IM2000 and really like this powertec lat pulldown. Perhaps the right long-term answer is to get both! :). Thanks again!
Hi, Thanks for the review. Did you ever use or did a review for the Powertec Lat attachment for their bench? I was not able to find the video if you did. Thanks
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews had my first session using the new PT tower, very impressed with it, feel rock solid in use, no wobble etc, glad I went for the weight stack add-on, also picked up a PT leg sled 2019 version from marketplace for 450 in as new conditions.
@@williamaustin6132 thanks so much for the update and I’m glad you’re happy with it. It’s a great machine and I agree, the weight stack add on is worth the extra money.
Great video as always! I had to remove the Powertec faceplate on the functional trainer because it’s too narrow to fit my hand to grab the selector pin. I also didn’t like that it’s pushed out far so it’s difficult changing weight when you’re changing at an angle quickly. Since downsizing, are you going to put the funds towards a mini split or other heating? Winter is coming.
I know what you’re saying, about the Functional Trainer, especially closer to the top of the stack. I’m glad to see Powertec made this improvement with this model. I have someone coming out to give me a quote for a split system…it’s unfortunately taking longer than expected for our schedules to match up.
Sound is smooth…no clanking like the rogue lat stack. * How is the previous version with clanging noises and operation (Looking at getting the power rack with lat attached) thanks, brother 😊
Thanks so much. I’m not sure about the previous version of this Lat Machine, but over the last 15 years, I had 4 of the Powertec Lat Towers that connect to the Power Rack. I liked it enough to buy it 4 times 😀(whenever I move, I sell my equipment to make the move easier and then upgrade to the newest model). I have an older review for the Lat Tower I had connected to the Powertec Smith Machine. I can’t remember if I use the lat machine in real time in that review, but if I don’t, I have my HIT training series videos where I use it and you will hear how it sounds.
@@pathtooptimalhealth absolutely. Similar but not the same. If I remember correctly, the rack-connected lat tower is slightly shorter. When the Lat Tower is attached to a Power Rack, 1/2 Rack, or Smith, it is incredibly solid.
Great video! I’ve just set mine up (with the 190lb stack) and the selector rod doesn’t sit flush on the top on the stack. It’s almost like the upper cable isn’t long enough.. don’t suppose you have any ideas where to look? Thanks!
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews appreciate the quick response! Is there somewhere I can send a picture to so you can see what’s happening? Also, which bolt specifically do you think I need to loosen? Thanks very much!
@@robertkarran8571 glad to help. There is a bolt that goes through the carriage, I believe a pulley is attached to the bolt. Then there is a nut that you can loosen or tighten to further secure the bolt that runs through the carriage. It sounds like that is the area you need to adjust.
Ah yeah, so that bolt doesn’t full stretch to be able to fit into the weight stack. And if I do fit it into the weight stack, the weight horn sits one selector higher than the stack, meaning I cant choose the 200lb plate at the bottom. Do you have an email I could send pictures too? Thanks
Great review. Minor nitpick; Powertec could have included a revolving lat bar. I think manufacturers will make high pulleys slightly taller in future, because people are using attachments like Gympin bars.
I was stuck between this and the lat tower option several weeks ago. I just got the PowerTech half rack and have limited space so I went with the lat tower option. I wpuld have chosen this one if I had more space. Haha! I'm guessing you watch the Golden Bachelor too? Same here
Luckily, you can’t go wrong with the Lat Tower Option. Of the 4 I had over the last 15 years, 2 were on Power Racks and 2 were on Roller Smiths. They got used all the time and they never let me down. lol! I might be in the room while my wife is watching it 🤓
Hey man would you be able to measure the height of the low cable (where the ball and eyelet rest on the machine) and the width of the low row foot posts for me? 🙏
Nice review. I’m strongly considering this pulldown but I have seen other Powertec videos with the lat pulldown that wobble/shake with the top arm sloped downward. Has the new version resolved this issue? Also, did you bolt yours down or free standing? TIA
@@JP-vq7wg thank you. This is the newest model which addressed the issue you’re talking about. Now, there are two additional beams behind the shroud for increased stability. I did not bolt mine down, but I do have the selectorized stack which increases the machine’s stability.
@ I couldn’t be happier with this machine; the only exercise I noticed I can’t do is a standing face pull with my foot braced against the seat because the cable will rub (but that’s not really an exercise I do anyway). And, as I mentioned in this video, I can’t use attachments that hang low, but I use the bar that comes with the machine most of the time.
Nice review, thank you. Have you already tried to do belt squats on the low pulley. I am on the fence to get the lat machine in addition to my Levergym because I don't like the resistance curve for pulldowns on the levergym. However, if I could perform belt squats on the lat machine it would make the choice so much easier.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thank you. I am currently using a loading pin and reebok steps. The lat machine is on backorder in Europe so I’ll order one once it‘s available again.
@@Rodgauer-ho5ko I’m presently using a loading pin for belt squats too; I really like the exercise (I made a recent video of my present DIY Belt Squat). I hope you like the Lat Machine as much as I do. It’s one of my favorite Powertec pieces.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I know. You are the reason why I got a levergym in the first place a couple of months again. I‘ve also seen your video on the belt squat but couldn‘t get my hands on these plyoboxes. The steps work well too.
@@Rodgauer-ho5ko good to hear your steps are working well for the belt squat set up. Thanks so much. As for the Levergym’s cable resistance profile, I have to admit I like it…the resistance drops off just ever so slightly at full contraction. With that said, I still like the Lat Machine better for cable work.
This machine looks badass and the price is amazing. I'm thinking about this or the titan pull down machine. My moneys on powertec rn seems like a much better engineered machine. Especially how the seat moves!
I’ve been very happy with it so far. I’ve only found the cable to rub when doing standing face pulls, but that can be fixed simply by kneeling down. Like you said, the seat swiveling out of the way gives the cable a vertical line of drive for Tricep Push Downs and Curls…which makes this machine pretty unique.
Just assembled my machine but had a question. Where does the key ring on the weight stack selector pin get attached to? Right now i just have it hanging off the weight stack as i use the machine. Thanks
What is the length from the back of the machine to the very front of the contour tubing where the low row feet attach? Trying to figure out the minimum length of the machine with the seat swiveled to the side. The Diamond metal floor plate really add to the length as it is flat.
I'm looking forward to you rebuilding your gym. Hoping you get more Fettle Fitness gear to see if they actually hold high value along a long line of gear.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I unfortunately need to get knee surgery and need to plan my long-term rehab and post rehab strength protocol. Plus old age. So I'm thinking of going to a leverage leg press machine for rehab and long-term safety use. Fettle Fitness seems a good possible solution for that. I have a space issue as well.
@@richardschank5568 I wish you well. My wife recently had two back-to-back surgeries in less than a year for her hip and later her knee…so I know the work you’ll be putting in to get back in action.
I searched lat pulls for fucking ages before finally buying the bells of steel like a few days ago. Now im suddenly seeing all these other options i never noticed before like this powertec
Is this the new P-LM23 model? My local dealer is telling me that they are only receiving the P-LM20 model from Powertec and the 23 hasn't been released yet. Even the Powertec website is saying the latest/current model is the P-LM20 model with the die cut logo and angled stainless weight horns. Do you have any info on this? My biggest concern is receiving an older unit that doesn't have the new vertical bracing posts for the upper arm. Any info would be greatly appreciated before I order. Thanks for all the great content, man!!!
Thanks so much. This is LM23 and it’s the one Powertec is presently selling on their website. The pictures on Powertec’s webpage show the new adjustment knobs and just under the slideshow it shows, P-LM23. It has the 2 additional posts behind the shroud for increased stability.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thank you so much for the quick reply! I'm minutes away from ordering this. Lol... I guess the confusion is the Powertec website is calling it P-LM23 in one spot and then the (P-LM20) down in the description adding confusion.
Not that I know of. Are you hoping for a prone leg curl or seated leg curl machine? I’m very happy with the attachment…in fact, I think it’s the best in the leg ext / curl attachment category (when it’s connected to the Levergym, Smith, or Rack).
I just wondered if Powertec might come out with a leg curl/extension like Titan has and be competitively priced. I'm waiting to see one on sale. We love our Powertec compact leg press by the way.@@HomeGymHacksandReviews
If you’re using a traditional lat bar, I think you’d be okay. But if you’re trying to use attachments that hang low like the Prime RO-T8 handles, you will not be able to get a full range of motion. I can’t remember off the top of my head, but I mention the distance between the seat and pulley, that measurement may be helpful in determining if this will be a good fit for you.
I don’t know the measurement of the old top tube, but it may look shorter because there are two additional uprights behind the shroud. This definitely adds to the stability of the machine and fixes the issue some people experienced with older models.
I don’t think so, but if I do, and come up with something decent, I’ll be sure to share it in a Short. Lately, I have been doing all of my belt squats like I show in the video before this one.
I bought this one after your review. Some points that were not in your review but seem important to bring out: Powertec confirmed that they DO NOT include the Allen key that is 100% needed in order to remove the bolt on the weight horn bar to allow attaching it to the weight stack. Not sure how they can charge $400 for that option and leave out a simple wrench! They include them with the basic hardware all the time! Also, the rollers that should keep you in place while using the machine will roll very easily. So, with each rep I get closer to the machine. After 5 reps my knees are against the metal cover. Never used a machine that had this flaw.
@@funshop1 I can’t remember if I addressed the Allen Key in my old Powertec Streamline Functional Trainer review. When I assembled the functional trainer with the plate stack (my first Powertec selectorized stack) I didn’t have the Allen Key and used a vice grip and that worked well. I didn’t leave out that detail intentionally, I’ve just accumulated so many Allen Wrenches over the years, I had one that fit it. However, I agree, a wrench should be included. As for the rollers, that is not an issue that stands out to me. I can’t remember ever using the machine and thinking the rollers don’t keep me in place; they do roll, but they don’t roll me out of position. I’ve had mine for about 10 months now and I like it as much, if not more, as the day I got it. Would you say you’re unhappy with your purchase?
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I’m not too happy with my purchase, but will find a way to solve the roller problem. Having the weight stack is really nice. Do you add lubricant to the guide rods on your machine? I did to my prior one from Titan.
@@funshop1 I am sorry to hear that. I want everyone to be happy if I recommend a machine. I personally like that the rollers roll because It helps me get locked into position; I roll myself close to the machine before my first rep. I am pretty sure some commercial Lat Pulldowns are the same. Please keep me updated. I hope you find that sweet spot to love the machine as much as I do.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews thanks. You did not mention anything regarding my question about the lubricating of the guide rods. Do you recommend that they be lubricated?
@@funshop1 sorry I missed that. Maybe once a year I’ll spray the guide rods on all my equipment with dry silicone spray, but I think all of my equipment operates smoothly as is.
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison because the Ironmaster piece is an attachment and the Powertec is a stand-alone machine. Both are smooth, but Powertec has a higher weight capacity, I believe a higher attachment point, more stable, and the option to add a selectorized stack.
@@sasdf2215 I would take the Powertec over the Ironmaster. The Powertec Lat Machine has a higher weight capacity and it can be backed against the wall; whereas, if the Ironmaster is backed against the wall, only one side of the machine can be used. However, if I had to move it around, the Ironmaster would be a better option because it has wheels.
@@NisAznMonk I like what Kaizen does. He’s a good guy and we’ve always supported one another. Another option to consider is my DIY Belt Squat, which I just posted a video for. It may not offer as much stability as Kaizen’s, but it’s always worked well for me.
Wow, Powertec should be Very Happy with you. Didn't you say that they pay you nothing? Why do you push a company so hard that offers you ZERO reward or not even a Thank You? They really have sent you nothing? You're the only person on RUclips that I've seen that is pushing Powertec equipment. Why do you like them so much? Were you using Powertec equipment when you first met your wife or Did you're childhood hero use Powertec, as much as you like this company there has got to be a sentimental reason because their equipment is fine and gets the job done but it's not anything life changing. They are better than Titan but not as good as REP when it comes to quality. I Love your enthusiasm for Powertec, just wondering where it came from.
Hey Bobby! lol! I could write a book about this, but I’ll try to be brief. I am a pretty loyal person and when I find something I like and something that works, I stick with it. I got my first Powertec Power Rack and Multipress over 15 years ago and immediately fell in love with the brand. I’ve had equipment in my gym from BodyMasters to Rogue, to Titan and I’ve worked in multiple commercial gyms. I think for the price, Powertec’s quality holds its own. Powertec has sent me some equipment and I include the “paid promotion” watermark in those videos and / or they will discount stuff for me (but many times, I just buy stuff when it’s on sale). Also, I am a Powertec affiliate, so if someone uses my affiliate link, I make a small commission. The President of the company has reached out multiple times and I think I have a pretty good relationship with him and other members of the organization.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Very Cool Powertec's stuff is high quality and nice equipment. Glad that see Yall are friends, Just looking from the outside, it seems that Powertec would be sending you all free stuff as you, to my knowledge, are the only influencer that Praises or even uses their equipment. None of my business though, and Powertec seems to be a good company, I was just curious if they brought back some nice memories or basically why you picked Powertec to back. I have things that I use because it brings back fun times, ex. my dumbbells and iron plates. Thnkx for your response Take Care
I appreciate the question. My home gym days go all the way back to the bodybuilding . com forums when Powertec was the only brand people on the forum recommended. I’ve stuck with them since then. Thanks again.
still waiting for a workbench attachment Lat Pull-down and Leg Press review. I believe those are your two “white whales” missing from your attachment review series.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews sorry didn’t mean to come off that direct. All your reviews are excellent hence you can understand my desire to see those last few 😂
@@Marine531 thank you so much. I appreciate you, “not beating around the bush” and only saw enthusiasm 🤓 . I have considered it a couple times during the sale Powertec is running. I’m just worried about duplicate pieces and limited space. With the Levergym and new lat pulldown, I just don’t think I would use the pulldown attachment and the 300 pound weight capacity of the LP attachment isn’t high enough for me. However, I definitely see the value in reviewing it for others.
@@balboa0621 I like the lower pulley / foot post design. The seat swivels over that area without issue and the design gives it a smaller footprint when compared to some of the other lat pulldown machines I’ve seen. I can’t do seated rows because of my back; I can only do chest supported rows, so a big footplate wouldn’t do me any good (but I know my situation is unique).
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I currently have the ironmasters lat tower, which I'll give you a shout out for being one of the few people to review. It works well, but as you mentioned, the low pulley loses some functionality. I'm interested in the powertec one because the stack isn't 300 pounds but with the weight horns, I can get into the low two hundreds. I do like the way the seat swivels, too, so the unit takes up a lot less space than other options. I'm just iffy about that foot bar...
@@balboa0621 thanks so much. I show it briefly in this video and if you check out my Powertec HQ Tour, I show how the seat swivels out of the way to offer a vertical line of drive for pushdowns, curls, etc. That function is what I think truly separates this machine from the others. As for the foot posts and seated rows; with the light weight I used, the posts felt comfortable on my shoes. Unfortunately, I can’t provide feedback for a 250 pound seated row.
My bank account gets really nervous when I watch your videos. Great job, as always.
lol! That’s why I only release videos a couple times a month. 🤓
"Wouldja look at that?" Been waiting on this review. Love a great back machine!
lol! After I assembled it, “I looked at it.”
Back days just got a lot better!
I’ve had the older version of this since 2019. You didn’t mention what looks to me like the biggest improvement - the two additional uprights right behind the shroud that are supporting the machine on the front side of the weight stack. The old version amazingly had no support on the front of the stack, other than the shroud itself which is quite flimsy in comparison. As you might imagine the machine as a whole was much less stable and swayed a lot in use. So much so that after I set it up and used it once I immediately figured out a way to make a bracket and bolt it to my basement wall. It’s been rock solid since then but I always mention this whenever anyone asks me about the tower. Glad to see they finally came to their senses and fixed this design flaw. This new version looks just as stable as mine but without needing the wall mount.
Also mine is 82” so sounds like this is a couple inches higher which is also good. I have a few attachments where I need to lean back slightly to avoid bottoming out the stack.
Hey, Tim! Good to hear you were able to modify the old design. I tried to touch on the redesign by saying each piece interlocks with the next for added stability, but I definitely should have gone into more detail about the posts behind the shroud.
@@timk8258 it’s definitely a good size for most basements, whereas some of the competitors in this category, are likely a bit too tall.
New to your channel but I’ve always thought this looked like one of the overlooked lat pulley towers on the market. Nice thorough review!
Thanks so much. This is a competitive category, but I think Powertec holds their own…especially with the updated features. Hopefully, this review helps to spread the word. Also, after I review a piece of equipment, I continue to show it in action over the course of months and, for some equipment, even years; so everyone can see how well it holds up. Thanks again. I appreciate you finding my channel.
Nice! I am very excited to see where Powertec is heading. They were pretty stagnant for a while, but it seems that they are more active as of late. On a side note, I like that gold anodized pin’s look 1000x as much as their traditional tonka truck yellow. Great review HGHR!
Thank you, BGB! I agree. There is so much competition now, all these companies will need to continue to innovate.
The Gold Pin is awesome. I noticed I called it an adjustment knob during the edit, but I couldn’t justify a reshoot. Thanks again, BGB!
Another comprehensive and informative review! Powertec makes great equipment and It's nice to see you demo some of the exercises you enjoy performing on your new smooth lat machine. You truly are the "HACK" master! 👍You look good at your new body weight. "Health" & fitness, in that order is key for longevity and vitality.
I really appreciate that. Thank you.
Thank you for the great review and the assembly instructions at the end. I just ordered through your affiliate link because of the review and the bit at the end will help when I assemble it soon.
@@justinbenolkin4224 thank you so much! That is so sincerely appreciated. Once you get the machine, please let me know what you think and / or if you have any questions. Thanks again!
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Just arrived two days ago. So far it is a great piece of equipment. Assembly was a little tedious. Lots of getting down and tightening bolts in hard to reach places. The one question I have for you is how much "play" is there on your top plate and the guide rods? The 10lb weight with the weight horns seems to have a lot of room round the guide rods. So when lifting only the weight horns it rattles more than I am used to. My inspire functional trainer seems to have less "play" around the guide rods when lifting only the top plate there.
@ I don’t think I’ve used the machine with 10 pounds so I just went out in the garage and tested it. There is a decent amount of space between the guide rods and bushings and I’m wondering if some of the play with the carriage is due to the weight horns and the additional width they provide.
@ thanks for checking on that. Yeah I figured it was just what you mentioned. I wanted to make sure I installed everything correctly so if you see the same thing then it should be all good.
@ absolutely. I checked all my other cable machines too; it’s very similar on the Powertec Streamline Functional Trainer and even my Cybex Adduction / Abduction Machine.
congrats on the new machine. Some days i do miss my Titan high/low. One day i'll likely get something else as well..Have a good week!!
Thanks BBD! I’m sure…this will be one of my most used machines. Same to you!
Thank you for this review. It helped me make a decision to purchase one. I can’t wait to get busy with this piece of equipment and I look forward to more videos.
Really appreciate it. Thank you. Please let me know what you think when you get it.
Glad to see them continue to innovate and improve their products and product range.
Definitely agree.
You said you’d pick the multipress and this machine over the levergym. What else would you add to this for a powertec only gym? Love the content and the realistic home gym approach
Thanks so much! The Compact Leg Sled for lower body. I really like the Powertec Leg Press, in fact, I think it’s the best home gym leg press on the market (I’ve had 2 of them), but I find the Compact Leg Sled more lower back friendly.
Against my better judgement, after watching this video, I ordered one. I currently have one of the older roller smiths with the lat attachment. As I'm getting older, I use the smith less and less. Figure I can sell that combo for at least what I paid for this. Also ordered the new version of the leg sled to replace my original version. It still works great, but I like the updates they've made enough to upgrade it. Thanks for the great videos!
That is awesome to hear. Please let me know what you think of each when they arrive. I hope you like both as much as I do.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviewsBoth are in and built. The LAT machine came with some damage to the lat bar holder hooks, but I bent it back in place and used the included touch up paint. No issues at all with the leg sled. I do have to ask, since you also have the weight stack - how do you get the pin to stay at the right height and facing the right direction when switching weights? I pull the pin in and seems to move out of place each time.
@@tribaltek I want to make sure I understand correctly: the selectorized pin for the Pulldown plate stack? It is magnetized, so it should stay in place. The spike that runs through the stack can be adjusted…loosen the nut and either tighten the spike or loosen the spike, then tighten the nut back to adjust the spike / cable.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I was referring to the spike that runs through the plate stack. I've adjusted quite a bit already with no real luck. Maybe the cable has to "settle" for a while before it figures out its preferred orientation? I'll try adjusting again later this week.
@@tribaltek it should be automatic…no settling needed. Also try putting the pin through one of the plates and into the spike and make the adjustment from there. Before I tightened everything into place, I made sure the pin went into every plate. If that doesn’t fix it, you may need to double check cable installation.
Gotta love the powertec reviews!!!
Thank you!
How does the low pull feel? Quite a few machines out there have reviews that the low pull is too low. I’m hoping that isn’t the case for this machine because I really like the 1:1 ratio, and the plate loaded AND weight stack option.
I like the low pulley placement. On machines where the low pulley is higher, for whatever reason, it aggravates my back. With that being said, I mainly perform chest supported rows and those work great on this machine.
I'll definitely get one of this once i move to the new house. This lat machine is the perfect combination for the force usa g3 V2.
I hope you like it as much as I do.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviewsoh, I will. Already have the powertec multipress with leg and curl attachments and I love it. Powertec don't save on protection and everything came out of the box without a single scratch, and for me it was a sign, straight out of the box, how much they care about their customers. And obviously the multipress is amazing. Really love powertec products, too bad they don't have a cable machine with a smith like other brands.
@@Hail_Chris.27 really good to hear. Although it’s not a functional trainer, the high / low pulley option can be connected to the Roller Smith.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I just uploaded a video of my DIY high and low cable fly on my low cost rack, if you want to check it out and tell me what you think, I would greatly appreciate 😁
Thanks for the video, you’ve really sold me on Powertec. Question, what is the cable attachment you are using from 5:47 to 6:10?
@@DaletheCasualGamer thank you. You’re probably asking about the Atlas Bar. I have a full review for it.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thanks!
It’s a bar with a bunch of holes along it that you used angle90s through the holes.
@@DaletheCasualGamer oh sorry. It’s the GymPin 20” Lite D Handle.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thanks so much! Just got the Compact Leg Sled put together … and the Lat Machine is on the way. Thanks for the in-depth videos!!
@@DaletheCasualGamer great to hear! I hope they work well for you and give you years of quality training.
Nice bit of kit. Thanks for the review.
Thanks so much!
The built in weight horns for the selectorized version is very nice. I also like the idea of the seat that swivels away. Is this machine less deep than the Titan or Bells? It looks like it, but it’s hard to tell for sure.
Agreed; great features.
According to their respective websites, the Powertec is 3” longer than the Titan and 10” shorter than the Bells. I think the Bells and Titan look nearly identical so I find it hard to believe the Titan is more than a foot shorter.
nice to see your video again.
Thank you!
Ha, we crazy home gym guys must think alike. I just bought the same model (without the stack) around the same time you did. Thanks for the review.
Nice! How are you liking it so far?
I’ve been kinda sidetracked, so I haven’t assembled it yet. I’m also waiting on delivery of the Freak Athlete Nordic Hyper. It looks really interesting & versatile.
@@rmartin9426 keep me posted.
Just bought the lat tower and rack combo based on your reviews,
and all your help answering questions during my research period .
Have a question
1: the rod that is in the middle doesn’t point straight up and down but is kinda touching plates before going down
2: the connecting wire that you screw into the top plate - how far to screw it in
I tried going all the way but before I did it started clicking and the top plate raised so I unscrewed it a bit just so the top plate rest naturally on the stack
I would have used a promo code to help you out,
but I live in Hungary
May talk about it on my channel, if so I’ll give you a shout out and tag Powertec to let them know.
…the instructions (horrible)😞
Thanks
@@pathtooptimalhealth thanks so much. It sounds like the top bolt needs to be adjusted a little if the post is hitting the plates.
I just turn it until I feel like enough of the bolt is threaded into the carriage. If the rubber stopper balls are too snug against the pulley wheels, I loosen the bolt and if the cable is too loose, I tighten it a bit.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews you’re awesome - will try. Thanks
@@pathtooptimalhealth any time. Let me know how it goes if you have a chance.
I've learned many tips watch your videos big thanks
I really appreciate the comment. Thank you.
Great review. I was looking at this recently. I really like the option of the lat pulldown with the half rack for the efficient use of space, but that lat pulldown lacks some of the features of the separate option for not much less $.
Thank you, Brian. The Pulldown and Half Rack is a great combo. It really adds a lot of stability to the rack too. I would like to see longer spotter arms, but I understand the reasoning for the length.
With the stand-alone I also appreciate how close I can get it to wall and how tight of a space I can fit it in by having the selectorized stack.
This took the place of the Nautilus Torso Arm (I gave it to my dad) and I like this much, much better.
Thank you for another great review video! This time I found your affiliate link and placed my order for this lat machine a few minutes ago. Regarding the weight stack option (which I did order also), with my 9-foot ceiling, should I go the route of installing the guide rods first and then dropping each weight plate into place? Not sure 9 feet would be enough to stack the plates first before installing the guide rods. Thanks
@@funshop1 thank you. I really appreciate that.
Just to be on the safe side, I would drop each plate down the guide rods rather than trying to slide the guide rods down the stacked plates. Please reach out if you have any questions during assembly.
How does this compare to the Ironmaster portable cable tower - or the IM2000 machine with its built in cable pulley system? Is it a better quality system with smoother motion and more flexibly for additional exercises? Appreciate you candid feedback between this pulldown machine and Ironmaster’s cable options.
I’m not sure it’s entirely fair to compare this against either of those options because one is an attachment and one is a high / low pulley connected to a Smith Machine. Luckily, all 3 are smooth, but the Powertec is much more convenient, smaller footprint, and the features are more high-end. My favorite of the 3 is the Powertec.
That’s fair, appreciate your candid feedback. I was considering the IM2000 and really like this powertec lat pulldown. Perhaps the right long-term answer is to get both! :). Thanks again!
@@dhsemp glad to help. lol…when in doubt.
Great review, thanks. I wanted to change out the pulleys to aluminum ones. Do you know the size of the included pulleys?
@@leprechaunOG1971 thank you. I just went out and measured - diameter is 4.5” x .75”
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thank you!
Hi there , plate loaded mean you provide your ow weights ? thank you
Yes. The machine can be loaded with your own plates or the selectorized stack can be purchased as an add on.
Nice video as usual. Can you tell me the weight of the "Weight Horns" alone. I am guessing around 10 lbs?
@@johnsfamilychannel6454 thank you. That is correct.
Hi, Thanks for the review. Did you ever use or did a review for the Powertec Lat attachment for their bench? I was not able to find the video if you did. Thanks
No…that is the only Workbench attachment I haven’t reviewed.
Just got the new 2023 version with weight stack, looking forward to setting it up and using it
Great to hear. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews had my first session using the new PT tower, very impressed with it, feel rock solid in use, no wobble etc, glad I went for the weight stack add-on, also picked up a PT leg sled 2019 version from marketplace for 450 in as new conditions.
@@williamaustin6132 thanks so much for the update and I’m glad you’re happy with it. It’s a great machine and I agree, the weight stack add on is worth the extra money.
Great video as always! I had to remove the Powertec faceplate on the functional trainer because it’s too narrow to fit my hand to grab the selector pin. I also didn’t like that it’s pushed out far so it’s difficult changing weight when you’re changing at an angle quickly.
Since downsizing, are you going to put the funds towards a mini split or other heating? Winter is coming.
I know what you’re saying, about the Functional Trainer, especially closer to the top of the stack. I’m glad to see Powertec made this improvement with this model.
I have someone coming out to give me a quote for a split system…it’s unfortunately taking longer than expected for our schedules to match up.
Sound is smooth…no clanking like the rogue lat stack.
* How is the previous version with clanging noises and operation
(Looking at getting the power rack with lat attached) thanks, brother 😊
Thanks so much. I’m not sure about the previous version of this Lat Machine, but over the last 15 years, I had 4 of the Powertec Lat Towers that connect to the Power Rack. I liked it enough to buy it 4 times 😀(whenever I move, I sell my equipment to make the move easier and then upgrade to the newest model).
I have an older review for the Lat Tower I had connected to the Powertec Smith Machine. I can’t remember if I use the lat machine in real time in that review, but if I don’t, I have my HIT training series videos where I use it and you will hear how it sounds.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews are they not the same in build? Thanks, btw
@@pathtooptimalhealth absolutely. Similar but not the same. If I remember correctly, the rack-connected lat tower is slightly shorter. When the Lat Tower is attached to a Power Rack, 1/2 Rack, or Smith, it is incredibly solid.
Great video! I’ve just set mine up (with the 190lb stack) and the selector rod doesn’t sit flush on the top on the stack. It’s almost like the upper cable isn’t long enough.. don’t suppose you have any ideas where to look? Thanks!
Thank you. It sounds like you need to adjust the bolt just above the stack. If you tighten it too much, the cable becomes too tight.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews appreciate the quick response! Is there somewhere I can send a picture to so you can see what’s happening? Also, which bolt specifically do you think I need to loosen? Thanks very much!
@@robertkarran8571 glad to help. There is a bolt that goes through the carriage, I believe a pulley is attached to the bolt. Then there is a nut that you can loosen or tighten to further secure the bolt that runs through the carriage. It sounds like that is the area you need to adjust.
Ah yeah, so that bolt doesn’t full stretch to be able to fit into the weight stack. And if I do fit it into the weight stack, the weight horn sits one selector higher than the stack, meaning I cant choose the 200lb plate at the bottom. Do you have an email I could send pictures too? Thanks
@@robertkarran8571 check my main RUclips page.
Can this machine have the weight horns and the stack move at same time? So you can get more weight moving once the stack has maxed out?
@@tonygillespie6907 yes, for a 500 pound max weight capacity.
How difficult do you find the max pin loaded capacity for lat pull downs personally?
@@tonygillespie6907 I have not maxed out the stack for any exercise…150-170 is the heaviest I’ve gone.
Great review. Minor nitpick; Powertec could have included a revolving lat bar. I think manufacturers will make high pulleys slightly taller in future, because people are using attachments like Gympin bars.
Thank you! A revolving lat bar would have been a solid addition.
I was stuck between this and the lat tower option several weeks ago. I just got the PowerTech half rack and have limited space so I went with the lat tower option. I wpuld have chosen this one if I had more space.
Haha! I'm guessing you watch the Golden Bachelor too? Same here
Luckily, you can’t go wrong with the Lat Tower Option. Of the 4 I had over the last 15 years, 2 were on Power Racks and 2 were on Roller Smiths. They got used all the time and they never let me down.
lol! I might be in the room while my wife is watching it 🤓
Hey man would you be able to measure the height of the low cable (where the ball and eyelet rest on the machine) and the width of the low row foot posts for me? 🙏
5.5” for the pulley and 15.25” for the posts.
If you buy the plate loaded option can you upgrade to a weight stack later?
Absolutely. However, if you buy them both together, it saves you $100 and you won’t need to disassemble the machine.
Thank you!!@@HomeGymHacksandReviews
Finally set mine up. Completely worth it.
That is great to hear! Thank you so much for the update.
Nice review. I’m strongly considering this pulldown but I have seen other Powertec videos with the lat pulldown that wobble/shake with the top arm sloped downward. Has the new version resolved this issue? Also, did you bolt yours down or free standing? TIA
@@JP-vq7wg thank you. This is the newest model which addressed the issue you’re talking about. Now, there are two additional beams behind the shroud for increased stability.
I did not bolt mine down, but I do have the selectorized stack which increases the machine’s stability.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews thank you very much! Are you still pleased with your purchase?
@ I couldn’t be happier with this machine; the only exercise I noticed I can’t do is a standing face pull with my foot braced against the seat because the cable will rub (but that’s not really an exercise I do anyway). And, as I mentioned in this video, I can’t use attachments that hang low, but I use the bar that comes with the machine most of the time.
Nice review, thank you. Have you already tried to do belt squats on the low pulley. I am on the fence to get the lat machine in addition to my Levergym because I don't like the resistance curve for pulldowns on the levergym. However, if I could perform belt squats on the lat machine it would make the choice so much easier.
Thank you. I have not tried Belt Squats, but I have seen others perform that exercise by creating a platform.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thank you. I am currently using a loading pin and reebok steps. The lat machine is on backorder in Europe so I’ll order one once it‘s available again.
@@Rodgauer-ho5ko I’m presently using a loading pin for belt squats too; I really like the exercise (I made a recent video of my present DIY Belt Squat).
I hope you like the Lat Machine as much as I do. It’s one of my favorite Powertec pieces.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I know. You are the reason why I got a levergym in the first place a couple of months again. I‘ve also seen your video on the belt squat but couldn‘t get my hands on these plyoboxes. The steps work well too.
@@Rodgauer-ho5ko good to hear your steps are working well for the belt squat set up.
Thanks so much.
As for the Levergym’s cable resistance profile, I have to admit I like it…the resistance drops off just ever so slightly at full contraction. With that said, I still like the Lat Machine better for cable work.
This machine looks badass and the price is amazing. I'm thinking about this or the titan pull down machine. My moneys on powertec rn seems like a much better engineered machine. Especially how the seat moves!
I’ve been very happy with it so far. I’ve only found the cable to rub when doing standing face pulls, but that can be fixed simply by kneeling down.
Like you said, the seat swiveling out of the way gives the cable a vertical line of drive for Tricep Push Downs and Curls…which makes this machine pretty unique.
Great review, I’m 6’3”, how do you think it would work for me?
@@jimclarke4390 thank you. With a regular lat bar, it should. With something like the Prime RO-T8 Handles that hang really low, no.
Just assembled my machine but had a question. Where does the key ring on the weight stack selector pin get attached to? Right now i just have it hanging off the weight stack as i use the machine. Thanks
@@JC-qu7iw I have the ring around the bolt that runs through the middle of the carriage.
@HomeGymHacksandReviews got it, works great. Thanks
@ great to hear.
Beautiful piece of equipment
Definitely agree!
What is the length from the back of the machine to the very front of the contour tubing where the low row feet attach? Trying to figure out the minimum length of the machine with the seat swiveled to the side. The Diamond metal floor plate really add to the length as it is flat.
I just measured to double check - 48” without the seat and 55” with the seat.
I'm looking forward to you rebuilding your gym. Hoping you get more Fettle Fitness gear to see if they actually hold high value along a long line of gear.
Thanks so much. Unless I get a bigger space, it’s unlikely I get any of those big commercial-grade single exercise machines.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I unfortunately need to get knee surgery and need to plan my long-term rehab and post rehab strength protocol. Plus old age. So I'm thinking of going to a leverage leg press machine for rehab and long-term safety use. Fettle Fitness seems a good possible solution for that. I have a space issue as well.
@@richardschank5568 I wish you well. My wife recently had two back-to-back surgeries in less than a year for her hip and later her knee…so I know the work you’ll be putting in to get back in action.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I wish her well in her recuperation.
@@richardschank5568 thank you. She hasn’t been able to run for a year, which is her favorite hobby. On the bright side, she has been able to lift.
I searched lat pulls for fucking ages before finally buying the bells of steel like a few days ago. Now im suddenly seeing all these other options i never noticed before like this powertec
The Bells is nice, but I like Powertec’s features better.
hello
can you please elaborate why you prefer Powertec vs BoS besides the price, please? @@HomeGymHacksandReviews
Nice piece here bro!
Very happy to add it to the gym.
Is the shroud essential to the machines stability? Or is it more of a cosmetic feature?
It’s a cosmetic feature. However, if it’s not installed, the holes where it gets screwed aren’t black so they would stand out.
Is this the new P-LM23 model? My local dealer is telling me that they are only receiving the P-LM20 model from Powertec and the 23 hasn't been released yet. Even the Powertec website is saying the latest/current model is the P-LM20 model with the die cut logo and angled stainless weight horns. Do you have any info on this? My biggest concern is receiving an older unit that doesn't have the new vertical bracing posts for the upper arm. Any info would be greatly appreciated before I order. Thanks for all the great content, man!!!
Thanks so much. This is LM23 and it’s the one Powertec is presently selling on their website. The pictures on Powertec’s webpage show the new adjustment knobs and just under the slideshow it shows, P-LM23. It has the 2 additional posts behind the shroud for increased stability.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Thank you so much for the quick reply! I'm minutes away from ordering this. Lol... I guess the confusion is the Powertec website is calling it P-LM23 in one spot and then the (P-LM20) down in the description adding confusion.
@@907AKOFT LM23 is definitely the one Powertec is shipping (I guess someone just forgot to update that section of the webpage).
How do you think this machine stacks up against the Titan lat pulldown? Another gem of a review!
Thank you! The selectorized or the plate loaded?
Plate loaded
Still waiting to see if Powertec comes out with a stand-alone leg curl/extension unit instead of just their accessory unit. Any rumors?
Not that I know of. Are you hoping for a prone leg curl or seated leg curl machine? I’m very happy with the attachment…in fact, I think it’s the best in the leg ext / curl attachment category (when it’s connected to the Levergym, Smith, or Rack).
I just wondered if Powertec might come out with a leg curl/extension like Titan has and be competitively priced. I'm waiting to see one on sale. We love our Powertec compact leg press by the way.@@HomeGymHacksandReviews
@@rogershinton7483 that is awesome to hear! Thanks so much!
Would you recomend this to someone who is 6 ft 5 inch tall. I was thinking about getting one?
If you’re using a traditional lat bar, I think you’d be okay. But if you’re trying to use attachments that hang low like the Prime RO-T8 handles, you will not be able to get a full range of motion. I can’t remember off the top of my head, but I mention the distance between the seat and pulley, that measurement may be helpful in determining if this will be a good fit for you.
Cool thank you.
it looks like they shortened that top pulley arm a little which i had seen in a couple other reviews could bend with heavier loads.
I don’t know the measurement of the old top tube, but it may look shorter because there are two additional uprights behind the shroud. This definitely adds to the stability of the machine and fixes the issue some people experienced with older models.
Any chance you’ll try doing belt squats with this?
I don’t think so, but if I do, and come up with something decent, I’ll be sure to share it in a Short. Lately, I have been doing all of my belt squats like I show in the video before this one.
I bought this one after your review. Some points that were not in your review but seem important to bring out: Powertec confirmed that they DO NOT include the Allen key that is 100% needed in order to remove the bolt on the weight horn bar to allow attaching it to the weight stack. Not sure how they can charge $400 for that option and leave out a simple wrench! They include them with the basic hardware all the time!
Also, the rollers that should keep you in place while using the machine will roll very easily. So, with each rep I get closer to the machine. After 5 reps my knees are against the metal cover. Never used a machine that had this flaw.
@@funshop1 I can’t remember if I addressed the Allen Key in my old Powertec Streamline Functional Trainer review. When I assembled the functional trainer with the plate stack (my first Powertec selectorized stack) I didn’t have the Allen Key and used a vice grip and that worked well. I didn’t leave out that detail intentionally, I’ve just accumulated so many Allen Wrenches over the years, I had one that fit it. However, I agree, a wrench should be included.
As for the rollers, that is not an issue that stands out to me. I can’t remember ever using the machine and thinking the rollers don’t keep me in place; they do roll, but they don’t roll me out of position.
I’ve had mine for about 10 months now and I like it as much, if not more, as the day I got it. Would you say you’re unhappy with your purchase?
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I’m not too happy with my purchase, but will find a way to solve the roller problem. Having the weight stack is really nice.
Do you add lubricant to the guide rods on your machine? I did to my prior one from Titan.
@@funshop1 I am sorry to hear that. I want everyone to be happy if I recommend a machine. I personally like that the rollers roll because
It helps me get locked into position; I roll myself close to the machine before my first rep. I am pretty sure some commercial Lat Pulldowns are the same.
Please keep me updated. I hope you find that sweet spot to love the machine as much as I do.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews thanks. You did not mention anything regarding my question about the lubricating of the guide rods. Do you recommend that they be lubricated?
@@funshop1 sorry I missed that. Maybe once a year I’ll spray the guide rods on all my equipment with dry silicone spray, but I think all of my equipment operates smoothly as is.
How does it compare to the ironmaster tower?
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison because the Ironmaster piece is an attachment and the Powertec is a stand-alone machine. Both are smooth, but Powertec has a higher weight capacity, I believe a higher attachment point, more stable, and the option to add a selectorized stack.
Would you put this or the ironmaster in a studio apartment? (Rented)
@@sasdf2215 I would take the Powertec over the Ironmaster. The Powertec Lat Machine has a higher weight capacity and it can be backed against the wall; whereas, if the Ironmaster is backed against the wall, only one side of the machine can be used. However, if I had to move it around, the Ironmaster would be a better option because it has wheels.
Where is your affiliate link? I’d like to place my order 🙂
Very cool of you. In the About section on my main RUclips page and / or in the description of one of my older videos.
Just ordered it. Please continue to do great work!
@@NisAznMonk thank you and please let me know what you think.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I will. I hope to also build a diy belt squat similar to what Kaizen DIY did with his Bells of Steel cable column.
@@NisAznMonk I like what Kaizen does. He’s a good guy and we’ve always supported one another.
Another option to consider is my DIY Belt Squat, which I just posted a video for. It may not offer as much stability as Kaizen’s, but it’s always worked well for me.
Wow, Powertec should be Very Happy with you. Didn't you say that they pay you nothing? Why do you push a company so hard that offers you ZERO reward or not even a Thank You?
They really have sent you nothing?
You're the only person on RUclips that I've seen that is pushing Powertec equipment.
Why do you like them so much? Were you using Powertec equipment when you first met your wife or Did you're childhood hero use Powertec, as much as you like this company there has got to be a sentimental reason because their equipment is fine and gets the job done but it's not anything life changing.
They are better than Titan but not as good as REP when it comes to quality.
I Love your enthusiasm for Powertec, just wondering where it came from.
Hey Bobby! lol! I could write a book about this, but I’ll try to be brief.
I am a pretty loyal person and when I find something I like and something that works, I stick with it. I got my first Powertec Power Rack and Multipress over 15 years ago and immediately fell in love with the brand.
I’ve had equipment in my gym from BodyMasters to Rogue, to Titan and I’ve worked in multiple commercial gyms. I think for the price, Powertec’s quality holds its own.
Powertec has sent me some equipment and I include the “paid promotion” watermark in those videos and / or they will discount stuff for me (but many times, I just buy stuff when it’s on sale).
Also, I am a Powertec affiliate, so if someone uses my affiliate link, I make a small commission.
The President of the company has reached out multiple times and I think I have a pretty good relationship with him and other members of the organization.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews
Very Cool
Powertec's stuff is high quality and nice equipment. Glad that see Yall are friends,
Just looking from the outside, it seems that Powertec would be sending you all free stuff as you, to my knowledge, are the only influencer that Praises or even uses their equipment.
None of my business though, and Powertec seems to be a good company, I was just curious if they brought back some nice memories or basically why you picked Powertec to back.
I have things that I use because it brings back fun times, ex. my dumbbells and iron plates.
Thnkx for your response
Take Care
I appreciate the question. My home gym days go all the way back to the bodybuilding . com forums when Powertec was the only brand people on the forum recommended. I’ve stuck with them since then. Thanks again.
The 20% off makes this so much more attractive to get.
It makes it much less expensive than the other popular residential selectorized Pulldowns and I think it looks better too.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews Agree. I just have a space problem else I buy it.
@@TheGhu123 the most difficult aspect of having a home gym.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews How high is the seat on this? Can you use the Prime RO8 handles on these with full ROM?
@@TheGhu123 about midway through the video, I address both topics.
still waiting for a workbench attachment Lat Pull-down and Leg Press review. I believe those are your two “white whales” missing from your attachment review series.
I have come close to reviewing both. I might get to them at some point. I really appreciate the suggestion.
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews sorry didn’t mean to come off that direct. All your reviews are excellent hence you can understand my desire to see those last few 😂
@@Marine531 thank you so much. I appreciate you, “not beating around the bush” and only saw enthusiasm 🤓 .
I have considered it a couple times during the sale Powertec is running. I’m just worried about duplicate pieces and limited space. With the Levergym and new lat pulldown, I just don’t think I would use the pulldown attachment and the 300 pound weight capacity of the LP attachment isn’t high enough for me. However, I definitely see the value in reviewing it for others.
The low row foot brace is a big miss. Just put a foot plate!
@@balboa0621 I like the lower pulley / foot post design. The seat swivels over that area without issue and the design gives it a smaller footprint when compared to some of the other lat pulldown machines I’ve seen.
I can’t do seated rows because of my back; I can only do chest supported rows, so a big footplate wouldn’t do me any good (but I know my situation is unique).
@@HomeGymHacksandReviews I currently have the ironmasters lat tower, which I'll give you a shout out for being one of the few people to review. It works well, but as you mentioned, the low pulley loses some functionality. I'm interested in the powertec one because the stack isn't 300 pounds but with the weight horns, I can get into the low two hundreds. I do like the way the seat swivels, too, so the unit takes up a lot less space than other options. I'm just iffy about that foot bar...
@@balboa0621 thanks so much. I show it briefly in this video and if you check out my Powertec HQ Tour, I show how the seat swivels out of the way to offer a vertical line of drive for pushdowns, curls, etc. That function is what I think truly separates this machine from the others.
As for the foot posts and seated rows; with the light weight I used, the posts felt comfortable on my shoes. Unfortunately, I can’t provide feedback for a 250 pound seated row.