This. Elder Scrolls has been taken over by nose rings and rainbow hair. Definitely geared for the "modern audience." No thanks. Light No Fire is on my radar.
@@Nobby-Nobbler I miss the traps in the dungeons... ESO can really lean into traps in Delves if they were actually deadly What is the point of putting mobs and traps in Delves if you can just sprint through everything?
@@Ghostbear.78 it was actually difficult. The opposite of basically all MMOs these days. MMOs these days are all about solo-play... It is just..... Wrong
Yeah, that's what I heard from a lot of folks in ESO. Too bad, ESO was fun and I only stopped playing because ZOS let the PvP server performance get so bad. Server performance at peak times were unplayable in any big fight...a major downside since the game billed itself as having large-scale PvP.
@@minddamage66you know how much money mount sales make in MMO's? Hell yeah its worth it lol Pay a dev 30-70k/year for several million in revenue? All day.
At this point, it’s the only route they can take with Starfield. They built it. It’s already there so why not make it a MMO. The developers did not Think this would be so underwhelming to the community they thought this would be the next huge Skyrim and space game, (which I was hoping for personally myself) many of the components already there so they are halfway done. In my opinion they just need to tweak some things. Hopefully they NPC‘s will look a little better. (They scare me. That’s why I don’t play anymore.) but seriously that would be the way to go make it a massive multiplayer online in space with factions and huge guilds space battles, on land and in space.
I hope not Star Wars. I would never get into bed with Disney for a project. You would have to both put up with their constant interference and share in the profits of your labour for something you could just do with an original IP of your own. I hope not Starfield. It was a boring and lackluster setting and lacked playable alien races. I play a human in real life, if I am playing a sci-fi I would rather be almost anything else. I liked Star Trek Online's custom race options in the character creator but I thought the gameplay, lack of good storytelling, and all the best ships being for cash money ruined it. Show me hi-science with cool playable races, good story telling, good combat mechanics, A real feeling of exploration of truly alien looking worlds, and then I might get excited.
Man. If they made a new MMO that was a futuristic ESO/Shadowrun combine. Maybe ESO in the far future with technology and magic with all the Elder Scrolls lore magic vs technology. Dedric Princes making their way in a technology world. ❤
@@fffx2 ESO is not Skyrim with multiplayer. A Starfield MMO would not be Starfield with multiplayer. They could do so much more different things with it. Look at Fallout 76
And they have a lizard race. I recently left EQ2, thought abought going to wow, played it a bit in the past or even to SWToR, played a sniper but will wait for this if its real.
"Starfield online" is almost certainly not gonna happen, since it's too complex and Bethesda itself failed to make it good even as a single player. But if it's not in fact a completely new franchise, it doesn't have to be a native Bethesda's IP. I bet they can sell plenty of cosmetics in something Dishonored-inspired (especially since they killed Arkane Austin). There's a void in the market that begs to be filled with something steampunk-ish-themed. Another possibility can be Rage. I can almost see it in my head, essentialy a mix of Fallout 76, Mad Max and Borderlands...
Starfield Online is exactly what it's going to be, because they're just copying what they did with Skyrim, because they are nothing if not formulaic. It was already planned long ago before the current situation of Starfield. Doesn't matter how stupid it is. That is of no hinderence to them, lol.
Seems like a decent prediction which would make sense, I certainly don't have any better ideas and I'm impressed that they've managed to keep it so quiet, it really is a tight-lipped team.
Honestly, a Starfield MMO in a new game engine would actually be kind of cool. That was my biggest complaint with Starfield. Modern tech allows for seemless transitions between the exterior and the interior of buildings, caves, ships, etc. The loading screens are too much for me as they were a little immersion breaking at times. So building a new engine for their IP of Starfield makes a lot of sense to me. Like I wonder if they're trying to make a new game to try and compete with EVE Online
Hopefully their servers do better. I loved ESO, but stopped playing when their PvP servers became unplayable in any largescale fight. Talking to a dev, this was ZOS fault 100%. The lag issues were heavily related to the script and rendering of AoE ground effects, which due to how they were scripted in were very difficult to fix. Hopefully ZOS learned from this...
Its a space MMO using starfield IP, why would anyone think otherwise its pretty obvious. Why would a billion dollar corp take a risk making new stuff? They just don't do that.
I loved ESo until I didn't. I got tired of never getting anything interesting that I didn't buy in the cash shop. If you're into it for the stories only thats cool but I prefer a game where you actually find great loot by exploring or completing quests. It's also not for casual gamers who play other games. The top loot that you could get was always in the pvp area. I hate pvp. So, i'll wait to see what the micro transactions and cash shop is like before getting their new IP.
If it was an MMORPG, we would have heard something about it by now. They have clearly changed direction since these rumors first started all those years ago. It will be an online game, but it won't be an MMORPG - as distinct difference, imo.
Maybe the vehicles are the players character? This would actually be crazy. Your gear is all parts, stats ofcourse would directly correlate with parts. Torque, fuel, armor, grip, weapon slots etc...Twisted metal online. There I said it.
I can imagine Eso with mods and playing the game offline completely that would be pretty cool hope one day it happens still I am curious of that new MMO they are developing
Yeah I just love watching videos about mmos, mmos are my passion and if you know anything about how much I love mmos you'd know my mmo passion is extensive. Oh the best mmos out there im on them, like that one mmo I been playing since I been into mmos it's just madness really, the amount of mmos I play just cant get enough mmos
Just going to throw this out here. A Mass Effect MMO would be the best Sci-Fi MMO ever. lol I think they are doing an original Sci-Fi MMO though. I don't think they are going to do Starfield... it hasn't been well received.
@@HackTheMinotaur Why not, just add more powers and make cooldowns 1 second instead of 1 minute per power, add more buttons for "spells" and there you go. Remove powers that slow time and effect the world, like slowdowns. But yeah, we will see. Im usually wrong with my quesses tho :D
@@HackTheMinotaur And "slow time" kind of spells could be area of effect spells so whole server doesn´t crash every time you use it, and solar powers could be like fire spells in other mmo:s etc. Ship combat + starborn powers would be insane
It's really not that bad. Yes, a subscription is very helpful for a few things, the craft bag mostly, but most people who are relatively new to the game and want to play everything would probably want a sub anyway, since there's a lot of DLC by this point that would add up to a pretty penny if you wanted to buy all of them instead of paying the sub. And that's what you're really funding with a sub, the kind of regular contents updates you don't get in a lot of MMOs. Outside of that, I'm not sure what if anything you would feel forced to buy that's really necessary to play the content.
Only thing wrong in this video is spending more than thirty-seconds or sixty-seconds explaining what the title intuits to the audience, instead of the remainder of the video spent glazing advertisers and the studio itself. At least offer chapters or points if you are going to spend such a significant quantity of time just offering a puff piece.
yeah I just don't see it being Starfield, MMOs are massive investments and Zanimax/Bethesda doubling down on a single IP that just started full development at that time is just such a bad business move, but I wouldn't be surprise if it is ScI-Fi at least. Like if you're ZoS, would you want to launch a Fantasy MMOs while you main money maker is a Fantasy MMO. BUT i'm going to call it right here that it is a Super Hero MMO, purely because there's a higher up at ZOS that really likes Marvel.
I've been playing Medieval RPG MMO's like ESO, WOW, Guildwars, Everquest, ect.. for over 20 years, i'm over it. I tried out Cyberpunk 2077 when Phantom Liberty dropped, is an amazing game that i have played through multiple times and still have not completed all the endings. The Cyberpunk world would definitely be an awesome MMO and i wish they would develop one, i think most people are burned out on Medieval times and want to play in the future especially with todays design and graphics capabilities. I think ZM is picking up on this, since their new iP will be more modern. However a Starfield MMO would need a serious reboot, the game mechanics and graphics of NPC's were a huge disappointment.
Im big fan of fantasy and medieval games but I have to agree, mmo set in future would be dope. Personally I'd love something like Shadowrun or similar tech + magic setting but even pure sci-fi mmo would be great
I am only interested in medieval fantasy. But I'm happy for sci-fi fans to have an MMO. Especially since that means guns are less likely to appear in my medieval fantasy games.
@@lorgren4002 Shadowrun was a brilliant RPG. One game that has never had a mention was the Paranoia RPG. An MMO based on that game would be so much fun.
A space-themed MMO with a more RPG/ESO feel to it would be awesome, but for it to be Starfield, nah. I think in this instance "new IP" is literal. They're creating a brand new space-themed IP. Starfield isn't a stable enough in public opinion as an IP for anyone to hang their MMO hat on.
I'm a subscriber, been a subscriber for a long while now, but today I said enough is enough. I watched 3 minutes of ads before the video began, and then just 37 seconds into the video, I have to watch another minute and 20 seconds of one long ad for the sponsor. The only reason I watched it that long was so I could time it and complain about it in a comment, but I'm not going to watch the rest of the video. Each time there's a sponsor ad in the video after I watched 3 minutes of ads before the video began, I'm just going to close it out. Eventually the youtube data will show people are abandoning in when the ads come on, and then maybe someone will have the brilliant idea of confronting youtube about the loss of money because they're driving the viewers away with the ads.
Not to be mean but considering the way they treat their current players and maintain their product, I would not drop a penny on any future property they put out.
From what I’ve seen it’s not really a reboot since it’s the exact same as it has been, just more solo friendly. The Steam numbers the other day weren’t even enough to fill a single server.
I'm already expecting it to be a shit show. They no longer know how to make games. I doubt they even have any devs remaining from skyrim, and everyone there has been taught and directed to mainly chase cash grabs. As the biggest focus bethesda has done in the last 15 years were ESO and Fallout 76. Both were rushed releases, have micro transactions up the ying yang, and lack a lot of what makes them special as a developer.
New World is old world. I played 250+ hrs near launch and the new thing just makes it more solo friendly. It’s still the same game it’s been for years.
Nope. One vote against ever getting involved with another live service from Bethesda or Zenimax. Not everyone will vote this way, but there are a LOT that will never engage with them again. Way WAAY WAAAYYY too MTX-happy of a studio.
If their next game is a Starfield MMO, I think they're in trouble. Starfield just didn't compete; the engine looks tired and dated, and their storytelling hasn't kept pace with so many great titles on the market. Their previous MMOs were able to build off of the excitement of those franchises.
agreed the single player game engine used for Starfield is limited. The zenimax engine for ESO is entirely different than Skyrim engine. So a starfield MMO would not need to be held back by a single player engine used in Starfield proper. Thankfully. I like the ESO controller gameplay way better than Skyrims UI and controller limitations.
Their engine is tired and dated but can hold more objects than ue5? Starfield might not have hit with you but it hit with a lot of people who like the sandbox Bethesda makes. I don't think they're making a Starfield mmo because this was supposed to be their own IP.
@@Tport712 I mean, when I look at the steam charts, Starfield has about 1/3 the concurrent players as Skyrim at the moment and 1/2 as many concurrent players as No Man's Sky. Skyrim is an 11 year old game, and I remember when ESO launched, people who didn't like Skyrim but loved Morrowind and Oblivion, were excited about hoping back into those environs with ESO. I just don't think there is enough excitement surrounding Starfield for there to be a profitable MMO made with this IP.
@@kestrik Skyrim is also the evolution of their main IP that has had 11 years of mods to apply to it. You can do pretty much anything with Skyrim. Starfield is a brand new IP that is not sitting well with every Bethesda fan that is for sure, but again there are still plenty of people that love the sand box. Ive been playing the best Star Wars RPG because of this game and the mod creators that are continuously adding new things to the game. Saying the game is not popular is not the same as saying the game is technically well made. There are a few RUclipsrs that have shown off the weird things that you can do in this engine as opposed to other engines and it is no slouch.
I sincerely hope you're wrong and it isn't a Starfield mmo. Even though I haven't played it, what I've seen and heard about the game has not made me want to go out and buy it. Earlier today I was watching a video going over the entire games main story with gameplay included. The world is empty and the physics are completely ridiculous having current day type weapons able to work on the moon. Count me our if it's a Starfield mmo!
If it is Starfield, they need to narrow the scope. Narrow it down to 2 or 3 solar systems to begin with. They can always expand the universe later. We care more about quality than size. Also, have a decent and non-repetitive storyline. I stopped playing Starfield because it became too repetitive and boring. Allow us to explore on unique and beautiful planets that are not filled with boring open space. And lastly…intelligent aliens…have alien races we can communicate with. The alien life in the current Starfield…boring.
WOuld love go back to ESO, I use to play on Ps4 but I've since made the switch to PC and unfortunately ESO isn't cross save. Until they can do cross-save, I wont be returning to the game. 6k hours, over $6k USD It's not worth it for me to start over again.
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Personally, looking forward to Light No Fire by Hello Games - not sure if it’s an MMO or a Co-Op Open World, but looks good
This.
Elder Scrolls has been taken over by nose rings and rainbow hair. Definitely geared for the "modern audience."
No thanks.
Light No Fire is on my radar.
ZoS should buy the IP for WildStar and re-launch it!
Damn straight - I miss that game! (I miss the housing!!!)...... I miss the batshit crazy hamsters!!! (Love the Chua's!)
@@Nobby-Nobbler I miss the traps in the dungeons... ESO can really lean into traps in Delves if they were actually deadly
What is the point of putting mobs and traps in Delves if you can just sprint through everything?
I have been trying to find another "WildStar" but have thus far been unsuccessful. I would love to see it return.
Love Wildstar too. Really hope a great dev revives that game. Wildstar with UE5 graphics could be amazing.
@@Ghostbear.78 it was actually difficult. The opposite of basically all MMOs these days. MMOs these days are all about solo-play... It is just..... Wrong
ESO feels like it's been on life support for a while. ZoS is putting all their effort in the new MMO
I get that vibe playing it too.
Yeah, that's what I heard from a lot of folks in ESO. Too bad, ESO was fun and I only stopped playing because ZOS let the PvP server performance get so bad. Server performance at peak times were unplayable in any big fight...a major downside since the game billed itself as having large-scale PvP.
that vehicle dev job doesnt really limit to modern/Sci Fi as even horses/mounts are called vehicles in dev work most of the time
Yea but would they put that much emphasis on mounts?
@@minddamage66you know how much money mount sales make in MMO's? Hell yeah its worth it lol
Pay a dev 30-70k/year for several million in revenue? All day.
3mins in and I got fed up waiting for you to get to the fricken game name... can stay a secret...
At this point, it’s the only route they can take with Starfield. They built it. It’s already there so why not make it a MMO. The developers did not Think this would be so underwhelming to the community they thought this would be the next huge Skyrim and space game, (which I was hoping for personally myself) many of the components already there so they are halfway done. In my opinion they just need to tweak some things. Hopefully they NPC‘s will look a little better. (They scare me. That’s why I don’t play anymore.) but seriously that would be the way to go make it a massive multiplayer online in space with factions and huge guilds space battles, on land and in space.
i would LOOOOVE a starfield MMO
All of this means we will see this new "secret MMO" in about 20 years.
I hope not Star Wars. I would never get into bed with Disney for a project. You would have to both put up with their constant interference and share in the profits of your labour for something you could just do with an original IP of your own.
I hope not Starfield. It was a boring and lackluster setting and lacked playable alien races. I play a human in real life, if I am playing a sci-fi I would rather be almost anything else.
I liked Star Trek Online's custom race options in the character creator but I thought the gameplay, lack of good storytelling, and all the best ships being for cash money ruined it.
Show me hi-science with cool playable races, good story telling, good combat mechanics, A real feeling of exploration of truly alien looking worlds, and then I might get excited.
It is a NEW ip, so not star wars it wouldnt be something we know
Man. If they made a new MMO that was a futuristic ESO/Shadowrun combine. Maybe ESO in the far future with technology and magic with all the Elder Scrolls lore magic vs technology. Dedric Princes making their way in a technology world. ❤
I have not heard Shadowrun in forever. Love that series
I would play the hell out of starfield eso style lol.
An ESO-like Starfield MMO would be freaking amazing
Starfield lore is way too empty for this sort of game
@@fffx2 ESO is not Skyrim with multiplayer. A Starfield MMO would not be Starfield with multiplayer. They could do so much more different things with it. Look at Fallout 76
@@fffx2 Probably why they hired a loremaster :)
And they have a lizard race. I recently left EQ2, thought abought going to wow, played it a bit in the past or even to SWToR, played a sniper but will wait for this if its real.
The second MMO will probably STILL drop before Elder Scrolls 6.
maybe!
"Starfield online" is almost certainly not gonna happen, since it's too complex and Bethesda itself failed to make it good even as a single player. But if it's not in fact a completely new franchise, it doesn't have to be a native Bethesda's IP. I bet they can sell plenty of cosmetics in something Dishonored-inspired (especially since they killed Arkane Austin). There's a void in the market that begs to be filled with something steampunk-ish-themed. Another possibility can be Rage. I can almost see it in my head, essentialy a mix of Fallout 76, Mad Max and Borderlands...
Starfield Online is exactly what it's going to be, because they're just copying what they did with Skyrim, because they are nothing if not formulaic. It was already planned long ago before the current situation of Starfield. Doesn't matter how stupid it is. That is of no hinderence to them, lol.
Seems like a decent prediction which would make sense, I certainly don't have any better ideas and I'm impressed that they've managed to keep it so quiet, it really is a tight-lipped team.
I think you're right. With star citizen coming out in 5 or 6 years from now, I think a starfield MMO would like to compete
Would’ve loved a Fallout mmo in the same style as eso
Fallout 76 is probably the best you're going to get.
Honestly, a Starfield MMO in a new game engine would actually be kind of cool. That was my biggest complaint with Starfield. Modern tech allows for seemless transitions between the exterior and the interior of buildings, caves, ships, etc. The loading screens are too much for me as they were a little immersion breaking at times. So building a new engine for their IP of Starfield makes a lot of sense to me. Like I wonder if they're trying to make a new game to try and compete with EVE Online
Hopefully their servers do better. I loved ESO, but stopped playing when their PvP servers became unplayable in any largescale fight.
Talking to a dev, this was ZOS fault 100%. The lag issues were heavily related to the script and rendering of AoE ground effects, which due to how they were scripted in were very difficult to fix. Hopefully ZOS learned from this...
Its a space MMO using starfield IP, why would anyone think otherwise its pretty obvious. Why would a billion dollar corp take a risk making new stuff? They just don't do that.
Why make it based off a failed game though? That sounds worse than taking a gamble.
Its star wars, its the only Disney IP Bethesda hasnt announced a game for
I loved ESo until I didn't. I got tired of never getting anything interesting that I didn't buy in the cash shop. If you're into it for the stories only thats cool but I prefer a game where you actually find great loot by exploring or completing quests. It's also not for casual gamers who play other games. The top loot that you could get was always in the pvp area. I hate pvp. So, i'll wait to see what the micro transactions and cash shop is like before getting their new IP.
If it was an MMORPG, we would have heard something about it by now. They have clearly changed direction since these rumors first started all those years ago. It will be an online game, but it won't be an MMORPG - as distinct difference, imo.
Maybe the vehicles are the players character? This would actually be crazy. Your gear is all parts, stats ofcourse would directly correlate with parts. Torque, fuel, armor, grip, weapon slots etc...Twisted metal online. There I said it.
lol you really think Zenimax, a Microsoft owned company is going to be making an mmo on a Sony owned IP? Lol wtf
@FlowChicago clearly it's starfield online, just theorizing something fun, damn who touched you as a kid?
a starfield mmo would be horrid, i dont think you hire a loremaster if you werent going to make a new IP
bro there isnt even aliens in starfield. only playable race being human? boring
I can imagine Eso with mods and playing the game offline completely that would be pretty cool hope one day it happens still I am curious of that new MMO they are developing
Crazy I was in high school when ESO dropped
Yeah I just love watching videos about mmos, mmos are my passion and if you know anything about how much I love mmos you'd know my mmo passion is extensive. Oh the best mmos out there im on them, like that one mmo I been playing since I been into mmos it's just madness really, the amount of mmos I play just cant get enough mmos
Starfield online 100%.. I agree with pretty much all of your predictions and deductions!! Great vid and already gets me hyped lol
Think your right, seems very likely It will be a starfield mmo I thought this when I first heard of the new mmo
Isn't it supposed to be a Star Wars MMO?
Vehicle = Horse-drawn carriage
Maybe??
If their new game is star field then count me out.
If ESO had released with UE5, it would have been way better. The current graphics look so so bland.
Just going to throw this out here. A Mass Effect MMO would be the best Sci-Fi MMO ever. lol
I think they are doing an original Sci-Fi MMO though. I don't think they are going to do Starfield... it hasn't been well received.
Maybe the zenimax starborn trademark was for this mmo, not the next dlc
Thought about this too but I don’t think the Starborn powers fit an MMO. We will see
@@HackTheMinotaur Why not, just add more powers and make cooldowns 1 second instead of 1 minute per power, add more buttons for "spells" and there you go. Remove powers that slow time and effect the world, like slowdowns. But yeah, we will see. Im usually wrong with my quesses tho :D
@@villes5835 could work as an ultimate skill possibly!
@@HackTheMinotaur And "slow time" kind of spells could be area of effect spells so whole server doesn´t crash every time you use it, and solar powers could be like fire spells in other mmo:s etc. Ship combat + starborn powers would be insane
Pay for youtube an you still listen to adds
Hi HTM, can you link your sources please?
I'll get these added to the description!
I wonder how many other RUclipsrs are sponsored by Warthunder
Nearly everyone has been
"starfield: online"
i tried new world over the weekend for xbox , what’s a rogue /nightblade class for new world ? ( i need a mmo to sink my teeth into )
Throne and liberty releases really soon.
I dunno, the monetization of ESO automatically turns me off from any project Zenimax have a hand in.
Monetization? Dude they only have sub and cosmetic items everything else is earned in game.
Why does it turn you off its the same as other big name mmos cosmetic everything else you can earn in game or buy just to get earlier
It's really not that bad. Yes, a subscription is very helpful for a few things, the craft bag mostly, but most people who are relatively new to the game and want to play everything would probably want a sub anyway, since there's a lot of DLC by this point that would add up to a pretty penny if you wanted to buy all of them instead of paying the sub. And that's what you're really funding with a sub, the kind of regular contents updates you don't get in a lot of MMOs. Outside of that, I'm not sure what if anything you would feel forced to buy that's really necessary to play the content.
Apart from the resource bag you get nothing significant from the membership.
i agree at least for dlc and such
Good lord I hope its not starfield related. Talk about a boring, generic universe.
Sounds to me like rage or starfield mmo
Yeah ZoS... Nah.
Starfield MMO
Only thing wrong in this video is spending more than thirty-seconds or sixty-seconds explaining what the title intuits to the audience, instead of the remainder of the video spent glazing advertisers and the studio itself. At least offer chapters or points if you are going to spend such a significant quantity of time just offering a puff piece.
DOOM Online
agreed
Ashes of creation is the only thing im waiting on everything else is p2w garbage you dont even have to play to know
yeah I just don't see it being Starfield, MMOs are massive investments and Zanimax/Bethesda doubling down on a single IP that just started full development at that time is just such a bad business move, but I wouldn't be surprise if it is ScI-Fi at least. Like if you're ZoS, would you want to launch a Fantasy MMOs while you main money maker is a Fantasy MMO.
BUT i'm going to call it right here that it is a Super Hero MMO, purely because there's a higher up at ZOS that really likes Marvel.
I've been playing Medieval RPG MMO's like ESO, WOW, Guildwars, Everquest, ect.. for over 20 years, i'm over it. I tried out Cyberpunk 2077 when Phantom Liberty dropped, is an amazing game that i have played through multiple times and still have not completed all the endings. The Cyberpunk world would definitely be an awesome MMO and i wish they would develop one, i think most people are burned out on Medieval times and want to play in the future especially with todays design and graphics capabilities. I think ZM is picking up on this, since their new iP will be more modern. However a Starfield MMO would need a serious reboot, the game mechanics and graphics of NPC's were a huge disappointment.
Im big fan of fantasy and medieval games but I have to agree, mmo set in future would be dope. Personally I'd love something like Shadowrun or similar tech + magic setting but even pure sci-fi mmo would be great
I am only interested in medieval fantasy.
But I'm happy for sci-fi fans to have an MMO.
Especially since that means guns are less likely to appear in my medieval fantasy games.
@@lorgren4002 Shadowrun was a brilliant RPG. One game that has never had a mention was the Paranoia RPG. An MMO based on that game would be so much fun.
A space-themed MMO with a more RPG/ESO feel to it would be awesome, but for it to be Starfield, nah. I think in this instance "new IP" is literal. They're creating a brand new space-themed IP. Starfield isn't a stable enough in public opinion as an IP for anyone to hang their MMO hat on.
I'm a subscriber, been a subscriber for a long while now, but today I said enough is enough. I watched 3 minutes of ads before the video began, and then just 37 seconds into the video, I have to watch another minute and 20 seconds of one long ad for the sponsor. The only reason I watched it that long was so I could time it and complain about it in a comment, but I'm not going to watch the rest of the video. Each time there's a sponsor ad in the video after I watched 3 minutes of ads before the video began, I'm just going to close it out. Eventually the youtube data will show people are abandoning in when the ads come on, and then maybe someone will have the brilliant idea of confronting youtube about the loss of money because they're driving the viewers away with the ads.
Not to be mean but considering the way they treat their current players and maintain their product, I would not drop a penny on any future property they put out.
Mad Max
ZOS doesn't care about its players as shown by its poor communications with them. Why should I care about any MMO they may launch in the future?
HACK!
Are you going to cover the "reboot" of New world?
dead on arrival
I missed the beta but I do want to check out how it plays on consoles
@@HackTheMinotaur good, please do. I enjoyed your builds on that game. Always live ye content my friend
From what I’ve seen it’s not really a reboot since it’s the exact same as it has been, just more solo friendly.
The Steam numbers the other day weren’t even enough to fill a single server.
Thank you for this very interesting survey and analysis. On the other hand, a Starfield MMO is not for me.
Zos does the right way of planning. Hope bethesda learns from that, otherwise ES 6 is gonna be a shitshow.
I'm already expecting it to be a shit show. They no longer know how to make games. I doubt they even have any devs remaining from skyrim, and everyone there has been taught and directed to mainly chase cash grabs. As the biggest focus bethesda has done in the last 15 years were ESO and Fallout 76. Both were rushed releases, have micro transactions up the ying yang, and lack a lot of what makes them special as a developer.
I remember when the Star wars MMO rumors were going around... Think of the amazing story of SWTOR, with the combat and patch cadence of ESO
The Star Wars brand is very tainted now for issues outside of MMOs.
@@bradandrews777 SWTOR (outside of very little being added to it) is very beloved. Star Wars Galaxy is still being played a ton on private servers.
SWTOR was trash, think more like SWG
@@fffx2 was... In past tense. Maybe it just wasn't your style, which is ok
Uh nah, ESO combat is pretty jank. It's below average. I hope they create a new engine or at least use a newer engine for whatever their making.
No way did I just waste 26 minutes for a starfield plug… I’m moving on from Bethesda I’ve supported enough for 5+ years with just eso🤦🏻
What about all New World News?? Are we doing a video on it?
New World is old world. I played 250+ hrs near launch and the new thing just makes it more solo friendly. It’s still the same game it’s been for years.
Nothing is better or will ever be better than ESO.
I heard it's going to be a star wars mmo
Nope. One vote against ever getting involved with another live service from Bethesda or Zenimax. Not everyone will vote this way, but there are a LOT that will never engage with them again. Way WAAY WAAAYYY too MTX-happy of a studio.
Stanfield sucked.
If their next game is a Starfield MMO, I think they're in trouble. Starfield just didn't compete; the engine looks tired and dated, and their storytelling hasn't kept pace with so many great titles on the market. Their previous MMOs were able to build off of the excitement of those franchises.
agreed the single player game engine used for Starfield is limited. The zenimax engine for ESO is entirely different than Skyrim engine. So a starfield MMO would not need to be held back by a single player engine used in Starfield proper. Thankfully. I like the ESO controller gameplay way better than Skyrims UI and controller limitations.
Their engine is tired and dated but can hold more objects than ue5? Starfield might not have hit with you but it hit with a lot of people who like the sandbox Bethesda makes. I don't think they're making a Starfield mmo because this was supposed to be their own IP.
@@Tport712 I mean, when I look at the steam charts, Starfield has about 1/3 the concurrent players as Skyrim at the moment and 1/2 as many concurrent players as No Man's Sky. Skyrim is an 11 year old game, and I remember when ESO launched, people who didn't like Skyrim but loved Morrowind and Oblivion, were excited about hoping back into those environs with ESO. I just don't think there is enough excitement surrounding Starfield for there to be a profitable MMO made with this IP.
@@kestrik Skyrim is also the evolution of their main IP that has had 11 years of mods to apply to it. You can do pretty much anything with Skyrim. Starfield is a brand new IP that is not sitting well with every Bethesda fan that is for sure, but again there are still plenty of people that love the sand box. Ive been playing the best Star Wars RPG because of this game and the mod creators that are continuously adding new things to the game. Saying the game is not popular is not the same as saying the game is technically well made. There are a few RUclipsrs that have shown off the weird things that you can do in this engine as opposed to other engines and it is no slouch.
@@Tport712 I mean, I'm not trying to be hater. I just have serious doubts at this point. Best of luck to them.
Do I have to sub to get a farken craft bag...? Hard pass.
My bet is Mad Max Online!
I sincerely hope you're wrong and it isn't a Starfield mmo. Even though I haven't played it, what I've seen and heard about the game has not made me want to go out and buy it. Earlier today I was watching a video going over the entire games main story with gameplay included. The world is empty and the physics are completely ridiculous having current day type weapons able to work on the moon. Count me our if it's a Starfield mmo!
If it is Starfield, they need to narrow the scope. Narrow it down to 2 or 3 solar systems to begin with. They can always expand the universe later. We care more about quality than size. Also, have a decent and non-repetitive storyline. I stopped playing Starfield because it became too repetitive and boring. Allow us to explore on unique and beautiful planets that are not filled with boring open space. And lastly…intelligent aliens…have alien races we can communicate with. The alien life in the current Starfield…boring.
I hope it isn't Starfield
13:44 I hope it's NOT starfield
Secret mmo sounds like a dead game lol
Nice.
Starfield? ugh
I hope to god it's not Starfield Online, the worldbuilding in that game is shallow, stupid and boring
maybe it'll be an actual Fallout MMO and not the trash that is 76
I'd love to be wrong, but... Basically, the game will be DEI Western trash with tons of microtransactions lol. Watch it be Starfield Online. 🤣🤣
WOuld love go back to ESO, I use to play on Ps4 but I've since made the switch to PC and unfortunately ESO isn't cross save. Until they can do cross-save, I wont be returning to the game. 6k hours, over $6k USD It's not worth it for me to start over again.
That’s due to storefront. It’s not just an issue of cross save. Since it hasn’t happened yet it likely never will due to contracts.
I hear you. I was in the same situation but I said screw it and switched to pc. For me im experiencing the game all over again
6k usd? bro?... do a charity please,dont give your money to greedy companies, spend the minimum
@@konkats-tg7pf I was addicted to building in my houses. I built aquariums for people for mats and gold.
Starfield Online. womp womp