Well there is a rpg game that is celebrating its 50th anniversary, Dungeons and Dragons, which Everquest took a lot of inspiration from (Wotc development played EQ and it inspired the 3rd edtion of the game, this is what I have heard at least). Seeing how Hasbro are going more digital, and that their MMORPG aren't that good to be honest, and the massive amount that play and knows the different "settings" with its own lore, made right, I think it might have the potential to be the new king 👑 on the block. Don't take me wrong, I so want a new EQ3 in Unreal engine 5 ❤, I think the 80% familiar is that they will use bits from both EQ and EQ2, then see what they can improve with 20% of the game being new. 30$ million is probably on the low end, but I can see them making EQ3 with perhaps around 50 million $, depending on investment, might be even more. The problem I think they have is how do we make both EQ and EQ2 players and new players love our game, that's why they are in ideation phase until probably at the end of first quarter of 2025 (they need to be finishing the new expansions and get more people hired, depending on what comes out of the ideation phase, aka what kind of EQ3 game are we making). They don't want to do the same error as they did with EQ2, splitting up the player base and people either going back to EQ, quit playing both EQ and EQ2 entirely, and lots of players jumping ship to WoW again, which happened back in 2004/2005. Just my thoughts, let's hope that by the end of 2028 we will be playing EQ3 (4th quarter release anyone? 😅👍 ❤️). They own the IP, and it's a very known game, their most valuable, it might be that they allocate even more funds to it. Making these kind of games aren't easy, but it's probably the game that can make them and investors the most money, this game almost had 700k subs in 2000, I think that if they can get around 500k subs consistent or above, it will make more money than any of their other games. This that EQ has tons of lore and "zones", you name it, they have everything to make a very successful MMO, done right, but that's the hard part 😊👍 ❤️. See you all in Norrath.....
hope there is really another EQ... I was an original EQ player from 99 and moved to EQ2 when it launched... what they did to EQ2 should have been criminal. I don't know if there would be a place for 32 person raids like EQ2 anymore, much less the 64 person ones from the original. It seems much harder to get that many people all pulling in the same direction in newer mmogs now days. Guess we can hope for a return of the golden era of mmogs. I do anyway... the closest I have found is Eve online but the learning curve for that game is brutal and not for the faint of heart.
I have been preparing myself for the reality that I will never enjoy a new MMO again. I think 1999 - 2010 was peak MMORPG. We are now living in a world so driven by greed that a good game will never survive a big studio's meddling. Small passion projects like M&M and Pantheon might be good but they always stand the very real chance of never being "released". Even games that check most of the MMO boxes can still fail if not enough people are actively playing (looking at you Embers and maybe Project Gorgon).
Honestly its entirely possible. Our best hopes are essentially a double AA MMO which would be less than the first games we played for the most part unless there is a course correction which I don't forsee from big companies that are public and cling to fiduciary responsibility to shove bad monetization into what could be half-decent games. I still wonder what would have happened with Vanguard if it hadn't been rushed out the door.
I think the bigger issue is using these games as an investment vehicles that are more profitable staying in development. Unfortunately modern monetization doesn't mesh well with rpg reward based gameplay loops, or the genre would be thriving.
it'll probably be some awful mobile game instead of an MMO though, with the EQ title. Current ownership crew certainly can not be trusted to do anything but chase the hype money train, rather than create something faithful to the IP. They've already shown this in their past, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
At this point I'd just be happy with face lifted EQ. Reboot the game with updated graphics and a modern UI and resolution/framerate support. launch fresh servers and progress through the entire catalogue with no krono and zero boxing or RMT allowed and enforced. If you can't make EQ3 happen of course.
No boxing a lot of people would not play. I say make 4 boxing servers the the rest none boxing. Kronos I don't mind. Get rid of station store and mercenaries. They also need to stick to new expansion every 12 to 18 months.
@@KwanX1 game is pretty much unplayable unless you box but boxing is such a hassle the game should have added a pawn system like dragons dogma and let you have a group of AI. No, EQ3 needs to be significantly more solo friendly if it wants to have even a chance.
It has worked out well enough for Classic WoW. I think for EQ it would have to be more than just a minor facelift. You would need some serious QoL improvements and modernization of some mechanics. Nobody who played in 1999 has the same kind of time or enough friends with free time to make it work otherwise.
They need to do what World of Warcraft did and make sure that EQ3 can run computers that are 5 years older than whatever their launch date turns out to be.
Some of the ideas were fantastic, voxels and more importantly AI controlled groups of NPCs rather than just scripted behaviour. I absolutely hated the WOW cartoon look.
There is already a LotR MMO call Lord of the Rings Online thats been around for literally years. Always a good thing to hear the 3 granddaddys of MMO. EQ, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online mentioned.
For Evercrack, I would do EQ 1.5, IE, same maps and character classes, and revamp the story lines. THEN work on EQ Whatever, with new classes, combat, progression systems, etc. But the same map/engine as 1.5.
Given the current state of things, I'm NOT looking forward to a new LOTR MMO. If it's Amazon, you just know they'll pull a Disney "Star Wars" and make it a bastardization of the IP.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *🎮 Overview of upcoming MMOs, including Asher Creation, Pantheon, and Monsters in Memories.* 00:13 *🛠️ Insight into ongoing developments for Ghostcrawler's Ghost and Raph Coster's Stars.* 00:27 *🌍 Exploration of MMOs set in the Warhammer Universe and the Shire from LOTR.* 00:40 *🤔 Discussion on uncertainty about whether certain high-profile IPs will develop into MMOs.* 00:55 *🏰 Introduction to the Warhammer MMO, likely set in the Warhammer 40K universe.* 01:09 *🔫 Confirmation that the Warhammer MMO will probably focus on the 40K setting due to market saturation in fantasy MMOs.* 01:24 *📉 Warhammer Fantasy MMO market is saturated, making Warhammer 40K a more viable choice.* 02:03 *📚 Warhammer 40K's extensive lore provides a strong foundation for the MMO.* 03:13 *💰 NetEase publishing the Warhammer MMO raises concerns about monetization practices.* 03:26 *🛠️ Development on Unreal Engine 5 with a team expanding from 45 to 100 members.* 03:39 *🛡️ The Warhammer MMO is expected to have minimal PvP, focusing more on PvE experiences.* 04:31 *📈 Warhammer 40K's built-in audience could make the MMO highly successful if executed well.* 07:27 *⚠️ Criticism of Amazon Game Studios' handling of the new Lord of the Rings MMO due to corporate priorities.* 08:08 *🏆 Amazon's collaboration with Embracer Group on the LOTR MMO amidst existing beloved titles like Lord of the Rings Online.* 12:04 *🌌 Introduction to Light No Fire, a fantasy MMO resembling No Man's Sky, with uncertain MMO classification.* 15:04 *🐉 Anticipation for EverQuest 3, though details remain unclear with plans to start ideation in 2025.* 19:05 *🔮 EG7's focus on EverQuest as their most valuable IP, with potential plans for new MMOs leveraging the franchise's legacy.* Made with HARPA AI
I'd love a new LOTR MMO, but the fact big developers like Amazon and others would create a game where servers could be filled with pink bearded dwarf females, and Wood Elf men with breasts and twirking dance emotes, means that I would have no desire to play it. I don't think any gamers or fans of LOTR or Tolken would want a LOTR game made for "Modern Audiences" rather than being true to the lore.
I have *really* enjoyed EverQuest and EverQuest 2, even ended up going back to them again recently for the nostalgia. I am seriously hoping and praying that they do the content right. I still remember watching my old man playing EQ1 when it first came out and for the time it was made it, it felt fairly ambitious. EQ 2 definitely improved on some things but yeah also took a pretty bad knock with some the choices made too. I hope the devs look back and see what the fans liked, change what wasn't liked, and give something that tops what has come before.
EverQuest 3, 2029 for the 30th anniversary. - Lean on the AI ideas of EQN. - Chill out on the deformable terrain and multiclassing. - Really commit to new gods/history if doing that. Find a writer who's inspired by the EQ1 race lineup or something. They deserve better than World of Anagrams and Legally Distinct Misspellings. (Fite me 1v1.) - But either way, seriously target EQ1 vibes. - Bring back distinct homelands.
@@Ziplock9000 MUD roots I always want to say, Brad McQuaid was really open about that and I think it encapsulated well what MMORPGs have lost both on the MMO and RPG sides.
Just put LOTRO on a new engine -> Thats all the newer LOTRO players complain about "meeh shitty graphics".....but meanwhile the game looks absolutely stunning at some places!
EQOA was my wife and I's first MMO. I wish it hadn't been sunset. Still friends with someone we played pretty much every day with in game. We moved on to EQ2 for close to a decade. Playing ESO now.
I'd really like to see a "pre-legendary" Everquest (i.e. taking place during the many various historical events of lore). Imagine being part of the lore being created rather than arriving on a new continent and discovering the lore secondhand.
WH40K has a lot of great games already - please, please do NOT fark it up by putting out a cash-grab, loot-box/MTX/P2W/cash shop infested warp-spew! Same with Amazon and LoTR - leave it alone, you have proven to be entirely incompetent and/or intentionally disrespectful & destructive towards every IP you've touched. And we already have LOTRO, which is a great mmo. Also, CoH (now officially on Homecoming), is so much better than that console crap DCUO, that they aren't even in the same ballpark! That is all.
@@af6756 Won't happen. No matter how much people want that, the audience doesn't, and on top of this ya'll are so fragmented that you won't stay. Then you get toxic and the other pvpers start to leave.
Yep, developing PvP is a time waste. The likeliness that you do PvP absolutely right from the beginning is very low and you have to do it right to engage PvPers. If you fail to succeed in that they just leave. PvEers are usually more chill. Also, at least from my German/European perspective, the number of PvP players are much lower than PvE players.
@@Hamurator PVP devs are chasing the Fortnite / Call of duty crowd. 2 problems they run into: that crowd isn’t into MMOs and any game that devoted to PVP completely shuns the PVE crowd. They try to find a middle ground and alienate everyone.
Take Everquest 1's depth of lore and quests, use Everquest 2's graphics, and you have EQ3. This way, everyone gets to keep all the characters they spent literal decades on and fell deeply in love with, while making the world more beautiful and enthralling in the process. Because if the future of EQ live servers is Laurion's Song levels of shallow and ugly, then TLPs are all they're gonna do.
0:49 I miss the days when you learned about MMOs (or games in general) by PLAYING IT, not "needing" to know about it prior to it even releasing P.S, yes I feel old
Please give us an EQ3 that is a modernized EQOA. So much MMO/PC competition, this would differentiate it. EQOA was way before its time, it would do numbers now
I played EQ 1 when it came out up to about Gates of Discord... then I went to EQ2 and played off and on for some years after. I remember for ever that EQ Next was going to be a thing and I remember seeing demos where they were excited about being able to destroy environments, and having unique player built servers. My guess is that is still sitting on a shelf somewhere and may be a lot easier to make these days with UE 5 maybe? If I were the devs I would maybe bounce some ideas off of Larian studios to maybe position EQ3 as somehow a mix of BG 3 and EQ 1 - where you could have some really unique solo quest play that transitions into into more group and raid stuff at higher level.
@@appdevman I really wanted to like Warhammer Online, but I couldn't ever find anything beyond a Zergfest. I wish my experience had been different, but after several hundred hours, I couldn't do it anymore.
Ok guys. Prepare to like this so we can actually have this idea seen by people who can make it happen. We need a partnership between FromSoftware and Daybreak Games to take the decades of EQ lore and put it into the Elden Rings format. Those of us who played EQ know you only needed a few buddies to experience the lore with, ER has that system. And original EQ was hard. Dying punished us, and we loved it. They could work together on this and basically have the framework of dlc (EQ patches) be implemented into that world for the next 20 years. It would be amazing for EQ fans, FromSoftware fans, Souls fans. You could even throw in a theatrical(easy mode) for the casual player to experience the vast lore of Norrath.
Don't you dare suggest an EQ game with survival mechanics......... don't you dare 😑😑 I despise survival mechanics, like who the fuck came up with this shit? "Hey let's take all the things about real life that make it a pain in the ass and put them in video games that people use as an escape from the drudgery and monotony of real life!"... yeah brilliant idea! But WTF do I know plenty of idiots line up to play these games, but FFS keep that shit far far away from the EQ franchise, it's not wanted nor needed.
EQ had the best crafting minigame so far. Vanguard had the best fishing minigame and faction system. Please combine these in a ESO-like MMO and I'd be happy for a long, long time.
When I hear the eq music starting in the video, I saluted until it ended haha. Your love for eq is something I relate to and really hope they come up with something good. In the last year i went back to eq1, and made a new 4 boxing crew and took them to lvl 125. I had such a blast leveling and exploring all the areas I missed or hadn’t been to Much and whatnot. It was challenging and rewarding and so fun, especially like level 95-120 imo. When I got to the end game though, even tho I was still in my guild The Silent Minority and raided, I got bored and went back to WoW. It still is though, in my opinion, the greatest MMO that has ever existed, and nothing I’ve played captures the feelings u get running around norrath.
After the EQN fiasco and them yanking Landmark out from under me, I've learned to hope for the best but expect the worst from Darkpaw. I'm not going to get my hopes up for a new MMO but would be extremely happy if it did happen. Yes i'm still bitter about Landmark being shut down, even more so than EQ Next being cancelled.
The idea that D&D is profitable because of the success of BG3 is flawed. It was successful because of the developer. That developer has stated it will no longer work under Hasbro, and future games will go to developers who bend the knee to the all of the absurdities Larian Studios wanted nothing to do with. We will see utterly crap D&D games that bomb.
I get where you're coming from and I'm not here to defend Hasbro or WOTC as I have huge problems with both, but Larian has been clear they had a great working relationship with WOTC and they just wanted to work on their own IP. D&D games, when done well can be great because the IP lends itself to games. They were successful before BG3 and I'm sure they will be after, but we'll also get a ton of slop. Lots of games that just straight up suck because thats what big corps do with IP: substandard games with the IP attached. Mobile pay 2 win...etc. Its stilly long term but it does happen, Game of Thrones is probably one of the biggest examples.
I'm a rabid EQ2 fan and no other MMO ever caught my attention since I quit EQ2 live (2016) and only been playing TLE from time to time. I never cared about EQN, didn't pre-order it, never liked anything about it. Personally I wouldn't mind EQ3 being EQ1 sequel 'done right' whatever that means for EQ1 fans, sounds good to me.
I tried ESO, GW2 and archeage which could have been the greatest mmorpg ever made if they didn't p2w it to death and finished it off with fresh start servers.
I would like an EQ that is super lore heavy. Gods making regular appearances and...Well I guess I need to think this through a little more.. But Just heavy heavy lore. That was always one of my favorite things about the game.
I need to get back into some RoR. I'm one of the weird ones who liked the PQs and Scenarios (battlegrounds) more than the open world RvR but sieging was always fun.
Champions of Norrath was peak multiplayer gaming back in the day. 4 of your friends all playing on the ps2 with the multi tap. Staying up all night. Good times!
Love your content Redbeard! Totally agree with you on the skepticism on the LotR MMO being up in the air. Pumped about anything Warhammer 40k MMO and EQ3 if & when it may ever come out!
As a super sweaty EQ 1 player, that has been on most of the TLPs as they release, I can only hope and pray that they release EQ3 before I am geriatric. Not that this will stop me of course, no. I will slap on those adult diapers and make sure to get a spill-safe keyboard. Winning.
Star Wars galaxies is to this day my ultimate favorite. The memories I have are my most fond of gaming. Also I absolutely loved warhammer online, hard to beat pvp and lore, I hope they bring a new version
I WANT the Amazon LOTR mmo to be great. I really hope new world is teaching them a lot about making games, and mmo’s and they take all that to LOTR and make an amazing game. 🤞🤞
I'm watching this from 3pm - 3.26pm GMT (I had to pause to go for a coffee) if that helps. Whilst I never played EQ1 and onlyplayed a little of EQ2 as I was well into WoW by the time a freind showed me (Having started out my MMO career on Silk Road followed by Rubies of Eventide) but I remember watching all the stuff for EQ Next with great interest and being sad when it vanished so I'm certainly interested in EQ3.
I would like a more classic mmo experience like Rubies of Eventide meets DAOC really done with Themeparks with mailboxes. EQ3 likely will be a heavy raid grind and thats good for that kind of player but some of us remember pre carebear games and just a little of that back would be great.
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Lets pick a few mmos and make a clan and play. I havent played a single mmo in years. All of your subs, LETS GOOO! 😁
I haven't gotten my hopes up about EQ in 20 years... Everquest doesn't need to be reinvented, it needs to be re-released in, UE5 with updated spell visuals and more of an action combat style. Polish it with some group/raid finders and some channels(not instances) to hop between and you don't need to do anything. EQ already has the lore and depth. Re-release the old game remastered with some modern conveniences and you already have a cash cow. The only reason I don't play it still is because of the combat and graphics. There was not, nor has been another game with the scale and lore of EQ. Period. PS - I love seeing all the comments about EQ. Its obviously the most cherish IP in gaming history :)
We are definitely in dire need of a good (I stress, good) Sci-Fi MMO, so I'm hopeful for a 40k MMO. I appreciate the Star Trek Online mention. It's old and janky as hell but if you like the Star Trek universe it is *fantastic* for more Star Trek stories. It has a ton of great content, all for free, with no real need to use the cash shop.
I was a beta tester for warhammer online right before acquired mythic once EA got in beta was shut dowen for about a year and when it came back Warhammer online was a different game
I expect that Light No Fire will be have one gigantic server cluster so it counts for me as an MMO. And it has my highest hopes as Hello Games knows how to procedurally create landscapes and doesn't need to craft much by hand - which I see as a huge problem for the other projects especially the 40k MMO for which everyone does expect some kind of space travelling and exploring more than one planet.
Everquest as an IP is not in a good state atm for sustainability. DPG has made the unofficial announcement that this Dec will be the last live expansion and they are cutting back new content drastically and will rely on TLP for revenue to support through the next ~half decade of EQ3 development. Few things - This doesnt mean no new live content but more along lines of a new zone here and there and a new raid or mission here and there in monthly patches. And if they do what they are promising with decembers expansion it will be one of the biggest content expansions in a while and have some more lasting appeal. So why are they doing this? Teek was the single most successful TLP server they've ever done, more than half the subscribed accounts online at any given time are on that one server. So DPG is seeing it as the flip in what supplements what. It used to be TLPs supplemented live, a little extra cash to keep live going, but as it stands at surface level in 2024, live is only supplementing TLP. So why is this not the best? Teek is only successful for 1 reason. Last decembers expansion, Laurion's Song was the single worst expansion ever released. it was an unmitigated disaster. There's no exaggerating, there's no 'ohh well there was this, or that,' - it was the most unbalanced and smallest content expansion by miles, a true embarrassment for any other studio, not even the little like ldon/ykesha half expansions were as small. So Teek is comprised of a VAST majority of live players holding out for December. So what DPG has done is give up dollars for shiny dimes. Cause come december if the new expansion isnt a stellar never before seen home run of content that player base isnt going to stick around another 10+ months farting around/waiting and passing time on May's new TLP when there is no other new expansion on the horizon. They stated in may they're about 80k monthly subs, at this pace they'll be lucky if they have half that next year in Sep. They are not going to have the money to fund a new MMORPG and no ones investing from the outside in MMORPGs. It's not happening =/ I wish I was wrong, but i'm just not. =/
@@Ziplock9000 of course they cant have 3 games fighting for the same audience, but thats in 5 years, absolute best case scenario. But what happens in the next half decade? They've put into motion a plan that could wipe EQs revenue in half by end of next year, and you can see from the EG7 buyout a few years back that EQ is their main breadwinner. So where does the funding for EQ3 come from with EQ having the rug ripped out from under it.
My favorite MMO of all time is Ultima Online. I played that day 1 for years. I would love a new updated game from that world, or if there is I have never heard of it.
Love how you mentioned the Project 1999/Quarm and RoR as those were my fav mmos along with DAoC! There hasn’t been a comparable RvR game like DAoC that I’m aware of?
I honestly was taken aback when you mentioned Star Citizen. Thought I had died and gone to heaven. Twelve years ago. Still trying to mend my broken heart. Better yet, prom date. LoL Anyway, great vid.
Champions of Norrath 1 & 2 should be remastered and released on PC with multiplayer, would be a insta-buy for a lot of people. Good way to get the brand back on the map to prepare for EQ3.
I would love❤ it if Champions of Norrath was ported to Xbox & Playstation. They don't need to remaster or remake it, just make it playable on modern consoles. 🎉
I’m sure you had the same wake up call seeing Succulents and thinking they were funny one minute, only to be one shotted by them the next! “SOW for corpse run please!”
I've played them all, but EQ by far. In this video I heard that music and I was back in early 2000 when I first played hearing it on the launch screen. Waiting to get my butt kicked as I went one on one vs a single Skeleton or perhaps a fire beatle and his friends in the Nektulos Forest hoping to make it back to where the guards might, perhaps save me from my newbie mistake.
Warhammer Online at its core was a perfect pvp mmo. It just needed more time to work itself out.. If they took that and rebuilt it I'd play that 100%.. Still the best pvp mmorpg to this day, makes Gw2/WoWs pvp look like a total carebare land.
Really hope we see a solid everquest game again. The lore and world of norrath just isn't matched elsewhere.
Indeed as long as they don't keep going along the max/min dungeon slasher route EQ2 has been going down since SoF xpac.
Well there is a rpg game that is celebrating its 50th anniversary, Dungeons and Dragons, which Everquest took a lot of inspiration from (Wotc development played EQ and it inspired the 3rd edtion of the game, this is what I have heard at least).
Seeing how Hasbro are going more digital, and that their MMORPG aren't that good to be honest, and the massive amount that play and knows the different "settings" with its own lore, made right, I think it might have the potential to be the new king 👑 on the block.
Don't take me wrong, I so want a new EQ3 in Unreal engine 5 ❤, I think the 80% familiar is that they will use bits from both EQ and EQ2, then see what they can improve with 20% of the game being new.
30$ million is probably on the low end, but I can see them making EQ3 with perhaps around 50 million $, depending on investment, might be even more.
The problem I think they have is how do we make both EQ and EQ2 players and new players love our game, that's why they are in ideation phase until probably at the end of first quarter of 2025 (they need to be finishing the new expansions and get more people hired, depending on what comes out of the ideation phase, aka what kind of EQ3 game are we making).
They don't want to do the same error as they did with EQ2, splitting up the player base and people either going back to EQ, quit playing both EQ and EQ2 entirely, and lots of players jumping ship to WoW again, which happened back in 2004/2005.
Just my thoughts, let's hope that by the end of 2028 we will be playing EQ3 (4th quarter release anyone? 😅👍 ❤️).
They own the IP, and it's a very known game, their most valuable, it might be that they allocate even more funds to it.
Making these kind of games aren't easy, but it's probably the game that can make them and investors the most money, this game almost had 700k subs in 2000, I think that if they can get around 500k subs consistent or above, it will make more money than any of their other games.
This that EQ has tons of lore and "zones", you name it, they have everything to make a very successful MMO, done right, but that's the hard part 😊👍 ❤️.
See you all in Norrath.....
Amen… preach it!
I was on Feran’s Hope back on EQOA. God I miss that game.
hope there is really another EQ... I was an original EQ player from 99 and moved to EQ2 when it launched... what they did to EQ2 should have been criminal. I don't know if there would be a place for 32 person raids like EQ2 anymore, much less the 64 person ones from the original. It seems much harder to get that many people all pulling in the same direction in newer mmogs now days. Guess we can hope for a return of the golden era of mmogs. I do anyway... the closest I have found is Eve online but the learning curve for that game is brutal and not for the faint of heart.
I have been preparing myself for the reality that I will never enjoy a new MMO again. I think 1999 - 2010 was peak MMORPG. We are now living in a world so driven by greed that a good game will never survive a big studio's meddling. Small passion projects like M&M and Pantheon might be good but they always stand the very real chance of never being "released". Even games that check most of the MMO boxes can still fail if not enough people are actively playing (looking at you Embers and maybe Project Gorgon).
Honestly its entirely possible. Our best hopes are essentially a double AA MMO which would be less than the first games we played for the most part unless there is a course correction which I don't forsee from big companies that are public and cling to fiduciary responsibility to shove bad monetization into what could be half-decent games.
I still wonder what would have happened with Vanguard if it hadn't been rushed out the door.
I think Star Wars Galaxies before the new engine was the best MMO ever.
I think the bigger issue is using these games as an investment vehicles that are more profitable staying in development.
Unfortunately modern monetization doesn't mesh well with rpg reward based gameplay loops, or the genre would be thriving.
@@adjacent-smith passion > profit
@@zepho100 >playerbase
I like how every time when it's about EQ, he plays EQ theme ✨
I automaticly smile when I hear that Theme. 😂
Because it's awesome and iconic.
and it's the old school MIDI version too!
Best theme in existence
@testdep I was working listening to this and the theme hit and my arms got chills.
I bought into Next and was so upset it went away.
so excited for EQ3, I remember how blueballed we got with EQnext.
Imagine the people who paid $1000 for landmark lol
I still miss landmark.
it'll probably be some awful mobile game instead of an MMO though, with the EQ title. Current ownership crew certainly can not be trusted to do anything but chase the hype money train, rather than create something faithful to the IP. They've already shown this in their past, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
@@zarroth should have sold it to Steven when he had the chance.
@@williamlaprarie3007Was Landmark the one with 🤯 housing?
I keep hoping they release the game again. I never got to play it.
At this point I'd just be happy with face lifted EQ. Reboot the game with updated graphics and a modern UI and resolution/framerate support. launch fresh servers and progress through the entire catalogue with no krono and zero boxing or RMT allowed and enforced. If you can't make EQ3 happen of course.
I installed it a few months ago thinking maybe i could…nope couldn’t do it
No boxing a lot of people would not play. I say make 4 boxing servers the the rest none boxing. Kronos I don't mind. Get rid of station store and mercenaries. They also need to stick to new expansion every 12 to 18 months.
@@KwanX1 game is pretty much unplayable unless you box but boxing is such a hassle the game should have added a pawn system like dragons dogma and let you have a group of AI. No, EQ3 needs to be significantly more solo friendly if it wants to have even a chance.
Sub only, fuck off with all other monetization strategies!
It has worked out well enough for Classic WoW. I think for EQ it would have to be more than just a minor facelift. You would need some serious QoL improvements and modernization of some mechanics. Nobody who played in 1999 has the same kind of time or enough friends with free time to make it work otherwise.
They need to do what World of Warcraft did and make sure that EQ3 can run computers that are 5 years older than whatever their launch date turns out to be.
It's so hard top be excited for new mmos until they are actually out and known to be good.
Give me EverQuest Next. This was the project with most potential.
I hated that fisher-price aesthetic
I kind of liked the look, myself, and I feel like it still holds up quality-wise a decade later.
If you like eq go Check out monster and memories
Some of the ideas were fantastic, voxels and more importantly AI controlled groups of NPCs rather than just scripted behaviour. I absolutely hated the WOW cartoon look.
@@Ziplock9000 the graphic style was even worse than WoW - it was literally Disney
...I heard the EQ music across the room and I froze as chills traveled throughout my spine..
I know my audience 😉
I remember loading EQ for the first time in my AMD K6-500 and watching that for the first time😂❤
We absolutely need an eq3 mmorpg that can be played by all player types.
Mate...that footage of running around in Everfrost near the ice river is causing major nostalgia pangs!
There is already a LotR MMO call Lord of the Rings Online thats been around for literally years. Always a good thing to hear the 3 granddaddys of MMO. EQ, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online mentioned.
For Evercrack, I would do EQ 1.5, IE, same maps and character classes, and revamp the story lines. THEN work on EQ Whatever, with new classes, combat, progression systems, etc. But the same map/engine as 1.5.
One day.. one day. The game I'm making won't be *just* a pipe dream. And we will all be playing it. (Mix of EQ1, Minecraft, and Daggerfall)
Really like LOTRO. The team behind that OG MMO stays true to the lore, the world is also rich, and they pay homage to the legend himself… Tolkien!!
Given the current state of things, I'm NOT looking forward to a new LOTR MMO. If it's Amazon, you just know they'll pull a Disney "Star Wars" and make it a bastardization of the IP.
the embracer group/amazon whisper part was gold man keep up the good work
Cheers! Thank you for taking the time to say so.
An updated Star Wars Galaxies or modern version of Ultima Online would be an absolute dream come true!
So happy MnM and Pantheon exist so I don't have to hold my breath for an EQ3. Not that I wouldn't play that too... probably ... um ...
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00 *🎮 Overview of upcoming MMOs, including Asher Creation, Pantheon, and Monsters in Memories.*
00:13 *🛠️ Insight into ongoing developments for Ghostcrawler's Ghost and Raph Coster's Stars.*
00:27 *🌍 Exploration of MMOs set in the Warhammer Universe and the Shire from LOTR.*
00:40 *🤔 Discussion on uncertainty about whether certain high-profile IPs will develop into MMOs.*
00:55 *🏰 Introduction to the Warhammer MMO, likely set in the Warhammer 40K universe.*
01:09 *🔫 Confirmation that the Warhammer MMO will probably focus on the 40K setting due to market saturation in fantasy MMOs.*
01:24 *📉 Warhammer Fantasy MMO market is saturated, making Warhammer 40K a more viable choice.*
02:03 *📚 Warhammer 40K's extensive lore provides a strong foundation for the MMO.*
03:13 *💰 NetEase publishing the Warhammer MMO raises concerns about monetization practices.*
03:26 *🛠️ Development on Unreal Engine 5 with a team expanding from 45 to 100 members.*
03:39 *🛡️ The Warhammer MMO is expected to have minimal PvP, focusing more on PvE experiences.*
04:31 *📈 Warhammer 40K's built-in audience could make the MMO highly successful if executed well.*
07:27 *⚠️ Criticism of Amazon Game Studios' handling of the new Lord of the Rings MMO due to corporate priorities.*
08:08 *🏆 Amazon's collaboration with Embracer Group on the LOTR MMO amidst existing beloved titles like Lord of the Rings Online.*
12:04 *🌌 Introduction to Light No Fire, a fantasy MMO resembling No Man's Sky, with uncertain MMO classification.*
15:04 *🐉 Anticipation for EverQuest 3, though details remain unclear with plans to start ideation in 2025.*
19:05 *🔮 EG7's focus on EverQuest as their most valuable IP, with potential plans for new MMOs leveraging the franchise's legacy.*
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I'd love a new LOTR MMO, but the fact big developers like Amazon and others would create a game where servers could be filled with pink bearded dwarf females, and Wood Elf men with breasts and twirking dance emotes, means that I would have no desire to play it. I don't think any gamers or fans of LOTR or Tolken would want a LOTR game made for "Modern Audiences" rather than being true to the lore.
I have *really* enjoyed EverQuest and EverQuest 2, even ended up going back to them again recently for the nostalgia. I am seriously hoping and praying that they do the content right. I still remember watching my old man playing EQ1 when it first came out and for the time it was made it, it felt fairly ambitious. EQ 2 definitely improved on some things but yeah also took a pretty bad knock with some the choices made too. I hope the devs look back and see what the fans liked, change what wasn't liked, and give something that tops what has come before.
EverQuest 3, 2029 for the 30th anniversary.
- Lean on the AI ideas of EQN.
- Chill out on the deformable terrain and multiclassing.
- Really commit to new gods/history if doing that. Find a writer who's inspired by the EQ1 race lineup or something. They deserve better than World of Anagrams and Legally Distinct Misspellings. (Fite me 1v1.)
- But either way, seriously target EQ1 vibes.
- Bring back distinct homelands.
Move close to cRPG roots rather than max/min aRPG route EQ2 went.
@@Ziplock9000 MUD roots I always want to say, Brad McQuaid was really open about that and I think it encapsulated well what MMORPGs have lost both on the MMO and RPG sides.
Sorry bro the crowd is too old. Nobody's going to connect with EQ
Warhammer 40k MMO would be awesome
Remember eternal crusade?
No it won’t it’ll be a soulless husk of what you know warhammer to be, familiar names and nothing else.
GW will only require you to rebuy the game every two years, and then randomly discontinue your characters.
@@billm9775 Ah, yes LOL
@@flankman9385 💀
Just put LOTRO on a new engine -> Thats all the newer LOTRO players complain about "meeh shitty graphics".....but meanwhile the game looks absolutely stunning at some places!
EQOA was my wife and I's first MMO. I wish it hadn't been sunset. Still friends with someone we played pretty much every day with in game. We moved on to EQ2 for close to a decade. Playing ESO now.
I was on Feran’s Hope on EQOA. 12 year old that scammed people lol
Describing Netease as a "mixed bag" doesn't even begin...
hearing that midi music actually makes me tear up a bit. that game had a profound effect on my life.
Light No Fire has potential to be so neat. Really wish they'd give us a bit more info lol
I'd really like to see a "pre-legendary" Everquest (i.e. taking place during the many various historical events of lore). Imagine being part of the lore being created rather than arriving on a new continent and discovering the lore secondhand.
Everquest would be great. They also own the IP for Vanguard:SOH which Id like to see even more than EQ if that were possible.
Thank you, Flynn, for not telling us to like and subscribe.
Playing EQ again in a way that feels like when I was a teen would be a wonderful gift as I slowly turn into an old man
WH40K has a lot of great games already - please, please do NOT fark it up by putting out a cash-grab, loot-box/MTX/P2W/cash shop infested warp-spew!
Same with Amazon and LoTR - leave it alone, you have proven to be entirely incompetent and/or intentionally disrespectful & destructive towards every IP you've touched. And we already have LOTRO, which is a great mmo. Also, CoH (now officially on Homecoming), is so much better than that console crap DCUO, that they aren't even in the same ballpark! That is all.
When Everquest Next was cancelled, I wrote off the series. Pantheon is likely the Vanguard/EQ successor we're looking for.
OMG, a mmo dev that isn’t all in on PVP? Miracle of miracles !
@@charlesminckler2978 I so wish at least one single decent PVP focused MMORPG would come into existence 😔. It's always just an afterthought.
@@af6756 Eve Online
@@af6756 Won't happen. No matter how much people want that, the audience doesn't, and on top of this ya'll are so fragmented that you won't stay. Then you get toxic and the other pvpers start to leave.
Yep, developing PvP is a time waste. The likeliness that you do PvP absolutely right from the beginning is very low and you have to do it right to engage PvPers. If you fail to succeed in that they just leave. PvEers are usually more chill.
Also, at least from my German/European perspective, the number of PvP players are much lower than PvE players.
@@Hamurator PVP devs are chasing the Fortnite / Call of duty crowd. 2 problems they run into: that crowd isn’t into MMOs and any game that devoted to PVP completely shuns the PVE crowd. They try to find a middle ground and alienate everyone.
Take Everquest 1's depth of lore and quests, use Everquest 2's graphics, and you have EQ3. This way, everyone gets to keep all the characters they spent literal decades on and fell deeply in love with, while making the world more beautiful and enthralling in the process.
Because if the future of EQ live servers is Laurion's Song levels of shallow and ugly, then TLPs are all they're gonna do.
0:49 I miss the days when you learned about MMOs (or games in general) by PLAYING IT, not "needing" to know about it prior to it even releasing
P.S, yes I feel old
We all feel old. My creakey knees keep me company when it's quiet.
Please give us an EQ3 that is a modernized EQOA. So much MMO/PC competition, this would differentiate it. EQOA was way before its time, it would do numbers now
I played EQ 1 when it came out up to about Gates of Discord... then I went to EQ2 and played off and on for some years after. I remember for ever that EQ Next was going to be a thing and I remember seeing demos where they were excited about being able to destroy environments, and having unique player built servers. My guess is that is still sitting on a shelf somewhere and may be a lot easier to make these days with UE 5 maybe?
If I were the devs I would maybe bounce some ideas off of Larian studios to maybe position EQ3 as somehow a mix of BG 3 and EQ 1 - where you could have some really unique solo quest play that transitions into into more group and raid stuff at higher level.
EQ 3?! I had no clue, please say it’s true. I’ve been out in the wilderness of terrible games for too long and I’m ready to go home.
I've got about 3000 hours into Return of Reckoning; a new MMO will have to be pretty darn good to pull me away.
@@appdevman I really wanted to like Warhammer Online, but I couldn't ever find anything beyond a Zergfest. I wish my experience had been different, but after several hundred hours, I couldn't do it anymore.
New EQ game would be amazing
EQ1 with a facelift will not get a new audience and that is essential for a new game. It has to be EQ3.
Ok guys. Prepare to like this so we can actually have this idea seen by people who can make it happen. We need a partnership between FromSoftware and Daybreak Games to take the decades of EQ lore and put it into the Elden Rings format. Those of us who played EQ know you only needed a few buddies to experience the lore with, ER has that system. And original EQ was hard. Dying punished us, and we loved it. They could work together on this and basically have the framework of dlc (EQ patches) be implemented into that world for the next 20 years. It would be amazing for EQ fans, FromSoftware fans, Souls fans. You could even throw in a theatrical(easy mode) for the casual player to experience the vast lore of Norrath.
Warhammer and EQ3 would both be great
You should keep an eye on Brighter Shores. I'm hyped for it.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it later this year. Covered it a bit already in other videos but really hoping to cover it more when it launches
Don't you dare suggest an EQ game with survival mechanics......... don't you dare 😑😑 I despise survival mechanics, like who the fuck came up with this shit? "Hey let's take all the things about real life that make it a pain in the ass and put them in video games that people use as an escape from the drudgery and monotony of real life!"... yeah brilliant idea! But WTF do I know plenty of idiots line up to play these games, but FFS keep that shit far far away from the EQ franchise, it's not wanted nor needed.
EQ had the best crafting minigame so far. Vanguard had the best fishing minigame and faction system. Please combine these in a ESO-like MMO and I'd be happy for a long, long time.
EQ 3 Now! EQ 4EVAH!
When I hear the eq music starting in the video, I saluted until it ended haha. Your love for eq is something I relate to and really hope they come up with something good.
In the last year i went back to eq1, and made a new 4 boxing crew and took them to lvl 125. I had such a blast leveling and exploring all the areas I missed or hadn’t been to
Much and whatnot. It was challenging and rewarding and so fun, especially like level 95-120 imo. When I got to the end game though, even tho I was still in my guild The Silent Minority and raided, I got bored and went back to WoW.
It still is though, in my opinion, the greatest MMO that has ever existed, and nothing I’ve played captures the feelings u get running around norrath.
After the EQN fiasco and them yanking Landmark out from under me, I've learned to hope for the best but expect the worst from Darkpaw. I'm not going to get my hopes up for a new MMO but would be extremely happy if it did happen. Yes i'm still bitter about Landmark being shut down, even more so than EQ Next being cancelled.
The idea that D&D is profitable because of the success of BG3 is flawed. It was successful because of the developer. That developer has stated it will no longer work under Hasbro, and future games will go to developers who bend the knee to the all of the absurdities Larian Studios wanted nothing to do with. We will see utterly crap D&D games that bomb.
I get where you're coming from and I'm not here to defend Hasbro or WOTC as I have huge problems with both, but Larian has been clear they had a great working relationship with WOTC and they just wanted to work on their own IP.
D&D games, when done well can be great because the IP lends itself to games. They were successful before BG3 and I'm sure they will be after, but we'll also get a ton of slop. Lots of games that just straight up suck because thats what big corps do with IP: substandard games with the IP attached. Mobile pay 2 win...etc. Its stilly long term but it does happen, Game of Thrones is probably one of the biggest examples.
I'm a rabid EQ2 fan and no other MMO ever caught my attention since I quit EQ2 live (2016) and only been playing TLE from time to time.
I never cared about EQN, didn't pre-order it, never liked anything about it.
Personally I wouldn't mind EQ3 being EQ1 sequel 'done right' whatever that means for EQ1 fans, sounds good to me.
I tried ESO, GW2 and archeage which could have been the greatest mmorpg ever made if they didn't p2w it to death and finished it off with fresh start servers.
I would like an EQ that is super lore heavy. Gods making regular appearances and...Well I guess I need to think this through a little more.. But Just heavy heavy lore. That was always one of my favorite things about the game.
Totally agree. My favorite expansion was Planes of Power, just fighting to each of gods, with Bertoxxulous being my favorite.
The idea of a Warhammer 40k MMO without PvP just doesn't make sense to me... it's kinda the whole point of Warhammer 40k.
I still play RoR. Very well run private server. Love the large battles.
And EQ3 yeah right sure. Believe it when I see it.
I need to get back into some RoR. I'm one of the weird ones who liked the PQs and Scenarios (battlegrounds) more than the open world RvR but sieging was always fun.
Champions of Norrath was peak multiplayer gaming back in the day. 4 of your friends all playing on the ps2 with the multi tap. Staying up all night. Good times!
Love your content Redbeard! Totally agree with you on the skepticism on the LotR MMO being up in the air. Pumped about anything Warhammer 40k MMO and EQ3 if & when it may ever come out!
I would play an everquest survival craft in a heartbeat 💓
Nothing will replace the love I had for landmark though...
I’d love to learn and see more of EQ3 (or 4). I’d love to revive my monk of the Tranquil!
Been talking for decades for EQ3. I'll believe it when I see it.
As a super sweaty EQ 1 player, that has been on most of the TLPs as they release, I can only hope and pray that they release EQ3 before I am geriatric. Not that this will stop me of course, no. I will slap on those adult diapers and make sure to get a spill-safe keyboard. Winning.
Eq was my first mmo always be my fav 😊.
Star Wars galaxies is to this day my ultimate favorite. The memories I have are my most fond of gaming.
Also I absolutely loved warhammer online, hard to beat pvp and lore, I hope they bring a new version
That 40k MMO is gonna be a mobile game, mark me.
I stopped every request once landmark was shut down. I dedicated so much of my life to that I'm kind of glad it happened
I WANT the Amazon LOTR mmo to be great. I really hope new world is teaching them a lot about making games, and mmo’s and they take all that to LOTR and make an amazing game. 🤞🤞
I'm watching this from 3pm - 3.26pm GMT (I had to pause to go for a coffee) if that helps. Whilst I never played EQ1 and onlyplayed a little of EQ2 as I was well into WoW by the time a freind showed me (Having started out my MMO career on Silk Road followed by Rubies of Eventide) but I remember watching all the stuff for EQ Next with great interest and being sad when it vanished so I'm certainly interested in EQ3.
Any interest I had in a new Warhammer MMO died the moment you said "NetEase".
Thank you for making this content.
Thank you so much for watching!
I would like a more classic mmo experience like Rubies of Eventide meets DAOC really done with Themeparks with mailboxes. EQ3 likely will be a heavy raid grind and thats good for that kind of player but some of us remember pre carebear games and just a little of that back would be great.
Lets pick a few mmos and make a clan and play. I havent played a single mmo in years. All of your subs, LETS GOOO! 😁
I haven't gotten my hopes up about EQ in 20 years...
Everquest doesn't need to be reinvented, it needs to be re-released in, UE5 with updated spell visuals and more of an action combat style.
Polish it with some group/raid finders and some channels(not instances) to hop between and you don't need to do anything.
EQ already has the lore and depth. Re-release the old game remastered with some modern conveniences and you already have a cash cow.
The only reason I don't play it still is because of the combat and graphics. There was not, nor has been another game with the scale and lore of EQ. Period.
PS - I love seeing all the comments about EQ. Its obviously the most cherish IP in gaming history :)
We are definitely in dire need of a good (I stress, good) Sci-Fi MMO, so I'm hopeful for a 40k MMO.
I appreciate the Star Trek Online mention. It's old and janky as hell but if you like the Star Trek universe it is *fantastic* for more Star Trek stories. It has a ton of great content, all for free, with no real need to use the cash shop.
I was a beta tester for warhammer online right before acquired mythic once EA got in beta was shut dowen for about a year and when it came back Warhammer online was a different game
Id like to see the original everqueat built in UE5 with no zoneing and water content like archeage had. Open world housing and farming.
Would love to play a modern port of Champions of Norrath!
Right!?
MnM baby! Still early but the feels are right there...can't wait.
I expect that Light No Fire will be have one gigantic server cluster so it counts for me as an MMO. And it has my highest hopes as Hello Games knows how to procedurally create landscapes and doesn't need to craft much by hand - which I see as a huge problem for the other projects especially the 40k MMO for which everyone does expect some kind of space travelling and exploring more than one planet.
A redo of Warhammer fantasy (if done right) would have SO MUCH potential.
I actually liked the whole RvR play style
What if, EQ3 is made in an iteration of EQ1 and then they decide to shut down the EQ1 servers. This is scary to think about.
@@_IamJr_ RS 3 all over again
I’d be okay with an EQ remaster with some QoL improvements
Everquest as an IP is not in a good state atm for sustainability. DPG has made the unofficial announcement that this Dec will be the last live expansion and they are cutting back new content drastically and will rely on TLP for revenue to support through the next ~half decade of EQ3 development.
Few things - This doesnt mean no new live content but more along lines of a new zone here and there and a new raid or mission here and there in monthly patches. And if they do what they are promising with decembers expansion it will be one of the biggest content expansions in a while and have some more lasting appeal.
So why are they doing this? Teek was the single most successful TLP server they've ever done, more than half the subscribed accounts online at any given time are on that one server. So DPG is seeing it as the flip in what supplements what. It used to be TLPs supplemented live, a little extra cash to keep live going, but as it stands at surface level in 2024, live is only supplementing TLP.
So why is this not the best? Teek is only successful for 1 reason. Last decembers expansion, Laurion's Song was the single worst expansion ever released. it was an unmitigated disaster. There's no exaggerating, there's no 'ohh well there was this, or that,' - it was the most unbalanced and smallest content expansion by miles, a true embarrassment for any other studio, not even the little like ldon/ykesha half expansions were as small. So Teek is comprised of a VAST majority of live players holding out for December.
So what DPG has done is give up dollars for shiny dimes. Cause come december if the new expansion isnt a stellar never before seen home run of content that player base isnt going to stick around another 10+ months farting around/waiting and passing time on May's new TLP when there is no other new expansion on the horizon.
They stated in may they're about 80k monthly subs, at this pace they'll be lucky if they have half that next year in Sep.
They are not going to have the money to fund a new MMORPG and no ones investing from the outside in MMORPGs.
It's not happening =/
I wish I was wrong, but i'm just not. =/
Naa that just means you can't have 3 games all fighting for the same audience. This makes sense.
@@Ziplock9000 of course they cant have 3 games fighting for the same audience, but thats in 5 years, absolute best case scenario. But what happens in the next half decade? They've put into motion a plan that could wipe EQs revenue in half by end of next year, and you can see from the EG7 buyout a few years back that EQ is their main breadwinner. So where does the funding for EQ3 come from with EQ having the rug ripped out from under it.
My favorite MMO of all time is Ultima Online. I played that day 1 for years. I would love a new updated game from that world, or if there is I have never heard of it.
Oh God, please let an Ever Quest 2 happen that doesn't get cancled
Love how you mentioned the Project 1999/Quarm and RoR as those were my fav mmos along with DAoC! There hasn’t been a comparable RvR game like DAoC that I’m aware of?
I honestly was taken aback when you mentioned Star Citizen. Thought I had died and gone to heaven. Twelve years ago. Still trying to mend my broken heart. Better yet, prom date. LoL Anyway, great vid.
Champions of Norrath 1 & 2 should be remastered and released on PC with multiplayer, would be a insta-buy for a lot of people. Good way to get the brand back on the map to prepare for EQ3.
Great vid. I've been playing a little bit of asherons call 2 emulator lately its very unfinished and ruff but still nice to hop into.
I would love❤ it if Champions of Norrath was ported to Xbox & Playstation. They don't need to remaster or remake it, just make it playable on modern consoles. 🎉
I was the #1 raid MT Defiler on my server for EQ2 lol so much fun
Man.. I would be in big trouble with work, family… life in general if / when EQ 3 came out! 😂
Ruins of Kunark was my favorite game ever. What a magical time and game. I would love to revisit Norrath again.
I’m sure you had the same wake up call seeing Succulents and thinking they were funny one minute, only to be one shotted by them the next!
“SOW for corpse run please!”
I would absolutely try EQ3.
I've played them all, but EQ by far. In this video I heard that music and I was back in early 2000 when I first played hearing it on the launch screen. Waiting to get my butt kicked as I went one on one vs a single Skeleton or perhaps a fire beatle and his friends in the Nektulos Forest hoping to make it back to where the guards might, perhaps save me from my newbie mistake.
Warhammer Online at its core was a perfect pvp mmo. It just needed more time to work itself out.. If they took that and rebuilt it I'd play that 100%.. Still the best pvp mmorpg to this day, makes Gw2/WoWs pvp look like a total carebare land.
Amazon best get LOTR MMO right. Personally I'd also love it to be set in the time frame of the Second Age.
Rings of Power MMO? Nope.
The moment you mentioned NetEase my heart sank. Devastating.
State of things unfortunately. The expectation of aggressive monetization is kind of a given for non-indie projects.
I'd like a fantasy version of Eve. Lots of procedural created content on a persistent company hosted seed. Swords and Spreadsheets
I believe that's essentially what Pax Dei is angling to be, former Eve Devs and all.
Not me sitting here with two live accounts, a P99 account, and Quarm account.
Thank you for doing your part /salute