ULTRON Was in LOVE with Wanda (And VISION Wasn't!) | MARVEL Avengers Theory BREAKDOWN
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2021
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We all know that Ultron was an unthinking murder-bot...but what if he wasn't? What if he actually fell in love with Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch, and tried to win her approval. This explains her immediate attraction to Vision, and why Ultron was so tender towards her.
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Written and Hosted Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
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@@BthIX same
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this is accurate, and true
😂😂😂
@@criznittle968 ...and correct
He kills her brother and she rips his heart out, sounds like the average relationship
The Ultimate love affair 😂
Most likely because he wanted Wanda for himself.
I always said the same thing...Ultron was concerned about Wanda dying in Sokovia...Vision went to save her.
I've been rewatching the MCU recently, and just finished AoU a few days ago. When Ultron says, "please, don't do this." to Wanda, he really seems heartbroken.
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I thought the same thing
EVERYONE is in love with Wanda Maximoff.
Specially robots
Galadriel vibes.
"All shall love me and despair!"
Well have you seen Wanda. I mean who wouldn't immediately fall in love with her after they look at her.
guilty
@@fernandoaznar8054 huh, I guess I'm a robot
Regardless of how underrated Utron is, he is still one of my favourite villains of the MCU in recent years.
For those who haven't seen wandavision, spoilers...
This theory is interesting and might explain why white Vision showed no interest in Wanda. He was Vision but without the mind stone is no longer linked to Ultron and therefore to Wanda aswell. We might have to wait and see but it can be an interesting aspect to explore.
I expected him to bring that up as part of why he thinks Vision didn't love Wanda.
I thought of this too! If you think of a person as made up of mind body and soul, White Vision has the body (vibranium, remade in Sword), the mind (JARVIS AI with its memories restored) but not the soul (the piece of the mind stone that passed through Ultron) ... so he's not really the Vision that loves Wanda.
No sword suppressed Jarvis ultron still is in there with Jarvis u can see that when white vision was created he immediately checked his left arm the arm ultron had lost at the end on age of ultron meaning he's still in there and when hex vision unlocked white vision he again had feelings.
He didn’t have his memories atm so 🤷♂️
@@ItsAK69 Indeed. He probably left after because he had to fix himself as a person now. The problem is he only got the memories until the Infinity War and not what the Hex Vision had which is very tragic to say for Wanda.
This actually makes it easier for Ultron to actually return because he never left, always has been in the vision
Exactly. Even in WandaVision the new vision tells White Vision that a Synthezoid's data can not be erazed, may be that's how he will return.
It's been Ultron all along 😂
It's not just Ultron
It's everyone 😍
guilty
You could even say that the Mind Stone loved her and when it sort of got a body, Ultron's, it went about trying to gain Wanda's affections because there was the latent stone within him. Then, it fully ended up in Vision's head and it could REALLY impress her now! It was not about to screw up the way Ultron was with her.
Probably why Vision refused to ever be a super murder bot the way Infinity Ultron was in What If...? I guess THAT variant of the Mind Stone didn't love Wanda because Ultron annihilated her. That scene where Zombie Wanda meets Infinity Ultron suggests that Infinity Ultron either never knew Wanda/there was no Wanda/simply didn't love her because he seems very confused when he meets her, but he still goes about wrecking her anyway.
not to mention that in wandavision the second to last episode, we learn that everyone else who was experimented with the mind stone died except for Wanda (and her brother)
Ultron, Pietro and Wanda in Age of Ultron: When you're hanging out with your crush and her bro and you just keep waiting for her bro to leave... but he doesn't so you just shoot him...
lol
Ultron's flirting with Wanda is derived from Tony Stark's womanizing tendencies in the Iron Man movies
Why not both?
Derived*
Mind blown 🤯
I love how Ultron was made out of the futurism of Tony Stark, but it automatically led to a different POV that was exactly the fear that made Tony Stark a Futurist. it's like a time heist but in a psychological way.
It's called "self-fulfilling prophecy".
To add to your theory, in the comics Ultron is obsessed/in love with Janet van Dyne (Wasp). He even built Jocasta, another robot, in her likeness.
So, because she hadn't been included with this generation of Avengers, they probably decided to make his obsession Wanda instead.
Good Point!
And he’s obsessed with Janet van Dyne cuz in the comics because in the comics his consciousness was modeled after Hank Pyms I’m guessing.. I haven’t read the comics but I know this because of Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes and the cartoons and generally closer to the comics
I'm just wondering why Wanda instead of Pepper?
@@moonknightanimations1251 Because there is more room to do interesting things with the Ultron-Wanda dynamic, because Wanda is in love with Vision, who is partially Ultron
@@moonknightanimations1251 another reason could be cuz pepper loves Tony and at first Wanda and Ultron shared a mutual dislike of Tony.
Ultron is polite, efficient and has a plan to kill everyone he meets. Ultron is The Sniper confirmed!
I understood that reference!
Boom.
@@FabioBrachtPlus headshot.
@@noodle9829
*meet the sniper title card*
@@justloggedin2969 I didn't! Pls explain!!!
This feels like it could very well have been the writers' intention, giving Vision and Wanda a backstory before the Vision was even created
We see the hand of Saint Feige everywhere
Vision to Tony: True, he [Ultron] hates you the most.
Wonder if that carries over to Vision in any way 🤔
I think you have it totally backwards. It's the mindstone that fell in love with wanda. Before the mindstone ever even had a body.
Yes!!! We saw in wv how she had witch-like powers before the mind stone
interesting theory! it is what Wanda, Ultron, and Vision have in common.
In the Marvel Ultimate Universe, Ultron was in love with Wanda... so naturally, he killed her so that no one else can have her.
Makes sense for him to be yandere.
I like to think that the stone is the one in love with wanda. Just like how the phoenix force in love with jean grey.
Then the reality stone must be in love or hold a strong connection with Dr. Jane Foster since out of all the hosts she held out the longest.
I really would have wanted to see her use the stone.
@@insaneworld211 depends.. maybe not all stones have a personality. Plus, theres no trace or part of the stone left on Jane's body. Unlike wanda and pietro. As we saw in wandavision, the stone seeing wanda as a special being and giving her the 'vision' of her inner scarlett witch.
@@insaneworld211 but, maybe marvel also going to play it out just like that for jane. Who knows.
@@TheOrisya idk about that since there is a book series connection to the events of Infinity War, where it states that Jane wasn't dusted and that there was still some of the reality stone inside her.
@@insaneworld211 maybe. If so thats her way in to have power.
This theory is weird, but we have to admit that he created a body that had exactly what Wanda loves. 😑
It doesn't smell of coincidence.
AND WHO COULD BLAME THE GUY? AMMIRIGHT?
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HAHA TRUE
Who doesn't like redheads?
This theory needed more Doug
I just have one question: would you guys make this same assumption if Wanda were male? Why is that because ultron comes of as male, his "love for wanda" is a romantic "in love" one? I'm not denying the possibility that he may have cared for the Maximoffs, but that emotion very well could have been a familial one. Maybe if Ultron was shown preferring Wanda's company often, it could've warranted this romantic implication, but I don't recall anything like that.
Ive always find it weird why ultron didn't kill natasha or the twins... Now Im interested to rewatch it with a new perspective!
he planned on wiping out humanity and bringing them back better, pure. seem familar?
He probably figured that Nat was peak human. She is capable of breaking both bones and psyche and yet at the same time hold together even the most broken families. So maybe he wanted her to be his blueprint?
You could say that the part of Vision that makes him emotional, causing him to become distracted during the airport battle, that causes him to feel lonely when he's without Wanda and insecure when asking her to be with him, comes from the small percentage of Ultron's personality matrix that's in his brain.
Vision's longing for companionship may come from Ultron but his compassion prevents these emotions from overwhelming him and causing him to lash out in hatred.
Well I think technically he doesn't love her but feels an affinity to her due to whatever happened to her when the mind stone reacted to her so mabey on a deep level he just understood that they were similar
Also, what if Ultron knew that Wanda could create life and wanted to repopulate the earth using her powers. What other being on Earth could possibly create new life that carries the building blocks of both Wanda and Ultron?
Ultron ain't the only one with a crush on Wanda 😍 lol
guilty
Ultron's "I don't have anyone else" directed at Natasha reminds me of Tony's "I don't have anyone but you" directed at Pepper when he asked her to change his arc reactor in Iron Man 1.
I’ve seen some strange theories but this is something else
9:12 - This scene hits completely differently with that soundtrack!
Mephisto couldn't even handle that heat.
No way, no how. He'd probably be tuning in from Hotel Inferno like..
"Damn! Is it getting hot in here, or what? 😈
I think we are all in love with Wanda
I loved every bit of this theory....I've always suspected Ultron genuinely cared for Wanda once I saw that final moment they had right before she ripped his "heart" out...the way he says "if you stay,you'll die" had a lot of emotion in it
I always thought her ripping his heart out was odd/stuck out to me! He def cared for her
Counter argument: It’s established that the infinity stones have a kind of sentience. Wanda realized her powers and manifested herself through her introduction to the mind stone. Ultron started creating Vision with the mind stone which powers him. They seem to share an understanding and connection where Wanda can “feel” him through the mind stone as shown in Infinity War. Later when Tyler Hayward rebuilds Vision he seems the same but is missing the destroyed mind stone. He even gets his memories restored but he doesn’t seem to care about Wanda anymore. Therefore we can summarize that the mind stone is actually the link here. The mind stone recognizes Wanda and loves her.
It’s still possible that Ultron did love her for another reason. She’s just so stinking cute! Who wouldn’t?
I love this theory. I have always wondered how the romance between Wanda en Vision could arise so quickly, and him just showing up at the end of AoU to rescue her seemed random, with their relationship advancing quickly from that point onwards. But what you proposed fills in the blanks perfectly; the ambiguous, one-sided and somewhat awkward relationship between Ultron and Wanda continued through Vision. Somehow Vision, with his curiosity and pure heart, was able to develop an actual love towards Wanda, who then reciprocated. I wonder what must had been going on inside Vision's mind at the end and directly after AoU, if he understood where his affection to Wanda came from and if he tried to rationalize it.
Can we just talk about the fact that Ultron was right Wanda did tear them apart from the inside the explosion in Lagos was because of her which caused the soacvia accords which tarred them apart
Wanda is so pretty she made two super boys fall in love with her
I think you meant two superbots. Lol
I think she even made a powerful stone fall in love with her
The question is who DOESN'T have a crush on Wanda and Nat?😂 (Except for Clint. He doesn't count, he already has a beautiful wife)
Would be nice to see Ultron back and be like a Claude Frollosque character. A being searching for love and affection but being full of hate and demise.
The editing on this video is superb!
Unexpected But Interesting Content 👍
Please do a vid on what if Ultron had successfully downloaded himself into Vision.
they already kinda did
in their vid "Ultron was right" they touch on this subject
@@nibor4323 Thanks. I must have missed it.
@@AdiAfendi watch what if episode
@@knowledgeinc2039 Yeah, I have. This post was made 7 months ago. Thanks. It was a great episode.
@@AdiAfendi oh yeah my bad I didn't see the date
I had started thinking about this theory too, as I noticed how Vision’s affection towards Wanda in the comics, his brain patterns were based on Wonder Man who was in love with the Scarlet Witch. Looking back at how a part of Ultron is what made Vision in the MCU and how he shown most concern to Wanda overall led me to think about the theory.
Ultron WANTED Wanda. He loved himself only, and that was in an askew way. What you have to unerstand about Ultron was that he was made from the mindstone which had been in the hands of aliens who'd been instilling the whole "Freedom is life's great lie" bullshit in Loki and others, and it'd been in the hands of Hydra who had the "humanity could not be trusted with it's own freedom" mentality. Tony made Ultron expecting him to rescue the world, but without respect for freedom "peace" would only ever mean either "enslavement" or "extinction". Lack of respect for other people's freedom is basically selfishness, and Ultron obviously had no honest respect for freedom, he viewed others as animals. He may have wanted to mate with Wanda and sought to court her, but really no he didn't "love" her.
This just created a WHOLE new ship in the fandom
It’s been underground for a while
I’ve been saying this that Ultron loved Wanda no one every believed me
Now they listen
I thought it was fatherly love
I also felt he cared for her too. She was the only person he was gentle towards.
There’s no doubt that the mind stone and Wanda have a strong and strange relationship. I want to know more about the life of the stones before it all. Who where the first possessors? How come they’re so powerful yet so manageable for most non-human beings? How come the things that are so intricate with existence can be destroyed?
Wow so that why he didn’t worry about his plan knowing she was destined to be ‘The Scarlet Witch, World Ender’ anyway
This comment is underrated. Although in WandaVision Agatha says that the Scarlet Witch is molded by life, not born. So maybe it wasn't certain that wanda would be it
@@triscardenas5382 true but wouldn’t he have known? She was made a powerful being because of the mindstone which had already happened.
In the Marvel Ultimates Avengers universe Wanda uses a hex on one of the Ultron robots that was created as a protection force and it fell in love with her.
Need more of this
You've been going hard in the paint recently. Respect 👌
It's an interesting theory I give you that he's certainly got humour
The editing in this was glorious
My theory is that Ryan doesn't actually play Raid Shadow Legends.
No one does
He has the best transitions to sponsors
Wait but Ultron's personality is based on Tony's, so that must mean . . . oh nooooooooo 😬
Oh shit Lol 🤯😂
Ooh Shit!! Pepper
🤣😂🤣😂🤣... sigh
I love this video so damn much ❤️
Ultron was really in love with Wanda in Ultimate Marvel
There we go ! Great video Ryan , very Mature ,
Awesome dude
In the comics, Wonderman's consciousness was imparted to Vision and he was in love with Wanda.
That ad Segway was so smooth, that it hit a bump and I chipped my tooth.
Yay! Young Frankenstein reference!
The title of this video should be Ultron Is Actually An Amazing Villian
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Especially when the ad is written as if the person actually plays that shit. No one plays that shit.
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I love this theory. Especially the "every man shows himself" montage🤣
That's actually a dope theory
I actually thought this when I watched the film aswell.
It makes me hope we see Ultron again in some form.
What 😟
He’s a little confused but he’s got the spirit
That’s what she said 😁
The thumbnail though 😂
My reaction was wandas face In the thumbnail but then I was like " I request elaboration" and I'm still thumbnail wanda but Im enlightened I guess
Getting savvy with those in video ad segues. LOL
That thumbnail thou😍😮
this makes a lot of sense for what you said, besides, who wouldn’t fall in love with Wanda
This is pretty damn solid. Even if it's not what was intended. What do you think this could mean for White Vision and the future? Is all of Ultron, including his alleged love, purged w the destruction of that part of the Mind Stone? Is it still buried within the body? Thus, could White Vision fall back in love with Wanda, or even attempt a retake of the world?
Some of those reasons sound more like manipulation, spite, toxicity, and obsession rather than love.
Then he would have said, "stay with me till the end", not, "if you stay here you'll die"
That's a really good theory
3:26 YO ULTRON SOUNDS LIKE A KID TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO HIS MOM TO NOT KILL TIGERS
@Nexus Prime it’s weird to see Ultron sound like an actual human instead of speaking like a god
@Nexus Prime yeah, but in the comics he is more of a cosmic robot which was a virus to Tony’s fathers robot system which was more of a god but in the movies he sounds like his a human
That's some crazy theory but i love it ❤️
Ultron was trying to make Wanda a mom early 🤭
This platform needs MORE input from Assistant Manager Doug.
He's a good boy.
The ship of Theseus scene was so good I forgot it was the MCU for a second. More writing like that please Kevin Feige
When I saw the thumbnail I was like
"It does make sense, Ultron made Vision to get more beautiful (I guess)"
You are brilliantly observant and insightful. I appreciate your videos every week. Thanks for everything you put into these.
Over-analyzing...LOVE IT!!! :-)
We need A return of Ultron
I want more of ultron
1 min in, you already fit in an raid ad....
Nice
I tried to pay attention but my mind keeps thinking about James Spader in a robot costume.... 🤖
In the ultimate comics he actually fell in love with her but killed her after finding out she is taken...by her brother
That's Raymond crooked redington😂
When I do those things everyone calls me creepy
I want to hear Doug's theory
2:16 to Skip the ad!!
You really going to lie to your audience for a RAID: SHADOW LEGANDS advert?!
Does it trouble anyone else how much sense this makes?
How Symmetrical!