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How To Make A Defensive Tactic in FM24
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- In the last tactic video, we talked about how to make a simple, basic tactic. Well in this video, we're going to talk about how you can make a defensive tactic in football manager 24, focused on stopping the opponent.
Some of the things include creating your defensive strategy, how to set up your team, a solid defensive formation, and what players roles you can use for a defensive tactic.
And after all that, we watch a match (a tough home match at that!) and go through the tactical instructions you can use to try and stop the opponent.
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CHAPTERS
0:00-1:36 STRATEGY
1:36-4:19 TALKIN LUTON
4:19-7:40 1ST HALF
7:40-9:56 CAUTIOUS MENTALITY
9:56-12:06 2ND HALF
12:06-13:20 NOW THIS IS LEARNING
What I like most about this man's videos is the fact that he's not looking for exploits to turn the game engine around. Explains the reasoning in a simple and easy to understand way. Most FM content creators simply use the same formations over and over again , always with the same instructions and exploits. keep up the good work!
Agreed. People need to understand why certain roles and instructions work and why others don't.
thank you!! I like to show my process, that way it's easy for you guys to change/adjust to your own way to play as you go along. Plus, for better or worse, talking about the result at the end of the match to show that you could still lose even if you do everything right 😂😂
@@spinyslasher6586 this is why I like doing the player role videos along side these. So there will always be a reference that you can refer back to (although funny enough, I don't think I've done one role that was used in this formation 🥶🥶😆😆
Honestly the biggest difference in my eyes is that you say and you can see, that you actually watch the full game highlights. Most channels is see pass by focus on full seasons stats and how to max results. While I personally really appreciate, qualitative analysis and in depth approach!
Everyone knows that there are certain exploits that really work well in the match engine. But as someone who appreciates the actual tactics and adjustments aspects, I gotta say that I take more joy out of preparing a plan for each game, over slapping in a 4-2-3-1 gegenpress and racing to x amounts of trophies.
However no way I’m going under comprehensive highlights… You’re a mad man watching the full game sims 😂😂
exactly, i hate when i see other say in their video "never use a low block it sucks", I dont understand what is the point in playing this game if its just game breaking tactics and exploits.
Best fm content creator right now, i've been overthinking tactics for more than 2 years and you have cleared up so many things, thank you!
FACTS!!
you guys are going to make me blush 🤣 i know sometimes it's easy to fall into the idea of using a ton of instructions (me included in this), so I'm glad that these kinds of videos are helping out
Genuinely one of the best educators/entertainers/RUclipsrs I have ever seen. I’ve literally watched all of your videos (a few of them multiple times). I hope you blow up man
thank you my friend!! Glad the videos and ideas are helping out!
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Awesome video.
The hardest thing I've found is to not deviate from the plan when you go behind. When you're the underdog, you can try to get the best advantage possible, but sometimes it just won't come off. Sometimes you will lose 1-0 like in this example. Sometimes you'll take the lead, get very close to an upset, but then they get the equaliser later on, and it's still impressive, but not as amazing as winning. But being the weaker team, that can happen sometimes.
The biggest mistake would be to go more attacking as soon as you go behind, when the game plan is working OK, you just came behind because the opposition are better quality. When I do that, I tend to just "run into the knives" and go down 2-0 or 3-0 very quickly. I have to remind myself to trust the plan, and the 1-1 may yet come if we remain patient. Although sometimes it can pay off to go balls-to-the-wall in the 80th minute when they are tired and you have reserves. It's very fun when you pull it off, but it's not going to happen reliably.
I'm curious how one would go about this when actually being a pretty strong team (mid-table, sub-top or better) but playing cautiously to get results. I.e. be Southgate or Deschamps and bore everyone to death, but still get the results. Not how I would like to play per se, but could be interesting especially in tournament football.
It's an intersting idea, especially when you approach it during the actual match. For example, in this video, Arsenal scored because of a mistake from my player and/or a great player from their own. I'd be curious how I would've adjusted (even for the sake of the video lol) if Arsenal was hitting those long balls over the top and getting chance after chance; or if the tactic just wasn't working and they were getting whatever they wanted.
I actually was thinking about it on the attacking end though; because my forwards were missing a lot of pretty good chances that I couldn't really afford to miss. Do I change them to something else, in hopes that a role change or substiution can get us a goal? Or do I keep doing the same thing, because it is technically working, they're just not converting?
I played an Arsenal team (as Ajax) that was much stronger than mine and both of us played cautiously! It worked in my favour, I was hoping for a draw anyway, they created basically nothing and I managed an incredibly scrappy set piece goal to win 1-0. I felt if they'd attacked they probably would have beaten me!
Love your videos, man. Please do keep it up, probably the best FM guide related content in youtube, clean, direct, easy to follow, great content and the hard work you put in by dividing in neat sections both the youtube and the slides is awesome!
I'm glad you like the different sections! I do spend some time making sure they flow together so I'm glad you noticed haha
Although i'm on "rehab" of FM, your videos are so interesting and teachable. Does not make any sense only show broken tactics if you don't comprehend how it really works.
Congrats and all the best from Spain
I'm glad you enjoy the videos and thank you for the support!
Results like this 0-1 against worldclass teams is what I call "builders". It builts the team in the save. You are doing so much better in these games than beating a lower division team 3-0 in a cup game. It gives the team a lift in all ways there is in the game. Develops players and team. Very important important getting these results. Brilliant stuff!
Totally agree! I kinda alluded to it in the video, but that's all you can ask for from your team. Did we give ourselves a chance to beat a top class team? And we did I think! We lost sure, but we lost because of a play we see all the time in football, not because they were a top class team and we're supposed to be relegated and got pushed around. Matches like this are the reason I love playing FM
Damn it, I was expecting some clickbaity "here's a tactic that will guarantee no goals against you!" that you see online. /s
Great explanation once again, especially enjoyed the pros and cons of it.
Since you mentioned it, I think I'll try and do more of the pros/cons in the future, or at least more of a breakdown of what specifically to look for.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I think it's very refreshing to see that, especially with my tongue in cheek reference to clickbaity tactics, and a few other comments below, where you see online where people try to exploit the engine
Thanks, I've been looking for a video like this for a while now. Simple, well explained and down to the basics instead of bloated instructions. I'm glad I found your channel a few days ago.
glad the video helped out! The instructions can scale to your team as well! So if you're chasing the game, you can increase the mentaliy, or tempo. Or if you like some aspects of the tactic but not others, it should be easy to make changes to fit your squad. and thank you for the support!
Hey, I just found your channel through recommendations and immediately subscribed. You're clear, concise and provide great visual examples. Fantastic content.
thank you the kind words and for the support! Glad you enjoyed the video
Such good content again. I like that you try to play football and not the match engine. That’s the same way I like to play
There's so much variance in the match when playing like that, which I love... like in this match, played well for the entire 1st half and yet we give up a goal. But Arsenal also missed two basically point blank chances, but we missed some too. That match could've been 3-0 to them, or 2-1 to us, whatever. Makes every match exciting and unexpected. And we see that when we watch footbal irl, so to see it replicated in FM is really rewarding
This is amazing!
I have literraly been spending months trying to put together a note that i could reference and it isn't even 10% as good as this.
I play this game cause i love coaching but my football/soccer understanding is limited and you give very graspable actual football knowledge.
glad you liked it!! I try to make my videos scalable to your own squad, or at least explain my reasoning so you can adjust whatever you'd like to how you want to play.
Your videos are just so good! Keep them coming, I haven't missed a single one, and upped my game a lot.
really means a lot that you support each video!! thank you for all the support and happy that the each video has been helping out
Best fm content around by far. Thanks man. Keep up the good work !
Glad you enjoy it!
Instant like + comment. Really good video, thank you!
Much appreciated! thank you!
Your subscribers need to increase. Let’s make this happen people. Great FM content for new and old
thank you my friend! Appreciate the support and kind words
Nice vid. Mentality is like a risk modifier. Most attacking and the players just want to get forward even if they're marked out. They're just excited to get up the pitch with and without the ball. Most defensive they're practically looking towards the manager constantly asking if it's alright to make a move 😂
You can kinda see it in the catious mentality review of this one haha. The winger is like "are you sure it's okay I go forward?"
Great video. A solution I found for the problem of long balls was to put the goalkeeper in the role of a sweeper-keeper on attack duty. This way, he stays more advanced, sometimes even outside the area, and can try to clear the ball. The issue is his speed, decision and anticipation.
this is an incredible tip, thanks for that!! Totally going to try it next time
I was fortunate enough to fall upon your videos from the very beginning of your uploads on this channel. You have a splendid beard and a voice like caramel, your videos are like candy for my optical sensors. I hope at some point you create a video detailing the differences between a fluid and structured tactic and your preferences.
Wow, thank you! Happy to have you aboard with the journey so far. When I was younger my voice was... not like this hahaha. So I guess I paid my dues so to speak lol. I don't have any plans for that kind of video at the moment, but that could be a real cool topic to do in the future!
Update, I ended up getting fm24 and ill definitely be using ur vids. Great insight and explanation 👏🏾
oh man that's excellent! Welcome to the club! Keep the updates coming
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I started a save in the 10th tier of England. I love lower league saves but I havent done much since my laptop is on its last legs. But moving back to my gaming PC soon 😂. Used your "how to make a simple tactic" tips and it was so much easier to make a tactic for the team
Possession video helped me get promoted unexpectedly.
Now I need all the help😂
Unexpected promotion is the best kind of promotion haha. Glad the tactic worked and good luck in the new league!!
Lovely stuff! Great explanations! Overall best FM videos for some time now! Keep it up! 💪
thank you my friend for the kinds words!
I'm not a defensive guy myself, but whenever you make a video about something, it really makes me want to try hahha
haha I find myself doing the same thing when researching for the role videos. "You know, maybe I do need to use a no-nonsense center back more" XD
This is awesome! Keep this type of content coming our way! It's very helpful.
Thanks! Should be seeing a nice mixture of videos on the channel as we go forward hopefully!
i was just looking for a video on this, you're a life saver!! keep up the great content!
Glad I could help!
Keep up the hard work. You are going to keep growing as you go with the future releases. Happy for you now and I'll be happy for you then!
thank you!! Really grateful for everyone in the community that is growing here
Incredible insight 🔥🔥🔥 subscribed 😊
Welcome aboard!
Another great video, very clear explanation. I'm using a very similar style in my Red Star FC save since getting promoted.
it is a really good system to use I think. Are you using a 442 as well?
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker yeah, I'm a bit more reliant on my full backs for crosses. So my wingers aren't as attacking. Then with the classic anchor + segundo vol in the middle
That was really good! Love those kind of videos! Hope to see more of them!
I just got Hull City promoted to the prem with a squad that was mostly loans. Now they’re gone and I’m left with a championship squad and a shoestring budget so this video is a lifesaver. I can already tell this first prem season is going to be a backs-to-the-wall slog
The sneaky nice thing about trying to not get relegated, is you only have to be better than 3 other teams. It's not like you're fighting for Champions League where every single match is a must win. This makes drawing a match feel like a win
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I love this idea. Never thought about it this way
You are a legend, I can't wait for a possession control and an offensive!
thanks!! Those are coming soon(ish) haha
Excellent video as usual. I learn more and more each times.
Can you do video on your game settings, skins, packs ect?
I don't think I had thought about doing a video before on that, but that is a great suggestion! thanks and I'll see if I can do something on my settings and all that good stuff
Learning new stuff every single video. Great work once again.
Who knew a team like Luton could bring us all together and learn about FM haha
This is literally what I've been looking for, thank u
No problem!
Love your content, so much value on fm
I appreciate that thank you!
Another excellent video.
Observing Euro 24 I wanted to try the following catenaccio tactic: 4-5-1-0-0 with a CMA as most advanced player. To use better the wing backs, probably we need two inverted fb and two liberos. No time now to test, but how really weaker teams play internationally is something like that, they defend in 11
Man I'd love to try a tactic like that haha. I think something like that could work, but it'd probably be one of those things that takes a lot of tweaking/testing like you say
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker it's a situational tactic. At the end of the day if you are San Marino and you play Brazil you are not going to be effective with gegenpress
Another incredible video, thank you.
glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the support!
Seus vídeos são incríveis! Seu canal foi um achado muito legal.
O ritmo é ótimo, é bem simples ao explicar táticas e funções. Espero que não pare de fazer vídeos, afinal, conteúdo de FM é muito difícil de achar em boa qualidade.
Thank you my friend! And thank you for supporting the channel and I'm glad the videos are helping out!
Defensive Tactic: RANGE
Defensive Style: MANY
Depth: MANY
Width: MANY
Offensive Tactic: RANGE
Offensive Style: MANY
Players In Box: MANY
Build Up Play: MANY
Width: MANY
Hey man I've been absolutely loving your videos and it's been changing how I look at my players.
Can you please do a video on the Central Midfield (At) and The Advanced Playmaker (Both in Midfield and Out wide)
Thank you and glad you're enjoying the videos! I think the CM video is coming sorta soon(ish), and I'll see if I can do something on the AP after this next chunk of videos for the month
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Awesome man, I'll really appreciate. Everyone always seems to use these 2 roles excellently in their tactics especially the CM(ATT) but when I use them they are always average with a bunch of 6.8 ratings where I don't even really understand what they are doing, where they are supposed to be and why certain players aren't working there
@@TeanJodibo In the short term, if you check out my videos on the Box to Box midfielder, the inverted wingback, and the Anchor, those videos all use the same tactic and it has a Central Midfielder on Attack. Not the perfect solution for you, but may help you out until the CM video is released!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thanks so much man🤝
Hello everyone and welcome. Love your content bro, keep it up 😎
"in today's video, we're going to talk about..." haha. Thanks for the support!
Please follow this up with an attacking football tutorial! Brilliant and educational content ⚽️
Thank you! More tactic videos are on the way in the coming future!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker look forward to it! These videos go in-depth in a way that I haven’t seen before on YT. Clear and concise, and very fun to watch!
Would love to see the same kind of video for possession tactics. Keep it up!
Thanks! Definitely have some more of these style videos planned to compliment the role videos
I love making free-flowing attacking tactics, but it will be a while until I have something more satisfying than taking Man City to pens (1-1 in both legs) in a Champions League knockout with a considerably worse team by making a really solid defensive tactic that negated their attacking threat
Totally get that. I did a save with Leeds last FM and we won a match at Man City 2-1 with a similar style. It was a better feeling than any trophy win with a top team
Fantastic! This is a brilliant video.
Many thanks!
Hope you keep doing videos when FM 25 arrives.
That's definitely the plan! I'm curious to see if they introduce more player roles; or more revisions to positional play
Your content is always top notch!
Quick question, how long do you leave your matches in full match mode?
For me I leave it till the 20th minute. Once O switch to extended, that's when they score me. 😩
For these videos tutorial specifically, I watch the whole match. With the settings I use, it takes maybe a half hour or so to watch it.
In my normal/personal saves, it varies. I try to watch as full many as I can, but if there's a match where I get a red card and go down 2-0 I'll sim or maybe if it's a cup game against a minnow. Or if I just want to finish the season lol
The FM Sean Dyche 😂
The more I play with Luton the more I realize that man is really on to something
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymakerDyche for the English National Team 😂
thnx for another one great video
You're welcome!
Another great tactical video, however just my opinion would not put pressing on the highest notch against Arsenal. Would invite them more on your own half to have more space to counter Into. Now it's more a lower gegenpress tactic.
For a defensive tactic in my mind its more holding shape don't press that often and make sure to have numerical advantage in midfield and defensive against opponents.
This is a more towards a balanced tactic as you are playing at home makes sense.
Totally fair counter point(s). I liked our threats going forward for the most part; at least in a match like that the fact we were providing any threat was fine with me lol. As for the press, since you mention it, it is like a gegenpress but lower. I hadn't really thought about it like that and, in fairness, my thought process (that hopefully came across in the video) was more "I don't want them to have time on the ball so they can carve us up" rather than "let's use a gegenpress" even if the result/instructions are the same
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Yes it works right, you play at home so it's a good tactical choice to press the opponent to have less time on the ball. But it's not defensive in my perspective if you go defensive you go with 2 VC against 1 SC 3 against 2 SC and have at least 1 VMC hold shape and counter and press left often. The only thing I am curious about now here with the counter-press is if you had to go still all notches to the right? I only do that when I really need to secure a goal curious how 4 notches would have impacted the match. For the rest, a lot of good points are well explained in a great style for players to learn from as always class ❤
@@akkermanrik Hmmm, that'd be an intersting test to try with the counter press/lower notches versus what I did. For regroup, I liked the idea that if we lose the ball on a direct pass or something up the field towards their goal, that the players get back in their shape rather than chasing the ball and leaving gaps.
And thanks for the discussion by the way 👍. I always try to frame my video/tactic stuff in a way that you can at least see the reasoning behind what I do, even if it may not something you agree with/would do yourself
hey great video, I would like to make a suggestion since we are talking about defensive tactics, one thing that i never quite understood how to utilize is pressing traps or pressing in general, the combination line of engagment and defensive line + the trigger pressing Opposition instruction, how could i understand what is the best approach to this, is it depending on my players or depends on the opponent, if this is a deep enough topic to cover in a video or just a reply :)
that's an awesome suggestion, it'd probably make for a really good video so maybe I can do something on it!! In the short term, you could really change it for each team that you come up against. As a rudimentary example, in this video I play a high defensive line, but what if I was playing Leicester? Someone like Jamie Vardy would thrive on getting in behind high defensive lines so that may not be the best strategy (or he did at least back in the day haha). So don't feel like you have to keep your tactic the same exact thing for every match, feel free to adjust from match to match, and even while the match is going on.
Great vid bud, this is the exact kind of content/tactic I'm looking for. Want to take a lower league team to the top. Do you have any player instructions for your team? Think I might just plug it in and play.
Nope, no player instructions! So you can add them in as you see, in case you want to customize it further. Let me know how the tactic is going for you!
Possible to start going over specific tactics like the 4-4-2? I know you use it here but if you went over more generic things such as goal scoring options, differences with shorter vs more direct passing, how to hold a lead/chase a lead etc during the courses of a match, I think that’d be incredible!
I think I may start doing some of that; since some formations lend themselves to certain styles better than others
Next how to beat a defensive tactic 😅, but thank you your videos help a lot.
Stay tuned to when I try this against Man City and John Stones has 8 assists hahaha
Great video, gracias!
thank you!
The homie!
Ur example shows, in my opinion, the biggest mistake most of players do when they wonna play more defensive/underdog style because, in the end, football is a game of scoring goals. So the first question at creating a tactic should be how does my defense lead to goals because even if u concede 0 goals over an entire season u propably end up in the relegation zone if u also score 0 goals.
My best, or at least, most successfull tactic so far was with my FC Augsburg save. I was playing a 4-2-4 that relied heavy on gegenpressing and relentless attacks. typical Jürgen Klopp heavy metal football. Even though i scored a lot i also conceded nearly as much so in the following season i replaced one striker with a halfback and made a 4-3-3 out of it that, in posession became a 3-2-5. to further boost my defense i stopped forcing counters and lowered the tempo. So my "defense tactic" was to never let the opponent have the ball. in the end i won the Bundesliga and the cup with a record of 13 clean sheets in a row and 22 clean sheets in total.
I love the idea of defensive strategies not strictly about you're team being defensive; it's about creating a strategy to not let the opponent score, whatever that may be. This is starting to blur the lines into the philsophical aspect of tactics (which i love btw lol) but I would consider your tactic defensive as well. Since the argument could be made that possessing the ball is the greatest form of defense (since the opponent cannot score that way)
4 - 3 - 3
POSSESSION GAME✅️
FASTEST COUNTER✅️
FASTER COUNTER✅️
FLASH COUNTER✅️
QUICK COUNTER✅️
LONG BALL✅️
OUT WIDE✅️
Philosophy Combination :
TOTAL FOOTBALL + TOTAL SOCCER
GEGENPRESS + KICK & RUSH
GEGENPRESS + BLITZKRIEG
GEGENPRESS + TIKI TAKA
KICK & RUSH + TIKI TAKA
BLITZKRIEG + TIKI TAKA
TIKI TAKA + BLITZING
TIKI TAKA + BLITZEN
TIKI TAKA + BLITZER
BLITZING + BLITZEN
BLITZEN + BLITZER
BLITZER + BLITZ
TANGO + GINGA
TANGO + BLITZ
GINGA + BLITZ
could u do a video on set pieces? love ur breakdowns of tactics and roles but i have zero clue wat to do in my set pieces.
hmmm, I don't think I have any upcoming that personally deal with set pieces but maybe I can do some research into trying to find a good video to make on the topic. Thanks for the suggestion!
I do love myself some good defensive tactics
My favorite stat is that possession stat at the end haha. Arsenal had almost 70% of the ball I think lol. I think their defenders all had high ratings because they completed so many passes to each other
thats why i born to play fm , in a "defensive way "
Personally I am a fan of the regroup instruction and low press, but while I did like your video, I can't help but notice that a low block and playing cautious, while playing a high line, is as defensive as it gets. It makes me wonder, if you would be able to make the defensive or even the very defensive instructions work. I think the Match engine is simply not capable of making a Catenaccio or park the bus tactic viable and I tried hard. Would be interesting to see, if you could pull it off.
man these are all great points/counter points! I guess my thought process was trying to play defensive while still offering something going forward (but I geuss at that point, it's like are you playing defensive or are you playing a counter?). But anyway, I thought the instructions offered a nice middle ground to what I was trying to do. That was probably more than you wanted haha, but thanks for the discussion!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I think you did a great job in offering that, but it is true that based on the title I was hoping for a park the bus approach 😄 If only for the fact that playing defensively and conceding ten seconds later has become such a meme.
Everything is adaptable, but how could you have this nicely done without wingers? I thought of a 3-5-2 since my fullbacks can play there but then I think it would leave a not good amount of cover on the wings, is there a good alternative?
That's a good question; what I've been working with recently is the "trap inside" team instruction. That tells your team to funnel the opposition into the cental areas as they're building up possession.
So with your 352, the wingbacks will stay wide and force the ball into the center of the field, which is good since that's where the strength of your formation is. Your weakness is out on the flanks, so limit the time you give the opponent out there. That may be a nice workaround instead of having traditional wingers like in a 442.
Of course, that's all theorertical haha but it may give you a starting point. Hope that helps! And thanks for the question!
Wait for attacking one
fm is looking overwhelming rn has anyone got a guide to make it simpler
I didn’t see an anchor man 🌚
I think I know why we lost the match ☠