PP-19 BIZON, Video Gaming’s most popular SMG

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @PolenarTactical
    @PolenarTactical Год назад +6825

    *Wait, this isn't the MP5*

    • @Acclamator44
      @Acclamator44 Год назад +100

      agreed
      edit: maybe though the integrally supressed MP5?

    • @Snack-Sized-Femboy
      @Snack-Sized-Femboy Год назад +135

      I think the vector is currently the most popular.

    • @yourbifriendaspen3629
      @yourbifriendaspen3629 Год назад +26

      ​@@Snack-Sized-Femboyit's definitely my personal favorite

    • @SUcC..
      @SUcC.. Год назад +3

      @@Snack-Sized-Femboynope

    • @shooteveryday1841
      @shooteveryday1841 Год назад +89

      You typed MP7 incorrectly

  • @wishuhadmyname
    @wishuhadmyname Год назад +4650

    Thank you GT for finally show us your PP

  • @JimIBobIJones
    @JimIBobIJones Год назад +830

    The Bizon and P90 are products of a time where design was focused around the concept of urban anti-terrorism. I.e. short, intense deployments. You realistically won't need to reload either "in the field" ever in their intended use case scenarios - so the gimmicky loading isn't really a trade-off at all.

    • @KayoMichiels
      @KayoMichiels Год назад

      Not for the P90: it was (initially) designed so that tank crews or truck drivers have a means to defend themselves... ruclips.net/video/ejkHVAgzQ7U/видео.html

    • @Ник-л1ь
      @Ник-л1ь Год назад +62

      A high density of fire and a 9x18 cartridge is a good combination

    • @deltaiv4060
      @deltaiv4060 Год назад +15

      It was not made for anti-terrorism, but for cops to replace aksu and for collectors (armoured car guard) - cause bison form-factor is more accurate on every day basis when u wil use it once in a life time.

    • @JimIBobIJones
      @JimIBobIJones Год назад +84

      @@deltaiv4060 It was literally commissioned by the ministry of internal affairs. Whether it saw use in other roles doesn't change the fact that the design was with anti-terrorist deployment in mind.

    • @NeFjuS
      @NeFjuS Год назад +13

      @@deltaiv4060 what do you think cops do ?

  • @Wolf-zk8ey
    @Wolf-zk8ey Год назад +3234

    Getting a real AN-94 on the channel would be legendary, and thus, most likely impossible...

    • @chiefkeef74
      @chiefkeef74 Год назад +258

      Brandon will get one before then

    • @Cooleyo789
      @Cooleyo789 Год назад +331

      Or an AEK-971

    • @Wolf-zk8ey
      @Wolf-zk8ey Год назад +112

      @@Cooleyo789 ehh there is a fair bit of content on the counter balance recoil system these days thanks to Polenar Tactical and Forgotten Weapons… as opposed to hardly anything on the AN-94.

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky Год назад +13

      Therefore they'll somehow find a way lol

    • @bobleman2792
      @bobleman2792 Год назад +31

      and A-545

  • @AdministrativeResults
    @AdministrativeResults Год назад +429

    Years of MW3 training have led me to this moment...

    • @hunterbradley5550
      @hunterbradley5550 Год назад +26

      The A stands for Administrative Results

    • @Wolf-zk8ey
      @Wolf-zk8ey Год назад +10

      This gun and its magazine made my 12 year old brain a lil confused back in the day.

    • @GarandThumb
      @GarandThumb  Год назад +67

      “VEEE GIT PAIYD?”

    • @erikbukovac5944
      @erikbukovac5944 Год назад +3

      that was not the bizon, it is a similar smg with a helical mag

    • @dkettley3457
      @dkettley3457 Год назад +5

      I still feel robbed that this gun wasn't in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

  • @isiah024militia7
    @isiah024militia7 Год назад +396

    What an absolute unit. I can only pray my PP will ever be half as majestic.

    • @Grayhouselikestitanic1912
      @Grayhouselikestitanic1912 Год назад +9

      Ayo wtf

    • @Wes0602
      @Wes0602 Год назад +11

      Nah man, our pp’s are just as if not are more majestic. We might not have the same fire rate, but we’re sending artillery rounds with our pp’s.

    • @baconflakes3345
      @baconflakes3345 Год назад +1

      @@Wes0602if each round is a droplet of pee, then we actually have mad fire rate and mag capacity, nutting is like our m203

    • @Callsign_Phalanx
      @Callsign_Phalanx Месяц назад

      Wtf is this reply chain

  • @ccompson2
    @ccompson2 Год назад +831

    I'd say it's probably 5th most popular SMG in videogaming, right behind all of HK's lineup

    • @ghillie7948
      @ghillie7948 Год назад +69

      uzi slips in the top 5 aswell and maybe even the mac10. These two along with the 2 hks (mp5 and ump) and the bizon

    • @zoned7609
      @zoned7609 Год назад +63

      If the kriss is modeled properly it's always top3 but some games dont do it justice. P90 is the king still imo tho. FN

    • @AverageGunDesigner
      @AverageGunDesigner Год назад +45

      No.1 is most definitely the MP5 lmao. Though the bizon and P90 both are definitely the most unique in games.

    • @bioforce5
      @bioforce5 Год назад +22

      @@zoned7609 Recent Call of Duty games fucking kill me with how they modeled the Vector. It literally wouldn't function with the sections they removed to keep it legally distinct.

    • @kingsosaa
      @kingsosaa Год назад +18

      I would say top 5 is Ump, MP5, UZI, Criss vector and P90

  • @prdubi
    @prdubi Год назад +646

    Having fired one overseas, the trick to the Bizon helical magazine was using dry graphite lubricant treatment. Basically, it was the graphite lubricant that is used on the Beta CMAG. Once I applied the lubricant liberally like it is done in the Beta C Mag drum, it worked wonderfully and was reliable.

    • @markc2152
      @markc2152 Год назад +43

      Graphite is the best dry lubricant works great when you don’t want dirt dust and debris gunking up the works like wet

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember Год назад +16

      @@markc2152
      Nah, it isn't. Dry ptfe lubricants isn't magnetic and won't accumulate the same way.
      And if you want a locksmith to rip your head off, tell him you use graphite on quality locks.

    • @Spiritofaconure
      @Spiritofaconure Год назад +4

      As soon as I looked out that optic I knew this was def rus made

    • @alharrison1038
      @alharrison1038 Год назад

      How do you apply it?

    • @labrat810
      @labrat810 Год назад +2

      What about dry moly-lube? I'd rather not absorb even more micronized fluoropolymers.

  • @jlee5050
    @jlee5050 Год назад +680

    Aesthetics wise, this one is hands down one of the coolest weapons I've ever seen

    • @BIGxBOSSxx1
      @BIGxBOSSxx1 Год назад +11

      Looks like something out of a Star Wars movie, in the best way possible

    • @jasonlong9196
      @jasonlong9196 Год назад +8

      is just a gud defense SMG based on high capacity and decent dmg
      Or aka Pocket LMG

    • @sebittyseb4481
      @sebittyseb4481 Год назад +6

      Pocket lmgs are the best

    • @arya31ful
      @arya31ful 8 месяцев назад

      Always thought so, then a part of my mind also told me this is basically a blowback Krinkov with sausage mag.

  • @herknorth8691
    @herknorth8691 Год назад +764

    Let's take a moment to appreciate that GT not only sourced an ultra-rare Russki subgun for our pleasure, but also found some 29 round helical mags so that he could run it with his real, real fast trigger finger on YT.

    • @ViquelOoste
      @ViquelOoste Год назад +6

      Aahhahaha

    • @tdgchan
      @tdgchan Год назад +11

      Yes, I love how the PP-19 semi-auto works, but I like even more this *more semi-auto* PP-19

    • @waynerohde1036
      @waynerohde1036 Год назад

      I thought it had 64 round mags

    • @herknorth8691
      @herknorth8691 Год назад

      @@waynerohde1036 Sssshhh! They'll hear you!

    • @Originalantithesis
      @Originalantithesis 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@herknorth8691 as someone who knows nothing about gun laws, why is it they can't mention the mag size? Or was that a joke of some form?

  • @garrettpoitras280
    @garrettpoitras280 Год назад +548

    The bizon mag would make for an excellent backup melee weapon

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Год назад

      Amongst other things the Russian army may enjoy 😂
      🍆

    • @CLRvision54
      @CLRvision54 Год назад +8

      I thought the same, but I would just throw it and then throw the gun.

    • @Kawka1122
      @Kawka1122 Год назад +43

      Throwing your gun is always faster then reload.

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky Год назад +5

      @@Kawka1122 this one would at least be true!

    • @22buran
      @22buran Год назад +4

      Or a pipe bomb

  • @Penryck
    @Penryck Год назад +161

    I would love to see a direct comparison of the PP-19 to the Calico. Both helical mag subgun/pcc platforms in 9mm diameter cartridges

    • @a.k47-74
      @a.k47-74 Год назад +27

      Someone get Ian to bring his.

  • @wonderfred
    @wonderfred Год назад +436

    I remember playing the very first Ghost Recon over 20 years ago and I saw the silhouette of the Bizon and I thought the mag was a grenade launcher so I ran it on one of the missions. To my disappointment it was just a SMG or whatever. Still have a grudge against it all these years later.

    • @StoicWarfare
      @StoicWarfare Год назад +27

      The originals were legendary. I wish they would reimplement the team command on the map

    • @BaronSicilian
      @BaronSicilian Год назад +9

      Не обижайся

    • @KEKCAH
      @KEKCAH Год назад +7

      В syphon filter1 на ps1 был такой пп

    • @doubleutubefan5
      @doubleutubefan5 Год назад +1

      i find your comment funnier than it should be

    • @backpackryan6228
      @backpackryan6228 Год назад +14

      Imagine thinking you brought a GL on a mission when in reality it's just a goofy magazine full of 9Mak 😖

  • @KennethKlingler
    @KennethKlingler Год назад +163

    Is so nice to see the Thumb brothers playing together on a Sunday afternoon.

    • @ulrickts
      @ulrickts Год назад +5

      But Thumb Daddy from Kentucky Ballistics is missing.

  • @Go_Coup
    @Go_Coup Год назад +100

    You guys should do the Zoolander drill: you clockwise clear a perimeter of targets around you without turning right. I believe, in certain regions, it’s called the “flag-your-friends-until-you’re-so-dizzy-that-you-shoot-them drill.”

  • @ianw.9185
    @ianw.9185 Год назад +180

    I've never actually met any of these dudes and yet I still love them an irrationally large amount.

    • @Aquaticphilosophia
      @Aquaticphilosophia Год назад +18

      They are obnoxiously lovable. This is what all of our friend groups would have been like had everyone not been mentally castrated by propaganda war.

    • @chris30555
      @chris30555 Год назад +14

      It's called a parasocial relationship , maybe you should look into it.

    • @Aquaticphilosophia
      @Aquaticphilosophia Год назад

      @@chris30555 nah these dudes are just way funnier than any other gun channel

    • @Aquaticphilosophia
      @Aquaticphilosophia Год назад +5

      @@chris30555 don’t get me wrong. I love my parasocial relationships, I have even done podcasts about parasocial relationships with people who I have parasocial relationships with

    • @WhuDhat
      @WhuDhat Год назад

      Fr, wish I had friend like them

  • @laskalives
    @laskalives Год назад +38

    Dad joke for the day: What did the buffalo say to his kid when he left for work?
    "Bizon"

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Год назад +1

      It's an okay joke.
      You still get a prize 🎖️

  • @shaneallen6413
    @shaneallen6413 Год назад +13

    As a fellow non-ambiturner I'm envious of how quickly you three managed to make the three point turn during the second drill.

    • @joshuasterling2144
      @joshuasterling2144 Год назад

      Did you at least manage to kill the prime minister of Malaysia?

  • @cuddlicalf4854
    @cuddlicalf4854 Год назад +65

    For reloads on the bizon, its a little counter intuitive but holding the mag further forward lets you get a more positive hold on the hooks, which in turn helps keep the rear in alignment when inserting the mag.

  • @BattleBrickState
    @BattleBrickState Год назад +427

    Mike is just slowly growing his love for Russian weapons and i love it

    • @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76
      @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 Год назад +11

      somewhere around 60K russian and ukranian types live near to his new digs. It's to be expected

    • @FLAIR__
      @FLAIR__ Год назад +33

      Russian weapons are so cool honestly

    • @karantikoo9302
      @karantikoo9302 Год назад +23

      ​@@FLAIR__now some ppl will get offended and say "nooo it's a Ukrainian made bla bla😂

    • @Ripa-Moramee
      @Ripa-Moramee Год назад +2

      Wdym? The ak-105 is his most favourite weapon and it's been like that for a while now.

    • @BattleBrickState
      @BattleBrickState Год назад

      @@Ripa-Moramee u think u dunno about that ? I'm talking about the overall guns he's been making videos about

  • @thomasleonard8550
    @thomasleonard8550 Год назад +14

    i mainly love this gun because of the cylindrical mag, killzone was my favorite shooter and the bad guys there had cylindrical mags on all their guns and even an SMG reminiscent of this too

  • @josephlane1614
    @josephlane1614 Год назад +256

    I can't imagine how difficult it was to block it at 29 rounds.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Год назад +80

      Extremely difficult and definitely something they 100% did.

    • @jdstark24
      @jdstark24 Год назад +1

      Why would they have to pin the mag? Aren't high cap mags like 60 round pmags available in his area?

    • @owomaster697
      @owomaster697 Год назад +7

      ​@@jdstark24they are talking about a RUclips rule

  • @epbmx4
    @epbmx4 Год назад +18

    Also hats off to Charlie and Micah for always having awesome hoodies.... Molchat Doma is always a good mood

    • @noahnewcomer5180
      @noahnewcomer5180 Год назад +5

      Russian Doomer music>>>>>

    • @epbmx4
      @epbmx4 Год назад +6

      @@noahnewcomer5180 somehow whenever Molchat Doma plays, I always end up in a track suit

    • @Licherous
      @Licherous Год назад +4

      had to scroll too far to find this comment

  • @jamesscott2894
    @jamesscott2894 Год назад +24

    Syphon Filter (where they label it as the "Biz-2") was one of my fav late game SMGs

    • @Playbound
      @Playbound 8 месяцев назад +3

      Nostalgia 😢

    • @Bori4ello
      @Bori4ello 4 месяца назад

      It was in first SF right?

  • @JohnDoe-go3kv
    @JohnDoe-go3kv Год назад +103

    No one does shooting montages better than you do, those intros are always so damn crisp.

    • @sportsman48
      @sportsman48 Год назад +2

      Micah in videograghy is the best

    • @JohnDoe-go3kv
      @JohnDoe-go3kv Год назад

      @@sportsman48 I keep forgetting to sub to his channel but this post finally got me to, Micah is the man, thanks for the reminder.

  • @kayzejones
    @kayzejones Год назад +111

    The Bizon was mostly used by russian police, one of the jobs it was built for. Don't remember if FSB used them, but their favorite until the Vityas was a shortbarrel [AS Val] VSS, called the [SR3]m vikhr
    Edit: SR3 vikhr AND its modernised version, SR3M

    • @ChaZcaTriX
      @ChaZcaTriX Год назад +2

      I've seen it a few times at police posts next to ministries.

    • @LaughingMan44
      @LaughingMan44 Год назад

      How is the SR23m a short barrel VSS? It's just a SR23m

    • @maskito4256
      @maskito4256 Год назад

      It's called sr3m, not sr3m vikhr. You're thinking of sr3 vikhr

    • @kayzejones
      @kayzejones Год назад

      Oh, my bad. Ive just always put them in the same family. Same magazine, same round... i mean, its heavily based on the AS Val, the twin of the VSS. I made the mistake of using the sniper config as the example.

    • @АлександрАлексеев-б6ю
      @АлександрАлексеев-б6ю Месяц назад

      In region 11 (Komi Republic) the Bison is in the service of bailiffs. Patrol service: SR 2 Veresk (heather) and AKSu 74. At least in 2001-2010. I don’t know how now. Possibly removed from service.(Google Translate)

  • @ASTANA_FBI
    @ASTANA_FBI Год назад +42

    Проблема этого оружия в том что когда его магазин пустеет то теряется баланс при стрельбе. Крепление магазина расшатывается со временем , ну и сам магазин тружно заряжать и такой шнековый магазин очень дорого стоит. Кстати на вооружении у Северной Кореи есть АК-74 с шнековым магазином, видел такие у их пограничников 😃

    • @sixpowers2871
      @sixpowers2871 Год назад +4

      У мужика на спине молчат дома

    • @winrargamer
      @winrargamer Год назад

      @@sixpowers2871 И чего? Капитан Очевидность что ли?

    • @_b_x_b_1063
      @_b_x_b_1063 Год назад

      ​@@sixpowers2871так эта группа относительно популярна, хотя у нас очень малоизвестна

  • @1483TBird
    @1483TBird Год назад +284

    Back in my day tech9, Uzi, & MP5 were the SMGs of games

    • @eljefeamericano4308
      @eljefeamericano4308 Год назад +9

      Gangster.

    • @KameSennin4209
      @KameSennin4209 Год назад +16

      Aw shit, here we go again...

    • @FUBARguy107
      @FUBARguy107 Год назад +13

      No Syphon Filter for you? Came out in 1999 and had the PP19 Bizon available.

    • @1483TBird
      @1483TBird Год назад +3

      @@FUBARguy107 it also had the MP7

    • @sayfolman7752
      @sayfolman7752 Год назад +1

      Let The Old Retired Go For Modern SIG MPX

  • @StonedSpagooter
    @StonedSpagooter Год назад +246

    If you have a Bizon and a P90 you should really only need to use mag from each to get the job done

  • @orcabolgsweetie2430
    @orcabolgsweetie2430 Год назад +1

    Love seeing someone rocking a Molchat Doma hoody. Nice one Micah

  • @Swisba
    @Swisba Год назад +29

    Watching Garand thumb go to town on a weapon system just always brings a smile on my face ear to ear

  • @euancruickshank9252
    @euancruickshank9252 Год назад +29

    Its nice to see Garand Thumb bring his little brother on the channel more

  • @eazye619
    @eazye619 Месяц назад +1

    Here after Palmetto announced the collab with the Stuff and Things to turn their AK-V into the AK-V STizon in 9mm

  • @playboyr5393
    @playboyr5393 Год назад +46

    The Bizon was primarily made in 9x18 Makarov but there were some made in 9mm para and 7.62x25 Tokarev for possible export sales. The 9mm para, if I recall used a 64rd drum.

    • @bmw328igearhead
      @bmw328igearhead Год назад +25

      A pp-19 in 7.62x25 would be spicy indeed

    • @joelstiffarm2996
      @joelstiffarm2996 Год назад +2

      They exported to DPRK.

    • @labrat810
      @labrat810 Год назад +7

      ​@@bmw328igearhead .30 Carbine ballistics, P90 capacity? Yes, please.

    • @bmw328igearhead
      @bmw328igearhead Год назад +1

      @@labrat810 No wonder The Bizon has always been a video game GOTO firearm eh? Snapper of a round with a bottomless mag, giggidy goo!

    • @CircaSriYak
      @CircaSriYak Год назад +1

      Can you imagine this thing in 7.62 tokarev? dang...

  • @Followme556
    @Followme556 Год назад +43

    I have to say, it's good to see you showing your targets as you shoot now. That has really irked me about many guntuber channels for years.

  • @bencezavarko7312
    @bencezavarko7312 Год назад +6

    What I think that could have made the reloading easier is to keep it the way it is but make the front mount spring loaded. So you wouldn't need to be that precise how to insert the mag. Just push it upwards and be done with it

  • @kennykunie6660
    @kennykunie6660 Год назад +20

    My favorite gun in Syphon Filter way back in the day

  • @mikedicewrites
    @mikedicewrites Год назад +49

    Loved using something like this thing in Killzone 2. As one of the fastest guns in the game, you really felt every shot.

    • @Preussenpenner
      @Preussenpenner Год назад +10

      The guns in that game all felt so good. Hefty and brutal, like the game actually brought out how violent it would be to shoot these guns irl

    • @mikedicewrites
      @mikedicewrites Год назад +2

      @@Preussenpenner Facts

    • @ryanadams2671
      @ryanadams2671 Год назад +4

      Hellghast AR with the underbarrel shotgun was my go to but all of the weapons in KZ2 felt fantastic.

  • @TimParker-Chambers
    @TimParker-Chambers Год назад +2

    12:00 I remember reading a shooting magazine in the early 90's, which had a review on the Calico, and a line in particular always stuck in my mind: Your finger will get tired before the magazine runs dry...
    I'm guessing it's the same with this beast 👍👍👍👍

  • @IrradiatedLimes
    @IrradiatedLimes Год назад +7

    Sergei asking “did we get paid” is so damn topical with the wagner revolt

  • @Username_8886
    @Username_8886 Год назад +51

    Imagine if Kyle aka a FPS Russia, was still able to make gun videos, a collaboration with Garand Thumb and Admin would be good so gnarly.

    • @odinz6600
      @odinz6600 Год назад

      Big come back fir fps Russia?

    • @Username_8886
      @Username_8886 Год назад +6

      @@odinz6600 I wish. But he’s a felon now and can’t own any firearms

    • @luislongoria6621
      @luislongoria6621 Год назад +12

      A new face behind the balaclava?

    • @zzmr_stretchzz8772
      @zzmr_stretchzz8772 Год назад +3

      @@Username_8886 unless laws change, if i remember people are trying to make it so weed related crimes cant effect gun onwership

    • @droganovic6879
      @droganovic6879 Год назад

      @@Username_8886 he can't *own* them, but does the law also prevent him from going to a range and renting a gun? Or going to a range and shooting his friends guns?

  • @mastermaniac1911
    @mastermaniac1911 Год назад +1

    Gabe Logan sees that one handed bizon. He's smiling down from heaven.

  • @dustins4921
    @dustins4921 Год назад +57

    Imagine a world where the Bizon took over the popularity of the AR 15. We'd have fleshlight cerakoted mags, pringle can cerakote mags, the options are endless.

    • @scottie2hottie_
      @scottie2hottie_ Год назад +1

      That’s an AK style gun not an AR

    • @backpackryan6228
      @backpackryan6228 Год назад

      I want a mag that's half helical 9x18 and half pornoslut Fleshlight. Would be great in the field 🤣

  • @kriceis
    @kriceis Год назад +41

    Another reason Bizon got replaced by Vityaz is inability of Russian special forces (Speznaz, FSB, MVD etc.) to cope with weight balance of the gun changing depending on fullness of the magazine

  • @deckert618
    @deckert618 Год назад +1

    I once owned a Makarov in 9x18, but I gave it to my little brother, as he's basically a girl, and it was perfect for xim/xer.

  • @mefford2692
    @mefford2692 Год назад +27

    I must say, your PP performed way better than I thought it would! Wish I could hold it, and get some time to shoot it.

    • @beckett29
      @beckett29 Год назад +3

      🤔

    • @totenfurwotan4478
      @totenfurwotan4478 Год назад +3

      Why on earth do people use their actual picture with their child In it as their RUclips account ?

    • @rjthomasindyusa
      @rjthomasindyusa Год назад +2

      I want to personally thank you for bringing back the kind of comments that made this channel so great……

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger Год назад +1

      @@totenfurwotan4478 You're assuming it's his child.

    • @Devin7Eleven
      @Devin7Eleven Год назад +1

      dafuq man

  • @Landon.trippy
    @Landon.trippy Год назад +38

    I love how every creator in this community is slowly going more full auto over time- Truly Based

  • @jonmcrae7839
    @jonmcrae7839 Год назад

    The "A for Administrative Results" bit had me laughing so hard, my beer came out my nose! This is why I love you guys so f**king much haha!!!

  • @jordanhorst6
    @jordanhorst6 Год назад +20

    i feel like reloads could be easily improved by some little angled ramp like pieces that would direct the tabs into place so that all the user would have to do is slide the mag forward, kind of like a flared magwell.

  • @lolcatsravenight
    @lolcatsravenight Год назад +36

    6,244 hours of CS:GO means I've never been more excited for a video release. This was an awesome video!! Thank you Dr Garand Thumb!

    • @justryan5697
      @justryan5697 Год назад +1

      Bro you need help lol

    • @lolcatsravenight
      @lolcatsravenight Год назад +5

      @@justryan5697 The dudes who have 10k hours in just Dust 2 alone need help. I need more kills on my stat-track pp bizon

    • @shawnfoogle920
      @shawnfoogle920 Год назад +1

      bro i had 15k hours and i stopped playing years ago because my steam and google account somehow was hacked ffs. best skin i lost was a statract factory new awp lightning strike. god forbid you go look up the price and tell me i refuse to at this point...

    • @cora2887
      @cora2887 Год назад

      ​@shawnfoogle920 yeah last few years skin prices have sky rocketed. There are skins i used to have that were 20 bucks that are like 120+ now. And everything only went up with the cs2 announcement.

    • @enasnI99
      @enasnI99 Год назад

      @@lolcatsravenight Dust is love, Dust is life

  • @n8strength
    @n8strength Год назад +79

    Little known fact, the Bizon magazine also doubles as an M203 grenade launcher.

  • @KealeyOnCars
    @KealeyOnCars Год назад +5

    Gabe Logan prevented a Syphon Filter outbreak with one of these & a taser. We must never forget his memory.

    • @InstructorRandy
      @InstructorRandy Год назад +2

      The first game I bought for PlayStation. And so began my Covid larp.

  • @Karelwolfpup
    @Karelwolfpup Год назад +24

    I remember the first time I saw this thing was in the game Syphon Filter, and I was like "wtf, what the hell is this gun?" next day coming home from school I stopped by my local Waterstones and bought a Janes Guns Recognition guide and found it in there. Always liked this funky, if troubled, weapon.

    • @gman3976
      @gman3976 Год назад +6

      Yooo that’s the first time I’ve seen that game (Syphon Filter) mentioned in a loooong time. Certified OG right here lol ^

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +5

      @@gman3976 yesh, I am an old, old wolfpup XDD back in my day we had co-op splitscreen for multiplayer, and your internet took eight years to load pornography XDD

    • @gman3976
      @gman3976 Год назад +3

      ⁠@@KarelwolfpupI remember those days well my friend lol! Good times!

    • @Kingsnorelax
      @Kingsnorelax Год назад +4

      If you arent tasing people to flames all game, have you really played Syphon Filter?

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +4

      @@Kingsnorelax All hail the Mighty Tazer! Cooker of meats and meatheaded goons!

  • @jameslarsen3658
    @jameslarsen3658 Месяц назад +1

    Watching this on Veteran's Day, 2024, the day that PSA just announced their PSA AK-V STizon! 15:40

  • @michaelboyle9512
    @michaelboyle9512 Год назад +4

    It's very admirable that you support your sons RUclips career so strongly that you would create a successful channel to invite him onto.

  • @nahCyzar0520
    @nahCyzar0520 Год назад +6

    Fun fact: The creator of the weapon is Victor Kalashnikov (son of engineer Mikhail Kalashnikov, creator of the AK-47).

  • @jonaslken5383
    @jonaslken5383 Год назад +3

    Hello there Mr. Thumb, I find great interest in your Urban survival and Becoming deadly in the mountains series. Although your videos have coverd a wide range of subjects so far, I still miss a couple of subjects that I find to be crutial in survival in an anarchist enviorment. Here are my suggestions which I hope you can cover, love your content by the way, amazing stuff.
    1) Team communication over coms/in person (as well as non verbal)
    2) Team movement
    3) Surveillance/counter surveillance
    I could not come up with more, I might edit this over time.
    Keep up the gud work Mr. Thumb

  • @CottonHill91
    @CottonHill91 Год назад +6

    15:55 "that's a 3000 dollar mag" had me rolling

  • @chrisburckhard9122
    @chrisburckhard9122 Год назад +8

    My wife will love this video. She's a big fan of Smol PP.

  • @AramK
    @AramK 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bison is designed to be shot with steel armor piercing ammo for counter terrorism. It’s not really designed for long prolonged shooting scenarios. Quick and fast job.

  • @Sh-epard
    @Sh-epard Год назад +53

    So much StA-11 SMG vibes from Killzone 2 and 3🖤.
    For being such weapon it was a solid choice both in the campaign and online, aaaah the memories😄
    I always like their choice to use real life weapons and rework them a little bit to fit the Killzone's universe.

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +11

      Glory to the Autarch! Helghan Lives! Visari Forever!

    • @patrickbateman3146
      @patrickbateman3146 Год назад +7

      ​@@Karelwolfpup helghan did nothing wrong

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +4

      @@patrickbateman3146 Truer words never said.

    • @lulz4lulz
      @lulz4lulz Год назад +5

      Killzone was the shit, I gotta go back and replay now for nostalgia.

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +4

      @@lulz4lulz Brian Cox hit it out the park as Scolar Visari. Just a pity what they did with the franchise.

  • @danielskrivan6921
    @danielskrivan6921 Год назад +11

    10:45 I think a better system would be if there were grooves along the bottom rail that the magazine hooks could slide along until it hits the pins. Then, the procedure is simply find one groove, rock it over, slide it forward, rock it up. Finding a groove is easier than finding a pin, and everything else is anchored on that.

    • @al1sa920
      @al1sa920 Год назад

      The easiest solution are just bigger grooves and bigger more square'ish pins. So it would be easier to locate them while wearing gloves / in dark environments / while not looking

  • @danvalentine2072
    @danvalentine2072 Год назад +1

    Thumbs up for the intro! ❤

  • @thesuperjank6109
    @thesuperjank6109 Год назад +8

    Thought I'd never see one of them this casually covered in a video. wonderful

  • @janeleonard985
    @janeleonard985 Год назад +5

    If you can get a gunsmith to do it, I can think of ways to address the two most blatant problems you complained about.
    Changing mags: Make a new handguard that has flares to guide that nose to its pegs.
    Loading bullets into mags: Make a modified front plate for that metal mag (12:05) that instead of a lock has a ratchet system (and maybe fold-out wings to give you better leverage turning it).

  • @machina_spirit
    @machina_spirit Год назад

    Mike’s somewhat confused delivery of ‘lemongrass July’ cracked me up for some reason 😂

  • @zoinkedshaggy
    @zoinkedshaggy Год назад +8

    No way he got his hands on a bizon and the correct dot. So elite

  • @williamjeffersonclinton69
    @williamjeffersonclinton69 Год назад +5

    I have been commenting for this firearm on Brandon videos for like 3 years, on and off. Never thought GarandThumb would be the one to do it.
    Been loving the Bizon since I was 14 and played Syphon Filter.

    • @gman3976
      @gman3976 Год назад +2

      Love seeing the old heads (like me lol) all coming out of the woodwork to reference this classic game lol. Good times!

  • @mercenaryTendencies
    @mercenaryTendencies Год назад +1

    Freedom Fighters and Operation Flashpoint were my introduction to this thing. Good times.

  • @Buck3366
    @Buck3366 Год назад +31

    Always liked the Calico M955A as an obscure movie gun. Both that and the Bizon have odd magazine systems.

  • @spetsnaz892
    @spetsnaz892 Год назад +5

    OK, I officially need a Molchat Doma sweater

  • @JONES300offi
    @JONES300offi Год назад +7

    In cod ghosts the nixon was my favorite rifle hands down. Nice to actually see what the real one is all about

  • @djwoody1649
    @djwoody1649 Год назад +6

    I noticed the Molchat Doma hoodie there, doubt there would be a silent house with you three in it. Great video as always and a fascinating gun. I never noticed that the front of the magazine turns as you fire before.

  • @RidwanR
    @RidwanR Год назад

    That low-key turning left Zoolander reference...absolutely brilliant! hahaha

  • @Kochie11
    @Kochie11 Год назад +96

    I wish there was a civilian version of this. I really like the idea of having a compact weapon without a magazine that just sticks out, but is in fact, part of the profile of the gun.

    • @scowler7200
      @scowler7200 Год назад +16

      Closest we get is the Kel-tec P50.

    • @mhymyk4022
      @mhymyk4022 Год назад +3

      There's a guy by the name of FeistyCrawfish / Chitin Defense that makes kits. From his words it's about $1600 when said and done

    • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
      @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce Год назад +7

      And isn't chambered in some really weird expensive spicy 22

    • @kingkazuma2239
      @kingkazuma2239 Год назад +4

      AR 5.7 upper

    • @alexb7641
      @alexb7641 Год назад +2

      Calico, just put the proper tension on the mag spring before you put a bad review out on RUclips

  • @TacShooter
    @TacShooter Год назад +10

    I used to use the Bizon as a suppressed LMG in Operation Flashpoint: Resistance.

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +1

      oh yeah, you could get one off the Spetsnatz guys if Viki bushwhacks them on the first mission

    • @adamg574
      @adamg574 Год назад +2

      Best game of all time. I always enjoyed trying to take out the entire spetsnaz team with just the shotgun in the opening mission.

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад +2

      @@adamg574 can't imagine that was easy with the Koszlice being a two shot break action XD

    • @adamg574
      @adamg574 Год назад +1

      @@Karelwolfpup oh yeah it was hard af 😂 was always fun too at the very beginning running over a Russian soldier with the car, picking up a an AK and trying to repel off the invading force solo. An exercise in frustration mostly, but fun.

    • @Karelwolfpup
      @Karelwolfpup Год назад

      @@adamg574 I remember one thing I disliked about Resistance was the looting, was just too difficult to do properly with the inventory system as it was. I mean, it was marginally faster getting your guys to pick up weapons, but jeebus...

  • @simonmatveev
    @simonmatveev Год назад +2

    3:46 Mmm, surprised to see Molchat Doma hoodie with cyrillics - kinda vibe

  • @Kyle-rq1sr
    @Kyle-rq1sr Год назад +14

    First experience with the Bizon was in the Firearms mod for Half-Life 1. It did good work.

    • @hell_march6652
      @hell_march6652 Год назад

      I used to load that and run heavy armor and just spew rounds everywhere lol. Occasionally I would use the anaconda and snipe with it lol.

    • @cjborton
      @cjborton Год назад

      Always found the gameplay in that mod rather lackluster compared to the other offerings like CS and Day of Defeat, but it did have some cool guns. Was also my introduction to the Bizon.

  • @Silentguy_
    @Silentguy_ Год назад +7

    I seriously love the design of the Bizon and I’d love to see a western company make some. Helical mags are definitely unorthodox but IMO the ammo capacity far outweighs the cons while still allowing this thing to be super compact. Even if someone came out with a civilian model, you know for damn sure I’d SBR that thing in a heartbeat

  • @JBCPuppydaddy
    @JBCPuppydaddy Год назад +1

    Holy crap dude I did not expect that thing to be so accurate😮

  • @Drengr19
    @Drengr19 Год назад +6

    Man I wish GT would release more videos a week. Videos and the humor make my day

  • @2WarVet
    @2WarVet Год назад +5

    Finally! I've wanted to see this firearm in real action since I first saw it in Syphon Filter 😊

  • @ryantsup6623
    @ryantsup6623 Год назад

    The bloody sound at 5:29 got me so good :D You cannot escape it

  • @matthewbrown7659
    @matthewbrown7659 Год назад +9

    I would actually be curious to try machining some parts to make that magazine attachment mechanism more intuitive. Rather than two tiny pegs that two tiny hooks grab maybe two ~3/8" conical holes with matching conical points on the front of the magazine so you don't have to be as accurate to line it up. It looks like the latch on the back could use some tweaking as well, even with a regular AK the magazine can fit sloppily enough that the spring loaded catch doesn't hold the magazine properly... with this thing having the front hooked in doesn't even help hold it straight when you rock the back into place. I bet a pretty simple solution could be devised for that as well to make loading a magazine less reliant on fine motor control.

  • @lowtdave
    @lowtdave Год назад +7

    Dude...that opening was amazing. The ability that firearm has to maintain its output of metallic body piercing objects is amazing. I think the rate of fire for that mag size is perfect. Not like, for example, the glock 18 spitting out all its ammo in .25 seconds.
    I really loke this gun.
    Ohhhhhhhh, the kobra,
    I bought one from kalinka optics about 20 years ago and, yeah, it's not good. It's great to have a russian optic on one of my AKs but I finally had to take it off for a primary arms dot.
    I am thinking of keeping the kobra on my saiga12 though? I think it looks pretty slick on top and accuracy past 50 yards is just not important.

  • @Lolisatko
    @Lolisatko Год назад

    Didn't expect to see Micah wearing Molchat Doma hoodie, thumbs up.

  • @tokinrrh5359
    @tokinrrh5359 Год назад +71

    I would do anything to hang out with these guys for a day 🤣

    • @FullSemiAuto357
      @FullSemiAuto357 Год назад

      Write a ridiculous letter about an impossible shooting feat you pulled off as a pre-meth child!

    • @TheQcjoe47
      @TheQcjoe47 Год назад +15

      Just need to have a crazy rare firearm and get in touch with them, then maybe they can fly you over with it for a video shoot.

    • @zachh3541
      @zachh3541 Год назад +3

      Anything??? 🤨🤨🤨 (Honestly, me too)

    • @maxlange5517
      @maxlange5517 Год назад +34

      claim you can shoot a can of coke over 700yards with a .22

    • @stoptrackingourdata8158
      @stoptrackingourdata8158 Год назад +9

      Claim you can hit a .22 cartridge with a can of coke at over 1000 yards.

  • @bulltron8926
    @bulltron8926 Год назад +10

    There are several ways to make the magazine attachment more user friendly.
    A large lug on the mag that fits into a flared socket on the gun.
    And also a flared guide into the latch.
    And as far as the rotating handle on the front of the tube, it could be a folding rotating handle found on chalk-line tools.

  • @garymessina1609
    @garymessina1609 Год назад +1

    Cool weapon cool video thanks Mike and the guys

  • @AndrewonWheels
    @AndrewonWheels Год назад +5

    The G11 is probably one of the funkiest guns, I'd love to see you find one of those!

  • @brentharrington9235
    @brentharrington9235 Год назад +6

    "Tatanka . . .buffalo..." - Kevin Costner

  • @iRgrunt2.7
    @iRgrunt2.7 Год назад

    Dude, I want to know who would win in a flintlock duel: Admin, or Mike.
    The idea:
    1. Have ballistic gel dummies nut-to-butt with the duelists, have each duelist walk a set number of paces.
    2. The duelists (which will be side-by-side) will both face outboard, and fire on said dummies.
    3. May the best man win.

  • @ReubenOaks84
    @ReubenOaks84 Год назад +6

    Absolutely awesome video, despite the corky helical mags it's still an awesome looking sub gun.

  • @gp.5989
    @gp.5989 Год назад +6

    I remember the first time i used this in MW2R I thought the mag was an underslung grenade launcher.

  • @WLS_Churchill
    @WLS_Churchill Год назад

    Admin getting out of the trench and perfectly standing only to fall had me in tears

  • @fell9654
    @fell9654 Год назад +9

    And on that day Micah learned: never meet your heroes

  • @DesertDuc
    @DesertDuc Год назад +8

    Considering the most awkward parts about the helical mag are the reload procedure and the bulkiness with carrying spares, I wonder if it would have been a good idea to try and design the weapon to take both the helix and a stick mag kind of like a Thompson with drums and sticks.
    Have the capacity of the helical mag right from the start but then the speed and ease of the sticks for the reload.
    But then I guess it's overcomplicating things for what is essentially just 2 mags in one. A coupler would get you similar capacity and only offer a slight hindrance by comparison.

    • @westphalianstallion4293
      @westphalianstallion4293 Год назад +2

      I had the same idea seeing it. For an ordonance weapon it would be too complicated. But Tompson and PPSh did it back in the day. The amis never used drums for the military, the russian kind of loved them.
      But for short fire fights while doing bodyguard work, having a 64 round magazine from the start by just grabbing your weapon without anything else is nead.
      But there is a reason why drums never caught on.

    • @sebittyseb4481
      @sebittyseb4481 Год назад +1

      I love drum mags man I don't care what anyone says,they are fucking sick

  • @NorroTaku
    @NorroTaku Год назад

    really liked you guys turning left

  • @xxfloppypillowxx
    @xxfloppypillowxx Год назад +21

    Idk about most popular when there are things like MP5/7 and the Uzi but it is definitely iconic.

    • @Kiamors
      @Kiamors Год назад

      Calico made a helical magazine fed upper for Mac lowers.

  • @Thisisausername556
    @Thisisausername556 Год назад +6

    I’m glad Mike showed the happy switch on his PP.
    #GTNotificationSquad