Is Ice Or Heat Better For Achilles Tendonitis?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • In this video, Maryke explains why ice or cold may be better to use when you have Achilles tendonitis or tendinopathy, why heat isn't that useful, and how to use ice for best effect.
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    Chapters:
    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:00:48 When to use ice for your Achilles injury
    00:02:19 How to use ice for an Achilles injury
    00:02:59 When not to use ice for an Achilles injury
    00:04:44 Why heat is not useful for healing an Achilles injury
    00:07:14 How we can help
    Learn more about what happens in the tendon when you have Achilles tendonitis/tendinopathy: • Why do I Have a Lump i...
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    References:
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    2. [Khan, K. M., Cook, J. L., Kannus, P., Maffulli, N., & Bonar, S. F. (2002). Time to abandon the “tendinitis” myth: painful, overuse tendon conditions have a non-inflammatory pathology.](www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...)
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    4. [Roberts LA, Raastad T, Markworth JF, et al. Post-exercise cold water immersion attenuates acute anabolic signalling and long-term adaptations in muscle to strength training. J Physiol 2015;593(18):4285-301 doi: 10.1113/JP270570 [published Online First: Epub Date]|.](physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.co...)
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Комментарии • 64

  • @TreatMyAchilles
    @TreatMyAchilles  Год назад

    👉 If you wanted to ice for pain relief you can get re-useable ice bags here: geni.us/tAaXMqV
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  • @Vortexy2005
    @Vortexy2005 Год назад

    Love your content

  • @willieboy3011
    @willieboy3011 Год назад +2

    Very interesting point about #1 the relation between amount of pain and degree of injury, #2 when and how often to use ice, #3 chronic pain not necessarily being inflammation, and #4 the relation between heat and circulation regarding the Achilles tendon. My injury has been going on for about 7 months. Inserts only minimal help. Rehab sounds promising.

  • @devrikalacos4440
    @devrikalacos4440 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much, very helpfull video.

  • @dreswan1
    @dreswan1 2 года назад

    Excellent!

  • @stephenjones6902
    @stephenjones6902 Год назад

    Grace info thanks

  • @crofty273
    @crofty273 Год назад

    Thank you ❤

  • @frankconley7630
    @frankconley7630 Год назад

    i love this video. such hopeful outlook .

  • @TheSecretBuster
    @TheSecretBuster 2 года назад

    Thanks for this. Any thoughts / benefits on using the sauna / steam room for achilles injury?

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад +1

      It won’t harm it, but also not make it heal more quickly. But if it makes you feel good and more relaxed, then use it.

  • @maureenbrophy7852
    @maureenbrophy7852 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @elizabethpeterson455
    @elizabethpeterson455 Год назад

    Thank you…not a runner but I’m a regular walker so this is invaluable

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  Год назад

      You're welcome! Alison also shares some tips for walking with Achilles pain in this video - perhaps it helps: ruclips.net/video/A2j-fk9X1G0/видео.html

  • @VLombardi01
    @VLombardi01 Год назад

    Cross friction massage has helped mine

  • @chrismicheles9631
    @chrismicheles9631 2 года назад

    Hi all, working back into running. Would an easy zone 2/3 workout on the elliptical or spin bike constitute a recovery day for the Achilles area following a day of running? Or should a recovery day be a complete rest day of minimal loading. Thanks!

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад

      This will depend on your level of fitness. If you’re relatively fit, then yes doing the bike or elliptical can be used as an easy day. If you’re very unfit, then a complete rest day may be better. But neither of those machines should place too much strain on your Achilles and therefore should be OK.

  • @okamorah8251
    @okamorah8251 Год назад

    Nice video you have. But am now confused. I have swollen ankle/foot from Achilles Tendonitis. You mentioned ice would work if you have pain. For me, I only feel the pain when I walk more than I should. When rested, the ankle is not painful. However, it is very tender when touched at the Achilles Tendon. I only take Tylenol and Advil after I have moved around a lot. I plan on just resting tomorrow through the weekend, raise the foot, use some ice and wrap it up with a snuggle bandage. Would that work? By the way, the ailment just started from no where, no activity of any sort. Thanks for the medical education in your videos.

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  Год назад

      If yours started without any activity then you should get it checked for inflammatory condition like gout or similar.

  • @ChefDuane
    @ChefDuane 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for this. I find cold first then heat seems to work for my plantar fasciitis.

  • @MrMooremelody
    @MrMooremelody 2 года назад

    I've just been told to start isometric holds from my physio and that it may be indeed pain relieving. Is there any truth to this? Also, just before any exercise, is there anything that can be done to reduce the pain? foam roller on the calves? pain relief medication?

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад +1

      The exercises themselves usually works well to reduce pain if they are pitched at the correct level. Isometrics have been shown to reduce pain in patellar tendonitis/tendinopathy but the results for Achilles is a bit mixed - it works for some people and not for others. They should definitely not be making your pain worse - if they are, then you should feed back to your physio as your exercises may have to be changed for a different type. We don't usually advise people to take pain medication. Foam rolling won't do any harm as long as you don't do it forcefully over the injured area, so you can try it and see.

  • @logiconabstractions6596
    @logiconabstractions6596 2 года назад +1

    I actually feel that hot/cold (switching from a bucket of hot to cold water) makes it feel better. It feels less stiff, and the effect does last for an hour or something. I don't know if it helps healing, but it does help with pain/general feel of the area.

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад

      Anything that helps with pain is useful - as long as you also do the rehab that is needed.

    • @elizabethpeterson455
      @elizabethpeterson455 Год назад

      I always thought that heat aggravated inflammation..and that swelling was a sure sign of inflammation….

    • @xxx-lf4lw
      @xxx-lf4lw 11 месяцев назад

      @@elizabethpeterson455 that's true. inflammation is the natural healing process of the body. without inflammation, damage would not be repaired.
      that's why a body part gets red, hot and swollen when it's injured. your body opens the blood vessels more, to get more nutrients in there, dispose damaged cells, and recovery quicker.

  • @Wrestlelesson
    @Wrestlelesson Год назад +1

    If you start to feel pain in the achilles tendon from my experience I say lose some weight and take a long rest and while you resting take or do some yoga and start to stretch your body with stretch exercises and give your body massage treatments

  • @OussamaOussama-vo1yd
    @OussamaOussama-vo1yd 2 года назад +1

    I have a stiff Achilles tendon and when I extend it it hurts after training

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад +1

      That sounds as if you may have Achilles tendinopathy/tendonitis. You can find out more about the treatment for that here: ruclips.net/video/0Hb3FS_xG-A/видео.html

  • @abualzuaree
    @abualzuaree 2 года назад +3

    I'm 5 months into this insertional Achilles tendinitis issue and I still feel it flare up after some physical therapy (single leg heel raises, balance workouts, etc.) But I have gotten better forsure. When is it OK for me to start doing fast twitch workouts like running jumping etc? Should do it anyway to test myself out? Or would that be risking further injury to the Achilles because it does still flare up on me here and there but nothing too drastic

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад +1

      We can’t really tell what is right for you as every case is different and your physio should be providing you with this guidance. But in our experience it’s best to wait until you’ve built a good level of strength (able to do your exercises with weights that equal about 20% of your bodyweight) and completed a full plyometric programme without it causing an increase in your pain. We set different goals for our patients depending on their specific circumstances.
      This is also something that our team of physios can help you with via video call. You can read more about how the online consultations work here: www.treatmyachilles.com/

    • @princec_5670
      @princec_5670 2 года назад

      Use kneesovertoes programs most physios are terrible

    • @abualzuaree
      @abualzuaree 2 года назад

      @@princec_5670 he specializes in knees though? Does he have information on Achilles injuries as well?

    • @princec_5670
      @princec_5670 2 года назад +1

      @@abualzuaree it’s for the entire body so there is no weak links . I ruptured my Achilles and I learned what ever my knees couldn’t handle the force went to my Achilles’ tendon . Having strong knees is crucial for healthy Achilles’ tendon .

    • @princec_5670
      @princec_5670 2 года назад +1

      @@abualzuaree Kneesovertoes coached professional athletes who thought their careers were over after an Achilles’ tendon rupture back into elite fitness .

  • @frgoyohidalgo2803
    @frgoyohidalgo2803 2 года назад

    I just started working out after 2 years. I took it seriously meaning I run on elliptical for an hour with incline. One day, as I was stretching I felt like needles in my heel/ankle. But I thought I pulled a muscle or something. It doesn’t hurt when I walk or run but only when I stretch it with toes pointing up. My chiropractor said it was a tear but listening to you it doesn’t feel like a tear. So my question is can I walk normally? Without running or stretching it too much? I don’t stretch it anymore because it hurts like needles. I am planning on going to a podiatrist soon but I don’t want to aggravate it. What do I do in the mean time? What about taping with Ktapes? I see a lot of videos on taping for Achilles pain but I don’t know if we should do it? Can you talk about taping as a healing helper?

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад

      What you are describing sounds more like you gave one of the little nerves in the back of your ankle a stretch injury, rather than an Achilles injury (but I may be wrong as I've not assessed you). Usually when you have this type of injury, it heals well over time if you just avoid activities that aggravate it (stretch position in your case). If you can walk as normal, and feel no discomfort as walking or after the walk, then it may be OK to continue but again, you should rather ask the person who is in charge of your care as I don't have your full picture and my advice may be inappropriate.
      This is also something that our team of physios can help you with via video call. You can read more about how the online consultations work here: www.treatmyachilles.com/

    • @frgoyohidalgo2803
      @frgoyohidalgo2803 2 года назад

      @@TreatMyAchilles thank you so much. I went to the doctor and got X-rays and I have tendinitis which I suspected. Much better than a tear or broken. Thanks for your quick answer. Now I am anxious to know when I can run again. I am a bit lost with the exercises and how to build up as you say. My doctor only told me not to run yet and so the stretches. I am a little bit down because I love running but I guess I have to wait. I am going to be honest though, I have been suffering with sciatic pain for many years and this Achilles pain feels like needles when I stretch. Could this be a sciatic nerve “extension” pain? I still think I am going to do my sciatic stretches to see if that helps.

  • @pumzanqoma3559
    @pumzanqoma3559 Год назад

    I dont workout. I initially had this issue 2 years back. A friend recommend I drink distilled water for de calcification. To my surprise, it worked. The pain went away after a 3 weeks or so of drinking 1.5 liters of distilled qater everyday.. A year later I started a weight loss program, lost 24kg, then was motivated to start working out. I jumped rope, on my first set of jump I heard a popping sound on my tendon. Ive been seeing a biokinetist, her exercises dont help. Its been 6 months now. Even the distilled water doesnt help at all now. Then I discovered cold showers. I get atleast a 3hour relief after taking the shower and have since started an exercise program I saw on youtube... its getting better

  • @amishakaushal6020
    @amishakaushal6020 Год назад

    I don't do running , I don't do sports i don't even workout i have no idea how i got this AT ... I only sit on my chair and study , one day i was studying and when I got up it was stabing pain on bck of my foot.. and now it's been a week..

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  Год назад

      It could have been that you overstretched the area if you sit with your feet in under your chair or it may actually be referred pain from your back. Have it checked by a physio - they will be able to assess and diagnose it for you.

    • @amishakaushal6020
      @amishakaushal6020 Год назад

      @@TreatMyAchilles i usually sit cross legged on chair like we sit on the ground that pose while studying.. it's not continues pain just when i get up from studying or take a long nap..

  • @xbadandy182x
    @xbadandy182x 2 года назад +2

    This is really disappointing to hear. Over the last 2 months I've been struggling to recover from insertional achilles tendonitis and there are only 3 things that bring me relief - going to bed at night to get off my feet - Ibuprofen/NSAIDs, and a warm epsom salt soak for my feet and calves.
    Using ice seems to stiffen things up and makes it very difficult to walk on after icing it. I tried ice again today after seeing this video and I had to lay in bed for a good 3 hours after icing to allow my heel time to warm back up enough to where I could walk on it. Not sure why this is happening but ice is more painful to me than warm water. I am so sick of this injury. I'm ready to saw my damn leg off.

    • @ahmedabouayyad2110
      @ahmedabouayyad2110 2 года назад +1

      First if it hurts don't walk on it, let it rest and ice it for twenty minutes (make sure you put the ice exactly on the area of the bursa, because touching the tendon with ice makes it start hurting which is yet another type of pain to deal with. When you'll start feeling that the bursa is starting to heal up, you can start walking for a tiny bit, but never on flat shoes or slides not even at home, also make sure you don't wear shoes that feel tight on the heel bone area because as you're wearing them you're worsening your bursa again, in fact you can upgrade your shoe size for this one. After that you should start doing your strengthening exercices gradually for 14+ weeks, every research agrees that strengthening exercices are key. Even when you finally fully go back to activity you should keep backing it up with the strengthening exercices. Also before going back to activity make sure that you are able to do as many single leg jumps as you want without any pain. During the process make sure you're treating that heel like you're stepping on an egg that you're not trying to break, it's that sensitive. Wish you a speedy recovery!

    • @xbadandy182x
      @xbadandy182x 2 года назад

      @@ahmedabouayyad2110 Thanks for the advice. Definitely am going back to square one and focusing on calming it down again. I was at the point where it felt like 90% healed - The first 2 weeks of the injury I was resting it entirely and not walking on it at all. It calmed down.
      I began to do my calf raises from the floor. I could always do single leg raises (3 sets of 15) without any pain whatsoever.
      For whatever reason, last week, it flared up on me and has been a struggle ever since. So here I am, 6 weeks into calf raises and starting over. I had been doing slow treadmill walks 3 times a week to keep active while strengthening and it wasn't an issue.
      I'm going back to physical therapy with a new doctor to start over and get this figured out.
      I have excessive overpronation issues - So I had already been in stability shoes with a high heel drop (13MM).
      I also have heel wedges in which helps keep my heel away from the back of the shoe ever so slightly - so it doesn't agitate the bursa as far as I can tell.
      I've also been working with a podiatrist and have custom orthotics coming in a couple weeks to help with the overpronation issues.
      I've really been following the protocol by the book and its just frustrating.. I am starting to fear I may end up in the group of people that need surgery.
      I haven't run now for 50 days. I do not plan to ever go back to running again due to how painful getting over this injury is. I am just done with it. My motivation has been zapped. Really, really hoping the orthotics help me heal up and my new PT can help me out.

    • @liljemark1
      @liljemark1 2 года назад +1

      @@xbadandy182x don't give up! I took 4 months off completely from running end of last year. Main reason was because I had the worst plantar pain on my other foot, but during the time I worked with a local physio on my Achilles tendonitis (regular, not insertional) which had been there for almost a year. Started with isometric holds, worked to single leg raises holding a kettlebell 25% my bodyweight. Last week we tested I can do 23 single leg calf raises which equals 50-59-year-old's standards. At 41 yo that's not the best result but it's work in progress. And I've been jogging since late December.

    • @xbadandy182x
      @xbadandy182x 2 года назад

      @@ahmedabouayyad2110 FYI - Took your advice and paid close attention to only ice the heel, at the insertion area and avoided higher up on the tendon where it attaches to the calf. Very very good advice. Works great. As I am typing this, my heel feels great. Thank you so much. Such an easy fix to address my fear of icing it, causing more pain. You are a life saver.

    • @SportsInjuryPhysio
      @SportsInjuryPhysio 2 года назад

      @@xbadandy182x Hi Andrew, I see that you've already received some very good advice. The only thing that I would add is that if heat makes your feel better, then use it. If you're doing warm baths, it means that the water will be comfortably warm and you won't be doing it for too long. The rule with ice and heat is - if you feel better after doing it AND there's no significant uptick in your symptoms later on due to it, then it may be OK. You may also find some advice here: ruclips.net/video/mWUzsQILzWA/видео.html

  • @wesh6222
    @wesh6222 2 года назад

    i have been struggling with Achilles pain for over two years, it's depressing to say the list.

    • @TreatMyAchilles
      @TreatMyAchilles  2 года назад +1

      It can often drag on - the key is to get the right combination of activity + strength training going so that you can restore the capacity of the tendon. This is something that our team of physios can help you with via video call. You can read more about how the online consultations work here: www.treatmyachilles.com/

    • @wesh6222
      @wesh6222 2 года назад

      @@TreatMyAchilles thank you for getting back, I will do my best to reach out to the consultation team.