Broken double bend putter - How to Fix

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  • Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025

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  • @torchguidedog
    @torchguidedog 12 дней назад

    I found the explanation below of how to line up your double bend shaft - without having to guess. I tried it and it works.
    Double bend shafts normally have a 1/4" offset, sometimes 3/8". Use a flat bench and find a small flat block with a thickness that matches the offset (~1/4"), set the putter on the bench and rest the face on the block so it is raised ~1/4" off the bench. Turn the shaft until it rests on the bench across the length of the shaft above the bend, while the face stays flat on the raised block. With a grip still on you'll have to hang the grip over the edge of the bench.

  • @frankandjan1305
    @frankandjan1305 2 года назад

    Another great video: 1. My grandson purchased the same double bend shaft putter at a PGA Superstore for a great price - I think it was a clearance item - he was using it for a while and kept missing putts to the right - I tried the putter and it just looked weird and felt unusual - the face was open at address and the toe of the putter was up - I was surprised he could sink any putts - your video solved the mystery as I believe the problem is that the shaft was not originally installed properly and hence the reason the putter was heavily discounted - I'm going to try and contact the manufacturer to see if they are willing to repair or replace - he does not have the original receipt - not many young people save receipts like us old folk. If not I most likely will try to repair myself using your video as a guide. 2. I have an old Cobra Melbourne II putter, which has a milled 6061 soft alloy aluminum insert, which I purchased from Play-it-Again Sports. The putter is in really good condition but has a clicky sound when the golf ball is struck. One of my playing partners asked if the insert was loose - it was not but made me believe that parts of the insert is delaminated from the putter body. Maybe the clicky sound is normal for an aluminum insert type putter. I searched for a video to determine how to repair. I did find one video that puts the putter in boiling water to remove a soft insert, but with the insert being aluminum, I'm wondering if heating the putter with the torch would soften the adhesive enough to remove and then I would only need to replace the insert using the two-part epoxy. The challenge is removing the insert without damaging it. Any suggestions? Thanks.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      I haven't tried to pull an insert. That is something I would defer to the manufacturer about. If they agree to do it and mess it up, it's on them.

  • @seungjinlee836
    @seungjinlee836 4 месяца назад

    Thank you ..
    Great job..😊

  • @markl577
    @markl577 3 года назад

    Great info. I'm thinking of changing my Odyssey XG Sabretooth from a double bend to a single bend shaft, this should help. Cheers 👍🏻🙂

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад +1

      Sounds like a good experiment!

  • @stuman19741974
    @stuman19741974 3 года назад +1

    Great video! 2 questions: 1: Does heating leave discoloration to the shaft? I have a black painted metal shaft and don't want to damage the paint. 2: did you check the head toe-hang before letting the epoxy set? The club in your vid I think is meant to be zero toe hang...rotating that shaft may induce toe or heel hang. Thanks!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад +1

      If you use lower heat and keep it moving, you should not have any damage to the paint.
      As far as toe hang, I didn't measure it because I know how that putter is supposed to sit at address. The correct neutral shaft position will result in a face balanced putter.

  • @coegj
    @coegj 9 месяцев назад

    I find I have the same problem with a putter I bought used. On this putter the loft is to 4.9 degrees instead of 3 degrees. After seeing your video I now have an Idea how to fix this, but what I don't know is your final result, was the loft some what higher or still off, did you have to take the grip off and reinstall, just put a new grip on it. I do work on my own clubs as I have most of the necessary equipment, I just have never worked on or installed a double bend shafted putter. So did you get the 3 degrees you wanted or have to do it over again. Life is easy compared to golf, and of course working on the darn golf clubs. Thanks for any reply, love your videos and tips on club making and repair, they have helped me over time.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  9 месяцев назад

      Had to use a new grip after reinstalling.

  • @kevinspeight4664
    @kevinspeight4664 2 года назад

    What price range does Loft and Lie machine or stand (like the one in the back ground) cost. I’m wanting, Have Been wanting,,, to start fixing and tinkering w customization of clubs what would you say the few most important tools would be to start.?
    Thanks in advance for any information
    K Sp8

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      That one was $700 plus cost of the stand.

  • @christopheryee1356
    @christopheryee1356 4 года назад

    Good and informative video. Can you make the lie angle of a double bend shaft more upright?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      Yes, two different methods. The first being just bending the shaft. This is old school club making, but you can just stand on the head and gently work the shaft in the direction you want. Need to be a little gentle so you don't kink the shaft. Other method is dependent on the shaft attaching to the head with a stem instead of insertion into the head. If you have a stem on the putter head, you can use a bending bar and bend the stem under the shaft.

  • @vins8690
    @vins8690 Год назад

    Awesome video. Very helpful. I have the stroke lab 7 and I need a longer shaft. Instead of extensions I was thinking of just installing a new shaft myself. Not too crazy about the bender shafts either. Do you have any advice for installing a straight shaft, I figured it would work fine because the tip on the head of the putter is slanted and might be beneficial for my putting.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      I would dry fit it first and see how the angles look. Easier to bend the stem without the shaft attached in you need to.

  • @billmalec
    @billmalec 3 года назад +2

    We have a friend that likes to slam his clubs on the ground after a bad shot.
    My quip to him is always "adjusting the lie angle?"

  • @edmainman5353
    @edmainman5353 2 года назад

    Hi AJ , I have the same backward leaning shaft kn my left handed Scotty Cameron Select Golo mallet. There is no ferrule and I think it is a single bend shaft. Do you know if this putter head has a stem as well
    And can I do the same repair? Thanks.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      Not sure. Get some sort of metal bar or tool and tap against the shaft down by the head and then an inch up. If it sounds different, probably a stem is there.

  • @kingshark5938
    @kingshark5938 4 года назад

    Would like to see a hard vs soft step iron shaft vid. Good channel, not many are explaining the specs of the game. Keep up the good work.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад +2

      Thanks. I have got a list of video ideas I hope to tackle but I am always looking for more. Shaft stepping would be a good one. Stay tuned!

    • @kingshark5938
      @kingshark5938 4 года назад

      @@EFGMC ... cool, reason I ask is, had a recent fitting, and took my trusted club, a 7irn, that I have no yips about, and they tested the frequency at 288.
      Tested with them and they had me in a p790 dg s 105 at 311. Bought a 105 from gwrks, and it didn't fair so well for me as at the fitting, obviously I struck out on the frequency.
      I feel I'm anywhere between 290-300.
      O by they way, where did you get your freq machine from. Plus what's your location, do you service.

    • @kingshark5938
      @kingshark5938 4 года назад

      @@EFGMC .. plus, any recommendations for a moderate, early release type guy. Researching and findings say, soft tip is the way to go.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад +1

      @@kingshark5938 I will give you my take on CPM measurements. I use my Freq Meter in my videos to demonstrate some specific results from certain club building choices. I also use it to measure radial consistency of shafts. However, I don't use it for fitting purposes. I just don't think it has much value for most people, especially compared to other fitting variables like weight, balance, length, bend profile, etc. CPMs move around so much because of changes in these other aspects, that it's hard to put too much value in those numbers.
      To answer your questions, the meter is a Club Scout 3 (I think, maybe 4). I am not sure you can still get them new. When I bought mine, the owner told me he was not doing too many more. Pretty much all Freq meters are the same though, pretty basic machine, even though they may have some different bells/whistles.
      I am in Atlanta, and do some club work for friends and some college golfers.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад +1

      @@kingshark5938 Understand why they say that, early release can't load the stiffer bending shafts because the speed and angles are lower earlier in the down swing. However, an early release usually means the shaft has already flexed and released before you get to the ball so any difference in bend profile will be minimal at best.
      So put these things together and what I come away with is just finding the shaft profile that feels good in your hands and allows you to make your most repeatable swing. I always go back to weight in the end though. Weight is the most important shaft spec.

  • @604soulman6
    @604soulman6 2 года назад

    Does the shaft go inside of the ferrule or does the ferrule sit in between the shaft and the head?
    That little ferrule is broken for my putter..

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      In the Odyssey, it sits as a spacer between the shaft and the stem base.

  • @TheKeenej
    @TheKeenej 3 года назад

    Great vlog AJ, now do a episode on replacing a screen on the Works Odyssey Fang two ball. It keeps coming off. Any recomendations?

  • @DennisKo
    @DennisKo 2 года назад

    Hello! What is the little ferrule they use for those double bend shafts? I have an original white hot 2 ball putter and I’m curious. Thanks!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      I believe it's because the shaft does not connect to the head at a perfect 90 degree angle so a shaft on a stem head would show some gapping on one side. The ferrule results in a cleaner look.
      I've never been told this is the case, but from many years of experience I think it's correct.

  • @tsc6454
    @tsc6454 2 года назад

    I have an odyssey putter with a white insert. The insert is very worn and peeling. Is there a way to repair or replace the insert? It's an odyssey white hot xg #1. Thanks for any advice!!! Tim

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      I've never tried to replace one. Have you called Callaway about it? That would be my first move.

    • @tsc6454
      @tsc6454 2 года назад

      @@EFGMC I did call Callaway, they told me they did not have replacement inserts. If you have any ideas on how I could even things out, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

  • @neh14222
    @neh14222 4 года назад +1

    What about the grip now that you rotated the shaft?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      Original grip had to go since it was basically straight when the shaft was misaligned. These grips are very difficult to save, but Callaway kindly sent me a new grip to install.

  • @hillbillybassfisherman8181
    @hillbillybassfisherman8181 4 года назад

    you think i could put this shaft into my ER6 evnroll ? i always thought a double bend shaft was made to be center shaft in a putter but made this shaft so you could see the alignments on putters.I always used a double been oddesey but i research for best modern putter an the ER6 has the best tech but dont offer a double bend shaft

    • @hillbillybassfisherman8181
      @hillbillybassfisherman8181 4 года назад

      if i have to heat the head may mess up paint job but it will be ok i got all the paints an sprayer i can custom paint it i was anyway with the callaway 3 line ball marker i use bridgestone balls...saying i think the shaft goes right down in the head it dont have that ring on it...i got golfworks lie angle to hold it in the right spot i just never did putter shaft

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      Would mainly depend how the hosel or stem (not sure how the ER6 attaches) is oriented. A stem of course could always be bent to get the shaft angle correct, a plain hole would require possibly bending the shaft if not set at the same angle. Only other issue would be making sure the shaft diameter is the same as the hosel bore in the ER6. I think all the Odysseys are .370??

    • @bobmcgee7805
      @bobmcgee7805 4 года назад

      Double bend shafts are not the best way ...its a fallacy...don't forward press...try using a straight in shaft if possible..

    • @Concern_Citizen
      @Concern_Citizen 4 года назад

      @@EFGMC - The .370 refers to the outside diameter, correct? However, shafts that fit over the stem, as in the case with the Putter in this video, are they sold by the outside diameter or the inside diameter? Taylormade itsy bitsy Spider putter stem measures at .323, the shaft itself has a outside diameter of .370, so, are those Putter shafts that fit over a stem sold by the outside diameter or the inside diameter?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      @@Concern_Citizen They should all be 370 as best I know. Would not use a taper shaft as the taper would cause the stem to wiggle inside the hosel. Only other option would be a flared tip shaft but that would be obvious upon first glance if it was that kind of shaft (like a Bullseye or similar).

  • @kevinjeffery1865
    @kevinjeffery1865 4 месяца назад

    Great video

  • @Rayceemon
    @Rayceemon 3 года назад

    Useful information, this might come in handy.
    Hope that putter has plenty of birdies left in it for you. Cheers.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад

      Nope it didn't. Occasionally convince myself that I like mallet style putters, 18 holes later I realize yet again that I don't!

  • @davidhall8114
    @davidhall8114 3 года назад

    does TC at the beginning of the serial number indicate it is a tour issue?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад +1

      Yes for Callaway.

  • @masonbillings5174
    @masonbillings5174 2 года назад

    Do you know the tip size odyssey uses on these style of putters?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      These are .370 because they need the parallel section to sit flush when installed over the head stem. As a general rule, putters with a stem will always be .370, putters with a hosel could go either way.

  • @bobkirkwood2992
    @bobkirkwood2992 Год назад

    Wont the grip be misaligned?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      Maybe, depending on how the grip was install initially. Very likely you will need to put on a new grip if you have to rotate the shaft.

  • @dutch7279
    @dutch7279 3 года назад

    What type of epoxy do you use for woods and irons?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад

      I buy Golfworks Tour Strength Epoxy for most projects unless I need a faster time.

  • @joshbohne8655
    @joshbohne8655 3 года назад

    I got a custom Spider tour with the double bend shaft and when I got it I felt like the shaft felt too far behind the putter instead of straight up and down. How can I check at home to see if my shaft it bent incorrectly?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад

      I would just set the shaft as close as you can to perpendicular (ie no forward or backward shaft lean) and see what the face looks like. Does it appear to have a few degrees of loft or does in look completely flat or even negative lofted. That would be the indication the shaft is leaning back.
      But honestly it doesn't matter if it is or isn't, if you perceive it to be, then I would adjust it.

  • @michaelhennig6303
    @michaelhennig6303 3 года назад

    AJ, have you ever replaced the plastic insert with a milled one?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад

      I haven't ever tried that. Above my pay grade!

  • @andrewfrey9952
    @andrewfrey9952 4 года назад +1

    I’m thinking of converting my 2 ball double bend to plumbers neck. Have you ever heard of that or tried it?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      Are you wanting to weld a plumbers neck stem onto the existing head? Having a hard time picturing how it will work. Would need more info as to what exact putter you are using and your plan for it.
      They did make plumbers neck versions of some of the 2 ball lines also. Might be easier to get what you want that way.

  • @kenny7652
    @kenny7652 Год назад

    If i make my own putter by the R&A regulations, do I need to send it to the R&A before I can use it in competition?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      Making the head?

    • @kenny7652
      @kenny7652 Год назад

      Yes, I've been asked by a company to design a putter.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      @@kenny7652 I would contact them for the process.

  • @low1sk8er
    @low1sk8er 4 года назад

    A friend got excited with his chip shot and jumped around and accidentally snapped my PXG Drone putter at the head (shaft intact but snapped it off of the putter stem head) when he landed on it. 3/4 of the stem is in the shaft and maybe just a millimeter is sticking out of the head. Ughhhhh can you help?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      Email me a picture of it so I can see what we are dealing with. aj@smartstake.com

  • @RAMSEYgsd
    @RAMSEYgsd 4 года назад +1

    I wished you would of show us a before and after picture to compare (side-by-side) the difference. Why didn’t you use your putter loft/lie angle checker as a jig vs just eyeing it and letting it cure free standing?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад +1

      That would be a good idea. Never even thought about using the loft/lie in that way.
      Figuring most people probably don't have that piece of equipment though, it's not hard to align the shaft based off the face. If you can install a putter grip straight, you can align a double bend shaft. The fit was plenty snug so it didn't require any additional bracing.

  • @craigmaurer885
    @craigmaurer885 3 месяца назад

    That looks that way because someone already adjusted the loft and lie not that the shaft was installed wrong. When you change the loft on a putter if you lay the putter head flat on the ground the shaft will lean depending on how much loft you added or took off. That's the only way you can adjust loft on a putter. Your hands stay in the normal position and now the loft is different.

  • @Wolfpack32-
    @Wolfpack32- 5 лет назад +1

    Good work sir, nice machete. Lol

  • @iiredeyeiiredeye1569
    @iiredeyeiiredeye1569 2 месяца назад

    It's meant to be like that. It should have a offset .

  • @markcreson5513
    @markcreson5513 Год назад

    You should have left the putter the way it was because less loft is better and slightly upright also. I don't know why people think they need three degrees of Loft when you're putting. I'm not chipping the ball I'm putting it along the ground. I use a zero loft on my Putters and the ball just rolls perfectly the moment I hit them

  • @thomaspaysinger1047
    @thomaspaysinger1047 2 года назад

    i went checked all my double bend shaft everyone single one shafts sits back not one stands straight up an down if they did you wouldnt be able see the line cause hands would be in the way

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      It's less about if they sit back, it's more if they sit back in relation to the loft. If the shaft is brought back to perpendicular and the loft drops to 1 degree or less, that's a problem.

  • @philkirby2692
    @philkirby2692 Год назад

    Hang on I paused it at 19 sec… let me guess what the problem is… they used a standard double bend putter shaft that’s supposed to go into a 90° bore hole --- and that’s an odyssey putter head with a 70something degree borehole…
    So then your shaft and putter head are all messed up in the end…
    But can you fix it by bending the shaft before or after it’s in? Cuz this is the problem I’m having right now, it’s like impossible to find any odyssey specific parts…

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      If you have to use a non Odyssey shaft, easiest way to fix is pull the shaft and then bend the stem to where you need it. Can also try and bend it with shaft attached but personally think that method is harder.

  • @bobkirkwood2992
    @bobkirkwood2992 4 года назад

    Why didn't you simply bend the putter shaft in a putter bending machine?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      First reason is I don't keep a putter bending machine in the shop. But even if I did, for this type of adjustment, I would still just pull the shaft and reset. Bending the stem on these kinds of putters can be risky when trying to get more than 1 degree and bending the shaft can lead to kinks or ripples in the metal.

  • @xgolfbatamgolfbatam4514
    @xgolfbatamgolfbatam4514 4 года назад

    gpod information, thanks

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @hillbillybassfisherman8181
    @hillbillybassfisherman8181 4 года назад

    thats the thing of buying used clubs EBAY is the worse to getting broken clubs

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  4 года назад

      This one actually came from Callaway Pre Owned and they were more than willing to replace it. I just chose to repair it myself. They did send me a new grip also.

  • @mikehollon9706
    @mikehollon9706 Месяц назад

    You didn't fix it, the rear tangs on the putter are angled up., they are not designed to be flat

  • @gabrielcobian2754
    @gabrielcobian2754 3 года назад

    Am I the only one that noticed a machete ?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  3 года назад +1

      First rule of Mobile Clubmaker. Don't talk about the machete.