I’d probably be shoving the turn after the check raise. If the button wakes up with a set, I’d excuse myself and go cry in the bathroom for a few minutes.
@@CrazyJoe113I would just fold 62 preflop tbh. And then I’m not calling flop with just a naked gutshot even getting 4:1. But maybe he can have exactly 76dd and play it this way. But that’s one combo.
The way the hand was played, it was played exactly how most people at lower stakes would actually play a set on a relatively non threatening flop in a multiway pot. As strong as top two pair is, it’s really just a bluff catcher against that line (a turn check raise followed by a river shove is usually a nuts or nothing situation) In this case it was nothing, but more often than not it’s a monster. If it was heads up I probably would have called it off given the price if I knew the player was capable of making a move, but with another player in the pot the check raise didn’t get rid of I feel it’s much more weighted towards strength and it’s actually not unreasonable to fold there.
I play my set exactly like the guy bluffing. When I hit a set on the flop with a rainbow flop. I check and let other people catch up on the turn. Then I check raise on the turn and jam on the river. He should have folded on the turn if he was not gonna call a river.
The turn check raise with a calling station in +1 feels like a set of 3s or set of 4s to me. I don't think he has to raise flop with a set because it's not a draw heavy board.
As played I am probably just calling turn and calling down on any non diamond river, we get painted into a corner in these limped pots but we get a huge overlay from a calling station behind. In these types of spots we get way better pot odds with every call because we know we're often getting an additional dead call behind. If BB is ever bluffing here or betting with like 43 we have to just hang on until the end I think because we're really getting like 5 to 1 on a call. I played at a great table like this this weekend actually, and there were spots somewhat like this where I would be calling with draws/hands that don't actually have enough equity to call against the aggressor, but knowing you're very often getting an additional call behind changes the pot odds to where a call is profitable. We need to make adjustments to VIPs at the table, but we can't always assume that other players are adjusting as well.
Great video. I recommend keeping all of the action on the screen. The way you do it now, I have to remember the previous action. Sometimes I can't watch a video straight through and if I want to continue at a later time, I have to go back and waste time. I've seen another vloger/youtuber show all action on the screen and I like it.
Love this hand, LOL. Honestly, I would have called, based on anticipating how it actually turned out: BB was trying to outplay +1. Top two is gold vs a fish and a potential bluffer.
When calling the turn, I would have expected a river shove. A river diamond, 9 or A is a fold (if BB shoves). But, otherwise, the turn was the time to fold not the river. The 5 brings in unlikely hands but is otherwise a brick (if VIP is sitting on 2-6 or 7 8, so be it). So, the hands were made on the turn or weren't and hero already called the turn.
@@jamiejammer1227how? An A or 9 complete so many hand that beat his hand lol. A3 or A5 of diamonds as well as the obvious nut straight that could easily be held there.
I mean, if we are folding to a 5 on the river, we are folding almost all rivers we do not boat up on. That is about as brick of a river as you can get.
Tbf once it goes call overcall by a station the river bluffing frequency should go down (also because +1 is a station and BB had a price a 5 is slightly less of a blank than it should be but I mostly agree there isn't as much difference between an off suit 5 and an off suit 8 here as they make it sound) even without getting into 5th street chicken in heads up situations you need to consider the calls and a 3rd bet changing things here.
Yeah worrying about 76dd and 62dd seems pretty nuts. A2dd seems to be the only hand it really completes and even that’s a fairly loose call on the flop.
I feel like the most frustrating thing about spots like this, is if you did hero call with 2 pair, it might induce a fold from the VIP guy if he's even slightly competent. So you're risking being behind either player, but you only get paid by one of them. At least the good news, is the money went where you're most likely able to retrieve it.
The fold on the river is terrible. BB should basically never have 33/44 because he check-called the flop... 4-ways! Even on a super dry board, there's just no way he's gonna just check-call the flop with HUGE (400 big blind deep) stacks in play. Not gonna happen. I'm snap calling the river and expecting to chop a lot of the time with KT, and occasionally beat an oddly-played K4, T4, or rare bluff. The fact that the +1 fish would likely call behind with an even worse hand (AA, AK, K5, T3, etc.) makes the odds even better and justifies "calling for a chop".
so: +1 can limp with pocket AA, but he cannot limp with pocket KK! That's what you're saying. BB can x/r on turn into a large field with a crap, but he cannot x/r with (any) sets? It's easy to be a general after the battle.
@pot_kivach160 Sure +1 could have KK, but there's only ONE combo of that, and I would only give him a partial of it since he flatted 3 times post-flop with the absolute nuts (once on flop, twice on turn). Secondly, I'm saying there's no way a set check-calls the flop when it's 4 ways and there are deep stacks left behind. That would be a colossal blunder... in what universe does that make sense? As I said, I think the turn raise represents exactly KT the majority of the time. In hindsight, BB probably had something like A5dd or 56dd. But in real time, I was strongly expecting KT. Nothing in my analysis is results-oriented... I'm snapping the river every single time, and if the BB were to show 33/44 I would mentally note that he is overly trappy and adjust accordingly.
@@pot_kivach160 I don't see any mention of KK in the OP. Hero blocks it. And the OP is correct that this river fold was terrible. I love Nate, but calling the 1,000 on turn to fold on a blank river is awful.
@@EllieBanks333 Not sure if you got my points: 1) I mentioned KK pointing out that an opponent could have a set of KK on turn. No way STRD could known that. Also, my other point was that BB could had a set (33/44). All these 3 options cannot be ruled out based on hand context elements presented in the video. . And, yes, Famous Last words: "I have blocked it". What "K" has H blocked by seeing 2 of them?? Did you know that there are 4 KKKK in the deck? Ask for your money back from whoever persuaded you to buy that (CRAP) of blocking the non-blocked cards.
@@noex100 fair enough. . However: _I'm saying there's no way a set check-calls the flop when it's 4 ways and there are deep stacks left behind. ... in what universe does that make sense?_ That Universe resides and thrives on this table! If a pocket AA could flat pf limp, and call everything multiway all the way to the river, then that's the Universe you're looking for! . P.S. you should know that those who invented a poor "Result oriented" category, failed to understand that adjusting your play according to opponent's profiles - is a winning play. . _EDITS: What you're talking worths for the sound poker play. However, that standard is n/a at this table._
Wow, what a hand! Made me chuckle at the end knowing the fish got all the money even though he's clueless. I pretty much forgot on every street that this +1 guy was even in the hand, thought at first it would be a call for you at the end but the +1 being there really changes everything. I think checking it back pre is a great choice, even more so that you know +1 loves to limp/3bet. But even if he wasn't such a fish you can still probably just check it. On the flop I liek the sizing, not much to say especially when you know +1 is a calling station. Turn I don't really think there's any merit to folding, you shouldn't be beat very often. On the river like I said I would be snap calling this BB guy off with 2 blankets if the fish didn't exist. Just makes the situation completely different cuz essentially BB doesn't understand the situation either. He should never be bluffing the calling station. But yeah unlucky spot in my opinion to find yourself in, would be entirely different if it was heads up.
I'm jamming the turn.. If I think BB is a losing player, then I can see them raising the flop more often with sets - which means we have them both beat.
@@supersmoo7377 I've heard ya. ONE bullet kills the deer. As for PFR flatting...SB with pocket AA did not raise pre! Obviously, standard play is n/a at this table. Gotta take that into the account.
I think a call can make sense here if we give BB credit for knowing that +1 will call down with any kind of bluff catcher. You can put him on a lot more hands that act as bluffs with these bet sizings here if the VIP will call with AT or Kx. When he made that turn bet, I had hands like T4/T3 in his range, assuming that with those hands he's effectively trying to bluff you off whatever you connected with and trying to isolate a VIP who will call with the thinnest value imaginable. Why he tried to bluff a calling station on the river when he didn't hit his draws, I do not know. xD
This seems like one of those situations, with how it plays out, where you call and if you're beat..you're beat. only 3 hands from the BB connect. The way he plays it just seems bluff heavy anyway. Attempting to steal the pot on the turn with the check raise, and getting it in on the river is (i guess in his mind?) his only option to attempt to take it down. Top 2 just seems good here from how he described the players invovled.
@@noex100 I obviously agree 100% - as long as one is playing against people who have even the faintest idea about winning poker strategy. Which is not the case in my little local card room. :D
I play a lot of low stakes home games and this sounds just like them actually. I know the stakes are higher but it's still a private game and he explained that both players are losing players. All of that knowledge with top 2. Its a call. If you lose to a set it is what it is. Players like this honestly just love giving away money.
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Like if I'm likely to get into a car accident 1/40,000 miles but I pay as if I get into one every 20,000 miles not getting good odds here how do you play it? for flood or homeowners insurance
I would think villain has a lot of two-pair hands, on the turn, along with some draws. The better hands are only 44 and 33. Would call this bet on the turn, and call every blank river, as well.
Honestly, this sounds like a low stakes online tournament hand. You know how many times I fold the best hand in an aggressive three or four way pot? Constantly.
Hey Bart, I watch poker videos sometimes and I played my first live $1/3 NL hold'em session the other day - can I make a poker course for your site too? Thanks in advanced.
IDK about that one, Bart was right unless he is a maniac bluffing into two ppl is not a normal line out of position, and with a player behind I think it was a good fold, heads up i probably would call
Top-2 is too strong to fold in my experience for splashy, private games. I hate my life in the moment, but I call holding top-2. I'm maybe folding like 34 on the river, or something like just a naked pair of Ks on turn. The only hand I expect we're losing to is TT that takes this line. If the guy has 33, 44 or the last KK, I just don't think he waits til the turn to XR, and if he does I just pay him his money.
That was my visceral first thought as well but between it being a total of 1 combo and it shouldn't really be called on the flop given the action and that it will raise pre-flop some percentage of the time I don't think it is correct to worry about.
@qazzaqstan Yeah when I thought about it for a few secs..only 1 combo of 10 10 ..so can't be too worried about that I wouldn't have thought there'd be much chance of a check raise on flop with it tho.
@@Fred-rg5vw I must have been unclear I meant it will often be folded flop once there are multiple callers in front since it has terrible equity against a K Preflop I was saying it could also raise when limped to Neither of those are 100% of the time but once we are already only talking 1 combo anything that makes it less likely to be in range makes it borderline not matter unless we are talking about weird spots where the entire range it tiny.
@@Fred-rg5vw BB would have likely raised preflop with it; over-limping TT and going 5-ways to a flop is a terrible play. Even if they did just limp in with it, they should fold on the flop when the STR bets and +1 calls.
Almost no good R for Heros hand. Anything bar 89TK completes a draw or better 2P, plus we need to avoid diamonds. Nasty T spot. But getting great value w calling station still to act . I wonder since so many action killing R if we should ever rr the Turn? R of 5o is not worst but still completes A2d/67d. Plus would not scare a set off jamming too. So, tough spot. Dont fault the fold ITM.
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I’m probably puke folding turn. That checkraise is supposed to be so nutted given the super VIP. You have to have a read on the BB being really bad in order to call turn even with a hand as strong as that. BB jamming river into two on a stone bluff given the setup is just nothing short of a torch.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zjmakes no sense. if bb has 44 or 33 we just call and lose. straight draws never get here. never folding as played with no raise on flop
Why is these great games always somewhere the opposite side of the world? In finland if you go to play 5/5 holdem the table probably have 6+ winning poker pro*s
No way I am folding here top 2 to a BB betting into me and a whale. BB can literally have any 2 cards. 33, 44 (6) combos, 43, K4, k3 (21), combo draw (5)..... The whale effectively has the same number of combos.
The EV of Checking in BB/Str pre is so high, that im Not even raising AQo 99 and lower. Might raise small with good suited Ax and Premiums. Offsuite highcards dont perform good in multiway pots oop. Suited Ax need to be raised small to keep inferior suited Trash in for the cooler Potential. Bad opponents will lose way too much Post anyway so no need to raise
If I got raise by BB in this spot (Turn) for sure I’ll moved ALL IN! I’m a fish but I won’t let good players to just bully me esp if I have almost a nut here w/ big 2 top pair hands!
Nothing is impossible on this table. If a player can limp with pocket AA, why could not he limped with pocket KK? If a player can x/r into a large field with a crap, why could not he have sets (33/44)?? If you can have 2 fish at that table, why couldn't there be more? Obviously, all 3 statements are correct, (particularly the last one). If you called turn x/r, then river is a call. Otherwise, fold turn (and wait for them around the corner).
Not sure how you can call the turn for $800 more and fold the river. I don't see how a 5 would change anything. Don't see how you can realistically put someone on 67. Honestly this video just makes Nate look bad and I would take it down if I were you IMO.
How would you have approached this spot with a super VIP behind you?
I would have either shoved or folded on the turn. Probably leaning towards shoving.
I’m always shoving turn and living with the result vs VIP. The turn brings too many natural c/r semi bluffs. There is also worse value out there.
I’d probably be shoving the turn after the check raise. If the button wakes up with a set, I’d excuse myself and go cry in the bathroom for a few minutes.
Sucks a bit for hero that he got caught between a massive calling station and a clueless BB trying to bluff the massive calling station.
Great summary of the situation. This may or may not having happened to me in the past...
Sucks that Nate called a thousand on turn & folded on a blank river.
@@EllieBanks333 yeah I’m not convinced by the logic of calling turn and folding river. Giving BB 62 or 76 seems a bit of a reach given flop action.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zjcheck then over calling getting over 4 to 1? What about that flop action would make gunshots less likely?
@@CrazyJoe113I would just fold 62 preflop tbh. And then I’m not calling flop with just a naked gutshot even getting 4:1.
But maybe he can have exactly 76dd and play it this way. But that’s one combo.
lol that needle by Bart at the end had me dying. 😂😂🍿🍿
Had me dead 💀
I guess the caller can always "revise" 😂
The way the hand was played, it was played exactly how most people at lower stakes would actually play a set on a relatively non threatening flop in a multiway pot. As strong as top two pair is, it’s really just a bluff catcher against that line (a turn check raise followed by a river shove is usually a nuts or nothing situation) In this case it was nothing, but more often than not it’s a monster. If it was heads up I probably would have called it off given the price if I knew the player was capable of making a move, but with another player in the pot the check raise didn’t get rid of I feel it’s much more weighted towards strength and it’s actually not unreasonable to fold there.
I play my set exactly like the guy bluffing. When I hit a set on the flop with a rainbow flop. I check and let other people catch up on the turn. Then I check raise on the turn and jam on the river.
He should have folded on the turn if he was not gonna call a river.
The turn check raise with a calling station in +1 feels like a set of 3s or set of 4s to me. I don't think he has to raise flop with a set because it's not a draw heavy board.
Do you often check for monsters under your bed?
As played I am probably just calling turn and calling down on any non diamond river, we get painted into a corner in these limped pots but we get a huge overlay from a calling station behind.
In these types of spots we get way better pot odds with every call because we know we're often getting an additional dead call behind. If BB is ever bluffing here or betting with like 43 we have to just hang on until the end I think because we're really getting like 5 to 1 on a call.
I played at a great table like this this weekend actually, and there were spots somewhat like this where I would be calling with draws/hands that don't actually have enough equity to call against the aggressor, but knowing you're very often getting an additional call behind changes the pot odds to where a call is profitable. We need to make adjustments to VIPs at the table, but we can't always assume that other players are adjusting as well.
Now: who is "I" and who is "WE"? Would something the I would do that the WE would not? Did you have a secret partner at the table?
@pot_kivach160 "we" refers to spots which we, the clp audience are discussing, and "i" refers to my own decisions, I suppose. Something like that.
Great video. I recommend keeping all of the action on the screen. The way you do it now, I have to remember the previous action. Sometimes I can't watch a video straight through and if I want to continue at a later time, I have to go back and waste time. I've seen another vloger/youtuber show all action on the screen and I like it.
Love this hand, LOL. Honestly, I would have called, based on anticipating how it actually turned out: BB was trying to outplay +1. Top two is gold vs a fish and a potential bluffer.
When calling the turn, I would have expected a river shove. A river diamond, 9 or A is a fold (if BB shoves). But, otherwise, the turn was the time to fold not the river. The 5 brings in unlikely hands but is otherwise a brick (if VIP is sitting on 2-6 or 7 8, so be it). So, the hands were made on the turn or weren't and hero already called the turn.
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@@pot_kivach160 it’s actually terrible analysis, an ace or nine is irrelevant.
@@jamiejammer1227how? An A or 9 complete so many hand that beat his hand lol. A3 or A5 of diamonds as well as the obvious nut straight that could easily be held there.
I mean, if we are folding to a 5 on the river, we are folding almost all rivers we do not boat up on. That is about as brick of a river as you can get.
Tbf once it goes call overcall by a station the river bluffing frequency should go down (also because +1 is a station and BB had a price a 5 is slightly less of a blank than it should be but I mostly agree there isn't as much difference between an off suit 5 and an off suit 8 here as they make it sound) even without getting into 5th street chicken in heads up situations you need to consider the calls and a 3rd bet changing things here.
Yeah worrying about 76dd and 62dd seems pretty nuts.
A2dd seems to be the only hand it really completes and even that’s a fairly loose call on the flop.
No, a 5 is worse than a 3,4,6,8,T,J,Q,K.
@@qazzaqstan have you learnt about BB and the "+1" profiles?
If an 8 hits the river he will be worried of pocket 88s
I feel like the most frustrating thing about spots like this, is if you did hero call with 2 pair, it might induce a fold from the VIP guy if he's even slightly competent. So you're risking being behind either player, but you only get paid by one of them. At least the good news, is the money went where you're most likely able to retrieve it.
The fold on the river is terrible. BB should basically never have 33/44 because he check-called the flop... 4-ways! Even on a super dry board, there's just no way he's gonna just check-call the flop with HUGE (400 big blind deep) stacks in play. Not gonna happen.
I'm snap calling the river and expecting to chop a lot of the time with KT, and occasionally beat an oddly-played K4, T4, or rare bluff. The fact that the +1 fish would likely call behind with an even worse hand (AA, AK, K5, T3, etc.) makes the odds even better and justifies "calling for a chop".
so: +1 can limp with pocket AA, but he cannot limp with pocket KK! That's what you're saying.
BB can x/r on turn into a large field with a crap, but he cannot x/r with (any) sets?
It's easy to be a general after the battle.
@pot_kivach160 Sure +1 could have KK, but there's only ONE combo of that, and I would only give him a partial of it since he flatted 3 times post-flop with the absolute nuts (once on flop, twice on turn).
Secondly, I'm saying there's no way a set check-calls the flop when it's 4 ways and there are deep stacks left behind. That would be a colossal blunder... in what universe does that make sense?
As I said, I think the turn raise represents exactly KT the majority of the time. In hindsight, BB probably had something like A5dd or 56dd. But in real time, I was strongly expecting KT. Nothing in my analysis is results-oriented... I'm snapping the river every single time, and if the BB were to show 33/44 I would mentally note that he is overly trappy and adjust accordingly.
@@pot_kivach160 I don't see any mention of KK in the OP. Hero blocks it. And the OP is correct that this river fold was terrible. I love Nate, but calling the 1,000 on turn to fold on a blank river is awful.
@@EllieBanks333 Not sure if you got my points:
1) I mentioned KK pointing out that an opponent could have a set of KK on turn. No way STRD could known that. Also, my other point was that BB could had a set (33/44). All these 3 options cannot be ruled out based on hand context elements presented in the video.
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And, yes, Famous Last words: "I have blocked it".
What "K" has H blocked by seeing 2 of them?? Did you know that there are 4 KKKK in the deck? Ask for your money back from whoever persuaded you to buy that (CRAP) of blocking the non-blocked cards.
@@noex100 fair enough.
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However: _I'm saying there's no way a set check-calls the flop when it's 4 ways and there are deep stacks left behind. ... in what universe does that make sense?_
That Universe resides and thrives on this table! If a pocket AA could flat pf limp, and call everything multiway all the way to the river, then that's the Universe you're looking for!
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P.S. you should know that those who invented a poor "Result oriented" category, failed to understand that adjusting your play according to opponent's profiles - is a winning play.
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_EDITS: What you're talking worths for the sound poker play. However, that standard is n/a at this table._
As played, this seems sure call on river. $1000 bet on turn seems to be a draw, possibly QJd.
Odds on river with top 2 pair is to good to fold.
absolutely! Raise sizing tells it all. A set would not wanted to chase his opponents out of pot, but to extract more value out of them instead.
Wow, what a hand! Made me chuckle at the end knowing the fish got all the money even though he's clueless. I pretty much forgot on every street that this +1 guy was even in the hand, thought at first it would be a call for you at the end but the +1 being there really changes everything.
I think checking it back pre is a great choice, even more so that you know +1 loves to limp/3bet. But even if he wasn't such a fish you can still probably just check it.
On the flop I liek the sizing, not much to say especially when you know +1 is a calling station.
Turn I don't really think there's any merit to folding, you shouldn't be beat very often.
On the river like I said I would be snap calling this BB guy off with 2 blankets if the fish didn't exist. Just makes the situation completely different cuz essentially BB doesn't understand the situation either. He should never be bluffing the calling station. But yeah unlucky spot in my opinion to find yourself in, would be entirely different if it was heads up.
I'm jamming the turn.. If I think BB is a losing player, then I can see them raising the flop more often with sets - which means we have them both beat.
and ran into a set of KK. (??)
@@pot_kivach160 the ONE combo of KK which ALSO didn't raise pre-flop??
@@supersmoo7377 I've heard ya. ONE bullet kills the deer. As for PFR flatting...SB with pocket AA did not raise pre! Obviously, standard play is n/a at this table. Gotta take that into the account.
I think a call can make sense here if we give BB credit for knowing that +1 will call down with any kind of bluff catcher. You can put him on a lot more hands that act as bluffs with these bet sizings here if the VIP will call with AT or Kx. When he made that turn bet, I had hands like T4/T3 in his range, assuming that with those hands he's effectively trying to bluff you off whatever you connected with and trying to isolate a VIP who will call with the thinnest value imaginable.
Why he tried to bluff a calling station on the river when he didn't hit his draws, I do not know. xD
This seems like one of those situations, with how it plays out, where you call and if you're beat..you're beat. only 3 hands from the BB connect. The way he plays it just seems bluff heavy anyway. Attempting to steal the pot on the turn with the check raise, and getting it in on the river is (i guess in his mind?) his only option to attempt to take it down. Top 2 just seems good here from how he described the players invovled.
Was this the Halloween episode and Bart was dressed as a construction worker
Also wanted to ask what this shirt/sweater is about.
I’m pretty sure it’s a Patriots jersey
It has to be Patriots related but it still comes off very poor when only showing that portion.
Didn't know Bart was austrian!
Red White Red 👌👌
double Austrian!
I'm folding the turn, because where I play live, people have 44 and 33 waaaaay too often here to make any other play profitable. (Edit: typo)
33/44 never check-calls the flop 4 ways. Practically never.
@@noex100 I obviously agree 100% - as long as one is playing against people who have even the faintest idea about winning poker strategy. Which is not the case in my little local card room. :D
@@noex100especially here with the Taylor swift. Once she calls you can check raise your bottom set and blast away for value.
What on earth did the BB jam with?
I play a lot of low stakes home games and this sounds just like them actually. I know the stakes are higher but it's still a private game and he explained that both players are losing players. All of that knowledge with top 2. Its a call. If you lose to a set it is what it is. Players like this honestly just love giving away money.
Superb Video - Keep up!
Hey Bart non poker related questions cause I saw you talked health care on twitter do you have life insurance or any insurance? seems like a big scam with a big rake if I am 1/100 times likely to die this year but they give me 1/50 odds and then rake the shit out of me is it even viable if I'm not getting direct odds
Like if I'm likely to get into a car accident 1/40,000 miles but I pay as if I get into one every 20,000 miles not getting good odds here how do you play it? for flood or homeowners insurance
Sounds like the shit that happens when i play w my buddies. Except we’re only playing for 50 bucks 😂
Just wondering if he works on the highways during the day
Dagnabbit! Ya beat me to it.
I don't know if I would trust Barts advice anymore it looks like he had to get a part-time job at airport runway patrol
I would think villain has a lot of two-pair hands, on the turn, along with some draws. The better hands are only 44 and 33. Would call this bet on the turn, and call every blank river, as well.
Immediately thought DON'T FOLD when he explains the nature of the VIP
So funny that something very similar happened to me yesterday too
Whats wih the stripes?
Pretty sure he is wearing a Patriots jersey
Honestly, this sounds like a low stakes online tournament hand. You know how many times I fold the best hand in an aggressive three or four way pot? Constantly.
Grrrrooooooosssssssss 24:05
Hey Bart, I watch poker videos sometimes and I played my first live $1/3 NL hold'em session the other day - can I make a poker course for your site too? Thanks in advanced.
You can play online real money cash games in the USA on wpt?
Depends what state you're in. Some can.
@ I read on their website they launch in Jan 2025
IDK about that one, Bart was right unless he is a maniac bluffing into two ppl is not a normal line out of position, and with a player behind I think it was a good fold, heads up i probably would call
It’s a frustrating part of live poker when someone plays a hand so bad they impede on your opportunity to make piles off of another opponent.
Did Bart just get off of his job on the tarmac?
Sounds like The Blueprint may need some revision 😂 But jokes aside, I would've folded on the river too given the action and the players involved.
Top-2 is too strong to fold in my experience for splashy, private games. I hate my life in the moment, but I call holding top-2. I'm maybe folding like 34 on the river, or something like just a naked pair of Ks on turn. The only hand I expect we're losing to is TT that takes this line. If the guy has 33, 44 or the last KK, I just don't think he waits til the turn to XR, and if he does I just pay him his money.
10 10 is the obv 1 that came to my head with the turn check raise..
That or a combo draw..a5 diamonds for eg
That was my visceral first thought as well but between it being a total of 1 combo and it shouldn't really be called on the flop given the action and that it will raise pre-flop some percentage of the time I don't think it is correct to worry about.
@qazzaqstan
Yeah when I thought about it for a few secs..only 1 combo of 10 10 ..so can't be too worried about that
I wouldn't have thought there'd be much chance of a check raise on flop with it tho.
@@Fred-rg5vw I must have been unclear I meant it will often be folded flop once there are multiple callers in front since it has terrible equity against a K
Preflop I was saying it could also raise when limped to
Neither of those are 100% of the time but once we are already only talking 1 combo anything that makes it less likely to be in range makes it borderline not matter unless we are talking about weird spots where the entire range it tiny.
@@Fred-rg5vw BB would have likely raised preflop with it; over-limping TT and going 5-ways to a flop is a terrible play.
Even if they did just limp in with it, they should fold on the flop when the STR bets and +1 calls.
@@qazzaqstan
That was my mistake.. misreading your post. Thanks for explanation.
I shove turn because I play with fish and they’re calling with AA AK
Live poker is alive, sucks for the hero, awful spot on the turn but trivia fold at the end
How can you lead with saying he has limp re-raises in his range, and then not give him credit for having AA, KK, and AK that is never folding?
I haven’t finished the video, but I think folding here is due to over analyzing. This is a shrug call.
Almost no good R for Heros hand. Anything bar 89TK completes a draw or better 2P, plus we need to avoid diamonds. Nasty T spot. But getting great value w calling station still to act .
I wonder since so many action killing R if we should ever rr the Turn?
R of 5o is not worst but still completes A2d/67d. Plus would not scare a set off jamming too. So, tough spot. Dont fault the fold ITM.
Bart just got in from directing traffic
RUclips gave me you through Daniel's live streams. I enjoy your content as I catch up with the backlog as a less than average player in ability and regularity. But I'm hooked on every word as an interesting story more so than the expected case study vibe.
One thing and one question: Thing one: Keep smashing this content it's absolutely amazing. Question one: Is every other person you interview a "Nate"?!
Thanks Bart
I’m probably puke folding turn. That checkraise is supposed to be so nutted given the super VIP. You have to have a read on the BB being really bad in order to call turn even with a hand as strong as that. BB jamming river into two on a stone bluff given the setup is just nothing short of a torch.
Jam turn 100%.
If we think BB has 44/33 or a couple of combo draws I don’t see how that can be the right play.
Jam or fold
@@JohnSmith-nx7zjmakes no sense. if bb has 44 or 33 we just call and lose. straight draws never get here. never folding as played with no raise on flop
@@benjamintaylor8665 it does not make sense what does not make sense to you.
if i get suited Kings, im raising!
Don't fold the river to a non diamond. Or just fold the turn and realize your opponent massively over values TP and overpairs
Bart were you doing some construction work today? 😅
Why is these great games always somewhere the opposite side of the world?
In finland if you go to play 5/5 holdem the table probably have 6+ winning poker pro*s
No way I am folding here top 2 to a BB betting into me and a whale. BB can literally have any 2 cards. 33, 44 (6) combos, 43, K4, k3 (21), combo draw (5)..... The whale effectively has the same number of combos.
The EV of Checking in BB/Str pre is so high, that im Not even raising AQo 99 and lower. Might raise small with good suited Ax and Premiums. Offsuite highcards dont perform good in multiway pots oop. Suited Ax need to be raised small to keep inferior suited Trash in for the cooler Potential. Bad opponents will lose way too much Post anyway so no need to raise
When im in CO or Button, raising wieder becomes better
This deep i would actually raise middling Pairs too Just to have a Chance to Stack someone, but no offsuite high Card hands except for ak
If I got raise by BB in this spot (Turn) for sure I’ll moved ALL IN! I’m a fish but I won’t let good players to just bully me esp if I have almost a nut here w/ big 2 top pair hands!
Nothing is impossible on this table. If a player can limp with pocket AA, why could not he limped with pocket KK? If a player can x/r into a large field with a crap, why could not he have sets (33/44)?? If you can have 2 fish at that table, why couldn't there be more? Obviously, all 3 statements are correct, (particularly the last one). If you called turn x/r, then river is a call. Otherwise, fold turn (and wait for them around the corner).
This guys one of your coaches? 🤔
lol it’s craziness like this that make me a losing player because I fold too
In my family everyone says everything is a joke to me
And I couldn’t even laugh at this reveal
😂 this one gave me a good belly laugh
funny how a player lost $3.5K chasing $0.6K out of blue.
jam turn i think
Dude that shirt hahaha are you a crossing guard part time?
with a set on turn you just push all in. no need to get greedy. is a very greedy mind set that will get you cracked.
Live tell. When Bart yanks his eyebrows.... he's completely lost.
So the Whale likes to limp raise, and we're in a multi-way pot with K10 off. Fold pre.
Still a good fold by the homie
Reveal = LMFAO 🤣
Not sure how you can call the turn for $800 more and fold the river. I don't see how a 5 would change anything. Don't see how you can realistically put someone on 67. Honestly this video just makes Nate look bad and I would take it down if I were you IMO.
nit
Never folding in this spot vs a whale and a small losing player. Diamonds bricked. 5d6d Ad5d didn't improve. Fold turn or calling turn and river 100%
Lets be honest he's never just calling 33/44 OTT,
*otf
who?
@@pot_kivach160 hero