I once "defeated" a campy Villager using custom moves in tournament by refusing to approach until he rage quit because he literally had a train to catch.
@@nick-cepticon782 In my case it'd be Steve, he's actually why I got Smash Ultimate (Inkling too). Ironic since I ended up becoming a Mii Swordie main, at least I have them with diamond armor and tentacle hair to rep my loves.
I really hope they don't change his design in the next Smash. Let Isabelle represent modern era and let us GC fans have our classic-style rep. You're absolutely right, he's perfect. Maybe a little less lag on Lloyd Rocket and down smash would be nice. But otherwise perfect!
You nailed Ultimate Villager's struggles on the head: he is a SSB4 character put into the wrong game. Fundamentally, he is the exact same character as he in SSB4, but his toolkit simply doesn't fit into Ultimate's engine. Feel this way to a lesser extent to other neutral game based characters like Duck Hunt as well, but Villager is a far more egregious example due to the way his moveset is designed. Ranai, his undisputed best player in SSB4, long since retired from competitive Smash (since late 2017) certainly doesn't help matters either.
Yeah, plenty of characters could’ve used some new attacks to switch things up going into ultimate, ALOT of the base roster characters literally feel BARE BONES compared to the DLC.
@@paulakroy2635 They’re all going to be different regardless, it’s just that a lot of the veterans got no love going into ultimate. I mean look at link, even with two other incarnations of the hero in the game to preserve his old moveset, The devs STILL chose not to change him too much. If that’s not a reason to change up a characters moveset I don’t know what is.
Another of Ult's forgotten characters, regularly seen as Low Tier or even one of the worst in some extreme cases, and that's a shame. He's pretty straight-forward with defined strengths and weakness in a game with so much spicy, BS factor that doesn't draw many eyes to him similar to Lucina. With the meta being pushed towards wild punish games, it's unlikely Villy isn't gaining any strong reps soon and IMO he doesn't deserve this overlooked reputation since he's got plenty of solid tools in his gameplan like DA, D-Smash, Nair, Slingshot, Lloid , Timber, etc Maybe one day that will change, there are so many characters people aren't trying hard enough with, but I'm not holding my breath.
I've played him for quite a while and though it's definitely a fun and well rounded zoner, he has flaws that really doesn't help him in higher tiers : 1. He's way too reliant on projectile. If your opponent has a reflector, you will have to nair them to death. 2. His disadvantage is kinda bad, sure his recovery is good enough no he doesn't die at 20, but so many of his tools don't work in disadvantage and because of his stats he stays in it forever. 3. He can struggle to kill if he doesn't find an edguard. His best kill move is probably axe but it's not always available. Otherwise F smash is great but not in neutral, upsmash is bad and down smash has no knockback. For a character that already doesn't have may ko opportunities outside of slongshot/bowling edguard it's very hard to kill above 130. Otherwise Villager has a very good neutral and a very solid and cheesy advantage state, but he's a bit too honest otherwise and gets overwhelmed by top tiers.
@@artimist0315disagree. His only weakness is punish game. Everything else is high tier or top tier. Hes scrappy and barely relies on projectiles his projectiles rely on him.
@@TwinHacari I'm sorry but his disadvantage state really isn't. Sure his recovery goes high, but it can still get edguarded by someone who know what they are doing, and even when you are at the ledge, resetting neutral is very difficult. Villager is at his best when he can successfully wall out his oponent with slingshot and can set up a loyd rocket to create very deadly mixups, but he can't set up at all in disadvantage and he doesn't threaten a reversal at all, meaning its opponent doesn't have to respect him. I agree that villager has amazing buttons up close, especially nair, but his below average stats and low gravity makes his threat range minuscule, which makes his approaches quite predictable. He does because of that, rely on his projectile to apply pressure, have any semblance of a punish game and rack up damage. In matchups where you can't reliably use slingshot and can't use bowling ball, pocket, loyd or tree at all, his kit kinda falls apart.
@@artimist0315 None of those matchups exist because Lloyd and Tree and Slingshot are already strong in every matchup. They're universal tools. Try using them more proactively rather than reactively and they demand respect. Nair alone is good disadv and pocket as a mix up as well. Lloyd counter is also strong as a mix up. Villager is at his best when he is playing offensively. His low gravity is a result of his playerbase, not him as a character. Watch Ranai. He holds his own as a player because he knows he's playing a strong CQC fighter with nice mid range tools.
@@TwinHacari Well try to use tree and Loyd "proactivity" against a falco and come back to me. Nair is good if you are in range, which is hard as villager. And villager has a bottom 20 gravity and fall speed, of course you need to use fast fall mixups a lot when playing him but that doesn't change the fact that he can't move as fast than most characters and that his movement is more reactable. Seriously even little mac has a higher gravity. He also has a bottom 30 air acceleration and is in the bottom 25 in all other stats. And yes, I know that villager is a proactive agressive character, it doesn't change the fact that his boxing tools are much harder to use when not complemented by his set of special. And Ranai hasn't been a relevant player since smash 4
I play a pretty aggressive Villager. Very defensive but with alot of rushing. I think that's when the character shines. Hanging back and just trying to punish the opponent after moves seems lazy. Gotta get in there, spot dodge that attack and ax them to DEATH! LOL
LarryLurr beating CaptainAwsum at EVO will always be the most notable and iconic moment for this character...getting camped and put in his place. I know I know, no hate to Ranai he was sick and that Zero vs Ranai match was cool in Sm4sh, but still that moment in EVO is Villager's defining notable moment in Smash history.
I have been enjoying the character lately (low level of online smash), but their weaknesses feel pretty distinctly clear compared to other characters i play (though both are flawed, wii fit has some fantastic options and insane survivability, and inkling has a fun and creative combo game and high freedom of movement). I hope that in addition to some buffs to their general data, Villager gets a refresh in the next Smash game (whenever that happens) to match the look and abilities present in New Horizons (or really any AC game newer than City Folk lol).
Peach Ranked will be next by the way! Cheers everyone
The only thing that I already know about this video is the fact that peach is viable in evey single smash game
I once "defeated" a campy Villager using custom moves in tournament by refusing to approach until he rage quit because he literally had a train to catch.
Lol
I really love how they put him in the game! I wouldn’t have it any other way!
This is Pac-Man for me
@@nick-cepticon782 In my case it'd be Steve, he's actually why I got Smash Ultimate (Inkling too). Ironic since I ended up becoming a Mii Swordie main, at least I have them with diamond armor and tentacle hair to rep my loves.
I really hope they don't change his design in the next Smash. Let Isabelle represent modern era and let us GC fans have our classic-style rep. You're absolutely right, he's perfect.
Maybe a little less lag on Lloyd Rocket and down smash would be nice. But otherwise perfect!
@@andrewrabon No, he is not perfect literally you have a video up explaining why
You nailed Ultimate Villager's struggles on the head: he is a SSB4 character put into the wrong game.
Fundamentally, he is the exact same character as he in SSB4, but his toolkit simply doesn't fit into Ultimate's engine. Feel this way to a lesser extent to other neutral game based characters like Duck Hunt as well, but Villager is a far more egregious example due to the way his moveset is designed.
Ranai, his undisputed best player in SSB4, long since retired from competitive Smash (since late 2017) certainly doesn't help matters either.
Yeah, plenty of characters could’ve used some new attacks to switch things up going into ultimate, ALOT of the base roster characters literally feel BARE BONES compared to the DLC.
Ranai retired because he worked on ultimate
@@PrinceSamTVI don’t want all characters to have really dumb gimmicks some of the dlc characters have
@@paulakroy2635 They’re all going to be different regardless, it’s just that a lot of the veterans got no love going into ultimate. I mean look at link, even with two other incarnations of the hero in the game to preserve his old moveset, The devs STILL chose not to change him too much. If that’s not a reason to change up a characters moveset I don’t know what is.
Fundamentally he's stronger. Has better specials and edgeguarding but is not played by Ranai. Lol
Villager meme
They called me the skylander. I called them an Ambulance 🚑
By Far One Of The Best Characters When It Comes To Animations And References to the Original Source Materials.
He's better than Isabelle in every way and i think him hanging out with Doomguy would be interesting.
Since your captain Falcon video I’ve been loving your content, keep it up
Another banger honest content vid dropped 🔥
Another of Ult's forgotten characters, regularly seen as Low Tier or even one of the worst in some extreme cases, and that's a shame.
He's pretty straight-forward with defined strengths and weakness in a game with so much spicy, BS factor that doesn't draw many eyes to him similar to Lucina.
With the meta being pushed towards wild punish games, it's unlikely Villy isn't gaining any strong reps soon and IMO he doesn't deserve this overlooked reputation since he's got plenty of solid tools in his gameplan like DA, D-Smash, Nair, Slingshot, Lloid , Timber, etc
Maybe one day that will change, there are so many characters people aren't trying hard enough with, but I'm not holding my breath.
I've played him for quite a while and though it's definitely a fun and well rounded zoner, he has flaws that really doesn't help him in higher tiers :
1. He's way too reliant on projectile. If your opponent has a reflector, you will have to nair them to death.
2. His disadvantage is kinda bad, sure his recovery is good enough no he doesn't die at 20, but so many of his tools don't work in disadvantage and because of his stats he stays in it forever.
3. He can struggle to kill if he doesn't find an edguard. His best kill move is probably axe but it's not always available. Otherwise F smash is great but not in neutral, upsmash is bad and down smash has no knockback. For a character that already doesn't have may ko opportunities outside of slongshot/bowling edguard it's very hard to kill above 130.
Otherwise Villager has a very good neutral and a very solid and cheesy advantage state, but he's a bit too honest otherwise and gets overwhelmed by top tiers.
@@artimist0315disagree. His only weakness is punish game. Everything else is high tier or top tier. Hes scrappy and barely relies on projectiles his projectiles rely on him.
@@TwinHacari I'm sorry but his disadvantage state really isn't. Sure his recovery goes high, but it can still get edguarded by someone who know what they are doing, and even when you are at the ledge, resetting neutral is very difficult. Villager is at his best when he can successfully wall out his oponent with slingshot and can set up a loyd rocket to create very deadly mixups, but he can't set up at all in disadvantage and he doesn't threaten a reversal at all, meaning its opponent doesn't have to respect him. I agree that villager has amazing buttons up close, especially nair, but his below average stats and low gravity makes his threat range minuscule, which makes his approaches quite predictable. He does because of that, rely on his projectile to apply pressure, have any semblance of a punish game and rack up damage. In matchups where you can't reliably use slingshot and can't use bowling ball, pocket, loyd or tree at all, his kit kinda falls apart.
@@artimist0315 None of those matchups exist because Lloyd and Tree and Slingshot are already strong in every matchup. They're universal tools. Try using them more proactively rather than reactively and they demand respect. Nair alone is good disadv and pocket as a mix up as well. Lloyd counter is also strong as a mix up. Villager is at his best when he is playing offensively. His low gravity is a result of his playerbase, not him as a character. Watch Ranai. He holds his own as a player because he knows he's playing a strong CQC fighter with nice mid range tools.
@@TwinHacari Well try to use tree and Loyd "proactivity" against a falco and come back to me. Nair is good if you are in range, which is hard as villager. And villager has a bottom 20 gravity and fall speed, of course you need to use fast fall mixups a lot when playing him but that doesn't change the fact that he can't move as fast than most characters and that his movement is more reactable. Seriously even little mac has a higher gravity. He also has a bottom 30 air acceleration and is in the bottom 25 in all other stats. And yes, I know that villager is a proactive agressive character, it doesn't change the fact that his boxing tools are much harder to use when not complemented by his set of special. And Ranai hasn't been a relevant player since smash 4
Yesss a video on my main I'm happy :)
Probably the mist underrated channel I know of
Man Ranai in my opinion is the Goated Villager of all time he made the character look broken
I play a pretty aggressive Villager. Very defensive but with alot of rushing. I think that's when the character shines. Hanging back and just trying to punish the opponent after moves seems lazy. Gotta get in there, spot dodge that attack and ax them to DEATH! LOL
It is surreal to me that we are now in the stage where people consider the tier list for ult figured out. I blinked dude, where did the time go.
I love Villager, She’s my main and why I bought New Leaf. The only character who rival her is Isabelle.
14:41 song? Great vid as always!
Bro the fact they took away jab into axe in ultimate was criminal 😔
LarryLurr beating CaptainAwsum at EVO will always be the most notable and iconic moment for this character...getting camped and put in his place. I know I know, no hate to Ranai he was sick and that Zero vs Ranai match was cool in Sm4sh, but still that moment in EVO is Villager's defining notable moment in Smash history.
I have been enjoying the character lately (low level of online smash), but their weaknesses feel pretty distinctly clear compared to other characters i play (though both are flawed, wii fit has some fantastic options and insane survivability, and inkling has a fun and creative combo game and high freedom of movement).
I hope that in addition to some buffs to their general data, Villager gets a refresh in the next Smash game (whenever that happens) to match the look and abilities present in New Horizons (or really any AC game newer than City Folk lol).
one of my favorite characters to play as
Ssb wiiU was my childhood game and I want to play it again (my dog chewed the charger to the point of unusableness)
GnW would be interesting for this series fr
Peach is who I'm doing next. I debated Gnw tho
When are we gonna get the top tiers of smash 4?
👀👀👀👀👀👀
Cant wait for the young link ranked
VILLAGER VID LETS GO
ayyyy animal crossing hype
I LOVE playing isabell & believe there are only a few small things keeping her from being really really good!
Cool video but the boxing gloves aren't from Animal Crossing, they are Smash original
First song name?
"Mario Party 3 - Spiny Desert"
How old is Villager?
He is ,at least, 21 years old since he can fucking own a house
@@mer7074 awesome ages!
Old enough to own a house, be mayor, and move into an inhabited island
@@astropult9377 awesome!
Idk im only started playing smash bros ultimate and villager is my main for now i think there is no a really bad characters in smash bros
I hope Villager gets buffed in the future, the nerfed him so hard in ultimate
He actually got buffed. His top player left him lol.
Secret high tier
Villager is the most strange, but fun inclusion in Smash.
Hur her
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Tyyttty
Bro said Up tilt is villagers best 😂 Side Tilt is the correct answer my boy. its Literally better than side smash 🗣🗣🗣🗣
It's uptilt. Intangible, strong, active. Ftilt is just average. Like every other sword tilt.
@@TwinHacari On a character that has no range other than side b + nair/bair. Side tilt is basically a disjoint, that can combo & it kills
Best move is actually Forward Air.