Super lesson! Your tip last year on hitting the slice at 1 o'clock really transformed my game. On the ad side I use a slice as a body serve. If placed correctly it will cross opponent's body on the way in, then curve back at them on the bounce. It can also be used on the ad side down the T as it will veer away from opponent towards the deuce court.
I never realized the racquet was supposed to travel in a different direction for theses serves. The explanation involving the base line was very helpful.
Excellent instruction as always, with clear descriptions of how to execute and highly illustrative video clips and stills, Simon. I have been playing tennis for most of the last 40yrs and heard a lot of different coaches over that time. Some were good, most were middling to awful. I’ve only recently started watching tennis instruction videos once again to help me with teaching my sons this wonderful game. I dare say you’re the best coach I’ve ever come across with your outstanding articulation and approachable style of delivery. Your passion for teaching is evident and you are a credit to your profession. PS: I use the same toss to hit all the serve variations to either court. I never even realised that this is the “parallel to baseline arc” type of toss until I heard you describe it! Also, because I developed it instinctively in my early teens, it never even occurred to me that I contact the ball at different points on the arc for different spins until I watched a couple of your videos where you talk about it. I can tell you that in the early 80s, lots of coaches told me it was a bad technique since they believed that it was inconsistent compared with the vertical toss. I’m rather glad I didn’t listen to them! Personally, I found it easier to just use the same arc toss everytime, than to make slight variations in a vertical toss to suit the intended spin.
I’m still gradually working my way through all your previously posted videos. Such is the quality that I’ve committed myself to watching every one! Who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks? 😅 When I get to the end, will probably have some requests! 👍
Awesome explanation of the complexities of these different serves. Worth practicing each like crazy until you master all of them. Takes discipline to practice them on your own and experiment with all the variations of toss height/position and racket path.
Only recently have I realized that having a decent slice serve in your repertoire is a must. I have a weak kick serve, so I have to use a slice serve as a second serve from time to time not to let my opponents to get used to my kick and kill every ball easily.
I have watched VERY many serve tutorial videos, this one (and the one about the shot put ideology/weight on the back foot) are by far the best videos I have seen. Added bonus: you are showing professional examples of great serves, and are also slamming down some serious mean serves yourself. Bravo! Side note: I am watching this with subtitles on, and I enjoy the translation being "the juice side" of the court, effective "surf"s, and the "slicer", lol
Funny thing is when I first started learning serve I naturally found my slice serve with the movement of my hand before flat serve and my opponents at the same level had big trouble returning because I would hit it close to T and then when they wanted to hit a back hand their body would jam up and make an error XD then I learned my flat serve and now it's time to improve my slice serve and learn how to hit a kick serve, thanks again
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I like to use an eastern grip on my forehand it just feels better for me, are there any tips on the different types of grips and how to hit better forehands on both eastern and semi-western? I would like to know that
Before watching this video, I’ve heard to hit at 3-4, but it was a weak slice. I’ve played around hitting at 1-2 and the slice serve was powerful. You just confirmed I was doing something right
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I would appreciate seeing a forehand slice lesson which might be combined with the forehand drop shot. Also you might include the defensive forehand squash shot. Your call on separate or combination of these shots. Thanks
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Something else to consider.... I teach what I call a reverse slice to some of my better students. Essentially a right hand player hits a slice like a left hand player. The right hand player hits a slice between 10 and 11 o’clock on the ball. Primarily used to hit out wide on the ad court with the ball moving away from the returner... another service tool to keep the receiver guessing...
2:30 - Fab demonstration of the low, fast skidding bounce of the slice serve off grass. With the continued decline in grass court tennis, this particular asset of the slice serve which made it such a weapon has become less significant today. Imagine playing in the late 70s and early 80s when grass was faster, heavy tiny headed wooden racquets were the norm and all one could do was block such serves on return - hoping not to leave a floater for a put away volley. It was also routinely done on slick hard courts with similar effectiveness. It was the norm back then on first serves to aim for 3 o’clock on the ball and hit the slice with as little net clearance as possible to maximise the low skid. Not a good percentage play for second serves obviously! The 1/2 o’clock modification of modern tennis slice serve instruction reflects the evolution of the game as surfaces have got slower.
I love it. Noteworthy: about 3 minutes in and EVERY demo has been a player hitting with a platform serve. It is very easy to prematurely open the hips making it very difficult to get the "brushing up and across the ball" Simon mentions at 5:23. Many many many pinpoint servers don't have a kick, and if they do, they're not nearly as nasty as a platform server's.
Watching your Videos now for years and I have been benefitting already a lot. I totally agree on Slice explanation but have some problems with the kick serve to hit the ball at 8 to 2 . I guess I can hit the ball only at one point off center . I try to hit at 12 (maybe as an imagination only) and it works quite well. When I try the 7 to 1 ball goes over the fence.
When using the clock as a reference, am I correct to understand that the direction that the clock is facing is dependent on the direction of the racket path; in other words is the clock face perpendicular to the racket edge just before pronation starts?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Omg sorry about that :) nevertheless I've been watching you both for several years now and I do appreciate what you do. More valuable info like this in the future) and gl with turnaments!
Great training video Simon! As a lefty I have to reverse everything you say. Thanks for pointing it out too! Dunno if it’s a lefty thing but we seem to be able to generate loads of slice naturally.
Good afternoom! For me it is very dificult to perform a slice or a kick serve. I improve so much my first serve. But sometimes my operating system calls the old routine and I get in trouble when I try to serve flat in the right way. I improve so much with the tips and also because I realized that the arm moviment is pretty much the same as the volleyball serve. I am getting successful, not often, with kick serve in advantage court and slice at deuce court. But kick at deuce court and slice at advantage court are so difficult for me.
@Top Tennis Training Thank you so much for the video. I have people telling me that the kick serve can cause shoulder injuries because of impingement, is that true?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you! So what's the difference between a top spin serve and a kick serve? And what sort of a clearance should I aim for, for a top spin serve?
Amazing as always, but I have a question...do you always hold the same grip? I mean...do you close or open your grab depending on the serve? Is always one of my biggest doubts in my game and no one talks about that. Greetings from Spain.
Awesome video again Simon! Couple of details I really like (the non dominant hand out of the way on slice) but here’s my issue. When I go on court and practice serve (every other day) I get into a momentum for either of those 3... But it feels like tiny details gets tossed out the window in match play for CONSISTENCY. For example my flat serve will be doing fine but my kick serve will turn into a bit of a slice or go long too often. It could also be the opposite and I end up doing kick serve the whole match.Any suggestion to develop better consistency with different serves on the spot without having to hammer a 70 balls basket of just flat,slice or kicks prior to game time? Again, keep up the great work!
I have a doubt Simon, which are the differences between the kick and slice/flat serve regarding to the tossing arm mechanics, I see that Djokovic hit the kick serve tossing the ball pointing the arm to the net post (like on his flat and slice) and he can hit the ball in the right spot (over his head)
Hitting the slice at 1:00 really helped my serve. But I have trouble explaining this to people as doesn't that tend to drive the ball down towards the net? Or does the friction from the racket face moving up cause the ball to initially lift the ball higher so it clears the net before the spin brings it down?
No, the point of confusion is always the angle of the face. Even though you are conceiving of hitting at 1-2 o’clock, the bottom/leading edge of the racquet is always ‘in front’ of the top edge (otherwise you’d frame the ball). The while you are imparting spin, the ball rises from the racquet and arcs into the opponent’s service box. He does NOT hit the top of the ball, even though he thinks he does. You can only do this if you are well,over 6 feet tall.
hi, great content there! I've been trying the kick serve but I noticed that the ball does not have enough power to go across the net, especially when I try to focus on hitting with a circular and sideways swing path. I can generate spin but the ball ends up in my service court instead of the opponent's! Do you have any tips or advice on how to generate more forward momentum (and power) on the ball while trying to get a good kick? thanks!
Do you think it's a good idea to hit the ball around 3 o'clock if you're serving from out wide like in doubles? In that position you can get a much more extreme angle.
Hey Simon, is there a good reason why most pros, including yourself, drop the racquet head on edge as opposed to open face like Federer and Sampras? I currently open the face like Roger but I don't know if I should try to switch to an on edge drop like most pros?
With the drop on edge technique, it’s easier to get into a supinated position, especially for less flexible players. Sampras had incredible flexibility in his shoulder joint and achieved it easily through that, Federer doesn’t have the same drop or supination as Sampras. If you look at an Ivanisevic or Raonic you can see it’s really on edge as they drop it. I find the strings open method gives me a much flatter serve but not as much pop off the bounce, with the on edge method I get more spin and more precision but not such a flat serve
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Awesome, thanks for explaining! I've been wondering about this for a while and I always shank/frame the ball when I try the on edge technique
Simon, after contact i cant get my racquet strings to face the side fence, its facing the court. It happens only on the slice serve so is there anything i can do to correct it. Thank your for the lesson.
Simon when you hit a kick serve do you ever bend your wrist to wrist flexion? I sometimes do this but I still pronate. My wrist basically makes the racquet go left to right and then I pronate at the end. Should I not be doing this?
A suggestion : When coach is talking about racquet pathways, could you draw a white or yellow line for us to follow? This will allow us to see it clearly on screen, especially if watching on a mobile device. Most of us learners need to watch these techniques ON court so that means we use our mobile devices to wind and rewind the vids. Thank you so much for your detailed explanations and careful, step by step advice.
Hi! I have been hitting my forehand with western grip but now i have changed my grip to semi western. It feels very weird to me and i am making a lot of unforced errors but i will keep practicing. I would like to ask that how many hours will it take to get used to it?
It's going out to the left when I'm turning my shoulder from the left side, so when you are saying open up what do you mean exactly, thank you very much for your amazing videos
I've been developing a sweeper serve. It's lethal when hit right because it literally pulls the opponent into the first row or side fence. I got it from a new baseball pitch called a sweeper that has much bigger break. I'm gonna try to teach it to Djokovic for a handsome fee. Sure to extend his career a couple of years.
Simon man, THANK YOU! I saved the "how-to-serve" videos before to help my son. The problem is that he no longer needs the fundamentals but needs more advanced guidance with the various types of serves. I have been grabbing pieces here and there. This one video covers everything I wanted to know about the prepping and execution of the types of serves. I know we were missing details and I was desperate to find the answers. Same goes for the forehands (modern and new generation). He uses both but not knowing all the details, it makes it harder to help him. I need to find the video where you go into more detail. I only found the one where you go light on details.
Great video! I'm sure this helps the majority of players. I think it would be cool if you did some more advanced lessons. Something where instead of showing how to hit kick and slice(there are 10,000 videos of that), you show how to turn a good kick, or good slice, into a great one.
We have many “advanced lessons” on our channel that seem to get lost and never get the views they deserve due to the fact most players aren’t playing at that level.
Yes. I have been struggling with shot decision. I can hit power, spin, and placement, but alot of times I slice when I really want to hit a bakchand. It is a bad habit Thanks
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial thanks for the answer:) I agree with you. I have especially problems with the kick serve on the Deuce side, I find that the angle is so small there
I get it. For the right handed player you hit the slice serve at 1 o'clock. Then wait till about 8 o'clock and hit the kick serve. The left-handed player does the opposite. Hit the slice at 8 o'clock, wait till 1 o'clock and then hit the kick serve. Thanks, Simon.
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What about gripping the racket? Does it change?
Super lesson! Your tip last year on hitting the slice at 1 o'clock really transformed my game. On the ad side I use a slice as a body serve. If placed correctly it will cross opponent's body on the way in, then curve back at them on the bounce. It can also be used on the ad side down the T as it will veer away from opponent towards the deuce court.
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I'm literally watching this two two hours before tryouts.
How did they go?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I have weeklong tryouts, but the first day went really well, thank you for asking!
@@lilieseat12 did you make it lol
Hope you can master it n time
I never realized the racquet was supposed to travel in a different direction for theses serves. The explanation involving the base line was very helpful.
Brilliant lesson, the best I've seen yet again and just what I wanted right now.
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What an incredible gift you have to teach, Simon. Thank you so much for this video.
Many thanks for the support Philip 🙏
Excellent instruction as always, with clear descriptions of how to execute and highly illustrative video clips and stills, Simon.
I have been playing tennis for most of the last 40yrs and heard a lot of different coaches over that time. Some were good, most were middling to awful. I’ve only recently started watching tennis instruction videos once again to help me with teaching my sons this wonderful game. I dare say you’re the best coach I’ve ever come across with your outstanding articulation and approachable style of delivery. Your passion for teaching is evident and you are a credit to your profession.
PS: I use the same toss to hit all the serve variations to either court. I never even realised that this is the “parallel to baseline arc” type of toss until I heard you describe it! Also, because I developed it instinctively in my early teens, it never even occurred to me that I contact the ball at different points on the arc for different spins until I watched a couple of your videos where you talk about it. I can tell you that in the early 80s, lots of coaches told me it was a bad technique since they believed that it was inconsistent compared with the vertical toss. I’m rather glad I didn’t listen to them! Personally, I found it easier to just use the same arc toss everytime, than to make slight variations in a vertical toss to suit the intended spin.
Thank you for your kind words Jerome
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I’m still gradually working my way through all your previously posted videos. Such is the quality that I’ve committed myself to watching every one! Who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks? 😅
When I get to the end, will probably have some requests! 👍
can we get some tennis conditioning videos
Awesome explanation of the complexities of these different serves. Worth practicing each like crazy until you master all of them. Takes discipline to practice them on your own and experiment with all the variations of toss height/position and racket path.
Absolutely
Great lesson Simon! I always learn something from your videos
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My dad has me watch lots of your videos. You guys are one of the best sources of tennis information on the website.
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Only recently have I realized that having a decent slice serve in your repertoire is a must. I have a weak kick serve, so I have to use a slice serve as a second serve from time to time not to let my opponents to get used to my kick and kill every ball easily.
Keep working on it and you’ll find that difference 👍
Good luck with the improvements
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I have watched VERY many serve tutorial videos, this one (and the one about the shot put ideology/weight on the back foot) are by far the best videos I have seen. Added bonus: you are showing professional examples of great serves, and are also slamming down some serious mean serves yourself. Bravo!
Side note: I am watching this with subtitles on, and I enjoy the translation being "the juice side" of the court, effective "surf"s, and the "slicer", lol
the explanation using just visual points or certain movements makes it so much easier to adapt your existing technique. Love your videos!
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The best at explaining! I can't wait to hit the courts. 👍
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The explanation is Very detailed and easy to understand . Thanks buddy.
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Simply the best. You’re the only one that explained where on the ball to hit.
What a timing Simon! I've started working on my kick and slice serve and look what pops up in my recommendations, thanks for the great lesson!
Funny thing is when I first started learning serve I naturally found my slice serve with the movement of my hand before flat serve and my opponents at the same level had big trouble returning because I would hit it close to T and then when they wanted to hit a back hand their body would jam up and make an error XD then I learned my flat serve and now it's time to improve my slice serve and learn how to hit a kick serve, thanks again
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I like to use an eastern grip on my forehand it just feels better for me, are there any tips on the different types of grips and how to hit better forehands on both eastern and semi-western? I would like to know that
Of all youtube, yours is the best, your explanation super clear n precise always clear my doubts. Super Simon 👍👏
Tennis serve is too hard.
Your video is a very helpful tennis lesson video.
That's a lot of help. Thank you.
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Before watching this video, I’ve heard to hit at 3-4, but it was a weak slice. I’ve played around hitting at 1-2 and the slice serve was powerful. You just confirmed I was doing something right
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Another great lesson! I enjoy learning something that I can pass on to my students. Keep up the good work!
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I would appreciate seeing a forehand slice lesson which might be combined with the forehand drop shot. Also you might include the defensive forehand squash shot. Your call on separate or combination of these shots. Thanks
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Something else to consider.... I teach what I call a reverse slice to some of my better students. Essentially a right hand player hits a slice like a left hand player. The right hand player hits a slice between 10 and 11 o’clock on the ball. Primarily used to hit out wide on the ad court with the ball moving away from the returner... another service tool to keep the receiver guessing...
2:30 - Fab demonstration of the low, fast skidding bounce of the slice serve off grass. With the continued decline in grass court tennis, this particular asset of the slice serve which made it such a weapon has become less significant today. Imagine playing in the late 70s and early 80s when grass was faster, heavy tiny headed wooden racquets were the norm and all one could do was block such serves on return - hoping not to leave a floater for a put away volley. It was also routinely done on slick hard courts with similar effectiveness.
It was the norm back then on first serves to aim for 3 o’clock on the ball and hit the slice with as little net clearance as possible to maximise the low skid. Not a good percentage play for second serves obviously! The 1/2 o’clock modification of modern tennis slice serve instruction reflects the evolution of the game as surfaces have got slower.
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Nice serve variations and application. How to do a good net volley...would be an interesting topic in tennis.
I love it. Noteworthy: about 3 minutes in and EVERY demo has been a player hitting with a platform serve. It is very easy to prematurely open the hips making it very difficult to get the "brushing up and across the ball" Simon mentions at 5:23. Many many many pinpoint servers don't have a kick, and if they do, they're not nearly as nasty as a platform server's.
One of the major benefits of the platform stance is the ability to hit better kick serves.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Have you ever done a video comparing the pros/cons of platform v pinpoint?
Great explanation for serving stategy during gameplay!
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Another great lesson, I wasn't sure about the exact difference between the two serves until now ... I actually took notes ha ha
Awesome to hear 👍
Watching your Videos now for years and I have been benefitting already a lot. I totally agree on Slice explanation but have some problems with the kick serve to hit the ball at 8 to 2 . I guess I can hit the ball only at one point off center . I try to hit at 12 (maybe as an imagination only) and it works quite well. When I try the 7 to 1 ball goes over the fence.
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When using the clock as a reference, am I correct to understand that the direction that the clock is facing is dependent on the direction of the racket path; in other words is the clock face perpendicular to the racket edge just before pronation starts?
I've just learned a lot of valuable information. Thanks a lot, Alex! Great instructions!
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This was Simon btw
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Omg sorry about that :) nevertheless I've been watching you both for several years now and I do appreciate what you do. More valuable info like this in the future) and gl with turnaments!
The best explanation i ever seen for that two serves type.
Awesome tips with in-depth how! Many thx Simon!
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Great training video Simon! As a lefty I have to reverse everything you say. Thanks for pointing it out too! Dunno if it’s a lefty thing but we seem to be able to generate loads of slice naturally.
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Bravo! Super helpful! So many details included in this video!
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Is it possible to give a lesson about how to prevent tennis elbow?
Just what I needed to start the spring tennis season.
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Brilliant..worth watching this multiple times.
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Good afternoom! For me it is very dificult to perform a slice or a kick serve. I improve so much my first serve. But sometimes my operating system calls the old routine and I get in trouble when I try to serve flat in the right way. I improve so much with the tips and also because I realized that the arm moviment is pretty much the same as the volleyball serve. I am getting successful, not often, with kick serve in advantage court and slice at deuce court. But kick at deuce court and slice at advantage court are so difficult for me.
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Great tennis serve lesson by the team TTT and it is definitely fruitful and useful to the other fellow tennis players ✅👍🏻
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Great tip on pulling tossing arm away on slice to open shoulders❤
@Top Tennis Training Thank you so much for the video. I have people telling me that the kick serve can cause shoulder injuries because of impingement, is that true?
If done correctly, the kick serve shouldn’t cause shoulder issues. If you do it wrong, then for sure the stress is increased
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you! So what's the difference between a top spin serve and a kick serve? And what sort of a clearance should I aim for, for a top spin serve?
@@5s4l1p1fcw I think topspin serve is same thing as kick serve
Great video - very helpful! Just wondering where this court is where you took this video:)
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This video is brilliant im a 4.0 player and visual leaner and this video has helped so much
Thanks 🙏
Excellent work, thank you.
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Is that a CX200 Tour or some other CX version with a larger 98 sinch head?
CX 200 tour 18x20
Thanks for the video. Do you change your grip between the slice and kick serves? If you don't, which grip do you use?
Some players slightly modify the grip for the kick, I don’t personally. I use the continental grip for both
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Wow I was curios about the slice a kick thanks
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Excellent lesson sir
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Amazing as always, but I have a question...do you always hold the same grip? I mean...do you close or open your grab depending on the serve? Is always one of my biggest doubts in my game and no one talks about that.
Greetings from Spain.
I tend to use a very similar grip for all serves. There may be a slight adjustment for extreme kick serves but it’s miniature 👍
Thx Simon & well explained
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Great lesson. This video is gold review . thanks
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Awesome video again Simon! Couple of details I really like (the non dominant hand out of the way on slice) but here’s my issue. When I go on court and practice serve (every other day) I get into a momentum for either of those 3... But it feels like tiny details gets tossed out the window in match play for CONSISTENCY. For example my flat serve will be doing fine but my kick serve will turn into a bit of a slice or go long too often. It could also be the opposite and I end up doing kick serve the whole match.Any suggestion to develop better consistency with different serves on the spot without having to hammer a 70 balls basket of just flat,slice or kicks prior to game time?
Again, keep up the great work!
Focus on what helps you hit each serve well, and work on one slice, one kick, one flat in training, alternating between all three.
You'll get it
I have a doubt Simon, which are the differences between the kick and slice/flat serve regarding to the tossing arm mechanics, I see that Djokovic hit the kick serve tossing the ball pointing the arm to the net post (like on his flat and slice) and he can hit the ball in the right spot (over his head)
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absolutely fantastic video!
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Tnx a lot for these tips!
My pleasure!
What type of serve did Sampras , as he used his snap?
Is slice serve like flat serve , but you brasch the ball more?
Hitting the slice at 1:00 really helped my serve. But I have trouble explaining this to people as doesn't that tend to drive the ball down towards the net? Or does the friction from the racket face moving up cause the ball to initially lift the ball higher so it clears the net before the spin brings it down?
No, the point of confusion is always the angle of the face. Even though you are conceiving of hitting at 1-2 o’clock, the bottom/leading edge of the racquet is always ‘in front’ of the top edge (otherwise you’d frame the ball). The while you are imparting spin, the ball rises from the racquet and arcs into the opponent’s service box. He does NOT hit the top of the ball, even though he thinks he does. You can only do this if you are well,over 6 feet tall.
@@Osnosis Thank you for your good explanation.
hi, great content there! I've been trying the kick serve but I noticed that the ball does not have enough power to go across the net, especially when I try to focus on hitting with a circular and sideways swing path. I can generate spin but the ball ends up in my service court instead of the opponent's! Do you have any tips or advice on how to generate more forward momentum (and power) on the ball while trying to get a good kick? thanks!
which racket could you suggest for an intermediate player ?
Test out a few, hard to give recommendations without knowing the player/game
Great video. Thank you for making this.
Glad it was helpful!
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Do you think it's a good idea to hit the ball around 3 o'clock if you're serving from out wide like in doubles? In that position you can get a much more extreme angle.
2 is good 👍
Hey Simon, is there a good reason why most pros, including yourself, drop the racquet head on edge as opposed to open face like Federer and Sampras? I currently open the face like Roger but I don't know if I should try to switch to an on edge drop like most pros?
With the drop on edge technique, it’s easier to get into a supinated position, especially for less flexible players.
Sampras had incredible flexibility in his shoulder joint and achieved it easily through that, Federer doesn’t have the same drop or supination as Sampras.
If you look at an Ivanisevic or Raonic you can see it’s really on edge as they drop it.
I find the strings open method gives me a much flatter serve but not as much pop off the bounce, with the on edge method I get more spin and more precision but not such a flat serve
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Awesome, thanks for explaining! I've been wondering about this for a while and I always shank/frame the ball when I try the on edge technique
Simon, after contact i cant get my racquet strings to face the side fence, its facing the court. It happens only on the slice serve so is there anything i can do to correct it. Thank your for the lesson.
I wouldn’t worry too much about pronating fully on the slice, if it happens it happens but many pros don’t pronate fully when slicing the serve
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you, Simon.
Spot-on Simon
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Top lesson.👍💪✌!
Thanks! 😃
Simon when you hit a kick serve do you ever bend your wrist to wrist flexion? I sometimes do this but I still pronate. My wrist basically makes the racquet go left to right and then I pronate at the end. Should I not be doing this?
Wrist flexion can occur on the kick serve, I’d avoid doing it too much though, a slight degree is ok
You guys should make a vídeo of ur pdf . Top 5 tricks how to serve. Would be sick.
Here you go - ruclips.net/video/w03NVg7YtNo/видео.html
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial 😅 I m new on the Channel. U guys are the best . Love from Brasil 🇧🇷💪🔥
A suggestion : When coach is talking about racquet pathways, could you draw a white or yellow line for us to follow? This will allow us to see it clearly on screen, especially if watching on a mobile device. Most of us learners need to watch these techniques ON court so that means we use our mobile devices to wind and rewind the vids. Thank you so much for your detailed explanations and careful, step by step advice.
Hi! I have been hitting my forehand with western grip but now i have changed my grip to semi western. It feels very weird to me and i am making a lot of unforced errors but i will keep practicing. I would like to ask that how many hours will it take to get used to it?
Normally it takes around 2,500 shots to start getting to grips with the new technique/grip/stroke
Hello Simon
For the slice serve,( in the left side,)when I'm turning my shoulder it's going out why?
Open up slightly later and see what happens 👍
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I didn't understand actually
It's going out to the left when I'm turning my shoulder from the left side, so when you are saying open up what do you mean exactly, thank you very much for your amazing videos
Great video like always...
Thanks for the support 🙏
I like your video. thanks
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I've been developing a sweeper serve. It's lethal when hit right because it literally pulls the opponent into the first row or side fence. I got it from a new baseball pitch called a sweeper that has much bigger break. I'm gonna try to teach it to Djokovic for a handsome fee. Sure to extend his career a couple of years.
Is a flat serve good for someone short like me? I'm only 5'7
Normally no, spin serves would be better
A great lesson... In need of a racket
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should you supinate or pronate in the slice serve?
Both, less pronation prior to contact then full pronation
That was great. Very informative
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Great lesson.
Thank you for watching
Simon man, THANK YOU! I saved the "how-to-serve" videos before to help my son. The problem is that he no longer needs the fundamentals but needs more advanced guidance with the various types of serves. I have been grabbing pieces here and there. This one video covers everything I wanted to know about the prepping and execution of the types of serves. I know we were missing details and I was desperate to find the answers.
Same goes for the forehands (modern and new generation). He uses both but not knowing all the details, it makes it harder to help him. I need to find the video where you go into more detail. I only found the one where you go light on details.
Well done!
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Super helpful! Thank you, coach!
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Simon
awesome thank you
Thanks for watching 👍
What raquette you using?
A Dunlop CX 200 tour frame
Great video! I'm sure this helps the majority of players. I think it would be cool if you did some more advanced lessons. Something where instead of showing how to hit kick and slice(there are 10,000 videos of that), you show how to turn a good kick, or good slice, into a great one.
We have many “advanced lessons” on our channel that seem to get lost and never get the views they deserve due to the fact most players aren’t playing at that level.
Do you still pronate when hitting kick serve?
I needed this video !!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
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Great video 👌👍
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Anyone else crack themselves in the shin with the racquet while learning the kick serve? F***in hurts.
I did that a lot as a junior 😂 had bruises all the way up my legs
What strings are you using?
Cheap poly strings
I can't get power in kick serve 🙄..thanks for all your videos 🙌🙌
Get our free serve power guide here - www.top-tennis-training.com/free-guide/
i can.t find kick serve guide
Thanks ✨🙌
is Kickserve the same as TopSpin Serve?
Very similar, kick is more side spin whereas the topspin serve is pure topspin in general. But the motion is almost the same
what string is that on your racket?
I am a huge fan simon
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Yes. I have been struggling with shot decision. I can hit power, spin, and placement, but alot of times I slice when I really want to hit a bakchand. It is a bad habit
Thanks
Isn’t it easier to hit a Slice serve on the deuce side and a kick serve on the Ad side, because the angle is bigger?( right handed player)
Yes it is, but with practice you can do both sides effectively
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial thanks for the answer:) I agree with you. I have especially problems with the kick serve on the Deuce side, I find that the angle is so small there
I get it. For the right handed player you hit the slice serve at 1 o'clock. Then wait till about 8 o'clock and hit the kick serve. The left-handed player does the opposite. Hit the slice at 8 o'clock, wait till 1 o'clock and then hit the kick serve. Thanks, Simon.
Not quite, left handers would hit the slice serve at 11 and kick from 4-10
Wonderful
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but how can we time it to avoid pausing on the swing
Time the toss, so that you can have a continuous motion
Where is this location? just awesome.
Oxford, England
Great video, but every slice serve looks to be out, or just wide
Well, I wouldn’t want to play you in a match #dodgylinecalls
Interessante bravo
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