This is one of the best explanations of hitting a slice serve, bar none. Simon explains not only where on the ball to hit (i.e., between 1:00 and 2:00 o'clock), but takes pains to differentiate between hitting around the edge, and - correctly - hitting on the front face in the 1-to-2 o'clock zone, after the racquet begins to open up (pronates). Too many videos on YT ignore this subtlety entirely. Well, done Simon.
"But that is just a working mental image for the contact point on the ball in a slice serve." Yeah, no kidding. "Rather the REAL correct spot of the (first) contact on the ball should be somewhere nearer four or five o'clock and from there upwards or towards 10-11 o'clock." That's your opinion, period. Regardless of what AA may proclaim, an overwhelming number of pros and instructors advocate a 2:00 to 3:30 contact point. Crucial to understanding this range is that some players are tall enough to hit somewhat downward, while many cannot.
Am I missing the part where Jack says this is for a lefthander? Unless I have forgotten how to read my watch, from 4 to 10 has you hitting from right to left. Pretty hard to do for a righty, unless you throw the ball MASSIVELY over your head and somehow hit a reverse kick. Impressive! Then you call the Guinness people, register for the World Record, and then promptly drive yourself to the hospital, 'cause you're gonna need major back surgery, and STAT!
Best break down on RUclips. All the subtle things about the slice covered. And your demonstration is the always the best. Some teachers do the demo and I'm like oh shit I'm gonna get killed if I hit a serve like that. 😆
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Hi Simon, 4.5 player here, it’s hard to break through to the next level for some reason. I do very much enjoy your videos, i can always refine my game using your suggestions.
yr an awesome coach. I like how you reel off info, explaining it one way then the next then maybe even a third way, or a rehash to reinforce the most important parts
I take a lot of lessons and check out videos from time to time to try to pick up some additional insights. Your videos are exceptional. I've learned more from them than from any other internet source. Just wanted to say thanks and keep up the great work. Your tip about what it means to hit the ball between 1 and 2 was extremely helpful to me. I've never looked at it that way and this will help me serve the best I can.
love the video simon, i like the explanation about what most coaches teach and why it is better to do it otherwise. Also it is very applicable from beginners level all the way to competition players. The comparison with flat , kick and slice serves in the end made it even better. Please do all videos like that from now on : D
Throwing our shoulder to the ball! This year flat serve, slice serve and kick serve will be consecutively understood for my better game. Thanks a lot for your good helpful explanation.
Really excellent explanation of technique and contact point for the slice serve! One thing about the single position ball toss. Pete Sampras is often cited as the finest example the single position ball toss for any serve technique. Yet in an article on serving which he did for Tennis magazine years ago, he mentioned that this was one of the most exaggerated stories about this game. He stated that even he used different toss positions since this helped to increase the degree of spin for each serve type. However, what was important was to keep it sufficiently close so that it was hard for opponents to get a read on it; ie: choose a balance between increasing the spin vs keeping the disguise. I suppose what he felt he did might not be what his opponents saw! Boris Becker certainly said on more than one occasion that Pete had one of the most unreadable serves he ever played against!
Sampras' toss was a rainbow shape, from the right side of his body to the left, in line with the baseline. He could make contact at various locations along that rainbow, keeping his toss the same for every serve yet allowing him the flexibility he wanted for different spins/serves
Great video Simon. I think the best description is to hit the ball from the front at 1 or 2 o'clock. Many times players use to hit the ball from the side and the ball falls into the net..
the most advance video I have found on the slice serve. I really appreciated the details about hitting at 1 to is on the BACK of the ball with the edge of the racket. the future ideas such as tossing forward for more pace as you get better means I will be watching this great video for quite some time as I improve says this 4.0 player.
It would be really helpful Simon to see the ball toss from along the base line to your right, in order to understand exactly how far in front the toss should be. But, all in all a great video that transformed my slice serve. Many thanks!!
I'm going to try that "front face" approach that I've never come across before and commented on below by Francis Kwok.I think I've always been struggling to hit the side of the ball and getting no power or reliability with that approach. Thank you Simon, glad to be a new subscriber now!
Nice tips. Would you share also the aim as to where to aim for wide, middle and the T on the ad and deuce side, and where the shoulders should be pointing. Thanks.
"Throw your shoulder to the ball". I've been struggling for years to "use my body more" on the serve with little success. I believe this mental image was the piece that was missing. Tried shadow swinging and it feels massive. I realize I've been getting power until now from my wrist, elbow and shoulder, but not rotation. Cannot wait to try it. Thank you!
Great video as always. I have trouble making contact with the ball at the desired point, e.g., 3 o'clock, etc. Any recommendations to hit a specific point on the ball rather just making "general" ball contact?
For the slice serve focus on the top right edge, if you imagine the ball as a flat image it would be easier to make contact there. If you’re trying to hit the side of the ball, it could become a problem
Thank you for being precise and to the point. Just a request that if as a ratio out of 3 videos could you focus on left handers as there are hardly any techniques taught keeping left handed players in mind.
Great Lesson. You might not get back to this question since the video is from the past but I struggle with framing my slice serve at times. Dumb of me to not be fully aware, but I am unsure if I am framing with the leading edge or the trailing edge. What am I doing wrong and what can I do to correct it?
Make sure you're really tracking the ball onto the strings, so keeping the head up for longer. This video may help - ruclips.net/video/kK769DLhv8s/видео.html
Amazing video Simon, props, your channel is one of the best aswell, there are many tennis instructions on youtube but alot of them offer quite a lot of wrong advice, and might hurt players more than help them, but you and alex really offer great and solid advice always. Any plans to perhaps make a similar video of the kick serve? Its quite a fascinating serve, one that kicks to the opposite direction, would really love to see how you view it and talk about it. Greetings from Slovenia (Maybe you visit here someday haha).
Thanks for watching Alen X and thanks for the nice comments. I made a kick serve video a few weeks ago, here is the link - ruclips.net/video/yjpi0cMrkyw/видео.html
I've also heard him say that you should drop your head prior to contact on the serve and that you don't need to watch the ball. Wouldn't listen to everything the guy says. . .
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial you got it nailed Simon! And I get it some great players will tell you the way some quirky way it works for them. But won't work for most . Mac stood side saddle to serve. Worked for him..... Probably the disguise and opponents not used to it factor.
Great explainations but it'd be good if there were more slow motion parts. Also, which part of the raquette do you hit when you do a slice serve? Thanks!
Thank you for this! Am I correct that you don't pronate as much during a slice serve? Also, is it right if I do a "scooping" action at the end of my swing?
Simon, how do I also add a topspin component to the slice serve? I believe this is what you refer to as the "slick" serve in your other videos. I'd like to use this as my second serve. If I still make contact at 2 o'clock, there is no more room to go up to add topspin..
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thanks for the quick reply, Simon! By up and across, do you mean you make contact at 4 o'clock in front of the ball and then finish at 11 o'clock? Assuming the ball toss is at 1 o'clock, what is the swing path? Sorry to ask you again.
A nice way of describing how to hit the "FRONT (and not the SIDE) of the ball at 1 or 2 o'clock" is to imagine a SMALLER clock, smaller than the size of the ball itself, so that when you hit 1:30 say, you're striking the face of the ball and not the very edge. Just a thought, keep up the great work - JD Montreal
Aw man, I was just joking! I thought my self-deprecating humour might jostle a fun response out of you, hope it wasn't misunderstood. As always, keep up the good work.
[WARNING: LONG MESSAGE FOLLOWS. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK AND PERIL] [*OR* WHEN YOUR BOSS IS LOOKING SO HE THINKS YOU'RE ACTUALLY WORKING] I'm curious as to what might happen if you actually tested this (small clock) idea out on a hapless and unsuspecting student. I'm thinking of creating a website for wheelchair tennis players as there is a real dearth (you know, like a paucity) of sites for the "sit-down game" (aka the SIDDOWN! game). Full Disclosure: I myself don't visualize a clock of any size, just a giant, and admittedly quite faint, arrow. Perhaps I should be the guinea pig myself, and make my visualizations more vivid, see what happens. You, in the meantime, try out my "Baby Clock"™ idea - free of charge (!) for the probationary period - and we'll trade info's - once you sign the NDA*, of course! (God, I'm such an @$$!) * non-disclosure agreement. Check out the alphabet soup this Wikipedia entry yielded: A non-disclosure agreement (NDA), also known as a confidentiality agreement (CA), confidential disclosure agreement (CDA), proprietary information agreement (PIA) or secrecy agreement (SA), is a legal contract between at least two parties, blah, blah, blah... Yikes, Ike! It's like a bowlful of that sugary-letter cereal we all ate as kids - well, except for the Russian and Greek kids, they all had ta - aaaw, SHUDDUP! ...and SIDDOWN!
I'm just getting back into tennis 🎾 and this series of Videos honestly helps a great deal. The explanation and examples are insanely well done and I've been practicing the kick serve after watching this video yesterday in the afternoon. I'm not quite sure if I'm doing it correctly when it does come out. But, whenever it does go over the net it has this semi-high arc and quickly dips into a high bounce. Am I doing it correctly, or where am I going wrong if I am doing it incorrectly?
Good video and you have a pretty good slice serve from the deuce court with very good placement and control. When I try the slice serve from the deuce court it goes in the doubles alley if not out of the court.
Thanks for watching. If your slice serve is going wide, it probably means you are hitting the side of the ball (3 o'clock) too much instead of the upper right hand side (1-2 o'clock). Try to change the angle of the strings slightly as you make contact and you'll see a difference.
@transklutz - Try to open the shoulders more prior to contact and aim wider. Common issue is slicing the ball but staying side on to the net for too long. You'll get the slice but not the width.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Can you do a tutorial on slicing serve down the T? I know it's similar to slicing out wide but just not very sure on the toss, and where to hit the ball on the clock. Is it about 12:30 on the face or still at 1 o'clock on the face of the ball? Those were some sweet T slice serves that Sam hit.
Watched this once again. You hit some killer slice serves as they were good pace and bounced into the side fence. Just about as good as Sampras who would go to that power slice and back it up with a killer volley ( if it wasn't an ace). This is the best step by step instruction for the slice serve. Even ATP players should refresh themselves with this. I watch a lot of ATP guys serve crappy slice serves that don't go short in the box and hang up in the returners strike zone and get crushed. As an ex pitcher in baseball it's exactly like a hanging slider that gets shit on.. Lol😮😢😂
Hi Simon, great video. I have a couple of questions: 1. The position of the leading foot, should it be parallel with the base line? 2. Any tips for mastering the shoulder over shoulder move, I struggle with this? Cheers.
Hi Brian, the front foot can be positioned differently depending on: 1. Your stance, pinpoint, platform or hybrid 2. How much rotation you want with the lower body For the shoulder over shoulder action, it's something we cover in depth inside our Serve Revolution course, that would be your best resource for drills etc Thanks for watching. All the best Simon
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons Thanks for your response Simon. I have a platform stance and currently my leading foot is diagonal facing the net post. I’m getting a lot of lower body turn and finding on the slice the ball going too wide with plenty of net clearance.
love this vid. Thanks I will experimental and master it! btw. I got my kick works but how to hit shorter with more angle wide? Do you have a video for that? appreciate that! :)
Wow haven’t even watched the full video yet, but I just had to comment about Sam Groth’s insane slice serve!! I mean holy shit, I don’t know how anyone could return that type of slice serve. Because it’s so damn fast and curving away from the returner. Anyway, back to the video lol.
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This is one of the best explanations of hitting a slice serve, bar none. Simon explains not only where on the ball to hit (i.e., between 1:00 and 2:00 o'clock), but takes pains to differentiate between hitting around the edge, and - correctly - hitting on the front face in the 1-to-2 o'clock zone, after the racquet begins to open up (pronates). Too many videos on YT ignore this subtlety entirely. Well, done Simon.
Thank you Francis for watching and that nice comment. Greatly appreciated!
"But that is just a working mental image for the contact point on the ball in a slice serve."
Yeah, no kidding.
"Rather the REAL correct spot of the (first) contact on the ball should be somewhere nearer four or five o'clock and from there upwards or towards 10-11 o'clock."
That's your opinion, period. Regardless of what AA may proclaim, an overwhelming number of pros and instructors advocate a 2:00 to 3:30 contact point. Crucial to understanding this range is that some players are tall enough to hit somewhat downward, while many cannot.
Am I missing the part where Jack says this is for a lefthander? Unless I have forgotten how to read my watch, from 4 to 10 has you hitting from right to left. Pretty hard to do for a righty, unless you throw the ball MASSIVELY over your head and somehow hit a reverse kick. Impressive! Then you call the Guinness people, register for the World Record, and then promptly drive yourself to the hospital, 'cause you're gonna need major back surgery, and STAT!
Thank you very much for this I’m 13 and this has helped me a lot in tournaments keep it up bro
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Thats the best slice serve i have seen from an online coach
Many thanks 🙏
Good explanation my friend!
Many thanks 🙏
Thanks for this video man, best tutorial for the slice serve i have seen. Very very good.
Many thanks 🙏
Good explanation of the difference between a curve and a flat slider.
This is simply the best instructional video on slice serve. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful and thank you for the kind comment.
All the best
Simon
Best break down on RUclips. All the subtle things about the slice covered. And your demonstration is the always the best. Some teachers do the demo and I'm like oh shit I'm gonna get killed if I hit a serve like that. 😆
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Simon
Always like your videos Simon. Sometimes i watch the old videos just to review. Good job!
Thank you for watching 👍
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Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Hi Simon, 4.5 player here, it’s hard to break through to the next level for some reason. I do very much enjoy your videos, i can always refine my game using your suggestions.
Great explanation for the 3 different serves. Will try the steps and see how it goes. Thanks.
Thanks for watching
Hope it works well for you
All the best
Simon
yr an awesome coach. I like how you reel off info, explaining it one way then the next then maybe even a third way, or a rehash to reinforce the most important parts
Thank you for watching
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Simon
Thanks will try this as struggling with my 2nd serve.
Good luck with the improvements
Best slice serve instruction that I have seen.
I take a lot of lessons and check out videos from time to time to try to pick up some additional insights. Your videos are exceptional. I've learned more from them than from any other internet source. Just wanted to say thanks and keep up the great work. Your tip about what it means to hit the ball between 1 and 2 was extremely helpful to me. I've never looked at it that way and this will help me serve the best I can.
Awesome to hear. Thanks for the nice feedback.
All the best
Simon
love the video simon, i like the explanation about what most coaches teach and why it is better to do it otherwise. Also it is very applicable from beginners level all the way to competition players. The comparison with flat , kick and slice serves in the end made it even better. Please do all videos like that from now on : D
Your Tennis videos are excellent Simon. I am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you for your hard work
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Thank you for your instruction
You are welcome 🙏
I've always wanted to learn slicing and now thanks to you I have a good concept, thank you!!
Very clear explanations and demonstrations. Simple and efficient! You are one of the best RUclipsr of tennis coaching.
Thanks for watching
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Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I will watch all the tennis coaching you have done. Of course including 2020.
Greatest slice serve instructions 🎾🥇🏆
Many thanks 🙏
Great lesson Simon. I will put this into my game and hopefully master the slice serve.
well done Simon best teaching pros nice and clear
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Excellent. Thank you. I just shared with my doubles partner. Now I'm going to force her to practice it - well, I can try to encourage 😱
Throwing our shoulder to the ball! This year flat serve, slice serve and kick serve will be consecutively understood for my better game. Thanks a lot for your good helpful explanation.
Thank you very much. Would be great if you could show us the different serves in slow motion also.
Thank you for watching.
We have slow motion serves here - ruclips.net/video/aFwFklEQrf0/видео.html
very good instruction and awesome serve.
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Great explanation macho!!!
Great instruction
Thanks for watching.
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Simon
Great Lesson ! Thanks mate
Thank you for watching 👍
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Sick slice, man!
Another excellent, clear, easy to follow very helpful video. Thank you.
Thank you for watching, we hope the videos have helped your game!
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Really excellent explanation of technique and contact point for the slice serve!
One thing about the single position ball toss. Pete Sampras is often cited as the finest example the single position ball toss for any serve technique. Yet in an article on serving which he did for Tennis magazine years ago, he mentioned that this was one of the most exaggerated stories about this game. He stated that even he used different toss positions since this helped to increase the degree of spin for each serve type. However, what was important was to keep it sufficiently close so that it was hard for opponents to get a read on it; ie: choose a balance between increasing the spin vs keeping the disguise.
I suppose what he felt he did might not be what his opponents saw! Boris Becker certainly said on more than one occasion that Pete had one of the most unreadable serves he ever played against!
Sampras' toss was a rainbow shape, from the right side of his body to the left, in line with the baseline. He could make contact at various locations along that rainbow, keeping his toss the same for every serve yet allowing him the flexibility he wanted for different spins/serves
Great video Simon. I think the best description is to hit the ball from the front at 1 or 2 o'clock. Many times players use to hit the ball from the side and the ball falls into the net..
Excellent video content
Many thanks 🙏
the most advance video I have found on the slice serve. I really appreciated the details about hitting at 1 to is on the BACK of the ball with the edge of the racket. the future ideas such as tossing forward for more pace as you get better means I will be watching this great video for quite some time as I improve says this 4.0 player.
It would be really helpful Simon to see the ball toss from along the base line to your right, in order to understand exactly how far in front the toss should be. But, all in all a great video that transformed my slice serve. Many thanks!!
I'm going to try that "front face" approach that I've never come across before and commented on below by Francis Kwok.I think I've always been struggling to hit the side of the ball and getting no power or reliability with that approach. Thank you Simon, glad to be a new subscriber now!
Thanks for watching and joining the TTT squad.
All the best
Simon
If I could hit a slice serve like you....I'd win every match around here. That's killer.
Haha now you can Ken with these three tips.
Thanks for watching.
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Simon
Great slice serve. Very excellent instruction. Thanks.
Great tutorial. You are an excellent instructor.
Great video brother. A very well thought out explanation. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
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Simon
chingon, me ha servido mucho tus clases realmente he subido mi juego mucho, muchas gracias desde mexico
Gracias por mirar, ¿hay alguna lección que le gustaría ver en el futuro cercano?
Todo lo mejor
Simón
Great breakdown!
Excelent video Simon, I'll put this in practice next week :)
Thanks for watching,
All the best
Simon
Nice tips. Would you share also the aim as to where to aim for wide, middle and the T on the ad and deuce side, and where the shoulders should be pointing. Thanks.
So how to direct the ball on serve?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Yes. Thanks.
❤❤❤ now im good at serve
Vamos 💪
Great explanation and demo Coach, thank you!
"Throw your shoulder to the ball". I've been struggling for years to "use my body more" on the serve with little success. I believe this mental image was the piece that was missing. Tried shadow swinging and it feels massive. I realize I've been getting power until now from my wrist, elbow and shoulder, but not rotation. Cannot wait to try it. Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
All the best
Simon
Good video info.
👍
Great video as always. I have trouble making contact with the ball at the desired point, e.g., 3 o'clock, etc. Any recommendations to hit a specific point on the ball rather just making "general" ball contact?
For the slice serve focus on the top right edge, if you imagine the ball as a flat image it would be easier to make contact there. If you’re trying to hit the side of the ball, it could become a problem
One great video again!! Nice jobb! Make one more video about 1 hand backhand, thanks! 👍
Here you go - ruclips.net/p/PLJP-Wou-v6z0KORN4JNFVPEii1mxYaymB
Thank you for being precise and to the point. Just a request that if as a ratio out of 3 videos could you focus on left handers as there are hardly any techniques taught keeping left handed players in mind.
Great video..love the accent, step number free
Wonderful! Could you add a video on the underhand serve? I have a bad shoulder.
Beautiful , Beautiful , Beautiful .
Thank you so much 😀
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Very clear and easy to understand. Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
All the best
Simon
simply Perfect! good job.
Thanks for watching Luigi
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I'd like to see videos on tennis Tactics.
Thanks from Argentina bro!
Thanks for tuning in
We were in Argentina in 2016 with Nalbandian, we had a great time.
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fantastic explanation , will try this technique in the week end , thank you
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Great Lesson. You might not get back to this question since the video is from the past but I struggle with framing my slice serve at times. Dumb of me to not be fully aware, but I am unsure if I am framing with the leading edge or the trailing edge. What am I doing wrong and what can I do to correct it?
Make sure you're really tracking the ball onto the strings, so keeping the head up for longer.
This video may help - ruclips.net/video/kK769DLhv8s/видео.html
good lesson i liked. thanks.
i like a slight eastern grip, and then adjusting the wrist a bit, before contact, to get the desired amount of slice.
very well explained. Good theory and showcasing. Keep it up
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Great Video! Awesome!
Amazing video Simon, props, your channel is one of the best aswell, there are many tennis instructions on youtube but alot of them offer quite a lot of wrong advice, and might hurt players more than help them, but you and alex really offer great and solid advice always.
Any plans to perhaps make a similar video of the kick serve? Its quite a fascinating serve, one that kicks to the opposite direction, would really love to see how you view it and talk about it.
Greetings from Slovenia (Maybe you visit here someday haha).
Thanks for watching Alen X and thanks for the nice comments.
I made a kick serve video a few weeks ago, here is the link - ruclips.net/video/yjpi0cMrkyw/видео.html
Hi, This was very simple and effective video sincerely appreciate your efforts. Vijay
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial - Do you have any similar videos on how to do to good backhand slice ! Thanks in advance. Vijay
Great video.
Thank you for watching 👍
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Hey Simon, when you say snapping what does that mean exactly, because I know you said not your wrists, but what does that feel like?
Forearm snap, supinated position to pronated position
Great explanation
Great lesson and video !!!
Thank you Daniel
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Simon
Would it help to think of a clock in the center of the ball with the face about the size of a dime or nickle?
It could help, the main thing is to experiment and see what does the trick for you
I found a pat cash's video here in youtube ; he said that the trick is to change the grip from continental to eastern,for slice.
I've also heard him say that you should drop your head prior to contact on the serve and that you don't need to watch the ball. Wouldn't listen to everything the guy says. . .
Ya Eastern grip doesn’t allow you to pronate
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial you got it nailed Simon! And I get it some great players will tell you the way some quirky way it works for them. But won't work for most . Mac stood side saddle to serve. Worked for him..... Probably the disguise and opponents not used to it factor.
Always good stuff Simon! Love it. Can't wait to put it into practice and mix it up with my kick serve.
Thank you Ed, good luck with the slice serves.
All the best
Simon
Great explainations but it'd be good if there were more slow motion parts. Also, which part of the raquette do you hit when you do a slice serve? Thanks!
Hi. Thanks for the video. If I hit the ball from 8 to 2 o'clock, is it good enough to generate slice ?
Hi Raymond, hitting the ball from 8-2 o'clock is the method for a kick serve, not the slice.
Aim to hit the ball at 1 o'clock for a good slice serve
Okay. I aim for 1 o'clock and my racquet face goes up towards the ball ya ?
11:05 very true. Also, if the opponent is reading the slice, and moving to the right, you can still hit the slice down the T.
Exactly, you can always mix it up
Thank you for this! Am I correct that you don't pronate as much during a slice serve? Also, is it right if I do a "scooping" action at the end of my swing?
You pronate less prior to contact but the top servers still pronate fully after contact 👍
Simon, how do I also add a topspin component to the slice serve? I believe this is what you refer to as the "slick" serve in your other videos. I'd like to use this as my second serve. If I still make contact at 2 o'clock, there is no more room to go up to add topspin..
If you want slice and topspin, aim for 4 o’clock and carve up and across the ball
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thanks for the quick reply, Simon! By up and across, do you mean you make contact at 4 o'clock in front of the ball and then finish at 11 o'clock? Assuming the ball toss is at 1 o'clock, what is the swing path? Sorry to ask you again.
A nice way of describing how to hit the "FRONT (and not the SIDE) of the ball at 1 or 2 o'clock" is to imagine a SMALLER clock, smaller than the size of the ball itself, so that when you hit 1:30 say, you're striking the face of the ball and not the very edge. Just a thought, keep up the great work - JD Montreal
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Simon
Yes, but what did you think of my (copyright-worthy) idea? Or was it, "Thanks for playing...now SIDDOWN!"
Aw man, I was just joking! I thought my self-deprecating humour might jostle a fun response out of you, hope it wasn't misunderstood. As always, keep up the good work.
Haha no problem. Honestly I didn't see your reply until now.
I like your idea.
All the best
Simon
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[*OR* WHEN YOUR BOSS IS LOOKING SO HE THINKS YOU'RE ACTUALLY WORKING]
I'm curious as to what might happen if you actually tested this (small clock) idea out on a hapless and unsuspecting student. I'm thinking of creating a website for wheelchair tennis players as there is a real dearth (you know, like a paucity) of sites for the "sit-down game" (aka the SIDDOWN! game).
Full Disclosure: I myself don't visualize a clock of any size, just a giant, and admittedly quite faint, arrow. Perhaps I should be the guinea pig myself, and make my visualizations more vivid, see what happens. You, in the meantime, try out my "Baby Clock"™ idea - free of charge (!) for the probationary period - and we'll trade info's - once you sign the NDA*, of course! (God, I'm such an @$$!)
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Yikes, Ike! It's like a bowlful of that sugary-letter cereal we all ate as kids - well, except for the Russian and Greek kids, they all had ta - aaaw, SHUDDUP! ...and SIDDOWN!
How do you get used to the pronation after hitting the slice serve to the follow through?
We cover that inside our serve revolution course in depth.
A step by step progression is the quickest way to learn it.
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Simon
that first serve was nice!
Thank you for watching.
Any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
Simon
Excellent explanation! I'll try to do this serve! 👏👏👏
you have a great slice serve !!!
Thanks dude, you're my favorite vlogger on RUclips. Awesome!!!
Thank you for a great video on slice serve.
Thank you for watching
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Simon
Great all video. Thanks
Thanks for watching
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Simon
Thanks very helpful
I'm just getting back into tennis 🎾 and this series of Videos honestly helps a great deal.
The explanation and examples are insanely well done and I've been practicing the kick serve after watching this video yesterday in the afternoon.
I'm not quite sure if I'm doing it correctly when it does come out. But, whenever it does go over the net it has this semi-high arc and quickly dips into a high bounce. Am I doing it correctly, or where am I going wrong if I am doing it incorrectly?
That sounds good, a good kick off the bounce indicates good spin levels which is crucial for the high bounce that you want
Good video and you have a pretty good slice serve from the deuce court with very good placement and control.
When I try the slice serve from the deuce court it goes in the doubles alley if not out of the court.
Thanks for watching. If your slice serve is going wide, it probably means you are hitting the side of the ball (3 o'clock) too much instead of the upper right hand side (1-2 o'clock). Try to change the angle of the strings slightly as you make contact and you'll see a difference.
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I will try that tommorrow at the club, thanks.
Whereas my natural swing tends to take the ball to the opponent's backhand, I struggle to slice wide to the forehand.
@transklutz - Try to open the shoulders more prior to contact and aim wider. Common issue is slicing the ball but staying side on to the net for too long. You'll get the slice but not the width.
Who was serving at 1:24? Can you do a video on slicing down the T? Thank you
Sam Groth, the worlds fastest server
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Can you do a tutorial on slicing serve down the T? I know it's similar to slicing out wide but just not very sure on the toss, and where to hit the ball on the clock. Is it about 12:30 on the face or still at 1 o'clock on the face of the ball? Those were some sweet T slice serves that Sam hit.
Watched this once again. You hit some killer slice serves as they were good pace and bounced into the side fence. Just about as good as Sampras who would go to that power slice and back it up with a killer volley ( if it wasn't an ace). This is the best step by step instruction for the slice serve. Even ATP players should refresh themselves with this. I watch a lot of ATP guys serve crappy slice serves that don't go short in the box and hang up in the returners strike zone and get crushed. As an ex pitcher in baseball it's exactly like a hanging slider that gets shit on.. Lol😮😢😂
Best channel
Great video. I’ll try tomorrow :)
Many thanks and good luck
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Simon
great video, thanks!! and im looking for all white racquet, where can i get it?
Thanks for watching. The white racket is a prototype so not available just yet.
Stay tuned though.
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Simon
Great video as always I appreciate it!
Hi Simon, great video. I have a couple of questions: 1. The position of the leading foot, should it be parallel with the base line? 2. Any tips for mastering the shoulder over shoulder move, I struggle with this? Cheers.
Hi Brian, the front foot can be positioned differently depending on:
1. Your stance, pinpoint, platform or hybrid
2. How much rotation you want with the lower body
For the shoulder over shoulder action, it's something we cover in depth inside our Serve Revolution course, that would be your best resource for drills etc
Thanks for watching.
All the best
Simon
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons Thanks for your response Simon. I have a platform stance and currently my leading foot is diagonal facing the net post. I’m getting a lot of lower body turn and finding on the slice the ball going too wide with plenty of net clearance.
One of you best videos Simon! Thanks men!
Thank you for watching.
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Simon
love this vid. Thanks I will experimental and master it! btw. I got my kick works but how to hit shorter with more angle wide? Do you have a video for that? appreciate that! :)
Wow haven’t even watched the full video yet, but I just had to comment about Sam Groth’s insane slice serve!! I mean holy shit, I don’t know how anyone could return that type of slice serve. Because it’s so damn fast and curving away from the returner. Anyway, back to the video lol.
tram lines, haha love it.
sick serve btw.