How to Build a deck- DIY Style -in 3 days Step by step Beginners guide
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- How to build a outdoor wood deck- by yourself in just 3 days. DIY style step by step deck building & construction guide, framing, Menards deck hand rails -everything
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Question: Franky do you actually think you can build the deck by yourself just in 3 days? The best answer ever said: "If I slow down."
Be sure to use 2x10 joist hangers when framing 2x10 floor joist not 2x4 hangers as shown in this video. Also be sure to use 3" galvanized nails for the toe nailed locations of the joist hangers .
On another note, on an elevated deck the balusters should be fastened on the inside note outside for additional safety as well as using more than one screw on each at the top of each baluster . Through time when the pressure treated lumber dries the screws can loosen and therefore if a child ever were to lean against them they could pop off.
Losts of incorrectness in the video. I have only built 2 decks as a helper I can already point out multiple things wrong.
@@Thenotfunnyperson what else?
Agree 👍
So, much for Franklins years of experience lol great information.
Nice video! One thing I prefer when building a deck is building a bridge for the joists to sit on rather than nailing the joists to the face plate. Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome and thanks for the input!
"Do you think you can be done in three day?" "If I slow down" ha I love that.
Frankie is the Bomb!
Been slowly converting everything to Makita for about a year now. Excellent tools.
Overall great tips. Thanks! Use simpson strong tie screws with the joist hanger brackets. They are hardened and designed to transfer the load. Also use proper sized joist hangers (not 2x4 hangers). Use stucco spacers (deck spacers) when attaching the ledger to stucco so water drains out.
When I saw the LUS24 I was like..what code officer allows that?
Hey Eric! Not sure you'll get a chance to read this but I might need to install a ledger on my stucco house. I've read varying opinions on whether or not you can install a ledger over top stucco or if you have to take out the stucco. Do you have any opinions? If you can attach the ledger on top of the stucco with spacers, as mentioned, how do you know where the framing is so you are attaching the ledger to something solid? Thanks so much. Rebuilding my rotted deck and doing it myself. Appreciate the awesome DIY and carpentry communities.
@@theprofessordad9456 I used deck ledger spacers and ledger lock screws. I pre drilled the stucco and put a bit of polyurethane sealant in the holes for good measure. On the deck framing tops I used an adhesive backed tape to protect the top from rot. Worked well just wish I used heavy duty decking on top than just redwood 1x4 slats, it's been a year in front and 2 years in the back and they could use a re-staining. Good luck! I'm just a diy'er who watched a ton of deck videos and read up on local codes in Los Angeles for decks. Good news is city's have a lot of diy guides for decks.
@@eschrader Thanks so much for answering Eric! I'll look up those deck ledger spacer and lock screw options. When you predrilled the stucco, how did you know where to drill? In other words, does it matter? I was under the assumption that stucco itself is not structural and that you need to have the ledger attached to something structural like the underlying framing. If that's the case, I'm not sure where that is being concealed by the stucco. I'm actually down in Orange County! As for those diy guides from the city, is there a specific website you found those? Thanks again!
@@theprofessordad9456 I have a basement so I drilled a small test hole I patched later, looked for light on the other side and measured to get the stud layout. Only issue is some of that side of the house has termite rot so it wasn't as strong as I liked so I sistered a 2x4 to the bad stud then put the ledger lock screw into the good wood.
I'm just starting with my decking business and these are by far my favorite step by step videos
Awesome stoked to help! Go Get em 👊
Thanks for the video, I built my 17x11 deck 2 years ago and now I know how to get my corners flat. Never thought of planing them. Thanks again for the help.
Don't screw joist hangers. Nails have more sheer strength. You also can't attach a ledger to stucco. You must attach directly to the rim joist of the house. Don't notch guard rail posts, it weakens them.
No, the rim joist can be ripped out of the house when the deck collapses. Code requires solid connections to the interior joists (that have far more fasteners into floor sheathing). Or sometimes the sill plate or top plate are acceptable, since a collapsing deck will likely not leverage them out.
Rail posts need connection to something stronger than the perimeter joist, like surrounding the post with blocking and tying the post to interior joists. Again, perimeter joists have bent outwards - spilling people over the failed railing.
Another option is to ditch the hangers and toe-"nail" (/screw) five-inch TimberLok's
Stan, great video. My opinion on fastening the hand rail posts is to drill through and bolt them, with the decks I have built I have made the hand rail posts have extra support to fasten to. ( I'm not sure how to describe it. It's something my pawpaw taught me a long time ago.)
That sounds like a good way to do it Lance
That Makita drill is also my favorite drill. I love that this whole thing was built with makita's lol
Really liked the video. Would have liked to seen washers on the lag bolts, longer joist hangers, and more attention to the flashing and weatherproofing on ledger board at the early stage.
I've been looking for a 12in compound sliding saw. I'm going to rethink Makita because of the set back on the slide. Seems nicer when transporting too.
Great point, thanks for watching !!
Those joist hangers are for 2x4’s
don't forget to remind your guests that the safety rail is just for looks
I can imagine what the kids would do to it 🙈🙈🙈
Great video! I built one years ago and wish I had seen this years ago before I did. I'll be building another one on a different house this summer and will use a lot of Frankie's tips. Thank you for posting!
Ha I like how people say this guy is terrible but let me u know something coming from a young man this guy did a better job then the entire decking crew for a condominium complex out here in Long Island . Here the crew used the wrong screws messed up posts and only cover the mess with azac dry space
If Frankie wants to head to NY for 3 days... happy to send a plane ticket. You all make it look too easy. Great tips across the build...Thank you.
Idk about you but here in Illinois the inspector is very particular about galvanized nails in your joist hanger
Dont notch your handrail post, would fail inspection plus its just stupid especially with a higher deck . You basically turned your 4x into a 2x. Plus those are 2x6 hangers at the ledger, not for 2x8s, that would also fail. Also use hot dipped galvie nails for your hangers...not just whatever screws you have laying around.
Nice deck, well built!
Frankie would be a joy to work with, no talking, just work....."getter done!"
....13
LOL- That is him! I have worked with him for 8 years-its always been good.
Wow i have built decks before and have numerous brands of tools not brand loyal the tool for the job,
Bosch electric start plunge router, with a guide accessory
few DeWALT tools,
line of Milwaukee cordless,
Porter Cable belt sander has plenty of power and is beefy
I plan to investigate the Makita Sliding miter
I have Makita portable table saw cuts through pressure treated with ease have even used to build 10k 3pc entertainment center in the day and more
But i agree with Dirt Monkee he knows his stuff, every deck i have done has been custom to of seen this video would of made life easier!
Thanks Makita for sponsoring this video !
Bought a house year ago and the deck had been very neglected prior to my purchase. It's's going to need a new set of deck boards. Watching how you guys build this makes me realize how messed up the original construction of my deck is, it's going to be a long summer trying to fix everything.
You got this!
I could watch videos all day of Frankie just building stuff
Frankie is a great ol' school carpenter..nice work ol' boy!!
In New Zealand our building codes state that you must leave a gap between the house and the deck boundary joist so water can escape through it and the air can dry it out. The blocks that are attached to the house must have DPC between them and the house as well.
makes sense, how do you do that?
@@obedb093a special bolt between the ledger with washers in between the ledger and house.
Thats interesting. Not here, flashing and caulking gotta take care of that.
That-Makita- was a great video. Makita. Can't wait to-Makita- use this to help build -Makita- my own deck.
Interesting to see how you guys do it in the states. Your laws are a lot more relaxed than ours. In New Zealand we require a council permit and plans drawn from a draughtsman for any deck over 1.5m. Also in most cases we concrete our posts into the ground. Which I know most other countries find strange
Well to give you an idea.. I live in the city in my state, the city has different building codes, compared to the county.
But we also have to buy "fishing license" and "driver license" and "Conceal carry license" which
we have to pay fees to renew every few years.
BUT in some states you buy a conceal carry, or a fishing license and they last a life time.
*Shrugs* Laws in the US are all over the place because some are really important and some are just their
to milk productive people of their hard earned money.
Decks over 1m require permits in WA State. And yes concrete footers are part of the deal.
Wish you were available to do my deck. You’re awesome!!!
Palm Desert California is waiting for you. Vacation and work all in one!!!
The best I have seen so far and thank you Frankie
Frankie is the Man
It's a pretty damn good job overall - looks great. I'm just wondering why you don't use a post stirrup for the posts though, just to raise it up off the ground a bit? I know it's treated timber, but still, I imagine a galvanized post stirrup would be stronger and more durable than a bit of rebar and the post resting directly on the concrete, for, what, $10-20 total extra cost.
This video was brought to you by Makita..
how did you mount the ledger onto the stucco siding? I mean how did you find the studs under the stucco?
Went under the house
"Can you build a deck by yourself in just 3 days?"
"If I slow down"
Looool
I know- he's hilarious- he actually did it in 3 days with 1/2 day off because of rain.
I hope you paid him by the hour on that one. Since you were the one slowing him down with that damn camera.
I was slowing him down and yep-he gets paid by the hour👍
Probably by going through a lot of bad ones..#joke
so Stanley, is it safe to say that you run and own that business and just contract employees and pay them by the hour??
Frankie is a good sport!
Frankie is the man 👊
Thanks another really, really useful video. I've done lots of jobs that I would not attempted if I didn't watch your videos so thanks.
Nick.
Good stuff. I'm almost confident enough to try this...main thing is investing in more tools, including impact driver
One issue I have is when they screw diagonally. You need something to block the 2x6" from curving. One easy trick is to get a 24" piece of wood between where you want to screw, so it doesn't move.
Nice vid keep bringing these videos they make for a more informed homeowner
Thanks Walt, what else would you like to see?
This is so weird I just started installing decks and this video comes out...Thank you!
Remember, always check local codes before the hammer starts swinging.
@ 2:23 put a spacer between the house and the ledger board to allow water to drain from on top and behind ledger board. Also, to reduce deterioration of ledger, use pressure treated wood.
I have a question for you. I have a house I built 17 years ago and my deck wobbles a lot.
I believe the contractor did not weather proof the ledger board looks like it is rotting behind the board he placed on top of it. If I took the top of the deck board closest to the house off and took a picture of the ledger board could you possibly give me any advice as what to do?
No one is going to comment about the drill being baptized at the beginning of the video? Awesome!!! video good info and techniques. Also good quality video
that drill did some BACK TO THE FUTURE
Frankie went Hollywood!
When I saw makita I saw smart people doing a good job..💪😎👍
Dude using Makita doesn't make you a my smarter then someone using DeWalt , Milwaukee, Porter cable, Ryobi , or any other tool. Knowledge is not being smart. Being smart is how well someone can learn or solve problems. Makita is not any better then others tools. As a builder and framer I have owned all of them even tools from harbor freight. It's how you use them. Thank you!!
Yup,!. you're right.but I feel better if I use makita ...is like drinks there's the one special..😎👍🍺🍻
Using the Makita got him some free tools. In time they will switch.
Big NO-NO to notch Rail posts.
Great job, I’m
Building the same deck . Best job on RUclips . Cheers 🍻
Wow thanks man
I don't know where this deck it's located (state) but here in michigan. Now days have 7 code violations inspectors will make you take it a part and build it again. I'm not a hater I actually like the video.
I am seeing more and more Makita tools in the hands of pros more and more .. good price point and built tough.. Dewalt and a few others dropping quality increasing price.. Just paid a ton of money for a Milwaukie set of drills impact driver and the dam thing broke firs few days of use.. some plastic piece inside.. then I had a time getting my money back because I bought them on some kind of promotion .. I am so going to try Makita's tools.. !!
franky seems really great at this
Wow looks great. I’d say he’s built a few decks in his day. Awesome set of tools.
Hey man, tico nails in your joist hangers and you can do an over lap joint at the corners of your railing . Ur mitres will shrink and leave a gap over time
Nasty construction.
Thought this was a how-to video.. Turns out to be a look at my friend Frankie video.
nice video.. but few areas I would change is , use a CB44 for post base, I think hangers being used are to short, I would use the hangers for length of the joists, and I personally would run all the way thru a full 1/2" bolt with nut and washer for handrail post at corners ... other than that , cool video
When you're so good at what you do your boss doesn't care how loaded you are on the jobsite.
Lots of comments on joist hangers whether to screw or nail. Simpson provides lots of technical data on proper installation of their products including type,size , length of nail and yes screws that are made specifically for metal connectors , stamped on the head of each fasteners is a code that allows inspector to verify that correct fasteners were used.
Nice deck... old school railings and deck board layouts though
Have you seen the handrail post method Samurai Carpenter uses? Super clean, looks great, no notching. Extra work, Maybe just a couple minutes for Frankie, but the end result looks great.
I need Franky to come over & build me a deck!!
2 x 4 hanger for 2x 10 joists?
Great video. Makita works great too (drill combo, circular saw)
Never pass inspection in my state. Stucco must be removed for attaching the ledger, correct hardware must be used for PT wood, can’t use screws for the rail posts, must tie external joists into external joists at two points, etc. Lawyers love these DIY decks..
Bro had me dying “only if I slow down” you know damn well this dude is laughing at a 3 day video 🤣
When a big guy leans against those rail post... Splat!
So true!
Notched posts.....wtf.
Amazing professional job
Thank you very much!
Hope you give this guy bonuses.
The balusters should be attached inside the rails so they can't be kicked out and someone can fall through the balusters.
Home inspector here. Joist hangers are under sized
Kyle Turner any thoughts on the plethora of other violations i just witnessed?
Hell, that's the least of his worries... incorrect lag bolts, lack of flashing at ledger board, incorrect joist hangers, incorrect Fasteners on joist hangers, incorrect post to footing connection , I highly doubt there are any tie backs on any of the handrail posts, not through bolted at beam to post connection, never mind not using oversized washers on carriage bolt heads, there's just a whole lot of WTF. But the rest of dirt monkey videos I do enjoy, lol.
thats all? lol
@@nbco55
Hell, carriage bolts are not correct fasteners anyway.
I'm not a fan of letting the posts sit directly on the concrete footings. I typically use a base plate that I anchor into the concrete, and then wrap the base of post and up the 2 sides the plate touches the post with ice shield type membrane, this keeps the wood up 1/2" or so and it's not wicking water/moisture from the concrete and rotting prematurely
Great point!
Detailed Lawn Services I was just going to comment on that....well said.....
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This deck would never pass inspection in Wisconsin
What would be called out?
Joist hangers need to cover 60% or more of the width of the framing material.
Also should never notch rail posts that's a code here in ny they have to be full 4x4
Here IN Pittsburgh they not only have to be full 4x4s they have to be boxed in all all 4 sides and secured with bolts not screws... Those rails will fail in a few years
Ask Frankie on his thoughts about notching out the 4x4 to set the 2x4? More less for a continuous run on the 2x4.
Awesome video about how to use Makita tools.
if I slow down...love it....go Frankie
Code say's you cannot attach a ledger directly over stucco. Notching post is wrong too.
No notched handrail posts especially on a second story deck! Not safe!
You could notch a 4x6 down to a 4x4 post, but 4x4 cannot be notched. Of course 2x4 are also forbidden. The Code committee saw way too many fatalities as a result of split and cracked posts.
You also cannot rely only on the outer joist or beam to support the posts. Too many joists just twisted out and spilled people into space.
Notched handrail posts are outright prohibited in my county
I am pretty sure you can still buy handbook with all details you need on woodprix.
Thanks for that
Well done boys
Thanks. Lots of great tips I will use to build mine.
Simple and great project, thanks guys! 😊
"Are you going to finish building a deck or make snow cones, c'mon man"!
Thanks for saying something, it’s nothing but terrible jokes and grab assing in this guys videos. Not to mention all the ass kissing in the comments section
I do not notch the raillig post, and the deck frame should rest on the support beam.
Deck would not pass in my state: guard rails cannot be nailed on the outside facing out. When the wood is worn out, a child or adult could push on the railing, nails could come out and side of the deck could fall forward. Not the safest design. Good video and personality though.
Thanks Jo!
What nails?
tempestman: He used nails first but then went back with screws. I guess the OP missed them.
Notching rail posts..... Big no no guys.
no way this will pass inspection in my state, totally unsafe deck, 4x4 for rail, notched, no, no, wrong hangers, wrong lags, should be galvanized, also when deck attached to a concrete wall, a back beams is necessarily, unless you use a hex-thru Bolts. here in my state we build decks 20x12 or 14 no steps in 3 days.
Would have loved to see a bit more detail when you did the hand rails. I noticed a few vertical posts that were longer and more prominent. Why?
I love watching Frankie work and learning from your Channel. Though I really would have liked to sane vinyl flashing over the top of that ledger board tucked underneath aluminum if possible
I would love to apprentice under him. I wish I had someone here that was as good as him when I was doing construction.
that guy is awesome!
LOVIT ! Seen a few tricks I’ll use on next weeks Deck !
Thx’s
Wow that looks great. I wish he lived in my city
Why aren't the deck boards and the top rails full length? There should NEVER be butt joints in the decking or rails if at all possible. Deck is under 20', full length material is available
The screws In the just hangers is a big no no. They are not structurally rated. Every building code will agree with this. Simpson makes a structural screw for hangers if you don't want to use tico nails
jason, everything that you pick up on is dead right - see my post for other no no's about this promoted nonsense mike gert
your right about this, I tried using screws on a build. The inspector made me pull the screws out and use nails.
Hmmmm....I'd like them to comment on this
Crazt wild stuff here
i do trim and finish carpentry a client wants high end custom roof to oreante yet structurally strong yeah life can be fun at times
Hope you liked the video and thanks for watching !
Thank you Frankie
Joist hangers should use only use screws recommended by the manufacturer or better yet nails. Most of the time they recommend galvanized structural screws not regular construction screws and or galvanized nails 10d being the most common depending on the load
Not trying to be Bob the builder here, but there is many issues with this build. HOME OWNERS! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! DO NOT FOLLOW THEIR ADVISE! as stated in the video, consult with your local building codes.
I will say a few things. No where that I am aware of, is notching a 4x4 rail post permitted. There has been a ton of research on this. Notching the rail post substantially reduces the strength of the post. Post should be blocked and placed to the interior of the deck. Simply Google how to install a deck rail post on a deck. There is also several hardware applications that can be implemented.
Also he was using interior screws on the deck. Acq and cca lumber requires specific fasteners. Please don't undermine this. The joist hangers looked short to me also.
- Flashing a ledger is the only way. Caulking is never acceptable.
- Anytime you have 2 boards meeting together it is advisable to install some type of waterproofing on the top to prevent water from getting in-between. Especially in snow country.
- Last but not least, post bases are very important. I am unaware of drilling a hole in a 6x6, and inserting a piece of rebar as a code approved application. Please! Don't listen to everything you see on the internet. You'll thank me in the long run.
Looks incredibly sturdy. Could rest a forklift on that dang thing. Good Job.
:if looks could kill!"
You make the most common and most dangerous mistake of all, your ledger board is depending on the shear strength of your fasteners. Lawsuit waiting to happen when it collapses under a load. You have to run a vertical support that transfers the load from the ledger board to the ground, Einstein. Bolting it to the house is not for load but rather to keep it from swaying.
You're using the right tools, I'll give you that. I love Makita, best on the market no doubt.
this is not true if you remove the stucco. whenever there is a facade finish you are right though and that includes non structural brick. see this video for the national codes of the US. This video will also bring to light many other mistakes though. ruclips.net/video/iBo5N4aJTOo/видео.html
It's OK to support the ledger board using the house, but the house's perimeter joist is not enough support. It can literally be ripped out of the house when decks collapse. The ledger board must be tied into the interior joists, and approved brackets and fasteners must be used. That way the ledger board stays on the house if the deck collapses.
I would recommend using a base plate with a concrete anchor for your 6x6s Also, since you didn't put flashing on top of your ledger, did you at least put grace underlayment behind the ledger?
Any tips on how to locate studs behind stucco ?
I’m planning on putting ledger board over stucco for patio cover project.
Thanks
You missed the most important bit, drilling into concrete / brick for the ledger board. Without that first step, the rest of the structure will not stand up. Nice video otherwise, though I share other posters reservations about having the posts sit directly on concrete without a stirrup and about putting handrails on the outside of posts.