Gamers (gold) Leslie Fish
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- This is a song by Leslie Fish (I'm pretty sure) and it is about the perils of being a gamer.
Just listen to the song, I know the video that go's along with it is awful. It was my first one and I am never using that program again.... - Развлечения
I love how "they targeted gamers. gamers." is a meme, but it's something that actually happened lmfao.
this is the original "society has it out for gamers" but funny and actually more justified
Questing in shadowlands and playing cyberpunk? Leslie fish predicted the future!
No. It's just that the big studios don't dare to make new things, so just make new versions of old ideas.
Figured I'd be the one to post a complete list of the asides and lyrics this time:
Opening: "I decided to write this little song, warning folks about the dangers of being a gamer. All this is unfortunately true. And catch me at a party and I'll tell you all the details. Suffice to say that, when I go back, I'm gonna play for a political rally.
Trying to get a bunch of gamers out of jail. Go figure."
(song begins)
Verse 1: o/ Oh, I'm a computer gamer.
There's nothin' I won't play!
Pac-Man, Mario, Star Trek Battles,
I play 'em every day!
I played with speed and style,
I racked up a super score,
Until the Secret Sevice came
And knocked down my front door.
They stole my whole computer,
And all my disks and games!
They called me a hacker/cracker
And lots of weirder names!
They busted me for 'intention'
To hack all kinds of junk,
But all the evidence they could find
Was a game called _Cyberpunk_ .
Chorus: You gotta wonder 'bout these people,
And what they think and feel.
They can't tell a game from real life,
They think this game is real.
("God help us, they run the government.")
Verse 2: I'm a fantasy and role-playing gamer,
I play 'em whenever I can.
I like _Dungeons and Dragons_ ,
_Runequest_ and _Shadowland_ .
I played as kings and Vikings,
Wizards, elves and more,
Until a bunch of fundies came
And kicked down my front door!
They stole my dice and game book,
They called it a 'book of spells'.
They said I was conjuring demons,
And things too weird to tell!
They burned my books and papers!
They almost burned me, too!
They really believed in magic,
They thought that stuff was true!
Chorus: You gotta wonder 'bout these people,
And what they think and feel.
They can't tell a game from real life,
They think this game is real.
("Yeah, true story. Why do you think "Dungeons & Dragons" got turned to "Advanced D&D"? With the names changed and the serial numbers filed off? And nothing called a 'god' or a 'demon' anymore?")
Verse 3: I'm a live role-playin' gamer,
I used to play out in the wood.
_Twilight 2000_ , _Shadowrun_ ,
I'd play whenever I could.
I'd put on my costume, shoot tin cans,
And make firecrackers fly.
Then my front door got kicked down again...
This time it was the F.B.I.
They stole my guns, my videotapes,
Every book I ever read,
And a couple of bags of fertilizer
Out of the garden shed!
They told the press I was a 'terrorist'
Who planned to blow up half the town!
They called me a great big militia nut,
And a neo-Nazi clown!
("Huh?")
Chorus: You gotta wonder 'bout these people,
And what they think and feel.
They can't tell a game from real life,
They think this game is real.
You gotta wonder 'bout these people,
And just how they get by.
If they can't tell the truth from fantasy...
Do they even know it when they lie? \o
Because this song has aged a bit since its initial release, a short glossary:
"Star Trek Battles": Leslie Fish changed a little something, here. The original was "Star Fleet Battles", and was a tabletop game. The one mentioned in the first verse therefore corresponds to the computer game, _Star Trek: Starfleet Command_ , which came out in 1999. The tabletop game is still around, though.
"...a game called _Cyberpunk_ ": As I mentioned elsewhere, this actually belongs to the tabletop section in verse 2. Steve Jackson Games was creating their sourcebook, _GURPS: Cyberpunk_ , and triggered enough red flags while researching hacking that their computers were seized. The final 1990 sourcebook had to be recreated from scratch, because they've never gotten the files back.
"Runequest and Shadowland": _Runequest_ is a close cousin to D&D, though generally overshadowed by the more famous game. "Shadowland" is a bit of a mystery to me, though it may correspond to _Wraith: The Oblivion_ .
".. they said I was conjuring demons...": This was a reference to the infamous "Satanic Panic" of the 1980s. Yes, it really did get this weird and stupid. There were stories going around that when you burned the rulebooks, they'd scream as the demon was evicted.
"Twilight 2000, Shadowun": I'm not familiar with any LARP of these, but it's not out of the question. "Twilight 2000" is a just-barely-post-apocalyptic game, with "Shadowrun" being the famous mix of fantasy and cyberpunk. Both are certainly workable.
"... bags of fertilizer out of the garden shed.": This one is easiest to date, corresponding to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City back in 1995. Since the bomb was made from fuel oil and fertilizer, there were a LOT of weird raids by the F.B.I. ...
My apologies to LadyRavenEyes; I missed the notification.
Verse 1 refers to the Secret Service raid on Texas' own Steve Jackson Games. It seems that in researching GURPS Cyberpunk, they tripped some filters, resulting in the confiscation of all related files. They had to recreate the entire book, because they never got the confiscated files back.
Verse 2 is about the scandal focused on D&D back in the day, thanks to the comic "Dark Dungeons" from Jack Chick. Bookburnings were epidemic, and "devils" and "demons" were given new species names in an attempt to dodge the issue.
Verse 3 is about the confusion between LARP players and survivalists. More than a few groups got raided back in 2010, alas, and many FBI agents felt very silly confiscating boffer weapons.
Wolfrover I can actually relate to this just a bit. When I was in the Navy, on my off duty hours I would sometimes play AD&D. I even had a Dungeon Master's Guide. One of my shipmates (a Christian) saw it and said, "You need to get rid of that spell book." Spell book? Please. The DM's Guide is simply a reference guide for a system of rules and guidelines for playing a *GAME*. They really do think that stuff is true. For which I think they need serious psychological counseling.
carloak9 Some do, yes. :) Heck, I met one at the old Dallas Fantasy Fair convention back in the Eighties. What she was doing at a convention with "satanic" games involved I have no idea. (Yes, she called them Satanic. I said nothing and moved on.)
Here's a great article about some of these events: www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/jon-peterson/your-cyberpunk-games-are-dangerous
+okami36 I read that article. Which reinforces my point. The authorities are the ones who are really delusional. The gamers know it's not real. The authorities think it is. And these are with the government. Saints and Angels preserve us. Cause the government is too delusional to.
I wish I can have a Boffer
(laughs) I love it! Heck, I'm old enough to remember not only the games she's talking about, but two of the incidents she's talking about, as well.
Yep. Definitely Fish...an oldie, but goodie. I remember the incidents, and all the fuss back when D&D was relatively new. And when Cyberpunk was new...Now, we got Steampunk, and tabletop is old hat.
Oh, I'm a computer gamer,
there's nothing I won't play,
Pac-Man, Mario, Star Trek Battles
I played them every day.
I played with speed and style,
I racked up a super score,
until the Secret Service came
and knocked down my front door.
The stole my whole computer
and all my disks and games,
they called me a hacker cracker
and lots of weirder names
they busted me for intention
to hack all kinds of junk
but all the evidence they could find
was a game called 'Cyberpunk'.
(chorus)
Ya'gotta wonder about these people
and what they think and feel,
They can't tell a game from real life
they think this game is real.
(aside:
God help us, there go the government...)
Oh, I'm a fantasy roleplaying gamer,
I play them whenever I can,
I like Dungeons and Dragons,
Runequest and Shadowland.
I played as kings and Vikings
wizards, elves and more
until a bunch of fundies came
and kicked in my front door.
They stole my dice and game books
they called it a book of spells,
they said I was conjuring demons
and things too strange to tell.
They burned my books and papers
they almost burned me too,
they really believed in magic,
they thought that stuff was true!
(chorus)
(aside:
True story...
Why do you think Dungeons and Dragons
got turned to "Advanced D&D",
with the names changed
and the serial numbers filed off
and nothing cool left
to redeem it anymore.)
Oh, I'm a live roleplaying gamer
I used to play out in the wood
Twilight 2000 and Shadowrun
I played whenever I could.
I'd put on my costume
and shoot tin cans
and make firecrackers fly
then my door got kicked down again
this time it was the FBI.
They stole my guns and video tapes,
and every book I'd ever read,
and a couple bags of fertilizer
out of the garbage shed.
They told the press I was a terrorist
and planned to blow up half the town,
they called me a crazy militia nut
and a neo-nazi clown. (aside: huh?)
(chorus)
Ya'gotta wonder about these people
and just how they get by,
if they can't tell the truth from fantasy
do they even know it when they lie?
Found a few minor errors here and there, thought I'd help out.
^_^
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"then my door got kicked down again
this time it was the FBI"
Should be:
"then my FRONT door got kicked down again
this time it was the FBI"
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"and a couple bags of fertilizer
out of the garbage shed."
Should be:
"and a couple bags of fertilizer
out of the GARDEN shed."
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"they called me a crazy militia nut
and a neo-nazi clown. (aside: huh?)"
Should be:
"they called me a RIGHT-WING militia nut
and a neo-nazi clown. (aside: huh?)"
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Not that important but after the 2nd verse, I think she actually said, "and nothing called a god or a demon anymore"
Coincidentally, I just found the original multi-track recording. This is from OVFF 1996.
We will make a (dramatically better sounding) album this year or next with this recording.
And they call gamers weird. At least gamers know that stuff is fiction and don't labor under the delusion that the stuff they play is real life.
Are you sure about that? I know a few who would like to climb into their computer and stay... but yeah, I guess they do know the difference.
if they didnt you would be able to tell, like when a critical success, puts you in critical condition :P charisma nat 20, you now believe you are batman...and yet you are not batman :P
I remember this song! Thanks for posting it! :)
"Do they even know it when they lie?"
Well they swear to protect people's rights, then act like they do, so no.
This is loosely based on a real event...let that sync in
Yesterday it was witch-hunting gamers.
These days it's witch-hunting whites, straights, and civil rights.
Several real events even. At least Steve Jackson was able to use the confiscating of Cyberpunk to market GURPS Cyberpunk, Illuminati, and Warehouse 23 with some extra punch. They even printed it proudly on the cover of Cyberpunk.
It's about Steve Jackson Games and the fed crazies.
Oh dear. I played many of the games Leslie mentioned. I got better.
+1
i get one of the incidents but what r the others
The first verse is anyway.
Gamers truly are the most opressed minority.