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How Joel Embiid Developed Into an MVP Candidate | The Ringer

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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2021
  • The Ringer’s J. Kyle Mann breaks down Joel Embiid’s basketball journey, from his time playing in a Basketball Without Borders camp to becoming one of the best centers in the NBA. He takes a look at how Embiid's game has evolved throughout his career with the Philadelphia 76ers, whether or not he and Ben Simmons can win a title together, and how he compares to other great international big men like Hakeem Olajuwon and Tim Duncan.
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  • @milesforrest4532
    @milesforrest4532 3 года назад +586

    J. Kyleeee, always the best videos on the Ringer

    • @ebrown112
      @ebrown112 3 года назад +3

      ditto. no doubt.

    • @josephkin2450
      @josephkin2450 3 года назад +9

      Arguably on RUclips for me. There isn’t another series on RUclips I will try to drop anything and try to watch

    • @Jahordan380
      @Jahordan380 3 года назад

      Straight facts

    • @Owen-ld9xk
      @Owen-ld9xk 3 года назад +1

      By a mile

    • @culbinator
      @culbinator 3 года назад

      Totally agree

  • @jihming7270
    @jihming7270 3 года назад +77

    That Thinking basketball shoutout! Real recognize real.

  • @seanmclbball
    @seanmclbball 3 года назад +239

    You’re right about embiid being lazy in his passes out of the post but a lot of these clips are from last year. He’s really improved in that aspect this year largely by of the spacing. As the chemistry gets better with this squad it’ll only get better.

    • @thatguy6292
      @thatguy6292 3 года назад +14

      Fr, I thought they did a disservice to his play in the double team, he’s been really good this year.

    • @jimmypeterman44
      @jimmypeterman44 3 года назад +3

      came here literally to comment the same thing

    • @kylelyon8518
      @kylelyon8518 3 года назад +3

      Too true man disrespected embiid’s progress

    • @aaronmiller903
      @aaronmiller903 3 года назад +5

      @@thatguy6292 cause this year if u double him you have a open seth curry

    • @thatguy6292
      @thatguy6292 3 года назад

      @@aaronmiller903 facts

  • @junebabyLV
    @junebabyLV 3 года назад +78

    yes, J. Kyle Mann, i do agree. i always agree. every single time.

    • @CodeineAbdulJabbar
      @CodeineAbdulJabbar 3 года назад +5

      He can make any player sound like an all time great. His voice is also butter

  • @briansshare
    @briansshare 3 года назад +338

    It’s always a little disingenuous when people say Simmons and Embiid can’t work together on the floor. The +/- is really good, they both play insane defense, the shooting is there around them - there’s concerns but I hate the idea that it’s impossible to do

    • @georgepolychronopoulos647
      @georgepolychronopoulos647 3 года назад +5

      Jim Geckon I mean everyone thought they’d get it done in 2017-18 when they finished the season on a 16 game win streak but they just got deomolished by the Celtics because they weren’t good enough. 2018-19 they had one of the most stacked teams of all time and lost in the 2nd round to a raptors team that had everyone underperforming except for kawhi in that series. I don’t have trust in embed as a leader or playoff performer

    • @timmcbride8432
      @timmcbride8432 3 года назад +45

      @@georgepolychronopoulos647 lol you asking examples of when they were 20 and 22 years old FOH guy

    • @TheMagnanimousMany
      @TheMagnanimousMany 3 года назад +15

      It seems like a lot of people, especially writers on The Ringer, really don't want to see them stay together. Every bit of Sixers material always references that they're not a pixel perfect fit together. Asinine

    • @shabazz360
      @shabazz360 3 года назад +7

      @@georgepolychronopoulos647 they were 21 and 23. If you actually thought they would “get it done” I don’t know what to tell you.

    • @feedingstation6277
      @feedingstation6277 3 года назад +11

      @@timmcbride8432 What's even more bizarre about that hot take is that 17-18 was Ben's rookie season. Did Lebron or Shaq "get it done" in their rookie seasons? Also, consensus was that that Sixers team was going to be a bubble 8th seed. Pretty much no one thought they'd win a series, let alone expected them to beat a perennial playoff team like Boston.

  • @93HonestAbe
    @93HonestAbe 3 года назад +118

    "....and Trey Young being on the floor..." 😂😂😂 shots fired 5:52

    • @jackabah4279
      @jackabah4279 3 года назад

      I paused and belted out a mean laugh when I heard that...his tone was so🤨😒

  • @chrisblashill7265
    @chrisblashill7265 3 года назад +44

    Between Kyle's insightful commentary and the brilliant edits these guys put together, the Ringer has genuinely some of the best sports content out there, period.

    • @willhooke
      @willhooke 3 года назад +5

      These guys and Thinking Basketball are great 💯

  • @walterreed5849
    @walterreed5849 3 года назад +11

    when you played that hakeem clip of him talking about playing other sports him and embiid have identical accents and voices

  • @balckmac
    @balckmac 3 года назад +9

    J. Kyle Mann is the only reason why I subbed to this channel. I wish he made more content or he was apart of more draft and basically discussions that are always posted on this channel.

    • @jeremiahjohnson450
      @jeremiahjohnson450 3 года назад

      He's on the ringer nba podcast about once a week. Just throwing that out there

    • @balckmac
      @balckmac 3 года назад

      @@jeremiahjohnson450 Which one of the ringers podcast? they have alot.

    • @jeremiahjohnson450
      @jeremiahjohnson450 3 года назад

      @@balckmac i know he comes on the ringer NBA University pod with KOC and Tjarks. I wanna say he's been on the mismatch pod with koc and Chris Vernon as a guest but I know for sure, 100%, he's a host on the ringer nba uni pod that usually airs every Wednesday. I like a lot of the ringer pods. The Raja Bell and Logan Murdoch NBA pod is usually pretty good too as well as the mismatch.

  • @davidadeyemi9466
    @davidadeyemi9466 3 года назад +151

    Remember when people were saying Simmons over Embiid in potential trades? 😂😂😅

    • @Mody-qj9ci
      @Mody-qj9ci 3 года назад +3

      " Embiid is injury prone !! "

    • @shabazz360
      @shabazz360 3 года назад +1

      I just didn’t get it 🤷🏽‍♂️.

    • @wavybone1945
      @wavybone1945 3 года назад +1

      Glad they don’t have to trade either of them

    • @mentok3027
      @mentok3027 3 года назад +12

      People fall wayyyyy too in love with players like Simmons because of the transition highlights. Embiid is several tiers higher than Simmons as a player.

    • @MasterAppels
      @MasterAppels 3 года назад +4

      You can't dismiss his injury record

  • @ubadman1
    @ubadman1 3 года назад +16

    Seriously how can one man's voice be this smooth????

  • @ajr8430
    @ajr8430 3 года назад +6

    Best content creator on the Ringer at it again!

  • @yao8
    @yao8 3 года назад +89

    Imagine Beal + Embiid thooooooooooooo

  • @themiseducationofjaymercad479
    @themiseducationofjaymercad479 3 года назад +6

    Ahhhh J. Kylee Mann videos are too good 🔥

  • @christianhall127
    @christianhall127 3 года назад +7

    More J. Kyle videos pleaseeee

  • @joshuareynolds1545
    @joshuareynolds1545 3 года назад +2

    Love J Kyle Mann

  • @trijws3
    @trijws3 3 года назад +39

    6:05 isnt even Korkmaz. its dakota matthias. lol

  • @raymondfeng1938
    @raymondfeng1938 3 года назад +9

    it's time we talked embiid. omar: oh indeed
    bars

  • @GregBennett
    @GregBennett 3 года назад +13

    I love these! I already know I love it before even watching it.

  • @JFP95
    @JFP95 3 года назад +8

    Embiid and Simmons have the 3rd highest net rating out of all duos in the nba. Only Lebron & AD and Kawhi & PG are higher.
    Can we stop with the whole “they don’t fit together” narrative already?

    • @Chillehhhh
      @Chillehhhh 3 года назад

      they fit together best UNDER doc

    • @JFP95
      @JFP95 3 года назад

      @@Chillehhhh and your point????? He’s the coach???

    • @JFP95
      @JFP95 3 года назад

      @@Chillehhhh it’s not because of doc it’s because of the shooting around them. That’s why they had the hype early on. They had shooting. Then we got rid of all our shooting and ppl think they can’t play together anymore

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 3 года назад

      Lebron and AD won a chip together. Kawhi and PG were lookin like a buzz saw until the playoffs caught up to them. Neither their playoff opponents had legit answers to handle how teams used those guys respectively to get results (Lebron/AD PnR and AD essentially defending opposing teams explosive scorers on the perimeter. Kawhi/PG being the best two-way wings).
      So tell me how 'good' of a fit Embiid and Simmons are exactly. Like those two examples I mentioned or anything less? Because if its anything less then you REALLY don't know what the word 'fit' means in the context, you fucking bozo.
      btw JOkic/Murray when they click are an even better fit than Embiid/Simmons. May be lacking on defense but the offensive looks they get and can generate rivals that of even the two I made an example of who has gotten big time results at the high level.

    • @eljefe9140
      @eljefe9140 3 года назад

      In the playoffs its not very good

  • @Ethan-qk8fv
    @Ethan-qk8fv 3 года назад

    J Kyles content is the reason I’m subbed to this channel, which is why I’m always late because I always miss it lol

  • @jacksonjones2220
    @jacksonjones2220 3 года назад

    The beats, the logic, the cadence, the allusions... nothing more satisfying or well produced on RUclips. Ringer, Bill: A. Well done (signing my man) and B. WE WANT MORE!

  • @hamishmccluggage3139
    @hamishmccluggage3139 3 года назад +1

    EMBIIIIID. Seriously how can you be that big and athletic and have such a soft delicate touch? Incred.

  • @marnixramondt5645
    @marnixramondt5645 3 года назад

    I both watch J. Kyle and Thinking basketbal. For some reason i kept smiling like a kid when the metrics came in. Thankyou for making basketball more than a sport, you guys almost make it a science, an art.

  • @EmacMac-ph2zd
    @EmacMac-ph2zd 3 года назад +1

    It’s almost like a rap record. The way Kyle pulls and samples from different forms of entertainment for his videos. Gotta tip your hat

  • @jon5one7
    @jon5one7 3 года назад

    Quality hoop breakdown. Good video for sure.

  • @philly_sports1558
    @philly_sports1558 3 года назад +6

    It will be crazy if Embiid does what Iverson did 20 years later. Win MVP in his fifth season and bring the Sixers to the Finals.

    • @nalimlattarai2873
      @nalimlattarai2873 3 года назад

      Nets bucks

    • @kaysheye7784
      @kaysheye7784 3 года назад

      @@nalimlattarai2873 pfttt Bucks will prosper once Budweiser leaves

  • @TIMMYGRANDE
    @TIMMYGRANDE 3 года назад

    this was great, love this kinda stuff

  • @bencuzzy84
    @bencuzzy84 3 года назад

    Nice vid. Was enjoyable to watch.

  • @pinchesalvaje
    @pinchesalvaje 3 года назад

    These videos are masterful productions and consistently incisive. I tip my hat.

  • @sebastianprice8760
    @sebastianprice8760 3 года назад

    He's been unstoppable this year. There is nothing you can do with him 1-on-1 ANYWHERE on the court. It's beautiful to watch

  • @kenasai6914
    @kenasai6914 3 года назад

    Goated channel. J Kyle is the man

  • @dangelodrummond8315
    @dangelodrummond8315 3 года назад +1

    Masterpiece of a video 📽

  • @migueldejesus9234
    @migueldejesus9234 3 года назад

    This is my morning ASMR before work. Thank you kindly, JKM.

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc 2 года назад

    2:17 That's some incredible touch, and with a ball that appears to be heavy

  • @gasteeelsmf3235
    @gasteeelsmf3235 3 года назад

    Great and entertaining video🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏼

  • @vincentbyrd5350
    @vincentbyrd5350 3 года назад +2

    Finally emvpiid!! Has arrived welcome stay for a longtime

  • @DaltonMcwha
    @DaltonMcwha 3 года назад +1

    J.Kyle deserves a raise.

  • @desertedham37
    @desertedham37 3 года назад

    the best ringer series

  • @wavybone1945
    @wavybone1945 3 года назад +18

    Didn’t spend enough time talking about how great Joel is at getting fouled

  • @ryanmontague3377
    @ryanmontague3377 3 года назад +54

    When Embiid wins the MVP this year, come back and watch this video again. You'll thank me later

    • @trvspvrk
      @trvspvrk 3 года назад +8

      Lebron will win a pity MVP this year

    • @samlawson6748
      @samlawson6748 3 года назад +2

      @@trvspvrk sucks to know that even if Embiid averages 30 and 12 it may not be enough to get him MVP, Bron is winning it without a doubt

    • @beedebawng2556
      @beedebawng2556 3 года назад +4

      @@samlawson6748 Why do you think "Bron is winning it without a doubt"?

    • @Vanilla_Jo
      @Vanilla_Jo 3 года назад +13

      If the Nuggets can pull it together there is a thicc Serbian man who may have something to say about that.

    • @GameChanger-xi4iy
      @GameChanger-xi4iy 3 года назад +11

      @@trvspvrk How can you win the mvp when you don't have the best record in your conference, have a top 5 player as your sidekick, 2 DPOY level defenders and not to mention 2 6-man of the year candidates on your team. Face it Lebron has a stacked team and his stats are decent but his defense is nowhere close to being as valuable as Jokic and definitely not Embiid.

  • @sheli5483
    @sheli5483 3 года назад

    Keep polishing it bigman.

  • @raphielusain9755
    @raphielusain9755 3 года назад +1

    Do a video on terry rozier, I think he’s really slept on

  • @cascade9584
    @cascade9584 3 года назад

    hey great video Mann

  • @Fromthelogo702
    @Fromthelogo702 3 года назад

    Never disappoints

  • @whalership5041
    @whalership5041 3 года назад +5

    It is sad to me how the media, especially The Ringer cannot talk about the Sixers without suggesting they should trade a player. They cannot talk about how the Sixers are undefeated with their starting lineup, instead they suggest to pull apart the starting lineup.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 3 года назад

      That is always going to be part of the the narrative with the Philly duo and how they came up along with the process. But hey you will have more time to talk about the starting lineup when they get crapped on against a competent team come playoff time. And we'll have people like you to cite all these regular season accolades that uh, don't amount for shit in a 7 game series.

  • @florenzjulian
    @florenzjulian 3 года назад

    We need more J. Kyle Mann

  • @LeviDavidSchaffer
    @LeviDavidSchaffer 3 года назад +1

    Curry and Green are so huge for that team.

  • @beedebawng2556
    @beedebawng2556 3 года назад

    Love the music choice. 🎶

  • @rawsomeawesome8281
    @rawsomeawesome8281 3 года назад

    If the Sixers managed to get an elite perimeter shot creator with Simmons and Embiid as frontcourt mates, the Sixers would be unstoppable

  • @2FlyCaptain
    @2FlyCaptain 2 года назад

    Funny thing his passing has greatly improved this year, Especially out of the double.

  • @thedimedrop8153
    @thedimedrop8153 3 года назад +1

    just checking in

  • @miles24yo
    @miles24yo 3 года назад +6

    “ Like pedestrians looking for a court settlement” I felt that

  • @marmaalo
    @marmaalo 3 года назад

    how could I not like a video with an exquisite Will It Blend? reference

  • @jakebrashear2964
    @jakebrashear2964 3 года назад

    The Horford edit killed me 😂😂

  • @BradDanyluk
    @BradDanyluk 3 года назад

    It's funny that you shouted out Ben Taylor, because I've always found that you sound a ton like him

  • @Ginga
    @Ginga 3 года назад +12

    Embiid simply trusted the process...
    Imma head out.

  • @GaberInc
    @GaberInc 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic analysis as always! Still gotta think that the Process climaxed with Simmons, Redick, Harris, Butler and Embiid. As strong of a start as this season has been, it’s been a gradual decline since then.

  • @briand8949
    @briand8949 3 года назад

    I seriously can’t wait for the Jazz and 76ers to play!!

  • @alejandrovillegas5086
    @alejandrovillegas5086 3 года назад

    These sorts of videos are better than the podcast setup, should do 1 for lamelo

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC 3 года назад +2

    Embiid just has to prove he can stay healthy and keep fit. Otherwise he's been pretty dominate. Though it is hard to say how often he disappears is mental vs physical.

  • @JingleBerryz
    @JingleBerryz 3 года назад

    Nice cut of the jimmy butler clip to completely change the narrative in that episode lol

  • @flyersboy01
    @flyersboy01 3 года назад +2

    Someone please list the per 36 min or per 100 possessions stats of Embiid Jokic and Lebron this season in the comments below. People always wanna point out per game like we’re still living in 2010. Adjusting stats to per 100 possessions or 36 min levels the playing field more because someone averaging 30 PPG on 30 min a night is more impressive than 31 PPG on 38 min a night. It gives a clearer picture

    • @pedrodomingos7064
      @pedrodomingos7064 3 года назад +2

      Per 36 Lebron: 26.7 ppg - 8.3 ast - 8.3 reb - FG% 497/398/715
      Per 36 Embiid: 32.7 ppg - 3.2 ast - 12.4 reb - FG% 547/377/855
      Per 36 Jokic: 27.4 ppg - 8.4 ast - 11.4 reb - FG% 565/400/847

  • @n0eonn5r
    @n0eonn5r 3 года назад

    j Kyle mann, MY MAN!

  • @Garfonzo
    @Garfonzo 3 года назад

    thats my guy J. Kyle Mann

  • @i.theworstguys298
    @i.theworstguys298 3 года назад

    You either love him or hate him. And I happen to love this guy.

  • @samuelirwin7802
    @samuelirwin7802 3 года назад

    I do agree.

  • @simonphillips1087
    @simonphillips1087 3 года назад

    Crazy to come back to after the Sixers collapse

  • @topfive_sports
    @topfive_sports 3 года назад +1

    That clip at 6:48 has me weak 😂😂

  • @pkamvp
    @pkamvp 3 года назад

    Saved this for later

  • @amirawel4141
    @amirawel4141 3 года назад

    God tier content

  • @KobeMountainDew
    @KobeMountainDew 3 года назад

    The Process, great nickname

  • @robysuryatama6662
    @robysuryatama6662 3 года назад

    We are getting closer for J.Kylman + Ben collaboration

  • @lumptydumpty6992
    @lumptydumpty6992 3 года назад

    AYYY SHOUT OUT TO THINKING BASKETBALL!

  • @JaeDooks
    @JaeDooks 3 года назад

    Picking up Mic Drop was a great move

  • @KaawSauce
    @KaawSauce 3 года назад

    Daym that was good.

  • @BH-di1xy
    @BH-di1xy 3 года назад +6

    "they are gonna want to eat horse shit again" best quote

  • @kaysheye7784
    @kaysheye7784 3 года назад

    I really like the music @ 5:30

  • @jesusantoniosanchez5174
    @jesusantoniosanchez5174 3 года назад

    Whoever decided to put in the Omar “oh indeed” cut, needs a promotion.

  • @alexjungeee7500
    @alexjungeee7500 3 года назад

    This just shows you how hard it is to be a good big man.

  • @michaelacierno548
    @michaelacierno548 3 года назад

    At 6:00, that isn’t Korkmaz. It’s Dakota Mathias

  • @bigwills53
    @bigwills53 3 года назад

    TASTY VID KYLE

  • @tg2112
    @tg2112 2 года назад

    That vision & playmaking is why he’s the 2nd best center & Jokic is the best !!!!

  • @ethanmoore4280
    @ethanmoore4280 3 года назад +1

    @JKyleMann in the ringer University pod you guys called Ja knife and then mentioned ninja quickly. Why not call him NIN-JA??

  • @Unclenicklnj
    @Unclenicklnj 3 года назад

    Surprise instrumental happens to be fire

  • @amrelarcher8990
    @amrelarcher8990 3 года назад

    the fact that Embiid also played multiple of other sports before focusing on basketball is also very similar to Hakeem

  • @dariusbrooks21
    @dariusbrooks21 3 года назад

    BIG JOJO!

  • @geg6315
    @geg6315 2 года назад

    Wow you called this exactly. Not to mention while we’ve lost Simmons, embiid has seriously made up for a nice chunk of it on defense. When he plays we are solid because he’s so dominant in the paint and how quick laterally he is. The rest of the team is solid defenders plus Matisse. But embiid elevates them all into a defense that can seriously spark some runs

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc 2 года назад

    0:38 😂😂😂😂😂 DAMN JOE

  • @timszysteelz5907
    @timszysteelz5907 3 года назад

    He has always been an M.V.P, he just need the right team to show it.

  • @Guccius_Maximus
    @Guccius_Maximus 3 года назад

    I trust the process.

  • @sdawg7632
    @sdawg7632 3 года назад +1

    If you aint got no haters, you aint poppin 😎

  • @Arvisgrt
    @Arvisgrt 3 года назад

    Well this turned out to be on point lol

  • @bombeofam4670
    @bombeofam4670 3 года назад

    Do a video about mansour bahrami and do more ringer nba stuff like this cause its good content

  • @jacobs2784
    @jacobs2784 3 года назад +3

    3:14 🤯, so first he humiliated the defender, and then the destroyed his career. The closest thing it reminds me of is when Shaq two hand slammed on that guy and just shoved him to the ground coming down, in terms of just bullying a dude on the court.

    • @mentok3027
      @mentok3027 3 года назад +2

      That would be Chris Dudley. At least he had a Yale degree to fall back on after Shaq destroyed him! Apparently they didn't teach FT shooting in the Ivy Leauge though. Dudley was one of the few players in the league that were worse than Shaq from the charity stripe.

  • @andresserbia5603
    @andresserbia5603 3 года назад

    "Driveway pick & roll" JAJAJA

  • @balltalkdeep
    @balltalkdeep 3 года назад +1

    we just did a video on if Joel Embiid being an MVP candidate is forreal or not!

  • @depressedrocketsfan2880
    @depressedrocketsfan2880 3 года назад

    He was an mvp candidate in 2019

  • @shawnjacob1999
    @shawnjacob1999 2 года назад

    Knowing how this season ends and what happens with Ben it just sucks to see they couldn’t figure it out.

  • @benjaminbaumgardner7620
    @benjaminbaumgardner7620 3 года назад

    More j Kyle pls.