I think you make ALOT of good points. Are they solid and definitive? Hard to say but a fresh perspective with someone who is at the very VERYS LEAST trying to draw parallels with pieces that didn't exactly fit anywhere is greatly refreshing and helps to keep things in perspective and it's great you call out details that many people don't discuss.
Let’s spice things up. I’ll make a theory. It’ll be a theory about why the name Jeremy is relevant the series. They’ll have me on GTLive, and then I’ll cut my face off with a guillotine paper slicer.
This is like presenting a video presentation in front of your classmates and teacher, eternally cringing by seeing the mistakes you made and how you spoke
Yeah he seemed really embarrassed about the tree on the hill thing. But even I didn't make that connection and once I saw it in this video, I realize even if there is nothing of a connection there it's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.
Honestly I think FuhNaff is really doing a terrific job. The fact that he's one guy doing these and finding stuff that people like Mat and other long time FNAF theorists haven't is just so wild. And the fact that he was able to go through this and stand behind his work takes major guts
For his first (unsure if it actually is) attempt at it, he's by all metrics knocked it out of the park. Its not perfect at all, but its really fucking strong. There's minor leaps and skimmed details here and there, but its small enough holes that im willing to look past them
i can’t even listen to my own voice messages and then here’s john watching his own video and defending himself on the spot, the respect i have for him-
@@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574 i dont got the timestamp its just something i picked up on, his eyes would get glossy and he would move off camera for a second so just watch the vid and try to catch the moments like a little game ig
This feels like a Thesis Defense, and I absolutely here for it. what cracked me was the "yes sir" 50:42 cause I've absolutely have said that in that way
I know this would be terrible logistically, but it would be amazing to make these sort of collab reactions a regular-ish thing. Just imagine like 3-5 guys watching someone's video and hearing these takes and going on all these crazy fnaf tangents
It's actually a common misconception that liars will look away or shift eyesight. However, the majority of liars want to maintain eye contact to ensure that their lie is being bought and accepted. However, I don't know what it's like for children. Breaking eye contact and looking to the side could also be someone trying to collect information from their mind and process their thoughts.
Personally, I have a very hard time looking people in the eyes in general, no matter who it is. I can do it with animals though. Maybe unconsciously it's because it feels more like people are judging me and animals don't feel the same way to me for some reason.
@@GmmBeast I’ve read somewhere that the trick isn’t keeping eye contact but more so looking for behavioral changes when they lie. So if somebody don’t keep eye contact normally lie and then they suddenly change their habit, it would be easy to notice.
@@horinum when trying to determine if someone is lying, it's good to understand their baseline. If someone naturally has a high blink rate, blinking quickly for them doesn't necessarily mean lying. Also, there's never ever ever one thing alone that can be used to figure out if someone is lying. You have to see a cluster, multiple behaviors all at once or in quick succession that deviate from their baseline. But it's true that liars are way more likely to maintain eye contact to see your reaction to their lies.
I love these collabs so much - one fascinating thing about the fnaf community is the range of people that come together to make such a fun, creative and intelligent community
Patient 46 not looking at the therapist could mean they're lying... Or it could mean they've been through a traumatic event. People who have been through trauma usually struggle to look at someone when recounting what happened. The therapist doesn't believe patient 46 has experienced trauma because they "had a happy childhood", so it makes sense that the therapist would conclude that patient 46 is lying. But we know that patient 46 could be dealing with the memory of trauma from their own past life or even someone else's
It's actually a common misconception that liars will look away or shift eyesight. The majority of liars want to maintain eye contact to ensure that their lie is being bought and accepted. However, I don't know what it's like for children.
Yeah and as someone who's dealt with someone else's memories and trying to come to terms with that: it's not easy. It's so jarring and an almost empty stomach feeling when having to deal with the comparisons. Also this just reminded me, there's science behind people looking down meaning "internal dialogue" or "kinaesthetic"
Exactly. When I'm uncomfortable I tend to look away and I've been taught that staring is disrespectful so I hate it when teachers would assume that lack of eye contact makes students rude. And I only ever hold eye contact when I'm mad and want be intimidating. I'll look at people when I lie to, like you said, see if the person believes the lie or not. It depends on the person but for the most part lack of eye contact rarely is a bad thing.
I love how John looks so scared by MatPat whilst Mat is just being like “huh never thought of that” also i love how Mat hits us with strongly connected stuff while John kinda points out what could be connected
I really enjoy the explanation from John about how Nightmarionne wasnt or isn’t necessarily the character itself but rather the concept of a “dark version of Charlie” The one quote that always sticks out from UCN is, “I am the fearful reflection of what you have created.” Charlie as the puppet in the same game mentions that they’re not afraid of Afton anymore, and Nightmarionne says “fearful reflection of what you have created,” which always felt strange as like… why are they the “fearful” reflection? Doesn’t that imply they have fear? And the line reflection also implies something too. I think it’s interesting that there can be this little sweet girl voice coming out of the Puppet while the “dark” version sounds demonic, mentions they’re “fearful”, and also states that they’re a reflection of something Afton has created (the possessed puppet?). I kinda hope they take that somewhere in the future, but the concept alone is cool.
I appreciate Matt bringing up the books being required reading for lore around 28:00, and therefore somewhat alienating a part of the fanbase, because hes right; reading is a HUGE commitment to some people. And in order to indulge in more of the FNAF lore, you are forced to read thru an ever-growing book pile that could take people months to read them all. Its why I have huge appreciation for people who explain the book lore in simple talking bullet points like Dawko, because it takes away that huge commitment while still being able to indulge in the content.
You can really tell matpats idea at the end got John thinking, the expression was perfect. Looking forward to either his own follow up, or the sequel to this video.
That was nice. I like that guy as a guest. He's open minded but don't hesitate to state his opinions and defend them despite being on a big channel like that. Keep inviting him that was pretty cool.
1:07 "(We) welcome anyone and everyone to the team" I think it's only a matter of time until MatPat pulls a "welcome to the family, son" and brings John to the Theorist team (if he hasn't done that already) 👪
@@alexandercollins5704 if it was intentional or they come out with news it was for the lore. That is a stupid thing. But I also think steel wool would have told us and kept some of the glitches integral to the lore even if they were really frustrating.
@@WolfEyes88 oh no I know but it would’ve been really smart to have a game about a glitching antagonist with glitches themselves being integral to the experience of the gameplay
Honestly at this point I think FNAF into madness is actually Scott’s way of saying the more you try to figure out the lore the more madness you’ll endure
Honestly John is a great sport in this being able to discuss a video you made with other veterans and taking the criticism and arguing back and forth is really nice. Great video would love more just discussions like this in the future
this is going to be interesting. The man himself came to defend his argument against Matt. What a video. (Specifically the cold open argument) Edit: I’m glad this whole community is open to change, unlike the subreddits that actively fight against change. Some points he proposed he was glad to recognize where things went awry, and that’s great. He brought up A LOT that had been slept on, so that’s something I can agree with, but the argument involving p46 was a little off, so I’m glad he recognized that
Oh my GOSH yes. I'm so glad all 3 are together at once. I've been excitedly looking forward to these, because FuhNaff has such a fresh take on the entire series that it's really made me aware of how many more details there are in the franchise that I either didn't know about, or missed entirely.
I love seeing John stand his ground on his theory when born of these two FNAF titans are telling him he is wrong and he will not give up on his theory.
*Matpat:* "I dont agree with this" *5 seconds later* 35:38 *Matpat:* "Okay- I do agree with this" I love Johns smug smile lmao I find it frustrating but funny that Matt pauses the video and talks about the thing he disagrees with for 5-10 minutes then a couple seconds later actually agrees with it. Bet 1hour of Matts reaction to Johns theory video would be cut off if he would just let the video play before talking. Love these two man
John tends to stretch quite a bit for his videos. But what I love about it is that in doing so he's coming up with a lot of new ideas to think about and readjust our view of these games. Even if he doesn't solve something, he gives the community a new perspective and then we as a collective can solve it.
scott himself said in his interview with dawko that if the fanbase doesn't understand something he's hinting at, he will try to make a point in the next release to clarify maybe scott is using the graphic novels to achieve exactly that, but leaning more towards the book content?
These types of videos have quickly become some of my favourite on GTLive. This one was especially great because of the conversation between Matt, John, and Tom. Great video and I hope you have John and Tom back on the channel soon
I'm so proud of John for being willing to defend his theories when facing what is probably one of the most intimidating audiences. That sounds terrifying and I know i'd fold like a piece of paper in his position "yeah I've spent months on this, but idk maybe ur right"
As an artist looking at the chica rainbow in the graphic novel, there’s no doubt in my mind that is intentional. Look at the art style and line width of the other drawings on that page, the line art is a lot thicker and shakier on every detail except the rainbow, in fact the rainbow looks like it’s been added in post to me it stands out that much
I enjoy the fresh eyes on the series. I love hearing so many different points of view and the different evidence these new eyes are finding. Love the new theories, love the new people. Have a great day theorist team :D
i'm halfway through watching this but i just wanna say i absolutely love this format and really enjoy the back and forth, it's such an enjoyable watch. ty game theory and fuhnaff
I love this! In the grand scheme of things does this matter? No, but MatPat & Tom are wonderful examples of how you can disagree with someone without being mean. It's always such fun watching MatPat & other creators theorize together!
I find the idea of the burial ground infection pretty intriguing. I personally have always thought that Roxy was two different kids, perhaps twins, talking to each other. And if what he's saying has merit, then that could mean Gregory is two deceased individuals as well.
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Its so nice to listen to you guys talking, sharing your thoughts and ideas and just having a nice time reacting!! I wouldn't mind watching even if its 2,3 or 4 hours! Its a nice thing!!! Good job to John on making it and i really like what he has been saying!!
i love how FuhNaff for the most of the video just sits there, like you sit during an audition for a job while the recruiter looks through your CV JUDGING YOU.
I really appreciate the sentiment "It doesn't really matter which of us is right" because in the end, this whole thing is supposed to be fun. Finding details and making connections to figure out a story is interesting and engaging and that doesn't change just because you use different details or make different connections or draw different conclusions - or if it later turns out that you were hinging a conclusion on a connection that didn't exist or a detail that wasn't important. It's the whole process that's cool, especially as it leads to this sort of collab where people approaching the same game from different perspectives can discuss the different things they see about it.
My dad does photography and graphic design stuff for a living, and I'm just getting into the animation field, which has involved a lot of college courses about learning the Adobe creative cloud and design in general. I sometimes show him my work and make the exact faces that John was making this whole video 🤣
I love these videos where you all come together and have fun bouncing your ideas and methods off of each other. I love that this franchise is still so engaging because it reminds me of when my oldest son was so much younger and the joy of sharing one of the 1st age appropriate horror game for us to share.
I'm glad that John doubled down on the parts of the theory he supported, but was open to being wrong and questioned other parts. I can't imagine how intimidating it would be to be questioned by people you look up to and the pressure to completely fold and abandon all your previous thoughts and ideas.
what i like about john is that he likes to take big steps. matt often spends a while on smaller details looking for little things, but john will take anything and roll with it, and i think thats what we need at this point in the lore.
Why couldn't Charlie be the CEO who's designing the Megaplex around her buried memories? Like she was Henry's daughter, which is why she's brought back, but from there, she starts revealing her influence over the franchise and how she's resurrected it - give gifts, give life, and there are gifts everywhere in this game
One thing that could aid to Tape Girl lying the whole time is when you're putting together Glitchtrap and he's constantly saying "Hello? Can you hear me?" (which is what Tape Girl starts off with) being a hint as it's part of the end goal. Tape Girl reintroducing themselves could also be a way to pretend they weren't possessed at one point to build a background and manipulate the player.
I can attest to that cause I do this a lot when I talk to people. I have social anxiety/just anxiety as a whole tbh and it’s difficult for me to hold eye contact when talking to people. Not because I’m lying about something, but just cause I’m uncomfortable just as you stated. :)
If tape girl's original intention of tape 1 was to stop people from reassembling the logs it would say don't collect them as the first words and wouldn't be telling you that there were more or that they might be out of order. She hid them so she knows where she hid each piece.
It's actually a common misconception that liars will look away or shift eyesight. However, the majority of liars want to maintain eye contact to ensure that their lie is being bought and accepted. However, I don't know what it's like for children.
@@nekovannoxthe original story was great, I think the fact that his original arc “the dream theory” got so publicly disputed and was so disliked, he had to change things that weren’t as led into. Forget anything past fnaf 4 and it’s actually a really clever story. Now, anything past that? Ehhhhhh
@@coltonr83colt FNaF 1-3 was a genuinely beautiful story (might be nostalgia talking), FNaF 4 was confusing and cluttered it a bit, Sister Location threw a wrench in everything, and FNaF 6 did an okay job to end the series. We don’t talk about the books or anything past UCN.
Fun fact it's a misconception that when people lie they look away. More often than not they make more eye contact that usual. Either because they've heard the misconception before and they're intentionally trying to throw you off or because they're trying to see how believable their lie is.
Ooh, I loved this! I've been waiting for Matt and Tom to react to this and having John on was a delightful surprise! I'm excited for a second part that expands on the discussion and having another fnaf theorist to bounce ideas off of in a video is absolutely fascinating!
This is so wholesome, such sweet interactions, I love John and I'm so happy he's started making theory videos and we get these Collab videos. I completely agree he's brought back a flame and life to FNAF that I haven't felt in awhile, despite always being into FNAF and loving it, and I'm just so happy and invigorated
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I think you make ALOT of good points. Are they solid and definitive? Hard to say but a fresh perspective with someone who is at the very VERYS LEAST trying to draw parallels with pieces that didn't exactly fit anywhere is greatly refreshing and helps to keep things in perspective and it's great you call out details that many people don't discuss.
you looked so nervous bro 😂. i love your videos tho
55:47 VR sisters, there's two separate people
Most intense conversation I've ever heard, by 3 guys with the most basic names
Mat, John and Tom
LOL I thought the same as well, just all 1 syllable names
If we could just get Markiplier in this we'd have a full set lmao
And I’m Sean
Oof
Let’s spice things up.
I’ll make a theory. It’ll be a theory about why the name Jeremy is relevant the series. They’ll have me on GTLive, and then I’ll cut my face off with a guillotine paper slicer.
This whole situation is like showing your parents your homework you tried hard on 💀
Ong
So true 💀
the first 10 seconds was enough for me to know I will be laughing way too much to be in public
Yep, that’s how John feels
Or when you show your final paper to your favorite teach/professor lol
Matts little “Huh.” For every point John makes that didn’t hit him at first is just so funny
and John's nervous face to know if Mat thinks it's good or not.
@@ilycea I felt that
I can tell John was so nervous during this
Well it's like presenting your project in from of the class sort of vibe so I thought he did well all things considered.
He was. But he did sooo well!
This is like presenting a video presentation in front of your classmates and teacher, eternally cringing by seeing the mistakes you made and how you spoke
Yeah ahha still- Very proud of him tho!
Yeah he seemed really embarrassed about the tree on the hill thing. But even I didn't make that connection and once I saw it in this video, I realize even if there is nothing of a connection there it's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.
*John and Tom arguing*
*Matt browsing the Fandom page in dead silence*
Like a dad just used to his kids' banter 😂
i can't sit through a 30 minute lecture but i'll gladly watch an hour of FNAF theories :D
Same and I don't even play FNAF 😂
I can't sit though any lecture but if it was a FNAF lecture I'm all ears and passing the test with 100
30 minute lecture about important stuff for school? Nah!
Fnaf lecture: that's good write that down!
yeah i can relate that
Oh, that's so true!!
Who needs a accounting degree when I can have a FNAF degree?
Watching John crap his pants a little every time Matt pauses is golden
LMAOO
XD
Honestly I think FuhNaff is really doing a terrific job. The fact that he's one guy doing these and finding stuff that people like Mat and other long time FNAF theorists haven't is just so wild. And the fact that he was able to go through this and stand behind his work takes major guts
For his first (unsure if it actually is) attempt at it, he's by all metrics knocked it out of the park. Its not perfect at all, but its really fucking strong. There's minor leaps and skimmed details here and there, but its small enough holes that im willing to look past them
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i can’t even listen to my own voice messages and then here’s john watching his own video and defending himself on the spot, the respect i have for him-
exactly lol
I mean they edit their vids everyday so they are probably used to it
John was embarrassed and so proud at the same time to have MattPatt sometimes laugh and praise his theories. It's so wholesome! LOL!
you can see him crying a few times, if i was having my theory being criticized by matpat i'd probably cry too
@@dontscaretheegg timestamp?
@@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574 i dont got the timestamp its just something i picked up on, his eyes would get glossy and he would move off camera for a second so just watch the vid and try to catch the moments like a little game ig
This feels like a Thesis Defense, and I absolutely here for it. what cracked me was the "yes sir" 50:42 cause I've absolutely have said that in that way
Oh yeah, that KILLED me. SO funny XD
The best part of the whole video.
The stopping the presentation every 30 seconds to ask about a point that's later in the presentation is accurate, here for this!!
I know this would be terrible logistically, but it would be amazing to make these sort of collab reactions a regular-ish thing. Just imagine like 3-5 guys watching someone's video and hearing these takes and going on all these crazy fnaf tangents
Rotate between Head Editor Dan, Tom, Dawko, FuhNaff, and SuperHorrorBro Mike. That would be AMAZING
@@daisychainsknoxI love how u have a very specific detailed list of who you want to see 😂
@@daisychainsknox throw Mark in and make him guess what the bits mean
@@SarahEliza823 I just chose the ones who seem to have the most knowledge, but I do love all of them 🤣🤣🤣
Yes
I like how Fuhnaff just looks at matpat the whole time and just waits for his reaction.
I love how the first few minuets are just Tom and John nodding at whatever MatPat says.
*nods*
*bigger nods*
nodders
*shakes head*
*very nods*
Eye contact does not exclusively indicate lying. It also indicates fear, insecurity, distrust, discomfort, etc.
It's actually a common misconception that liars will look away or shift eyesight. However, the majority of liars want to maintain eye contact to ensure that their lie is being bought and accepted. However, I don't know what it's like for children. Breaking eye contact and looking to the side could also be someone trying to collect information from their mind and process their thoughts.
Personally, I have a very hard time looking people in the eyes in general, no matter who it is. I can do it with animals though. Maybe unconsciously it's because it feels more like people are judging me and animals don't feel the same way to me for some reason.
@@GmmBeast I’ve read somewhere that the trick isn’t keeping eye contact but more so looking for behavioral changes when they lie. So if somebody don’t keep eye contact normally lie and then they suddenly change their habit, it would be easy to notice.
@@horinum when trying to determine if someone is lying, it's good to understand their baseline. If someone naturally has a high blink rate, blinking quickly for them doesn't necessarily mean lying. Also, there's never ever ever one thing alone that can be used to figure out if someone is lying. You have to see a cluster, multiple behaviors all at once or in quick succession that deviate from their baseline. But it's true that liars are way more likely to maintain eye contact to see your reaction to their lies.
@@GmmBeast You pretty much just repeat my point but I see that we agree
I love these collabs so much - one fascinating thing about the fnaf community is the range of people that come together to make such a fun, creative and intelligent community
And in that one rare moment where everyone agrees...... biiiiiiitch😎
couldn't agree more
No it's not like that not even last year was half the community hates on Scott for his political views 😶
This was in google meet
Eye eye
Patient 46 not looking at the therapist could mean they're lying... Or it could mean they've been through a traumatic event. People who have been through trauma usually struggle to look at someone when recounting what happened.
The therapist doesn't believe patient 46 has experienced trauma because they "had a happy childhood", so it makes sense that the therapist would conclude that patient 46 is lying.
But we know that patient 46 could be dealing with the memory of trauma from their own past life or even someone else's
It's actually a common misconception that liars will look away or shift eyesight. The majority of liars want to maintain eye contact to ensure that their lie is being bought and accepted. However, I don't know what it's like for children.
That's an interesting take....
Yeah and as someone who's dealt with someone else's memories and trying to come to terms with that: it's not easy. It's so jarring and an almost empty stomach feeling when having to deal with the comparisons.
Also this just reminded me, there's science behind people looking down meaning "internal dialogue" or "kinaesthetic"
Exactly. When I'm uncomfortable I tend to look away and I've been taught that staring is disrespectful so I hate it when teachers would assume that lack of eye contact makes students rude.
And I only ever hold eye contact when I'm mad and want be intimidating. I'll look at people when I lie to, like you said, see if the person believes the lie or not.
It depends on the person but for the most part lack of eye contact rarely is a bad thing.
I love how John looks so scared by MatPat whilst Mat is just being like “huh never thought of that” also i love how Mat hits us with strongly connected stuff while John kinda points out what could be connected
I really enjoy the explanation from John about how Nightmarionne wasnt or isn’t necessarily the character itself but rather the concept of a “dark version of Charlie”
The one quote that always sticks out from UCN is, “I am the fearful reflection of what you have created.”
Charlie as the puppet in the same game mentions that they’re not afraid of Afton anymore, and Nightmarionne says “fearful reflection of what you have created,” which always felt strange as like… why are they the “fearful” reflection? Doesn’t that imply they have fear?
And the line reflection also implies something too.
I think it’s interesting that there can be this little sweet girl voice coming out of the Puppet while the “dark” version sounds demonic, mentions they’re “fearful”, and also states that they’re a reflection of something Afton has created (the possessed puppet?).
I kinda hope they take that somewhere in the future, but the concept alone is cool.
YESSSSS. please john deserves the world and i appreciate you guys getting his name out there. he works so hard. you guys are awesome.
I hope one day that Scott Cawthon will just do like a live event where he sits down and explains the lore from beginning to end
He'd die of old age before he could finish
same
It's never going to happen.
@@RFDN0 For sure, it will *_not._*
@@Classical_Leyton No.
I appreciate Matt bringing up the books being required reading for lore around 28:00, and therefore somewhat alienating a part of the fanbase, because hes right; reading is a HUGE commitment to some people. And in order to indulge in more of the FNAF lore, you are forced to read thru an ever-growing book pile that could take people months to read them all.
Its why I have huge appreciation for people who explain the book lore in simple talking bullet points like Dawko, because it takes away that huge commitment while still being able to indulge in the content.
You can really tell matpats idea at the end got John thinking, the expression was perfect. Looking forward to either his own follow up, or the sequel to this video.
i was so casually watching a previous gt live and this popped up im so thrilled
omg sameeee
i honestly wish matt wasn’t limited in his time, i'd gladly watch them react, discuss and theories for three hours and more
Multiple hours yessss.
Is there any reason why his lives are limited??
@@awesomewow7313 4 youtube channels to run as well as having a wife and kid. That's gonna take up some time!
@@awesomewow7313 4 channels, a whole business, and a family
@@sam_6806 ohhh makes sense ^^ thank you Love
This is awesome to have John on the channel!
That was nice. I like that guy as a guest. He's open minded but don't hesitate to state his opinions and defend them despite being on a big channel like that. Keep inviting him that was pretty cool.
John: yeah the reception to my fnaf vids have been pretty good
MatPat: 🙃
1:07 "(We) welcome anyone and everyone to the team" I think it's only a matter of time until MatPat pulls a "welcome to the family, son" and brings John to the Theorist team (if he hasn't done that already) 👪
I'm just waiting for the day that Matpat starts questioning if the glitches in Security Breach were intentional... lol
actually now i’m questioning it because that would be both incredibly genius and incredibly funny and very stupid
@@alexandercollins5704 if it was intentional or they come out with news it was for the lore. That is a stupid thing. But I also think steel wool would have told us and kept some of the glitches integral to the lore even if they were really frustrating.
Giga Monty canon question mark?
@@WolfEyes88 oh no I know but it would’ve been really smart to have a game about a glitching antagonist with glitches themselves being integral to the experience of the gameplay
One day we'll all realize that AstralSpiff was right about Security Breach lore all along
Honestly at this point I think FNAF into madness is actually Scott’s way of saying the more you try to figure out the lore the more madness you’ll endure
oo I like this
Only matpat can turn a 15 minute video
Into a hour long thing
Make it 2 hours, they aren't done with with the 15 min yet
Correction, only a little more than half that video
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Well they did spend 11 minutes just chatting
Gotta get that sweet revenue
Honestly John is a great sport in this being able to discuss a video you made with other veterans and taking the criticism and arguing back and forth is really nice. Great video would love more just discussions like this in the future
this is going to be interesting. The man himself came to defend his argument against Matt. What a video. (Specifically the cold open argument)
Edit: I’m glad this whole community is open to change, unlike the subreddits that actively fight against change. Some points he proposed he was glad to recognize where things went awry, and that’s great. He brought up A LOT that had been slept on, so that’s something I can agree with, but the argument involving p46 was a little off, so I’m glad he recognized that
Poor FuhNaff looks like he's showing his parents his favorite musician and waiting for approval xD
Try listen to music about video games and have EVERYONE hate it!
@@Honeycomb126 Already have
I'd say welcome to the club then, but your already in it.
@@Honeycomb126 Lol
Oh my GOSH yes. I'm so glad all 3 are together at once. I've been excitedly looking forward to these, because FuhNaff has such a fresh take on the entire series that it's really made me aware of how many more details there are in the franchise that I either didn't know about, or missed entirely.
I love seeing John stand his ground on his theory when born of these two FNAF titans are telling him he is wrong and he will not give up on his theory.
I’m so proud of John, I’ve been watching him since the beginning and he’s come so far 💜
*Matpat:* "I dont agree with this"
*5 seconds later*
35:38 *Matpat:* "Okay- I do agree with this"
I love Johns smug smile lmao
I find it frustrating but funny that Matt pauses the video and talks about the thing he disagrees with for 5-10 minutes then a couple seconds later actually agrees with it. Bet 1hour of Matts reaction to Johns theory video would be cut off if he would just let the video play before talking. Love these two man
I see John as the next Mat Pat making theories for the next gen FNAF games, not necessarily a passing of the torch but it gives me that kinda vibe
Maybe he should be part of Game Theory instead
"The apprentice appeared, now starts his training" kinda vibe
@@lusiareyof6093 yes! Exactly this vibe
I love how nonconfrontational and sweet John is, he's so nice
My boy john made it :,)
This is great. I see good things coming from John.
“I accept my fate.”
John tends to stretch quite a bit for his videos. But what I love about it is that in doing so he's coming up with a lot of new ideas to think about and readjust our view of these games.
Even if he doesn't solve something, he gives the community a new perspective and then we as a collective can solve it.
I’m so glad that FuhNaff is now working with MatPat and other theorists he really deserved it.
23:39 idk why but just the “hide. no hide.” KILLED ME 😂
scott himself said in his interview with dawko that if the fanbase doesn't understand something he's hinting at, he will try to make a point in the next release to clarify
maybe scott is using the graphic novels to achieve exactly that, but leaning more towards the book content?
A collab with three of the greatest FNAF enthusiasts! So excited!!!
These types of videos have quickly become some of my favourite on GTLive. This one was especially great because of the conversation between Matt, John, and Tom. Great video and I hope you have John and Tom back on the channel soon
8:12 the way Matt and Tom both laugh and lean to the same side is hilarious
I'm so proud of John for being willing to defend his theories when facing what is probably one of the most intimidating audiences. That sounds terrifying and I know i'd fold like a piece of paper in his position "yeah I've spent months on this, but idk maybe ur right"
Having FuhNaff here as well makes this even more interesting and entertaining
john's face throughout the video is hilarious. I also really enjoy this style of video
I can barely sit through my homework but weirdly enough listening this y'all talk about fnaf helps me get it done
18:16 the absolute nervousness fuhnaff has on his face is just so relatable
Not the first time you've all done a Collab, but it's nice to see him work with you.
Keep in mind, devs said there is still one of the "favorite unsolved easter eggs" in the game, still more to be found big or small, lots
That was before the whole Nightmarione and whatnot thing, so it could've been the plushies or that whole piece of lore, but maybe not
@@qwertious100% bro.. hope that's it lol but we'll never know 😭
The long-awaited finale is finally here, I've been waiting for this!
And somehow it needs part2 haha
AAAAAND it's not the finally. Who could have possibly see that one coming with a *FNAF Theory* .
As an artist looking at the chica rainbow in the graphic novel, there’s no doubt in my mind that is intentional. Look at the art style and line width of the other drawings on that page, the line art is a lot thicker and shakier on every detail except the rainbow, in fact the rainbow looks like it’s been added in post to me it stands out that much
I enjoy the fresh eyes on the series. I love hearing so many different points of view and the different evidence these new eyes are finding. Love the new theories, love the new people. Have a great day theorist team :D
i'm halfway through watching this but i just wanna say i absolutely love this format and really enjoy the back and forth, it's such an enjoyable watch. ty game theory and fuhnaff
I knew this was what John was hinting at! So glad you did this collab.
58:06
"Will you come back, John? 🥺"
"yeah! 😁 I'd love to 🥰"
I love this! In the grand scheme of things does this matter? No, but MatPat & Tom are wonderful examples of how you can disagree with someone without being mean. It's always such fun watching MatPat & other creators theorize together!
I find the idea of the burial ground infection pretty intriguing. I personally have always thought that Roxy was two different kids, perhaps twins, talking to each other. And if what he's saying has merit, then that could mean Gregory is two deceased individuals as well.
Matt’s like “nuh uh FuhNaff, I’m dragging you with me to discuss your theory” 😂
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Its so nice to listen to you guys talking, sharing your thoughts and ideas and just having a nice time reacting!! I wouldn't mind watching even if its 2,3 or 4 hours! Its a nice thing!!! Good job to John on making it and i really like what he has been saying!!
i love how FuhNaff for the most of the video just sits there, like you sit during an audition for a job while the recruiter looks through your CV JUDGING YOU.
I really appreciate the sentiment "It doesn't really matter which of us is right" because in the end, this whole thing is supposed to be fun. Finding details and making connections to figure out a story is interesting and engaging and that doesn't change just because you use different details or make different connections or draw different conclusions - or if it later turns out that you were hinging a conclusion on a connection that didn't exist or a detail that wasn't important.
It's the whole process that's cool, especially as it leads to this sort of collab where people approaching the same game from different perspectives can discuss the different things they see about it.
Oh look it's MatPat, John, and Tom... Looks like we have a triad of Fnaf theories.
FNAF BOYS. FNAF BOYS. GONNA SOLVE FNAF FNAF BOYS
20:23 - It's really funny to see Fuhnaff looking up to where Matt's facecam is as he starts to explain something to Matt XD
My dad does photography and graphic design stuff for a living, and I'm just getting into the animation field, which has involved a lot of college courses about learning the Adobe creative cloud and design in general. I sometimes show him my work and make the exact faces that John was making this whole video 🤣
I love how excited he looks sitting there waiting for the other two to see his idea! It's great.
I love @58:22, it’s so short, but I love that John is totally ready to do the “fnaf boys” dance there
I love these videos where you all come together and have fun bouncing your ideas and methods off of each other. I love that this franchise is still so engaging because it reminds me of when my oldest son was so much younger and the joy of sharing one of the 1st age appropriate horror game for us to share.
Security Breach. The story of two daughters continuing where their fathers left off
It would explain the 2 vanessas in the ending where Gregory and Freddy defeat vanny 🤔
This has the same energy as asking your teacher to read your essay before you submit it 😭
I'm so glad I have this video to accompany me while I eat dinner. Thank you for all the hard work and great content!
I'm glad that John doubled down on the parts of the theory he supported, but was open to being wrong and questioned other parts. I can't imagine how intimidating it would be to be questioned by people you look up to and the pressure to completely fold and abandon all your previous thoughts and ideas.
This series. I love it. Thank you for the upload.
2:40 John reacting to Matpat talk about him for the first 3 mins is such a mood lmao
The collab of the century! We need only one more to complete the fnaf boys quartet!
Dawko
@@fizzyizzypop1300 i was thinking the same
I wish they had a podcast
Watch MatPat react to FuhNaff's FNAF theories... with FuhNaff?
Yes. Please.
I like what I'm seeing.
what i like about john is that he likes to take big steps. matt often spends a while on smaller details looking for little things, but john will take anything and roll with it, and i think thats what we need at this point in the lore.
This was so darn wholesome, I loved it.
If Matpat brought John to talk about John's theory vids we need A bunch of other theorists to talk about MatPats theories cause I think thatd be fun
Why couldn't Charlie be the CEO who's designing the Megaplex around her buried memories? Like she was Henry's daughter, which is why she's brought back, but from there, she starts revealing her influence over the franchise and how she's resurrected it - give gifts, give life, and there are gifts everywhere in this game
One thing that could aid to Tape Girl lying the whole time is when you're putting together Glitchtrap and he's constantly saying "Hello? Can you hear me?" (which is what Tape Girl starts off with) being a hint as it's part of the end goal. Tape Girl reintroducing themselves could also be a way to pretend they weren't possessed at one point to build a background and manipulate the player.
Looking away doesn't necessarily mean you're lying. It could mean you're uncomfortable or nervous too
I can attest to that cause I do this a lot when I talk to people. I have social anxiety/just anxiety as a whole tbh and it’s difficult for me to hold eye contact when talking to people. Not because I’m lying about something, but just cause I’m uncomfortable just as you stated. :)
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With these second looks at Security Breach, I really wish we had input from Scott or Steel Wool
I feel like a series where we listen to the theory crafters work out everything in their heads and juggle ideas would be a fasinating to watch
8:11- I just love the synchronization between Matt and Tom, you know?
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If tape girl's original intention of tape 1 was to stop people from reassembling the logs it would say don't collect them as the first words and wouldn't be telling you that there were more or that they might be out of order. She hid them so she knows where she hid each piece.
It's actually a common misconception that liars will look away or shift eyesight. However, the majority of liars want to maintain eye contact to ensure that their lie is being bought and accepted. However, I don't know what it's like for children.
scott is such a good game creator
Ong
Game creator? Yes. Storyteller? Ehhhh
@@nekovannoxthe original story was great, I think the fact that his original arc “the dream theory” got so publicly disputed and was so disliked, he had to change things that weren’t as led into. Forget anything past fnaf 4 and it’s actually a really clever story. Now, anything past that? Ehhhhhh
@@coltonr83colt FNaF 1-3 was a genuinely beautiful story (might be nostalgia talking), FNaF 4 was confusing and cluttered it a bit, Sister Location threw a wrench in everything, and FNaF 6 did an okay job to end the series. We don’t talk about the books or anything past UCN.
@@ic0nic707 noo they're good too just FNAF security breach ruined everything...
Fun fact it's a misconception that when people lie they look away. More often than not they make more eye contact that usual. Either because they've heard the misconception before and they're intentionally trying to throw you off or because they're trying to see how believable their lie is.
Ooh, I loved this! I've been waiting for Matt and Tom to react to this and having John on was a delightful surprise! I'm excited for a second part that expands on the discussion and having another fnaf theorist to bounce ideas off of in a video is absolutely fascinating!
This is so wholesome, such sweet interactions, I love John and I'm so happy he's started making theory videos and we get these Collab videos. I completely agree he's brought back a flame and life to FNAF that I haven't felt in awhile, despite always being into FNAF and loving it, and I'm just so happy and invigorated