I've just watched a video of the manufacture of alloy wheels in a bask street factory in Pakistan using scrap aluminium with quality control none existent. The comparison is unbelievable.
I have seen the same video. That's why I am here to see the difference. I live in Pakistan, I might have to buy one for myself and now I know what not to buy.
I've watched a video of Rays engineering wheels and I thought the wheels in this video should be avoided at all costs so I dread to think what the back street wheels are like 😮
The process at 2:50 is a degassing process. Nitrogen is passed through a carbon tube which is inserted into the molten Aluminium. The tube spins and the nitrogen is flushed through the Aluminium from the bottom of the crucible to the top. The nitrogen has an affinity to moisture and effectively pulls the moisture from the melt. This process reduces or stops you having porosity ( tiny holes ) in the alloy casting.
Thank you for posting this. This video is fascinating and mystifying at the same time. Do you know what is happening during the times - two, as I recall - when the wheel is shown with a copper colored wire mesh item in the wheel center? The item appears to be roughly cone shaped.
@@thardyryll If you turn the subtitles on, it does give a brief explanation of each stage. The copper cone is labelled "foreign matter filter" - presumably to catch any last-minute slag making it into the mould.
@@StrsAmbrg I think they're just blowing the mould with compressed air to remove any dust or debris. The yellowish grey colour is just its natural colour.
@@thardyryll It’s a Silicon Carbide filter. They stop rubbish and dross entering the casting. Silicon Carbide wont interfere with the drilling bits like the ceramic filters which are quite hard. The carbide filters also tend to float to the top of the melt when reused although they are most likely using new Aluminium Ingots each time when making car rims
From the melting of pieces of aluminum ingots in the furnace, through dozens of processes to the final exquisite wheels, few people participated in it, and most of the work was handed over to the robot, which is very good!
Thanks for this video, as always, well done the Engineers who design and construct these machines, it is a harsh environment and the robots do well to cope. It is staggering to realise that a modern car production line will need thousands of these wheels every day, with "just in time " production imagine the panic when a machine breaks down.
경부고속도로 건설할때, 고속도로 만들어 봐야, 소수 부자들이 외제차 끌고 첩 옆에 끼고 나들이 다닐때나 쓸거라고 반대하던 위인들이 있었죠. 그 둘은 한국이 전세계 최고의 자동차 생산국가 반열에 오를수 있을거라고는 꿈에도 못꾼 위인들 입니다. 그런데 지금 한국의 정치권은 그 둘의 똘마니들로 가득차 있죠.
wow! great contribution to Korean GDP and national employment. This implies that koreans love their country, working hard but doing out of love, with passion and excellence that is why their economy is continually blooming and its government also doing its best for the peoples' welfare. This is my dream also with the Filipinos , you Filipinos are intelligent and wonderful people hoping very soon that you can have hybrid elections without smartmagic so you can have good leaders to lead your beautiful country. True leaders should apply for govt positions not the incompetent and corrupt ones. Always remember that your inner virtues, talents, skills and elevated values are the true leaders. You can start your abundant consciousness programming thru your educational system by honing first the character of your students and the rest will follow. My good wishes to you, United Philippine Islands!
Думается, что самое удивительное во всем этом, не само производство колеса, а создание самого оборудования и установок, для технологического процесса!😊
Soon there will be not only aluminum. This one, I see, was produced in Russia, but the sanctions now will not allow it to be freely sold. There are many more metals.
@@redRusEmperor That's why the top of the Washington Monument is aluminum -- from when it was expensive to produce because electrolysis was not then known.
У нас тоже делают диски . Слики кстати самые одни из самых прочных в мире . А есть такие же мягкие как вазовские, точнее красноярские. Но они толще . Момо например .
if you want to improve your car performance by changing the wheels/tires, the first thing, the very first thing you must check is, do the wheels weigh less than your standard wheels. If they weigh more than your standard wheels you are only going to be hurting performance. Weight added to area of the wheels- brakes- spindles- Control arms, shock absorber, that is called unsprung weight. That’s what your suspension has to contend with while keeping your wheels in contact with the road over irregularities like potholes, bumps, ripples.. if the wheels you buy or heavier than your stock wheels, your performance is going backwards. unsprung weight is so critical that for decades, Porsche has been using light wheels with titanium Lugnuts just to save a few ounces.. The Formula One world champion car builder Graham Chapman was once asked what does he do to make his cars so good in handling and cornering. He said that he adds lightness to his cars.. So if you’re buying heavier wheels than stock, using heavier Lugnuts than stock, and using heavier tires than stock, you are not improving performance, you are all throwing money away, and you are hurting performance.. when the wheel/tire combination weighs more than the standard wheel/tire combination, you will notice that your wheels/tires, hit potholes much harder, your suspension can’t recover as quickly as it used to getting ready for the next bump.. that extra weight being put into motion by the bump, the spring has to absorb that energy, and your shock absorber controls the spring rebound. That process takes longer the heavier the wheel is.. there’s one other thing to consider when you’re thinking about buying aftermarket wheels.. those wheels are not nearly as durable as stock wheels 99% of the time..They dent very easily.. just look at a Bugatti Veyron set of wheels/tires. To have a new set of tires installed. The owner of the Veyron hast to send the wheels back to Italy. And the price of a new set of tires not including wheels was $40,000.. formula One wheels for the Formula One cars, are not used a second time. They are so barely engineered that they cannot survive the stress of having tires installed, removed, and installed a second time. They’re only good once..
I thought Bugatti was based in France.What you have written here make sense for formula one cars not your average car.I do agree with you based on physics but when there are other factors effecting all said it becomes irrelevant a few ounces here and there.The main variant is load factor of number of passengers and other loads,luggage carried which has more influence on how the car behaves under those conditions.On the other hand we all know every bit of extra weight carried will use more fuel and effect suspension and brake performance but won't be noticeable as such as in your comment.
@@mehmettemel8725 you were right, the Bugatti is made in France as are the Michelin tires that come from the factory on that car. I remember watching one of the television car auctions is where I heard that a set of tires cost $40,000 and you must send the wheels back to the factory to have them installed. The announcer that said that on the television auction said Italy was where the wheels had to be sent. But I think you are right, it’s probably France.. I don’t usually remember little trivial things like that, but I thought it was remarkable that you actually have to send the wheels back to the factory to have new tires installed. I wonder how long that takes. At least a week.. The main factor is not how much of a load you were carrying. Absolutely not. The main factor is unsprung weight. Not sprung weight. unsprung weight is the weight of your wheel/tire/Lugnuts/spindle/control arms, all of those things that your suspension has to deal with in trying to keep your tires in contact with the road..That’s why I Porsche for example uses titanium lug nuts to save just a few ounces per wheel.. formula one is the extreme example, but the same principles apply and always will.. example I changed tires on my motorcycle/street bike. A Goldwing The used worn tires I removed, the rear tire weighed 25 pounds. Just the tire. And it was worn down I installed the same brand of tire but a different model made specifically for the goldwing’s weight .. The tire I installed weighed 6 pounds less before mounting on the wheel The improvement in suspension compliance and ride made it feel like a completely different motorcycle. It felt like it weighed 100 pounds less. When I would hit ripples. The suspension was able to recover quickly because it did not have to contend with that extra 6 pounds of weight.. The impacts with bumps was not as severe when your wheel strikes a bump. That energy goes into the shock spring.. depending on how heavy the wheel and all the components that are controlled by the spring are, that determines how fast the wheel can recover and return to the end of the spring stroke and be ready for the next impact, keeping the wheel in contact with the road surface. That’s the bottom line, how quickly can suspension recover. The energy goes into the spring, and the shock controls the spring.. I road raced motorcycles decades ago. i won 6 road racing championships, two time national champion.. I had a machine that had a single disc in the front. I thought I wanted more powerful brakes, so I added a second disc, caliper, mounting hardware, brake pads, related hoses, to my race machine.. I usually won at this track that weekend i showed up with double discs.. I went out in practice. I could see and feel that the machine was not accelerating as usual.. other riders on the same machine I competed against in the past were pulling away about 5 miles an hour which is a brisk walking pace.. in the corners, some of which had ripples, my suspension could not handle the second and third ripple while leaned over. My suspension started to chatter and I would go off-line because the suspension could not complete the compression recover cycle as quickly because of the increased unsprung weight of the disk and all the associated hardware.. I did not need 450 hp front brakes on a 260 pound machine with 59 hp.. even with a single desk I could easily walk the front wheel with a single finger.. duel disks have one advantage. They pull evenly on both fork legs and make the machine break in a straight line. But there is also a downside to the pull.. when leaned over and breaking, it pulls the wheels straight and makes the bike stand up in corners.. It was too late to remove the disc/pads/hardware/caliper that day, my heat race was was soon.. I did the heat race with the double discs.. rather than winning as usual comment I came in seventh. I was losing five seconds a lap.. at 82 mph average, that’s around 100 ft./s. That’s 500 feet per lamp behind the leader I was losing, seven laps, I want to over 3500 feet with that added unsprung weight, added flywheel which had to be accelerated, Gyro but did not like to change directions in S turns quickly,, and additional disc brake pad drag which is always present.. after that race, I removed the second disk and all the associated hardware which was around 7 pounds. On Sunday I started on the third row, and I won as usual because I eliminated that anchor Inn that extra weight my suspension could not deal with very well, and that gyroscope that did not like to Change directions quickly, and that extra flywheel that had to be accelerated.. I went on to win that race, and the championship that year. I learned about the importance of reducing unsprung weight .. years later, my two sons had an Acura RSX, and a Honda prelude.. they did all those things that young guys do to their cars, low profile wide wheels, and sound systems you could hear a block away.. I told them those wheels are going to hurt the ride, and the wider the tire, the worse the the tire is in the rain.. of course they didn’t listen, and they bought wide wheels and tires. The wheels were wide, the tires were wide and very low profile.. both of their cars road like Fred Flintstones car , Fred Flintstone had stones for tires.. it was incredible how hard those cars both hit even little bumps.. within a few months. All four of the wheels on both cars had dents in them because of the low profile tires that do not protect the rims as well as higher sidewalk tires.. aftermarket wheels do not have to meet the standards that the OEM tires have to meet. They are generally very poorly designed and overweight and made of Low quality alloys. They’re made to a price, not to a standard.. before we put the wheels on the cars. We balanced them. I have my own tire machine and balancer machine.. we had to stick an unusual amount of weights on a couple of those wheels/tires. there is an additional consideration to be made when installing wheels/tires. And usually they are high-speed rated tires. Here in Pennsylvania, USA, it is actually illegal to repair a flat tire on a tire with a high speed rating with a plug. No reputable tire store or garage will do it. So if you get a small hole in your very high speed rated tire, even though you are probably never going to go over 80 miles an hour on public streets. You have to buy a new tire if you have a speed rating of S or V or higher..No I Donely can you not repair a tire with a high speed rating, but those tires generally have a stiffer carcass, and, to have that high of a speed rating, they generally have about half the tread depth because centrifugal force causes a tire with more tread depth to distort and overheat. So, the higher the speed rating, the less tire you get for your dollar.. of course you have to do that if you are competing on the racetrack, but on public streets, you were just throwing money away to buy high speed rated tires.. to top it off, the higher the speed rating, the more expensive the tire is.. aftermarket wheels do not have the protective coating/finish that factory issue tires usually have.. they absolutely are not very salt resistant in climates that have snow in the winter where they salt the roads.. after about two years of problems with aftermarket wheels and tires that don’t last very long and ride like a rock. Both of my sons admitted that it was a mistake to put aftermarket wheels and tires on their cars.. they finally got it, and that is, the factory knows more than you do for every day driving on public roads..
These videos are great - but what would make them even better would be some description of what's happening - some description of the processes. Experiment with text subtitles and voice and see what's best. Like for example, at 2:38 - what's the powder being added to the molten metal?
I am an old hot-roder, low-rider and car loving guy. I've purchased many cusstom wheels. The Amerian Raciing Vector wheel came out about 1972 and sort of started the custom aluminum wheel fad. Years later, when American Racing came out with the three-dimensional cast aluminum wheels, their man who designed the wheels quit and went to another wheel manufacturer. The problem for American Racing was that no one else knew the wheel design software. I just installed my fourth set of Keystone Klassic wheels on my newly acquired 1973 Chevy Caprice classic convertible (triple white with whitewall tires). The first "mag wheels" were really steel (except for Porsche etc). Now aluminum wheels are standard on many vehicles.
As someone watching from the US • Watching your videos is most relaxing even at 2 x speed. Hope your customers appreciates this very important job • It’s good to see how well these workers are able to the job done in a quality way • Good to see that everyone stays safe and think about using safety equipment (gloves / goggles , etc) • Thanks so very much for posting and sharing! All the best and God Bless. 🙏❤🇺🇸
What the hell, vidro jumps to a completely different wheel near the end of it. First one looked like a stock rim for a car manufacturer then it went "custom: on us!😆
какие красивые автомобильные диски идеальный балланс красоты прочности и элегантности сделаные по современным технологиям и высочайшим качеством производство завораживает мне нравится как штука закрывается и внутри заливается сырье а после получается потрясающий диск рабочему никогда не надоест за этим наблюдать все линейки автоматизинованного производства так продуманы корейские инженеры работают на славу своей страны процесс выравнивания диск так же очень интересен робот весь в металлической струшке видимо у него тяжелая работа хендай наверное одни из самых лучших производителей дисков хорошая операторская работа по съемке видео спасибо
@@ЖужелицаСибирская согласен дороже но их можно выровнять а литые при сильном ударе могут лопнуть так как у них довольно пористая структура метала, а кованые довольно плотные по составу.
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普通のアルミホイール。鋳造工場だね、廉造品工場ではない。
その上、正規な熱処理もしてない、簡易熱処理だ。
悪いけど、品質ksんりのレベルではないね。
I've just watched a video of the manufacture of alloy wheels in a bask street factory in Pakistan using scrap aluminium with quality control none existent. The comparison is unbelievable.
Haha...so did I, the difference is amazing!
Same
I have seen the same video. That's why I am here to see the difference. I live in Pakistan, I might have to buy one for myself and now I know what not to buy.
I've watched a video of Rays engineering wheels and I thought the wheels in this video should be avoided at all costs so I dread to think what the back street wheels are like 😮
Watched the other one as well,horrendous…And the people of the world are equal…apparently
It's impressive that there are multiple wheel inspection processes. I'm glad that this company seems to understand how important a car's wheels are.
기계 설비들.. 정말 신기하네.
설계하고 설치한 기술자들 대단하네.
Ха жуда ЗУР технологий оборудования супер койил 😊 саломлар Тожикистондан!
자동차 휠 공장 돌아가는 영상은 처음 보는 것 같네요.
정말 많은 공정으로 반짝거리는 휠이 제작되는 것도 신기하지만
19:58 마지막에 휠캡 로고가 수평 맞으며 정차하는게 제일 신기합니다. ㅋㅋㅋ
Now I know how the wheels of my Tucson were produced - thanks!
18년전 대학생때 여기서 하루 용역했던 기억이.. 용광로 앞에서 휠 찍어내다 가스쪽에 땀띠가…
우 와 대단한 기업인데
촬영하시는거. 엄청 힘드셧을텐데
진짜 대단하네요. 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
The process at 2:50 is a degassing process. Nitrogen is passed through a carbon tube which is inserted into the molten Aluminium. The tube spins and the nitrogen is flushed through the Aluminium from the bottom of the crucible to the top. The nitrogen has an affinity to moisture and effectively pulls the moisture from the melt. This process reduces or stops you having porosity ( tiny holes ) in the alloy casting.
Thank you for posting this. This video is fascinating and mystifying at the same time. Do you know what is happening during the times - two, as I recall - when the wheel is shown with a copper colored wire mesh item in the wheel center? The item appears to be roughly cone shaped.
@@thardyryll If you turn the subtitles on, it does give a brief explanation of each stage. The copper cone is labelled "foreign matter filter" - presumably to catch any last-minute slag making it into the mould.
In 4:38, what is the light yellowish gray color substance sprayed to the molding's surface before it poured with the molt?
@@StrsAmbrg I think they're just blowing the mould with compressed air to remove any dust or debris. The yellowish grey colour is just its natural colour.
@@thardyryll It’s a Silicon Carbide filter. They stop rubbish and dross entering the casting. Silicon Carbide wont interfere with the drilling bits like the ceramic filters which are quite hard. The carbide filters also tend to float to the top of the melt when reused although they are most likely using new Aluminium Ingots each time when making car rims
대단하다 😊 고마워요.
제차도 잘 달리게 해줘서❤
From the melting of pieces of aluminum ingots in the furnace, through dozens of processes to the final exquisite wheels, few people participated in it, and most of the work was handed over to the robot, which is very good!
...and before this manufacturers (disks) ,how much processes for making aluminium ingots ?
Too many robots taking over the world these days, taking peoples jobs sadly
Thanks for this video, as always, well done the Engineers who design and construct these machines, it is a harsh environment and the robots do well to cope.
It is staggering to realise that a modern car production line will need thousands of these wheels every day, with "just in time " production imagine the panic when a machine breaks down.
В конце остановили так ровно, что эмблема на колесе ровно в горизонт стала.
Неужели так с первого раза получилось? Классно.👍👏
это не рф, не калашников... Это Искусство !! Театр ! Цирк ! этим можно вечно любоваться..
전쟁 폐허속 최대빈국이던 대한민국이.. 모두 불가능하다 이야기할때... 한강의 기적 그 시작에는 자동차 부품제조공장의 땀방울이 바로 대한민국 역사가 되었네요...
경부고속도로 건설할때, 고속도로 만들어 봐야, 소수 부자들이 외제차 끌고 첩 옆에 끼고 나들이 다닐때나 쓸거라고 반대하던 위인들이 있었죠. 그 둘은 한국이 전세계 최고의 자동차 생산국가 반열에 오를수 있을거라고는 꿈에도 못꾼 위인들 입니다. 그런데 지금 한국의 정치권은 그 둘의 똘마니들로 가득차 있죠.
역시 대량생산은 주물로 시작하는군요. 생산자동화가 많이 되어 놀랐습니다.
휠&타이어에 주황색 점이 왜 붙어 있나 평소 궁금했었는데 이제 이해가 됩니다.
대량생산은 저압주조 및 플로우포밍 방식을 무조건 채택합니다
최종 양품 확정이죠
저도 오늘 처음 알았네요.. 휠의 가장 가벼운 부분과 타이어의 가장 무거운 부분을 표시해서 서로 맞출려고 표시한건 줄 처음 알았습니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
타이어와 밸런스를 맞추기위하여 표시를 하지만 휠은 CNC로 가공을 하므로 밸런스는 타이어보다 훨씬 잘 나옵니다.
저 디자인을 다 받아주는 월클 제조공장 ㅎㄷㄷ
18:07 저 스티커가 합격 도장이었구나!!??
휠은 그렇다치고 저 라인 공정 기계장치들을 만든게 더 대단하다 =.=
저도 같은생각했습니다!! 기계화가 최고의 수준인듯요
그게 저희나라가 기계화산업이 우수하다는거고
100년가까이된 독3사를 50년만에 따라잡았다는 기술력을 입증한 나라이지요
그걸 두글자로 줄여서 국뽕 이라고합니다
@@iromison 선생님... 저기 기계들 거의 일제입니다
@@hideout5477 로봇은 일제고 공작기계는 현대라고 써있슴다. 로봇기술은 아직은 멀었슴다 우리나라는.. 아마 단가싸움이 안된다고 알아요.
무슨일제야 ㅋㅋㅋ대부분 국산이고 로봇같은경우 유럽이다 !!! 알고 말하자 ..😢
レイズの動画見た後に見るとレイズの凄さがよくわかる動画でした。
めっちゃわかる笑
頑張って鍛造ホイール買いたくなりますね
こんなん鋳物でも下の下
단조공정 아날로그 일본은 한가룹다😂😂
상당히 정교한 과정을 거쳐 자동차 휠이 탄생하는구나👍
wow! great contribution to Korean GDP and national employment. This implies that koreans love their country, working hard but doing out of love, with passion and excellence that is why their economy is continually blooming and its government also doing its best for the peoples' welfare. This is my dream also with the Filipinos , you Filipinos are intelligent and wonderful people hoping very soon that you can have hybrid elections without smartmagic so you can have good leaders to lead your beautiful country. True leaders should apply for govt positions not the incompetent and corrupt ones. Always remember that your inner virtues, talents, skills and elevated values are the true leaders. You can start your abundant consciousness programming thru your educational system by honing first the character of your students and the rest will follow. My good wishes to you, United Philippine Islands!
휠공장 겁나힘듬...고생하십니다...
nice to see how the wheels on my Genesis were made.
Basically the same process as the wheels on my Bentley.
I had a feeling I was looking at Hyundai wheels
Думается, что самое удивительное во всем этом, не само производство колеса, а создание самого оборудования и установок, для технологического процесса!😊
Из русского алюминия кстати делают, на этикетке видно
@@MrVerfTV российский аллюминий
главное что в россии свое производство похерено , ковки всмпо и остальные давно закрыты производства @@yasasinazrbaycan6002
Да наш я тоже заметил Руссал Деребаски@@yasasinazrbaycan6002
Зато чуть ли не первые санкции вводят су/ки. может санкции ввести на экспорт алюминия в корею!?@@MrVerfTV
Que trabalho da para produzir uma roda ....
Parabéns pelo trabalho...
It amazes me that they can get them anywhere close to being balanced.
빠져들고 보게되네ㅋ 믿고살만하겠다
Nice setup they have...all made from the same aluminium... but yet prices vary massively just by the design of them ❤
공정라인이 생각보다 진짜많았네요... 디자인 한개 당 값을 다 봐야하니...
Занимаюсь ремонтом дисков . Интересный ролик )
Шикарное производство.
순정휠도 플로포밍으로 제작하는구나.. 굿!
Well finally the whole process. Thank you for this video ! Now I know more
Looking at the stock of aluminum, it's hard to believe it was once more valuable than gold.
Soon there will be not only aluminum. This one, I see, was produced in Russia, but the sanctions now will not allow it to be freely sold. There are many more metals.
@@redRusEmperor That's why the top of the Washington Monument is aluminum -- from when it was expensive to produce because electrolysis was not then known.
2.37 Usd per kg Aluminiumum
@@adrian.dajbog *Aluminiumumniumniumnium
@@ElliHarper Before a cheap and easy way to extract and process it. It doesn't come in nuggets or veins, it's chemically bound to other minerals.
Hyundai car is popular in India But un luckily iam poor men I love you Hyundai❤👍👍💪
규모가 엄청나네요 좋은영상 잘봤습니다
년간 생산량으론 국내 2~3위정도 될거임.
Это Китай или Корея
Very impressive, I often wondered how aluminum wheels were made, great workmanship. 😊
Interessante. rodas belíssimas.belissimo vídeo 👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️
мммм, aluminium from Russia with LOVE
nonsense
Are you happy !!??
@@tomntej2316 sure ;)
Muito legal trabalhei por 18 anos em uma fábrica de rodas de liga leve.... fantástico
❤ amazing manufacturing process of video🎉
Российский алюминий превращается в Корее в диски, чтобы быть проданным нам же за большие деньги. Гениально)
У нас тоже делают диски . Слики кстати самые одни из самых прочных в мире . А есть такие же мягкие как вазовские, точнее красноярские. Но они толще . Момо например .
Есть другие варианты?
@@Freeracer83 Есть. Целый завод в Ростове.
@@I.B.K.. В чём тогда посыл исходного комментария? Весь отечественный алюминий переводить на диски, корейцам не продавать сырьё?
@@Freeracer83 перечитай ещё раз.
이거 보니 휠 바꾸고싶네요ㅠㅠ 휠만 바꿔도 차 외관이 확 이뻐지는데
if you want to improve your car performance by changing the wheels/tires, the first thing, the very first thing you must check is, do the wheels weigh less than your standard wheels. If they weigh more than your standard wheels you are only going to be hurting performance. Weight added to area of the wheels- brakes- spindles- Control arms, shock absorber, that is called unsprung weight. That’s what your suspension has to contend with while keeping your wheels in contact with the road over irregularities like potholes, bumps, ripples..
if the wheels you buy or heavier than your stock wheels, your performance is going backwards.
unsprung weight is so critical that for decades, Porsche has been using light wheels with titanium Lugnuts just to save a few ounces..
The Formula One world champion car builder Graham Chapman was once asked what does he do to make his cars so good in handling and cornering. He said that he adds lightness to his cars..
So if you’re buying heavier wheels than stock, using heavier Lugnuts than stock, and using heavier tires than stock, you are not improving performance, you are all throwing money away, and you are hurting performance..
when the wheel/tire combination weighs more than the standard wheel/tire combination, you will notice that your wheels/tires, hit potholes much harder, your suspension can’t recover as quickly as it used to getting ready for the next bump.. that extra weight being put into motion by the bump, the spring has to absorb that energy, and your shock absorber controls the spring rebound. That process takes longer the heavier the wheel is..
there’s one other thing to consider when you’re thinking about buying aftermarket wheels.. those wheels are not nearly as durable as stock wheels 99% of the time..They dent very easily..
just look at a Bugatti Veyron set of wheels/tires. To have a new set of tires installed. The owner of the Veyron hast to send the wheels back to Italy. And the price of a new set of tires not including wheels was $40,000..
formula One wheels for the Formula One cars, are not used a second time. They are so barely engineered that they cannot survive the stress of having tires installed, removed, and installed a second time. They’re only good once..
I thought Bugatti was based in France.What you have written here make sense for formula one cars not your average car.I do agree with you based on physics but when there are other factors effecting all said it becomes irrelevant a few ounces here and there.The main variant is load factor of number of passengers and other loads,luggage carried which has more influence on how the car behaves under those conditions.On the other hand we all know every bit of extra weight carried will use more fuel and effect suspension and brake performance but won't be noticeable as such as in your comment.
@@mehmettemel8725
you were right, the Bugatti is made in France as are the Michelin tires that come from the factory on that car.
I remember watching one of the television car auctions is where I heard that a set of tires cost $40,000 and you must send the wheels back to the factory to have them installed. The announcer that said that on the television auction said Italy was where the wheels had to be sent. But I think you are right, it’s probably France.. I don’t usually remember little trivial things like that, but I thought it was remarkable that you actually have to send the wheels back to the factory to have new tires installed. I wonder how long that takes. At least a week..
The main factor is not how much of a load you were carrying. Absolutely not. The main factor is unsprung weight. Not sprung weight.
unsprung weight is the weight of your wheel/tire/Lugnuts/spindle/control arms, all of those things that your suspension has to deal with in trying to keep your tires in contact with the road..That’s why I Porsche for example uses titanium lug nuts to save just a few ounces per wheel..
formula one is the extreme example, but the same principles apply and always will..
example
I changed tires on my motorcycle/street bike. A Goldwing
The used worn tires I removed, the rear tire weighed 25 pounds. Just the tire. And it was worn down
I installed the same brand of tire but a different model made specifically for the goldwing’s weight .. The tire I installed weighed 6 pounds less before mounting on the wheel
The improvement in suspension compliance and ride made it feel like a completely different motorcycle. It felt like it weighed 100 pounds less. When I would hit ripples. The suspension was able to recover quickly because it did not have to contend with that extra 6 pounds of weight.. The impacts with bumps was not as severe
when your wheel strikes a bump. That energy goes into the shock spring.. depending on how heavy the wheel and all the components that are controlled by the spring are, that determines how fast the wheel can recover and return to the end of the spring stroke and be ready for the next impact, keeping the wheel in contact with the road surface. That’s the bottom line, how quickly can suspension recover. The energy goes into the spring, and the shock controls the spring..
I road raced motorcycles decades ago. i won 6 road racing championships, two time national champion..
I had a machine that had a single disc in the front. I thought I wanted more powerful brakes, so I added a second disc, caliper, mounting hardware, brake pads, related hoses, to my race machine..
I usually won at this track that weekend i showed up with double discs..
I went out in practice.
I could see and feel that the machine was not accelerating as usual.. other riders on the same machine I competed against in the past were pulling away about 5 miles an hour which is a brisk walking pace..
in the corners, some of which had ripples, my suspension could not handle the second and third ripple while leaned over. My suspension started to chatter and I would go off-line because the suspension could not complete the compression recover cycle as quickly because of the increased unsprung weight of the disk and all the associated hardware..
I did not need 450 hp front brakes on a 260 pound machine with 59 hp.. even with a single desk I could easily walk the front wheel with a single finger..
duel disks have one advantage. They pull evenly on both fork legs and make the machine break in a straight line. But there is also a downside to the pull.. when leaned over and breaking, it pulls the wheels straight and makes the bike stand up in corners..
It was too late to remove the disc/pads/hardware/caliper that day, my heat race was was soon..
I did the heat race with the double discs.. rather than winning as usual comment I came in seventh. I was losing five seconds a lap.. at 82 mph average, that’s around 100 ft./s. That’s 500 feet per lamp behind the leader I was losing, seven laps, I want to over 3500 feet with that added unsprung weight, added flywheel which had to be accelerated, Gyro but did not like to change directions in S turns quickly,, and additional disc brake pad drag which is always present..
after that race, I removed the second disk and all the associated hardware which was around 7 pounds. On Sunday I started on the third row, and I won as usual because I eliminated that anchor Inn that extra weight my suspension could not deal with very well, and that gyroscope that did not like to Change directions quickly, and that extra flywheel that had to be accelerated..
I went on to win that race, and the championship that year. I learned about the importance of reducing unsprung weight ..
years later, my two sons had an Acura RSX, and a Honda prelude..
they did all those things that young guys do to their cars, low profile wide wheels, and sound systems you could hear a block away..
I told them those wheels are going to hurt the ride, and the wider the tire, the worse the the tire is in the rain..
of course they didn’t listen, and they bought wide wheels and tires. The wheels were wide, the tires were wide and very low profile..
both of their cars road like Fred Flintstones car , Fred Flintstone had stones for tires.. it was incredible how hard those cars both hit even little bumps..
within a few months. All four of the wheels on both cars had dents in them because of the low profile tires that do not protect the rims as well as higher sidewalk tires..
aftermarket wheels do not have to meet the standards that the OEM tires have to meet. They are generally very poorly designed and overweight and made of Low quality alloys. They’re made to a price, not to a standard..
before we put the wheels on the cars. We balanced them. I have my own tire machine and balancer machine.. we had to stick an unusual amount of weights on a couple of those wheels/tires.
there is an additional consideration to be made when installing wheels/tires. And usually they are high-speed rated tires. Here in Pennsylvania, USA, it is actually illegal to repair a flat tire on a tire with a high speed rating with a plug. No reputable tire store or garage will do it. So if you get a small hole in your very high speed rated tire, even though you are probably never going to go over 80 miles an hour on public streets. You have to buy a new tire if you have a speed rating of S or V or higher..No I Donely can you not repair a tire with a high speed rating, but those tires generally have a stiffer carcass, and, to have that high of a speed rating, they generally have about half the tread depth because centrifugal force causes a tire with more tread depth to distort and overheat. So, the higher the speed rating, the less tire you get for your dollar..
of course you have to do that if you are competing on the racetrack, but on public streets, you were just throwing money away to buy high speed rated tires.. to top it off, the higher the speed rating, the more expensive the tire is..
aftermarket wheels do not have the protective coating/finish that factory issue tires usually have.. they absolutely are not very salt resistant in climates that have snow in the winter where they salt the roads..
after about two years of problems with aftermarket wheels and tires that don’t last very long and ride like a rock. Both of my sons admitted that it was a mistake to put aftermarket wheels and tires on their cars.. they finally got it, and that is, the factory knows more than you do for every day driving on public roads..
@@Jodyrides Wow amazing! Thanks for such interesting and useful information, I was absorbed reading your comment. You are really good at this topic.
Great comments!!! We really appreciate them 👏👏👏👏
넉놓고 봤네요 멋지고 신기해요
These videos are great - but what would make them even better would be some description of what's happening - some description of the processes. Experiment with text subtitles and voice and see what's best. Like for example, at 2:38 - what's the powder being added to the molten metal?
Beautiful and neat work But a note 😊There is a lot of aluminum leftover after making the wheel thanks for the efforts 🎉
재활용 업체에서 회수하여 다시 원재료로 만듭니다
قمة التصنيع والتجميل وإنتاج الرائع ❤
Got to say, this is awesome! They look alot like the wheels found on the Audi rs6 avant
I am an old hot-roder, low-rider and car loving guy. I've purchased many cusstom wheels. The Amerian Raciing Vector wheel came
out about 1972 and sort of started the custom aluminum wheel fad. Years later, when American Racing came out with the three-dimensional cast aluminum wheels, their man who designed the wheels quit and went to another wheel manufacturer. The problem for American Racing was that no one else knew the wheel design software. I just installed my fourth set of Keystone
Klassic wheels on my newly acquired 1973 Chevy Caprice classic convertible (triple white with whitewall tires). The first "mag wheels" were really steel (except for Porsche etc). Now aluminum wheels are standard on many vehicles.
A Caprice Classic? Way to go man!
My Dad traded in his 67 Dodge Monaco for a 73 White Caprice Classic with vinyl roof. The Good Old Days.
Hyundai rims designs are the best in the business. Great
Impressive but I still like the old Cragar rims 😊
👋 👍 🙃 🥰 Greetings from Tanglefoot, Texas, USA!
This foundry is giving me Terminator 2 vibes. 💀
өкінішті өте ақырын жұмыстарыңыз жапонядан ұйреніу керек
It's a beautifully designed wheel, but I want you to handle it more carefully because it's a product. It's also because the wheels are warped.
And thats how they ROLL folks !! 😊😊
Excelente o processo de fabricação dessas rodas, muito TOP 👏👏👏👏🤝❤🙏
As someone watching from the US
• Watching your videos is most relaxing even at 2 x speed. Hope your customers appreciates this very important job
• It’s good to see how well these workers are able to the job done in a quality way
• Good to see that everyone stays safe and think about using safety equipment (gloves / goggles , etc)
• Thanks so very much for posting and sharing!
All the best and God Bless. 🙏❤🇺🇸
Ofcourse they're up to standards. South Korea is no 3rd world country. It's a rich highly developed industrial might!!
I wonder how many workers in this factory used to say "they'll never replace my task with a robot"
Especially the 'ball dropper in the hole operative'
우아... 카메라로 찍고 있는데도 이어폰을 끼고 있네 ㄷㄷ
노조의 힘이 쎈 회사인가 보네요 부럽네요 ㅠㅠ
안전모도 안 씀 ㅋㅋ
현대 계열 성우 그룹사.
20여년전 주조기 폭파 사고로 사망 사고가 있었기도 했지요.
현대차 아니면 납품 차량도 회사내에 못들어오게 했던 안좋은 기억도 있네.
주야 12시간을 저리 서서 일해봐라 .기계.프레스 소음에 정신이 미칠지경이다 음악이라도 들어야 졸지 않는다.
@@한국-i8y 그건 이해하는데 그래도 촬영하고 있으면 사측에서 그날 만큼은 이어폰 사용하지 말라고 하지 않음?
사측 말 안듣고 촬영하든 말든 이어폰 끼고 일하는건 노조가 힘이 쎄다는 거죠
@ymgi2000저기 생산쪽은 사내하청이 많아서 노조랑 상관없음.
И побегут эти идеальные колёса по распрекрасным российским дорогам... А если серьёзно автоматизация на высоте. Настоящий современный завод!
а нам рассказывают : " зарплаты у вас маленькие потому , что низкая производительность труда ..."
@@ИгорьКудинов-з2ы что не так?
That was really relaxing to watch
Thanks for this video. Clearly explained the production process of the car hub!
좋아요 짱이야 최고
휠 생산 공정은 처음 보네요~ 근로자 분들 화이팅 입니다. 무게가 있어 일하시는데 팔목 아프시겠네요.
보다시피 대부분 컨베이어화 되어있어서 검사나 몇가지공정빼곤 휠을 들을 일이없읍니다 영상에서도 그래보이지않나여.
컨베어 ,로보트 다 하는데 ㅎㅎ@@후룰루룰-o7r
헐 대박 힐을 이렇게 만드는구나... 믿고 살수있겠네요!!
휠
Hardly any humans required. Quite amazing
I love how see ,it my future
우리나라 기술력은 세계 어디에 내놔도 뒤지지 않네요
What the hell, vidro jumps to a completely different wheel near the end of it. First one looked like a stock rim for a car manufacturer then it went "custom: on us!😆
Amazing!😲😲😲😲😲👍👍👍👍👍
😂el q compay ese trabajo k realiza esa maquinaria esta a otro nivel miera q t l sigo😂😊
フォークリフトの操作が上手すぎる😮
Thank you for it , it's very enjoyable to watch and I am very grateful
Todo lo que hay atrás de la fabricación de un aro es impresionante....
This video is so satisfying COOL that it's not even funny. To heck with a therapist's just watch the video
성우오토모티브구나
충주의 아오지탄광..
여기서 알바했었는데 빡셈
Tem cupom dourados pra visitar a fabrica não, igual a fabrica de chocolate kkk ❤
YG on the backstage in the last scenes - million$ CNC tool maker, met them:)
와 진짜 신기하네요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
고생이 많습니다
다들 건겅 하시게유^^
현대는 주조 휠을 쓰죠.. 디자인 멋지고 가볍죠.. 근데 내구성은 ㅎㅎ
Great service car wheel manufacturers
역시 강한 재질의 명쾌한 알미늄합금소리.좋은데요.
짝퉁 대만산 등등 보다 한국산 최곱니다^^♡
Some of those rims look like the ones we had on that Pontiac Bonneville we once owned...
자동차 휠이 비싼 이유를 설명 해주는 영상.
У вас в Корее диски тоже дорого стоит ???
거의 다 로봇 기계 공정이네 와...
wow amazing bro...
automatización industrial
Legal roda liga na fábrica uma roda de carro nascer através de uma processo bastante elaborado
No matter raw material comes from where, but it's make human comfort life😆 ,( And super pollution?) Very interesting video👌🙏.
ใช้งานโหดมาก เครื่องจักร เศษผงต่างๆๆ
all the way to seeing them on a vehicle. Nice video.
Do you need to purchase coating line equipment?😊
Great looking rims!!!
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
какие красивые автомобильные диски
идеальный балланс красоты прочности и элегантности
сделаные по современным технологиям и высочайшим качеством
производство завораживает
мне нравится как штука закрывается и внутри заливается сырье а после получается потрясающий диск
рабочему никогда не надоест за этим наблюдать
все линейки автоматизинованного производства так продуманы
корейские инженеры работают на славу своей страны
процесс выравнивания диск так же очень интересен
робот весь в металлической струшке видимо у него тяжелая работа
хендай наверное одни из самых лучших производителей дисков
хорошая операторская работа по съемке видео спасибо
Посмотри производство Российских кованых дисков.
кованные диски крепче чем литьё
@@akulablek
И легче и дороже...
@@ЖужелицаСибирская согласен дороже но их можно выровнять а литые при сильном ударе могут лопнуть так как у них довольно пористая структура метала, а кованые довольно плотные по составу.
Wow-the last drone shot was incredible; not hard to believe that they manufacture that many wheels each year.
Hyundai build over million car every year in korea only, so they need 4 million of them minimum
Well done . Informative 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing. Be safe🇨🇦
Love the style of wheels this factory make
Espectacular muy interesante el video 👍 👌 👏