Do you have difficulty being a decent human? It's common knowledge that people learn better/easier in different ways. Some by reading, some by doing, some by watching or a combination of those. If you don't know someone, you have absolutely NO idea if they have difficulties with something or what their situation is. Your seven word question paints a picture of you that is worth a thousand words. Hopefully you, nor anyone close to you, ever has a child with a learning disability, or any disability for that matter. You would not be the right person to have in their life. Enjoy your day.
JP's Silent Captured system is an awesome development. I would think it would be even better with a flat spring, instead of a round spring. But that's why they're making the products and the money that goes with them, and I'm watching their videos! It's great that they produce this video for their product.
I really love this product. It puts the BCG into battery perfectly and reliably every time! So far I have 3 of these. One on both of the SBRs and one on the LRT 308. I needed to swap the spring on the 308, as it locked up the action after each round, but after that it worked flawlessly.
I have a custom setup using this AND the Black Rifle Arms BCG with their buffer tech. I had to mod the buffer on the BCG to accept the rod od the spring system but it was worth itm the action is ridiculously smooth!
@@atranimecs I ended up having to ditch them all. The captured spring in the sbr wouldn't allow reliable feeding regardless of the spring combo. I went back to an enhanced buffer spring and h2 buffer and have been happier since.
@@HO123virus Kinda confusing, you sing it praises in your first comment then add a comment saying you had problems in the SBR? I know people run these in SBR setups so I am curious about your troubleshooting process. Additionally you claim that you had one in a 308 build.
@@HO123virus how long into using them did you notice they weren’t working out? Were you using the Gen 2 Heavy H2 for the sbr’s? Just curious since I was planning on getting one for a 300BLK with 8.7” barrel. Lots of people seem to love them, but I’d rather not spend so much just to have issues.
Out of all the videos I’ve watched about installing this buffer spring, none of them said anything about needing the armorer wrench and taking the nut loose in order to put the new one in
Just purchased Gun model AR-10 DPMS LR-308, Heavy H2 Buffer Version with silent captured spring spacer. Also listed as Gen 2 silent captured buffer spring system for my PSA AR 10 in .308. Loctite 243 is what came with the kit.
@@gemcutter187 I have two and both are running great. The only thing that they don't do well is locking back on the last round. But that's a tuning thing
How long do these last? How many rounds are they good for before they wear out? Can't find information on that anywhere. Have you considered using a Chrome silicon spring for this to extend its life?
Does the buffer retainer plug interfere with it's operation? Because I'd rather leave it in! Just bought one, arrived the other day. Going to install it soon.
A standard buffer retainer plunger is really inconvenient when you're installing or removing the SCS as it catches easily. We came out with a different design the alleviates that problem, which is on our website: www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPSCS-BRP
@@JPRifles I installed it and left the retaining plug in. You're right, it was slightly difficult. But I just used a stiff knife blade to push down on it, and got the spring capture system in behind it. Seems like a perfect fit.
I removed the retaining pin and now is I tilt the lower in any direction other than stright up the buffer starts to come out?! Why doesn’t it sit in place?!
Will there be any operating issues if you leave the buffer and spring on I’ve seen a few videos where people leave it on? Just curious if anyone has come across this As JP suggests removal of said items Thanks y’all!
Late reply, but it they have a flow chart up on their website now. If you're going to run a 300blk suppressed, they recommend the equivalent of an H2 buffer weight, which would be one stainless weight and two tungsten weights. But of course, fine tuning for your specific application may be required and such.
Unique to individual setup. If you want to tweak as much as possible you can buy a variable spring kit + install an adjustable gas block. If money is of no concern you can get their variable sized weights as well. general guidelines: h/h1 = mid length h2 = carbine h3 = pistol Higher spring rate/tension and/or more buffee weight as the gas length is shortened. (H2 is a good start for gas piston systems).
my new jp capture sping is stuck partially by the buffer retaining bin. any advice on how to remove it now. I've seen videos of the jps going in easly with the pin in place but mine is stuck at the last gap at the front.
Only certain buffer tubes will require a shim (which is now included with the SCS). You shouldn't need to modify the spacer unless you have an oddball buffer tube.
@@JPRifles well I appreciate the reply JP. Still a little steep of a price. If you guys could figure out how to bring the price point down you’ed sell a ton of those.
Might I respectfully suggest you change the verbiage of both your video and instruction sheet from "we recommend removing the buffer retainer and plunger before proceeding" to "you must remove the buffer retainer and plunger before proceeding." Once you get the Silent Capture Spring installed, nothing short of a miracle will allow you to get it out again without potentially damaging the assembly and/or the rubber O-rings as long as that plunger is sticking up! However, if the annoying "boooinnng" after each shot is gone, it will have all been worth it!
Not only is the SCS quieter but it also removes drag from the buffer system. You also have a wide range of adjustability with overall buffer mass as well as spring weights so you can tune the system to your rifle and the ammo you are running to get the best possible function and reliability.
It is an ACE-ARFX-QD stock on a mil-spec rifle length buffer tube. Both components are available on our website. ACE-ARFX-QD: jprifles.com/buy.php?item=ACE-ARFX-QD RPBT-R: jprifles.com/buy.php?item=RPBT-R
Has anyone out there changed out the spring on their JPSCS for a lighter spring on a Sig 516? Mine won't lock back on the last round, and I am getting some light strikes that don't go off while shooting, but I can see where the firing pen hit the primer. If so, what color spring did you go with?
They sell the pack of diff tension springs that are color coded. You’d need to test each with your particular setup. But deductive reasoning should help in which direction to go.
I have a simple question. Why do you suggest taking out the buffer retainer, plunger and plunger spring? Just because the JP silent capture spring doesn't need it, it makes no sense to immediately remove it, as it harms nothing leaving it in, weighs less than a dime. I'm a retired US Army soldier, but for people doing DIY upgrades with no experience, for non ground up rifle builds, telling them to remove it on the onset of putting the JP system in, may not be wise, because if they have function issues with this JP system and their buffer plunger spring flies away in taking it out, the rifle is a paperweight, until they find the spring or buy a new one. Once JP's system functions perfectly, IMHO, that would be the time to remove the buffer retainer and plunger spring. My 1st experience with the JP system I had one rifle that wouldn't lock back. Was a simple fix, but for noobs it might not be so simple.
The standard buffer retainer catches in many of the features of the SCS, so it's really inconvenient to insert and remove. That's the main reason. This video is dated at this point since we've come out with an alternate design buffer retainer that alleviates this problem.
Which Spring is default on a JPSCS? Since my AR doesnt lock open with the JPSCS i want to order the Spring kit, but i don't know which Spring i should start with? Is the "uncolored" spring the same one as which the JPSCS is delivered with?
inRangeTV (or forgotten weapons....cant remember) did a vidoe where to make their CETME-Ls work, they had to use a fired label case to add some spring tension.... they also just made a "what would stoner do" video where they approve of this buffer.....after they tested it with MANY shooting matches and 1000s of rounds most people dont have washers laying around......and even fewer know where to get them (car parts or hardware store) so a quarter is something EVERYONE has, and its a perfect fit for the tube plus..... you could buy some material like the white spacer that is included..... and make your own, longer, spacer AKA.... if you dont like the quarter idea..... you can make your own spacer that is better (but it will cost a lot more than 25 cents, and work EXACTLY the same) i dont even own an ar15..... so i have no horse in this race but you better not do any car mechanic work.... if you cant handle making your own spacer, or using a cheap and JUST AS effective "hot fix"..... then how are you ever going to get bearing clearance right? "piston rings should not need to be filed to the correct ring gap.....even though the correct gap will vary depending on the configuration of the engine (turbo = more gap), how worn the bore is, and about 20 different variables..... they should all be drop in replacements......as i have no idea what tolerance variations are!"
You know what for the price that it cost it’s to much doing this and doing that what if you don’t have a vise or a torch or you not a person who like to do all this things I like a drop in part I also know sometimes you have to do a little fitting here and there but I like to stay away from alll of that!!🇺🇸
This product would be so much better if we didn't have to go through all these steps to get a good quality finish. Plenty of room for improvement and for competitors to eat your lunch.
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Gotta say. Using a quarter as a spacer is something I never knew I wanted. Washington will always be with me haha
For what it's worth, this video is a little dated now. Any SCS now comes with a custom spacer in the package.
Exactly what I needed. I wish every manufacturer did this. Thank you.
Do you have difficulty reading a manual?
Do you have difficulty being a decent human? It's common knowledge that people learn better/easier in different ways. Some by reading, some by doing, some by watching or a combination of those. If you don't know someone, you have absolutely NO idea if they have difficulties with something or what their situation is. Your seven word question paints a picture of you that is worth a thousand words. Hopefully you, nor anyone close to you, ever has a child with a learning disability, or any disability for that matter. You would not be the right person to have in their life. Enjoy your day.
JP's Silent Captured system is an awesome development. I would think it would be even better with a flat spring, instead of a round spring. But that's why they're making the products and the money that goes with them, and I'm watching their videos! It's great that they produce this video for their product.
Well done video. Wish more companies took the time to produce quality videos. Hope I didn't hurt any feelings.
"Apply a small amount of Loctite 263..."
*Applies half a bottle to tiny screw*
Yeah, we need to talk about application amounts.
This is also the guy that puts ketchup on your hotdog when you ask for a little...
I really love this product. It puts the BCG into battery perfectly and reliably every time! So far I have 3 of these. One on both of the SBRs and one on the LRT 308. I needed to swap the spring on the 308, as it locked up the action after each round, but after that it worked flawlessly.
I have a custom setup using this AND the Black Rifle Arms BCG with their buffer tech. I had to mod the buffer on the BCG to accept the rod od the spring system but it was worth itm the action is ridiculously smooth!
@@atranimecs I ended up having to ditch them all. The captured spring in the sbr wouldn't allow reliable feeding regardless of the spring combo. I went back to an enhanced buffer spring and h2 buffer and have been happier since.
@@HO123virus Kinda confusing, you sing it praises in your first comment then add a comment saying you had problems in the SBR?
I know people run these in SBR setups so I am curious about your troubleshooting process. Additionally you claim that you had one in a 308 build.
@@Osprey1994 Yeah, first comment was made 7 years ago. Second comment was made 5 months ago. Things change. Not that confusing really.
@@HO123virus how long into using them did you notice they weren’t working out? Were you using the Gen 2 Heavy H2 for the sbr’s? Just curious since I was planning on getting one for a 300BLK with 8.7” barrel.
Lots of people seem to love them, but I’d rather not spend so much just to have issues.
you guys should do vids on all products, easy way to help sell products
Out of all the videos I’ve watched about installing this buffer spring, none of them said anything about needing the armorer wrench and taking the nut loose in order to put the new one in
Just purchased Gun model AR-10 DPMS LR-308, Heavy H2 Buffer Version with silent captured spring spacer. Also listed as Gen 2 silent captured buffer spring system for my PSA AR 10 in .308. Loctite 243 is what came with the kit.
Look at how old the video is.
Mine works great! I won't run a rifle without one. It runs smooth like a bolt gun and no running a spoon on a chain link fence sound.
@COLT LE6920 Mine is ac6being delivered today, can't wait to test it out
6 years... still good?
@@gemcutter187 I have two and both are running great. The only thing that they don't do well is locking back on the last round. But that's a tuning thing
If you don't remove the buffer retainer, will it effect it's function at all during firing?
No
How long do these last? How many rounds are they good for before they wear out? Can't find information on that anywhere. Have you considered using a Chrome silicon spring for this to extend its life?
i think your mag springs and other stuff, like hammer spring, will wear out quicker.....
william terry yea, that in no way, answers the question.
If you choose so can you leave the buffer spring & detent in place ?
Does the buffer retainer plug interfere with it's operation? Because I'd rather leave it in! Just bought one, arrived the other day. Going to install it soon.
A standard buffer retainer plunger is really inconvenient when you're installing or removing the SCS as it catches easily. We came out with a different design the alleviates that problem, which is on our website: www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPSCS-BRP
@@JPRifles I installed it and left the retaining plug in. You're right, it was slightly difficult. But I just used a stiff knife blade to push down on it, and got the spring capture system in behind it. Seems like a perfect fit.
If I don’t have the spacer. Would you recommend the quarter to this day?
Quarter did the trick thanks cant wait too shoot it.
I removed the retaining pin and now is I tilt the lower in any direction other than stright up the buffer starts to come out?! Why doesn’t it sit in place?!
Will there be any operating issues if you leave the buffer and spring on
I’ve seen a few videos where people leave it on?
Just curious if anyone has come across this
As JP suggests removal of said items
Thanks y’all!
Is their a weight that will work with 300 blk in both super and sub with or with out a suppressor
Late reply, but it they have a flow chart up on their website now.
If you're going to run a 300blk suppressed, they recommend the equivalent of an H2 buffer weight, which would be one stainless weight and two tungsten weights. But of course, fine tuning for your specific application may be required and such.
There*
“Without” is one word.
@@TheTeddyChoice thank u grammar 👮♀️
ACE stock and JP buffer the best combo
Any advise on tuning/picking the correct spring?
Unique to individual setup. If you want to tweak as much as possible you can buy a variable spring kit + install an adjustable gas block. If money is of no concern you can get their variable sized weights as well.
general guidelines:
h/h1 = mid length
h2 = carbine
h3 = pistol
Higher spring rate/tension and/or more buffee weight as the gas length is shortened. (H2 is a good start for gas piston systems).
Do you recommend applying thread locker to both top & bottom screws?
There is never a need to remove the bottom/back screw on the SCS. If you did remove it, you would want to use loc-tite when you reinstall it.
I have JP15 rifle 18” with ace stock. If i want to change the stock. Should i use milspec or consumer spec stock? Thankyou
my new jp capture sping is stuck partially by the buffer retaining bin. any advice on how to remove it now. I've seen videos of the jps going in easly with the pin in place but mine is stuck at the last gap at the front.
Push down
So your telling me I spend 140 dollars on a spring, than I need to add 25c, than I need to sand the rifle length but stock adapter for proper fit?
Only certain buffer tubes will require a shim (which is now included with the SCS). You shouldn't need to modify the spacer unless you have an oddball buffer tube.
@@JPRifles well I appreciate the reply JP. Still a little steep of a price. If you guys could figure out how to bring the price point down you’ed sell a ton of those.
@@Pays2Win They already do sell a ton of them lol
@@Pays2Win can't be cheap on quality my guy!!
@@themagnificent9296 there is truth to that for sure….times are tight tho
Might I respectfully suggest you change the verbiage of both your video and instruction sheet from "we recommend removing the buffer retainer and plunger before proceeding" to "you must remove the buffer retainer and plunger before proceeding." Once you get the Silent Capture Spring installed, nothing short of a miracle will allow you to get it out again without potentially damaging the assembly and/or the rubber O-rings as long as that plunger is sticking up! However, if the annoying "boooinnng" after each shot is gone, it will have all been worth it!
What does this product do for your gun? Make the buffer tube quieter? On something that produces 140db suppressed?
Not only is the SCS quieter but it also removes drag from the buffer system. You also have a wide range of adjustability with overall buffer mass as well as spring weights so you can tune the system to your rifle and the ammo you are running to get the best possible function and reliability.
I still hear the scs when the rifle is shaken, I installed it just like the video showed (aside from the spacer as I don't need it)
You ever fix it ?
@@carlosandresh__ Yeah I figured out my issue after I left the comment lol
@@squaretread9715 what did you do. I’m having the same issue
@@carlosandresh__ Take it back out and tighten the nut one full turn, that worked for me
What stock/ buffer tube are shown in the video?
It is an ACE-ARFX-QD stock on a mil-spec rifle length buffer tube. Both components are available on our website.
ACE-ARFX-QD: jprifles.com/buy.php?item=ACE-ARFX-QD
RPBT-R: jprifles.com/buy.php?item=RPBT-R
A2 type. I am not sure this item will work on AR15 buffer tubes platform, Furthermore, I am not sure it work on current retro fit systems as well.
Video says to use a quarter as a shim to take up space... but also includes a shim in the box...
The video came out 8 years ago.
@@BLUELEADER78 my comment was 9 months ago…
@@Dynamo55b, and?
Has anyone out there changed out the spring on their JPSCS for a lighter spring on a Sig 516? Mine won't lock back on the last round, and I am getting some light strikes that don't go off while shooting, but I can see where the firing pen hit the primer. If so, what color spring did you go with?
They sell the pack of diff tension springs that are color coded. You’d need to test each with your particular setup. But deductive reasoning should help in which direction to go.
Makes me feel like the G braided spring and buff was a good choice.
How so? Did it work better than this product?
What about the keeper for the spring?
Will the standard spring work well with a carbine length gas system?
Next purchase . ✅
Good choice.
Will this spring work with a Sylvian Arms Folding Adapter?
It does not.
@@JPRifles That's a shame, I really like the product.
Do you have one that will work for the S&W M&P 10?
Do you have to remove the buffer retainer? Seems like it really isn't drop in if you have to remove parts.
You don't have to remove the buffer retainer, most people do since it's no longer needed.
Would this work with a Dead Foot Arms folding stock adaptor?
Unfortunately not.
This works for with the law tactical folder right
We just released a specific line of Silent Captured Spring systems to work with the LAW tactical folding stock adapter.
JPRifles and I’m going home from work to install it in 30 mins
Does this work in PISTON rifles or just DI?
Looks like JP sells buff retainer pin for their system for $12, Why can't they include it in their SCS ?
Not everyone wants the retainer in their rifles since its not required with the SCS
Want one
my spacer is missing in my kit.
Then use two quarters!
What stock is that?
That would be an "ACE AR15 Skeleton stock".
I have a simple question. Why do you suggest taking out the buffer retainer, plunger and plunger spring? Just because the JP silent capture spring doesn't need it, it makes no sense to immediately remove it, as it harms nothing leaving it in, weighs less than a dime.
I'm a retired US Army soldier, but for people doing DIY upgrades with no experience, for non ground up rifle builds, telling them to remove it on the onset of putting the JP system in, may not be wise, because if they have function issues with this JP system and their buffer plunger spring flies away in taking it out, the rifle is a paperweight, until they find the spring or buy a new one. Once JP's system functions perfectly, IMHO, that would be the time to remove the buffer retainer and plunger spring. My 1st experience with the JP system I had one rifle that wouldn't lock back. Was a simple fix, but for noobs it might not be so simple.
The standard buffer retainer catches in many of the features of the SCS, so it's really inconvenient to insert and remove. That's the main reason. This video is dated at this point since we've come out with an alternate design buffer retainer that alleviates this problem.
How often should you replace your spring on the SCS?
Hasn't come up, honestly. The o-rings and potentially the bumper are the real wear components in the system.
@@JPRifles I chose the SCS system for my first build. Cant wait to get to the range! Thanks for the response.
What is the overall length of the 9mm buffer spring? Trying to see if it is compatible with the MVB ARC stock
Seems to much hassle for a simple spring and buffer. It’s a good concept but it should be simpler and maintenance free.
I have to run 2 quarters and one nickel behind mine to get rid of the slack when using the Strike Industries buffer tube I have
Which Spring is default on a JPSCS? Since my AR doesnt lock open with the JPSCS i want to order the Spring kit, but i don't know which Spring i should start with? Is the "uncolored" spring the same one as which the JPSCS is delivered with?
+JPRifles I just sent you an email with more precise information and photos
So what do you do if you’re a moron and left the detent in and now it’s locked your SCS in place…not fully into the tube?
Contact Tech@jprifles.com
“Apply a small amount of thread locker” and then proceeds to put as much on as the threads will hold.
I want a micro Honey Badger sized Silent Captured Spring
They make one for the maxim defense CQB stock/brace. Its a little shorter than carbine length
Now that this cost $0.25 more to close the gap I can't afford this component now😢
Does anyone else see Arabic subtitles on this or other videos?
This is such complicated and expensive fix for a NON issue
Lost me at the quarter... I think I'll stick with the original
inRangeTV (or forgotten weapons....cant remember) did a vidoe where to make their CETME-Ls work, they had to use a fired label case to add some spring tension....
they also just made a "what would stoner do" video where they approve of this buffer.....after they tested it with MANY shooting matches and 1000s of rounds
most people dont have washers laying around......and even fewer know where to get them (car parts or hardware store)
so a quarter is something EVERYONE has, and its a perfect fit for the tube
plus..... you could buy some material like the white spacer that is included..... and make your own, longer, spacer
AKA.... if you dont like the quarter idea..... you can make your own spacer that is better (but it will cost a lot more than 25 cents, and work EXACTLY the same)
i dont even own an ar15..... so i have no horse in this race
but you better not do any car mechanic work.... if you cant handle making your own spacer, or using a cheap and JUST AS effective "hot fix".....
then how are you ever going to get bearing clearance right?
"piston rings should not need to be filed to the correct ring gap.....even though the correct gap will vary depending on the configuration of the engine (turbo = more gap), how worn the bore is, and about 20 different variables..... they should all be drop in replacements......as i have no idea what tolerance variations are!"
Way too much work for a drop in part
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You know what for the price that it cost it’s to much doing this and doing that what if you don’t have a vise or a torch or you not a person who like to do all this things I like a drop in part I also know sometimes you have to do a little fitting here and there but I like to stay away from alll of that!!🇺🇸
Looks like crap to me, quarters for spacers and grinding it down. Lol
Too bad it's so expensive.
quality stuff tends to be expensive
This product would be so much better if we didn't have to go through all these steps to get a good quality finish. Plenty of room for improvement and for competitors to eat your lunch.
Too much work
There’s some really mechanically challenged people on here, they should have never taken shop class out of the schools