Great review! Clear explanation how to ride this bike. Thank you. Bought one myself! Arrived yesterday, assembling was easy and made my first kilometers. I am already enthusiastic.
@@djsuperkph I have made more than 700 km now. Even off road and going up hill there is no direct need to ride it standing. It is possible, but you need to consider that this is not a mountainbike.
Excellent review Brian. The shots of you riding over a curb was an excellent way to demonstrate the suspension. This model, it seems to me, is more of an exercise machine than one ridden for fun or grocery getting. Lectric also has a sale on and includes a few premium accessories for $949 as of this date.
Thanks. I wouldn't consider it an exercise machine. Like any ebike you can pedal as little or as much as you want. If you ignore the regen feature, it's a powerful eBike on pedal assist or throttle.
Exercise machine? How did you get that idea? I took my engwe on a mountain bike course and had a great time. I've taken it on plenty of hiking trails and it was excellent. I've ridden it on sandy beaches, through creeks, and over river rocks. The combination of fat tires and full suspension is terrific. It handles getting groceries with aplomb. At many campgrounds, I find off road shortcuts to and from the store that are fun. The Lectric bikes do not have full suspension and I would not want a hard tail for grocery getting, or off roading. The one thing I like about the Lectric bikes is that I think they use 3" fat tires instead of the 4". I would be happier with lighter tires and a thinner bike.
@@johntaves487 The minute the battery or electronics cut out on a ride, you have to pedal home on the equivalent of a exercise bike since this thing's motor has drag you have to overcome, something a non-regen bike wouldn't penalize you with. Add the extra weight and dual suspension making pedaling forces less efficient into forward momentum, it would be an unhappy time getting home on leg power alone.
@@blackmoon925 how exactly? When the bike is off the rear wheel has additional resistance. Have you rode the bicycle without any power for a few miles?
Awesome review. I believe there is a type of regen motor that has a sort of a "clutch" of sorts so the resistance doesn't have to be engaged and overcome for pedaling. That motor is a bit more pricey but it seems that IF this bike had that feature the rear wheel could spin freely whenever you didn't need regen.
I find that coasting ir freewheeling on flat and small grades yields better range than having it regen on every instance. I like to leave the motor regen for steep hills or when coming to a complete stop
Oh man thanks for this video. I was always tempted to get the Engwe Pro after I bought the Engwe EP-2 but I wasn't too sure. Firstly as you point out, not many bike manufacturers have regenerative braking. I began to wonder why. Next I compared regenerative braking in a car compared to a bicycle. I realized that on a pedal bike you hardly ever brake (or at least you don't brake as often as in a car or motorbike). Imagine this: You get into your car and pull out of your driveway. You BRAKE. You pull out and come to the first junction. You BRAKE. You might decide to go on ahead and come to another junction. You BRAKE. You're travelling down the road and a car suddenly pulls out in front of you. You BRAKE. You might come to a roundabout. You BRAKE. You turn off at the gas station. You BRAKE. You're braking all the time. On a pedal bike there's very little interference when riding. I decided against getting this bike, but appreciate you making this video.
Toyota Prius has had a similar regen feature for maybe 10 years now. That's appealing to me, because it is tested technology.. Engine braking charges batteries and saves brake wear at the same time.
regen is nice to have because of less wear and tear on the braking pads. And a few meters extra are a few meters extra. Stromer ST 7 also has regen breaking. I always use the E-motor, so regen is a no-brainer.
Great review. My buddy might get this or the Hummer eBike that's similar. I think a lot of those rectangular bikes with battery that slides inside are made by the same folks who send to others to modify and put their label on it. Could be wrong, but I ended up with a Rad-Mini last Nov. just as they were getting rid of them. The Rad is highly customizable with other parts that fit with no splicing needed. I got it to keep busy last winter as I healed post surgery. Ended up upgrading everything but the motor and frame. That was the plan and I couldn't be happier with the insane acceleration, but if I could do it over, I might consider something like yours.
This has been a pretty good bike. Yes. It's similar to other Chinese models like the Yamee and others. My favorite features of this one the mag wheels and paint job. It's a head turner. The regen is cool but probably not as useful in everyday riding.
I considered this one, but ended up buying the Jinghma R7 with the mag wheels. The motor is much more powerful, and I like the location of the rear shock a lot more compared to the engine pro. It also has an adjustable front susp. and a different, imo less advanced screen, which I actually don't really mind. Only weird thing is that the battery level read outs are not accurate, but it's fine so far. With dual battery, i payed 1400 euros
Thank you for another great video. After watching you video on the Lectric XP 2.0, I bought one thru your link. I am now looking a the light for my wife, thanks to your in-depth review of this new model. I have been a long time subscriber and thoroughly enjoy your videos. Please keep them coming. Keith
Def looks cool and has a lot of features for the money. I bought a different one last year otherwise I would have def considered purchasing this one. It;s discounted nicely right now!
My Haibike has to be on at least the eco (lowest) mode to enjoy cruising as if on a non eBike. I have no throttle which gives me exercise no matter what style of riding I am enjoying. eBikes are the future. Mine are t years old now and the Yamaha PW motor and batteries are still like new. I will be selling my car soon, just have’t gotten around to it. Thanks for the video.
From belgium I have a lot of good ideas lol It can regenerate from P0 to P2 at sport mode (seen on another video).... ok not convient in most situations, but if you set 100% power on P2 in the setting you can have max power and generate power in the battery 😀
I have this great bike. The one thing I do different is to set the pedal assist to 0-3. I have found going with 5-9 are too many as your speed is limited to 0-25 and how many times do you want to add 1/2 miles per hour. I also, for battery usage have set the pedal assist to 1=40%, 2=47% and 3=75% this gives me a top speed of 18 MPH in 3 and saves the battery a lot. 3=100% uses the battery quickly.
In my mind simple explanation of "regen".... Mechanical energy is being converted back to a "charge" (electrical energy) via gravity (steep hill/decent) in this case. On the flip side when "assisting" forward momentum, electric energy is being converted to mechanical energy.
Regen is super important. Only commercial bike that has it. Urban riding is way faster and safe if you can rocket between stops/lights and get free braking in between. Downhill safety. Less brake wear means longer safety time between pad changes. Regen makes cargo carrying at speed safer. Bike would need a stronger/torquyer motor to maximize benefit, and overall usefulness of bike though.
Very nice review, but I'm not certain that the regenerative feature is worth it. On a cruise last month I rented an ebike (Radpower) as a test of the ebike experience. I was very impressed. I did about 4 miles in deep sand and a couple miles on the open beach. As a motorcyclist, I found myself pressing the group leader to go faster in the deep sand as that's what I'm used to on the motorcycle. Feeling the pedal assist kick in after pedaling was a cool feeling.
Great review! I Didn't know there was a power regeneration E-bike, thinking it might be a gimmick by the manufacturer. Everything about this bike was well described and details were explained clearly, so a newby like me understood it well. I liked everything about this bike till you explained about the power regeneration part, (good that you explained that last) seems to be good for exercise and braking downhill than anything else.
Thanks. Yes there are a few out there, but not too many. Like I said at the end, I've enjoyed riding this bike with and without the regen. The regen does add some inefficiencies though in my opinion and manufacturers have been working on ways to overcome that.
It is a gimick i bought this bike it will give u about 2 pecent battery back the rack is great the controller is horrible its smaller than a cell phone and over heats the bike is rated 750watts its peak out is 650watts so u know the mottor is really a 500watt
This is an unfortunate first experience with regen modes on an ebike. On a better setup (look into any of the Grin ecosystem), you pull the brake lever and the throttle then serves as a variable regen lever. That way you can get a small amount, or a lot, or regen -- up to, and including, almost fully stopping. I usually recommend DD motors (or geared with a locked clutch as this like appears) so that you can have regen -- not because it'll get you extra range (it's, at best, maybe 5-10%), but it will absolutely save you money on brake pads over the course of a few years. It also gives you another form of vehicle stoppage, which is a nice perk.
Great review. It would be a bit embarrassing someone seeing you sweat and puff profusely on the flat but them not knowing that you're also charging the battery! I think I'd want to use the charging feature on the downhill sections only.
In terms of an electric car, the real significance of regen is not the recharging factor but the fact that it provides a parallel braking system. So with EVs it means that owners are not changing out brake pads nearly so much. So is this advantage transferred to the ENGWE Engine Pro? I ask this because I have an electric bike in a hilly area and find it very hard on brake pads.
You have to hit the - button several times to toggle it to 0, then it will regen and only if you are going fast enough. If you have long hills this can be useful to limit your top speed. For short hills it will be over before you get the thing turned on, then you have to undo that to go up the hill. In general, I find the regen useless.
@@johntaves487 If you set the gears to 0-3 it is very easy to go 1 or 2 to 0 and regen down a hill. who needs 5 or 9 gears. I cruse at 1=11 2=13, 3=18 and pedal about 50% of the time and get 40 miles out of the Battery. My son pedals all the time and gets 50+ miles.
Awesome. Just watched you lastest video. As always very impressed. As ebike owners ourselfs that we use as get around when rving. . Ours has the same regeneration system. In fact almost the whole bike.Rattan xl s. Folding. Same everything. Had for year or so amd Lov them. And yes lol. To get any regen you gotta peddle like the wind for a long long time!!! . Excellent. !! Enjoyed it a lot.. following.
Ok so it sounds like the regenerative mode thing is sort of like I suspected nice to have but not worth the extra dollars for the bike since it's not going to recharge the battery much. Nice to have the braking effect but I'm happy with what I got. I read a lot about engue before I finally bought a different brand. Didn't remember seeing that with suspension in the rear. Good video 👍
One thing i dont understand about the bike is the need for mechanical gears? It has so many stage of power. 1 - 5 in 3 different modes it really would have been better suited with a carbon belt and single gear. Especially considering it's rugged exterior.
Hi Tito great review very interesting, I bought 2013 Bionx made in Asbestos Québec Canada since the company just dosent exist anymore but it was about the same system.
I have a red mini E bike I live in Lake County California and I ride all the time on dirt roads and single track trails one of the biggest problems are downhill breaking for long periods of time is painful to my hands so regenerative braking would be a awesome asset to have I find the brakes on a 65 pound bike going down the steep hills to be quite inadequate I need to upgrade them to better brakes right about this time I wish I had regenerative braking something to slow you down when you’re at a downhill incline for a long period of time to me would be a Huge blessing just wanted to point that out since you didn’t mention it
Great review! Very tempted - seems like the perfect ebike for me, *if* the regen doesn't really drag it down. Would you consider doing some comparison tests of the regen? 1) Ride a set course with regen on & off, and see what the difference in range is to a given battery level (or battery level at a given distance) - might do both a hill course and a flat course 2) On a flat surface, from a given speed, how far does it coast? 1) with regen on, 2) with regen off, and 3) on a different ebike Thanks!
The regen is useless. 1) you won't gain squat with the regen. If you are on a mountain bike course, and the regen was triggered by the brake handle, and you used the brakes, then you would see a difference. But this is not triggered by a simple brake/go lever. It is triggered by some fiddly button on the handle bar, so you'll never get to it in time. The bike will have slowed from friction before you get to that stupid fiddly button. Then you have to fiddle with that stupid button to get power to go back up the hill. It is totally useless on quick short hills. 2) Forget regen on a flat surface. And it does not make any sense to talk about coasting and regen. Regen is a brake. The more it is generating, the more it is braking. Plus, it does not generate at low speeds, which means that you only get the regen for the top half of your braking needs. The most efficient way to come to a stop is without regen and without brakes. 3) The only way you will see decent regen is if you have a long hill where it is so steep that coasting will make you go too fast. And that hill has to have the correct steepness because if it is too shallow, you'll slow too quickly since the regen is not adjustable. If it is too steep, then it won't be a very long hill anyway. In short the regen is totally useless
Mine has never worked Tito, Engwe support made it really difficult for me, not seeing the obvious in the videos I sent and made low ball offers to let them off of just honoring the warranty. I love the bike, and really wish they would make it as It is supposed to work. I also am getting significant clunking noise from the front fork, I worked down the allen bolt and it helped some but not nearly as quiet as yours in your videos or others I have looked at.
I owned a bike that was identical to this, except it was imported with a different brand name. It was "Fat bear" by Ratan. I found the regen to be pointless. They need to make it happen on the backwards movement of the throttle, or a separate brake handle. This would allow you to use it as a brake properly. Having to flip the setting to zero cannot happen at a moment's notice. The charge level indicator was total crap too. I went on a journey of about 7.5 miles to Home Depot. I had off road sand, then a head wind going downhill, then roller coaster pavement. The whole time I was going to to HD, the meter read 100%. At HD it read 76%. On the return, I was going uphill, but had some tail wind and most of the way it ready around 76%. I didn't do the sand, but took a longer route on dirt road. A mile or two from the RV, the meter read 45%. Previously it had pooped out reading 44%, so I knew I could be in trouble at any moment. Pedaling that thing without juice is a nightmare. I made it and then estimated the power I used and it came very close to the rated ah capacity of the battery. The problem is that they do not accumulate the amps to properly measure the capacity. They are just measuring the voltage, so you end up with effectively a 3 position level: with full (100%), not full (75%) and you might be dead at any moment (45%). The final thing that was very annoying was that it would deliver 750watts when I did not pedal, but if I pedal, it would drop to 330! It is really annoying that it won't deliver the full power when I pedal. On a mountain bike trail, it can make the difference between walking up and not. Mine was stolen, but even with those huge irritations at their stupid software, I bought the Engui.
I'm familiar with that bike too. You're right. I wish these bikes would measure current to indicate the battery SOC, but it's based on voltage. Because of that it fluctuates quite a bit as you use the motor causing the voltage to drop. From what I've seen so far, they are all like that. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
John, everything you're complaining about is adjustable in the advanced settings. Some isn't well documented but all the information is available in videos. Check out Sonny Whitehurst's channel. Different brand (Polarna), same controller and settings.
@@StormyDog I wrote about 3 complaints. 1) the regen is not operated by a brake lever, 2) the charge level is using voltage, instead of counting amps over time, and 3) it would not deliver more than 330 watts while pedaling. Only #3 might be different from the fat bear to the engwe. I need to do more experimenting to see if I can get it to deliver 750watts while pedaling. Sonny Whitehurst's video (Polarna E-Bike ~ Controller Settings) mentions none of these 3 issues.
@@johntaves487 Obviously #1 is not settable. #2: Whitehurst has a video on setting the charge level to be accurate for your bike. #3: There is the ability to set the PAS levels to 0-3, 1-3, 0-5, 1-5, 0-7, 1-7, 0-9, 1-9 and supply from 0-100% according to your preference. Whitehurst has several videos on various aspects of these settings. Some others have talked about this too. It's possible that the Engwe has some advanced settings disabled but I would encourage you to explore these solutions, if you want a solution. These are for Polarna but hopefully they are the same or similar for most of these cookie cutter brands.
@@StormyDog #2: the advanced settings to alter the charge levels is a mapping of voltage to %. Using voltage to determine charge level is lousy. The voltage changes when you put a load on it, and lithium based batteries have a very flat charge to voltage curve. The bike should sum the amps over time to determine the charge level. #3: I just tried the Engwe and it will do 833W when not pedaling, but drops to 566w when pedaling. I was unable to get more than 566W when pedaling with the different PAS modes.
I was gung ho for this bike when you started the review, by the end I was like, no way would I own this bike. There is too little return for too much investment. Good review though Brian!
If not this bike…another. EBikes are absolutely the way to go for scouting/exercise/fun. With a throttle or not, 300 watts or a 1000 obtain one as soon as you can. As for the cost…you need a mindset that allows you to invest in yourself. I have three eBikes from 2016/16 that cost far more than this model so remember you can spend as much as you believe your health/the planet is worth to you. Remember to treat non eBikers with respect…they already scoff at those who ride with a motor and eBikers need no further disdain than we already have. See you on the road and trails.
EBikes never used to cost this little, especially for a turn-key, middle level quality rig. The returns are immense, the investment less than it has ever been.
It looks like you are set on the folding bikes. Not sure I like the small battery capacity and regen braking. I live in an area with no hills. I also like to be able to keep up more with traffic .. So my choice was the Ariel Rider Kepler. Goes 35 mph throttle or PAS. 20 ah 52V. Just is a big bike. I think the only thing in a folding E Bike right now that I would consider is the Wallke H6 with dual batteries. 👍
Hello Tito nice review. I would like to see you do something with the center shock. You are correct it is a bit stiff. I have a Polarna ebike which is just like yours.
Noted! I haven't adjusted it yet. It looks like it was installed with two washers on one side and none on the other. I saw someone else moved a washer over and lubed it up which made a big difference.
Brian: Nice looking ebike! Weighing in @ 70+ lbs? Yikes! Imported from Poland….with all the supply chain issues, are you aware of any shipping delays? Thanks for another informative and interesting video.
hello, thank you for sharing your opinion with us. Whats the torgue of this motor? i refer that because where i live has many uphills with large declinations and is difficult to ride. Is this bike proper in this case?Can i upgrade the motor to something more powerfull in terms of torgue?
So what happened to the Leletric ebike? We got the Lelectric and I enjoy riding it. It does very well going up hills. The only drawback is the uncomfortable stock seat. We did order the upgraded the seats and comfort package but they have a backlog on their accessories which is delaying us to go on longer trips. For the price and getting back on a bike after 20 or so years and having the pedal assist is great. This one you’re reviewing seems great and seems a bit more for adventurous riders. 😂 Thanks for the review. Hopefully we’ll see an update on your Winnebago Journey soon?
The Lectric 2.0s are great. Definitely an excellent entry level option. We love them. My wife is going to try the non step through (the one I use) for a while as I experiment with this one. The big seat is definitely worth it. In the shop working on inverter and battery setup as we speak👍. Look for an update soon.
A close friend of mine bought an ebike with no traditional pedal transmission. BIG MISTAKE! His "electrisity" ran down 12 miles away, in the middle of nowhere, and he was forced to push his now-impotent bike the rest of the way home. I have nothing against ebikes, although I would never buy one (pedal bikes are much better for your health), but if you're thinking of buying one, make sure it also has a traditional pedal transmission, or you may find yourself walking a very long distance just to get back.
It's kind of a toss up for me. One thing I did notice though and was not mentioned was the lack of castor in those handle bars and forks. When watching you ride it looked like you were doing alot of steering correction and was worried you would catch the edge of the pavement. Was it stabile and easy to balance/steer? From the video it didn't look like it was.
It's very stable and easy to control. I tend to ride right on the edge of the road. In that shot going up the steep hill, I was really pedaling hard and moving my body which causes me to move around more. Of course a 25" handle bar would give you a little more control especially on trails and I may upgrade to one. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Hello, this bicycle has lasted me 10 days of use and I am very careful. It is a real headache for them to send you the parts. I have already sent videos and photos, but they are not responsible. It is a Chinese company with a warehouse in the United States.
I challenge you to recharge this battery from flat using your legs. A pro rider can manage maybe 300 watts, someone riding a stationary bike might generate 100 watts if they are in good shape. I'd really be interested to know how many miles are on these Ebike a year from now and what part of the garage they have been relegated to permanently sit?
@@billwaller4094 are you saying he rides an electric bike 56 miles round trip? This is his primary transportation and he is able to charge the batteries at work?
@Ronald McDonaldtrump I think I may have stated this wrong. I meant that most people that I have seen with these on their RVs never use them. Or use them a few times but get tired of loading them up because they weigh too much.
Hi, thanks for the review. I've been looking at buying this bike but some reviews have mentioned that it's not great on power. I live in the Chiltern hills in the UK so power is crucial for an old f*** like me. You seem to think it's good o power so now I'm confused?
Hello, I don't know if you speak French, but I will allow myself to express myself in my native language. Know that I bought a PX6 bike almost 2 years ago, it arrived after a year exactly 11 months ago, apart from the fact that the first week of use the front brake disc screws loosened causing me to fall, which I then lost a pedal then the kickstand, it only worked well for 3 months in all and for all! For the past 8 months, I've been spending my time communicating through a translator with the after-sales service, waiting for spare parts that don't work and worse that aren't original, like the speedometer that doesn't work. 'I was sent back (see photo). In conclusion, after months of waiting to receive spare parts that did not work, I asked to operate the warranty of the bike and I was told that the bike is no longer guaranteed, whereas if we take the date of reception less than a year ago, without taking into account the months of waiting with a broken down bike, I am told today that the motor is out of order and I would have to pay again for a motor and mount it myself with an old speedometer (one is broken and on the other the cruise control does not work) Anyway to conclude I was blocked on the chat with a smiley, making fun of me what ..... It's a SHAME !!!!!! This is simply dishonest! I'm sick of such practice, I'm going to make RUclips videos and I'm going to burn it on Tic Toc this broken down bike that is useless! This is the modest opinion of a customer unhappy to have been had! Message for those interested: FLEE!!!!!
Could you please help me about two questions ihv about engwe pro engine bike 1 ) is it legal to use this bike on uk road and countryside to daily commute 2} do we need license to ride this kind of bike like 750 w
Great review thanks! So when the regen feature doesn't kick in coasting downhill, do you feel more resistance on a flat road if you just pedal without any motor assistance vs a bike that doesn't have this resistive motor? Does it mean the hub motor has gears in it that may wear out over time?
The regen only adds drag when it is generating. The motor is no different than any other motor. There are no additional gears. The regen feature is rather useless.
Nice Ebike ..... wow we have the same ebike .... there are sooo many different COPIES LOL ..... I've had mine for 4 years now going on 5 years now .. only road it in the flood once and no issues what so ever !!! Have you tried riding it standing? Tell me what you think. I don't sit maybe 3x out of 4 years. WoW $1,700 got mine for about $700 :)
Interesting video. I was trying to figure out what the 3 different modes were for. I'm guessing Sport mode is just the most aggressive of the 3. My bike came with a different display. My gears keep slipping. They never adjusted them properly in the factory. Is it easy to do? There's also a slight ringing noise sometimes. Not sure if it's the kickstand or motor?
Yes. You can definitely adjust the gears yourself. I learned how and do it regularly now. Here's a good video tutorial ruclips.net/video/UkZxPIZ1ngY/видео.html My guess is the ringing sound is the motor. That motor has a different sound to it. Enjoy!
@@RVwithTito it's the disc brake rattling of the pad. I don't think their alligned properly? Are the brake pads adjustable on these bikes? I'm kind of afraid to touch anything incase I void the warranty. I just got the thing after a long wait. What a fun machine though 😎
Great review! Do you happen to know if I could set an assistant speed limit (25km/h for example) ONLY for the normal mode but have it limitless on sport mode?
what i do with my ebike,if i want to do a long rid say 50 to 70 miles i take a spare battery in a case on my rack tied down 1 10ah battery connected and 1 10ah on my rear rack, that gets me the miles i want.
My concern is ‘the upper handle bars’ - they don’t look strong for off-road. So, you can peddle to maximise regeneration on a downhill run? Or peddling tells bike to stop regenerating? Or does that depend on mode?
It sounds like the bike won't freely coast like a normal ebike when you stop pedaling on flat ground, you always need power assist. It also sounds like with power set to 0 that pedaling the bike with no assist is really difficult, having excess undesired drag. Given the minimal charge obtained for the fraction of time going downhills, that's why other ebike manufacturers don't include it, as the experience is poor for most people familiar with normal ebikes. Sound like a gimmick. We recently wanted to ride our ebikes on Mackinac Island where ebikes are forbidden. However riding an ebike with the battery removed is acceptable, which worked for us. They were fine on flat ground. That Engwe ebike would not work well in that case, based on your experience with the bike.
@@RVwithTito check this out if you put a front hub motor and an additional battery you could kick the original motor in regen mode on flat surfaces and get a good recharge of original battery
I have the engine pro and I love it. Just a few questions about it. A glaring issue I have with the bike is that the front steering assembly seems loose. I have tried to hold it together and tighten as much as I can by myself but it always seems to get looser as I ride. (around 150 miles on the bike so far.) The front assembly came with a white cap on the top of it, I unscrewed it and put in the handlebars, throwing away the white cap and screw. Was I supposed to reuse that screw?? Also what PSI do you keep the tires at? Any help will be much appreciated!
Yes, I think that screw is the problem. Fold the handlebars and if there is no screw with on a large washer going down the shaft, then that's your problem. Get an M6*30 bolt and a big washer. That will hold the handlebars down onto the shaft. Without it, you are using only the grip of the C clamp around the shaft. I can send a photo if you need it.
Quick question because this is my first electric bike: do your wheels "rub" and make noise too? in a normal bicycle, if you spin the wheel, it will spin for quite a long time. for me it loses speed almost immediately
hi, do you know if this bike are the actual makers? I hear lots of resellers pretending its them, but this technology seems unique from most bikes. Anyway to trick the bike its going down hill in case the economy crashes and no other way to charge? Visually it seems it charges quick. I hope it spends not as fast.
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Great review! You are the only one to indicate the eco, normal and sport modes! Congratulations for this very complete review
Thanks! 👍 Glad it was helpful.
Jeremiah McIntosh also indicates the eco, normal, and sport modes. But he doesn't show the rear hub resistance to spin.
*Very well made **Latest.Bike** , looks sporty and performance is awesome I love this machine! It also rides like a Cadillac So you'll love it to!*
Great review! Clear explanation how to ride this bike. Thank you.
Bought one myself! Arrived yesterday, assembling was easy and made my first kilometers. I am already enthusiastic.
Nice ... have you tried riding it standing?
@@djsuperkph I have made more than 700 km now. Even off road and going up hill there is no direct need to ride it standing. It is possible, but you need to consider that this is not a mountainbike.
@@5007erwin True .... but it's a whole new level or riding. It's fun and fantastic !!!! :)
@@djsuperkph I totally agree 👍!! These bikes are awesome.
I Love My ENGWE... also it's all Aluminum, Welds are beautiful. I have over 600 miles on mine..
Excellent review Brian. The shots of you riding over a curb was an excellent way to demonstrate the suspension. This model, it seems to me, is more of an exercise machine than one ridden for fun or grocery getting. Lectric also has a sale on and includes a few premium accessories for $949 as of this date.
Thanks. I wouldn't consider it an exercise machine. Like any ebike you can pedal as little or as much as you want. If you ignore the regen feature, it's a powerful eBike on pedal assist or throttle.
Exercise machine? How did you get that idea?
I took my engwe on a mountain bike course and had a great time. I've taken it on plenty of hiking trails and it was excellent. I've ridden it on sandy beaches, through creeks, and over river rocks. The combination of fat tires and full suspension is terrific.
It handles getting groceries with aplomb. At many campgrounds, I find off road shortcuts to and from the store that are fun. The Lectric bikes do not have full suspension and I would not want a hard tail for grocery getting, or off roading.
The one thing I like about the Lectric bikes is that I think they use 3" fat tires instead of the 4". I would be happier with lighter tires and a thinner bike.
@@johntaves487 The minute the battery or electronics cut out on a ride, you have to pedal home on the equivalent of a exercise bike since this thing's motor has drag you have to overcome, something a non-regen bike wouldn't penalize you with. Add the extra weight and dual suspension making pedaling forces less efficient into forward momentum, it would be an unhappy time getting home on leg power alone.
You can switch of regen anytime!
@@blackmoon925 how exactly? When the bike is off the rear wheel has additional resistance. Have you rode the bicycle without any power for a few miles?
Awesome review. I believe there is a type of regen motor that has a sort of a "clutch" of sorts so the resistance doesn't have to be engaged and overcome for pedaling. That motor is a bit more pricey but it seems that IF this bike had that feature the rear wheel could spin freely whenever you didn't need regen.
I find that coasting ir freewheeling on flat and small grades yields better range than having it regen on every instance. I like to leave the motor regen for steep hills or when coming to a complete stop
Oh man thanks for this video. I was always tempted to get the Engwe Pro after I bought the Engwe EP-2 but I wasn't too sure. Firstly as you point out, not many bike manufacturers have regenerative braking. I began to wonder why. Next I compared regenerative braking in a car compared to a bicycle. I realized that on a pedal bike you hardly ever brake (or at least you don't brake as often as in a car or motorbike). Imagine this: You get into your car and pull out of your driveway. You BRAKE. You pull out and come to the first junction. You BRAKE. You might decide to go on ahead and come to another junction. You BRAKE. You're travelling down the road and a car suddenly pulls out in front of you. You BRAKE. You might come to a roundabout. You BRAKE. You turn off at the gas station. You BRAKE. You're braking all the time. On a pedal bike there's very little interference when riding. I decided against getting this bike, but appreciate you making this video.
One of the joys of riding is the thrill of the fast downhill - this regen takes that away 😉
Toyota Prius has had a similar regen feature for maybe 10 years now. That's appealing to me, because it is tested technology.. Engine braking charges batteries and saves brake wear at the same time.
Yeah, let's compare a bike and a car. Seems legit.
Rude!
regen is nice to have because of less wear and tear on the braking pads. And a few meters extra are a few meters extra. Stromer ST 7 also has regen breaking. I always use the E-motor, so regen is a no-brainer.
Great review. My buddy might get this or the Hummer eBike that's similar. I think a lot of those rectangular bikes with battery that slides inside are made by the same folks who send to others to modify and put their label on it. Could be wrong, but I ended up with a Rad-Mini last Nov. just as they were getting rid of them.
The Rad is highly customizable with other parts that fit with no splicing needed. I got it to keep busy last winter as I healed post surgery. Ended up upgrading everything but the motor and frame. That was the plan and I couldn't be happier with the insane acceleration, but if I could do it over, I might consider something like yours.
This has been a pretty good bike. Yes. It's similar to other Chinese models like the Yamee and others. My favorite features of this one the mag wheels and paint job. It's a head turner. The regen is cool but probably not as useful in everyday riding.
I considered this one, but ended up buying the Jinghma R7 with the mag wheels. The motor is much more powerful, and I like the location of the rear shock a lot more compared to the engine pro. It also has an adjustable front susp. and a different, imo less advanced screen, which I actually don't really mind. Only weird thing is that the battery level read outs are not accurate, but it's fine so far. With dual battery, i payed 1400 euros
I'm not a rocket Scientist but the Jinghma R7 looks the exact same bike with a supposed 800w motor?
Thank you for another great video. After watching you video on the Lectric XP 2.0, I bought one thru your link. I am now looking a the light for my wife, thanks to your in-depth review of this new model. I have been a long time subscriber and thoroughly enjoy your videos. Please keep them coming. Keith
Regen feature is only supposed to kick in on 0 or 1 pas mode and >12mph . I just purchased one of these bikes and an extra battery for $1500
Def looks cool and has a lot of features for the money. I bought a different one last year otherwise I would have def considered purchasing this one. It;s discounted nicely right now!
Yes. Good deal right now.
Well done. You helped me to understand the pros & cons...
My Haibike has to be on at least the eco (lowest) mode to enjoy cruising as if on a non eBike. I have no throttle which gives me exercise no matter what style of riding I am enjoying. eBikes are the future. Mine are t years old now and the Yamaha PW motor and batteries are still like new. I will be selling my car soon, just have’t gotten around to it. Thanks for the video.
From belgium I have a lot of good ideas lol
It can regenerate from P0 to P2 at sport mode (seen on another video).... ok not convient in most situations, but if you set 100% power on P2 in the setting you can have max power and generate power in the battery 😀
I appreciated the educated review my man --- you got me engaged big time!
I have this great bike. The one thing I do different is to set the pedal assist to 0-3. I have found going with 5-9 are too many as your speed is limited to 0-25 and how many times do you want to add 1/2 miles per hour. I also, for battery usage have set the pedal assist to 1=40%, 2=47% and 3=75% this gives me a top speed of 18 MPH in 3 and saves the battery a lot. 3=100% uses the battery quickly.
In my mind simple explanation of "regen".... Mechanical energy is being converted back to a "charge" (electrical energy) via gravity (steep hill/decent) in this case. On the flip side when "assisting" forward momentum, electric energy is being converted to mechanical energy.
Thanks for the simple explanation. Mine may have been a bit wordy :)
Regen is super important. Only commercial bike that has it. Urban riding is way faster and safe if you can rocket between stops/lights and get free braking in between. Downhill safety. Less brake wear means longer safety time between pad changes. Regen makes cargo carrying at speed safer. Bike would need a stronger/torquyer motor to maximize benefit, and overall usefulness of bike though.
Very nice review, but I'm not certain that the regenerative feature is worth it. On a cruise last month I rented an ebike (Radpower) as a test of the ebike experience. I was very impressed. I did about 4 miles in deep sand and a couple miles on the open beach. As a motorcyclist, I found myself pressing the group leader to go faster in the deep sand as that's what I'm used to on the motorcycle. Feeling the pedal assist kick in after pedaling was a cool feeling.
I bought mine for $700 dollars .... I have all the same parts as the narrator has :) You gotta shop around :)
Great review! I Didn't know there was a power regeneration E-bike, thinking it might be a gimmick by the manufacturer. Everything about this bike was well described and details were explained clearly, so a newby like me understood it well. I liked everything about this bike till you explained about the power regeneration part, (good that you explained that last) seems to be good for exercise and braking downhill than anything else.
Thanks. Yes there are a few out there, but not too many. Like I said at the end, I've enjoyed riding this bike with and without the regen. The regen does add some inefficiencies though in my opinion and manufacturers have been working on ways to overcome that.
It is a gimick i bought this bike it will give u about 2 pecent battery back the rack is great the controller is horrible its smaller than a cell phone and over heats the bike is rated 750watts its peak out is 650watts so u know the mottor is really a 500watt
' the motor is 350 watts max and the controller is junk and the bike is a turd waiting for a dumb buyer.😝
This is an unfortunate first experience with regen modes on an ebike. On a better setup (look into any of the Grin ecosystem), you pull the brake lever and the throttle then serves as a variable regen lever. That way you can get a small amount, or a lot, or regen -- up to, and including, almost fully stopping.
I usually recommend DD motors (or geared with a locked clutch as this like appears) so that you can have regen -- not because it'll get you extra range (it's, at best, maybe 5-10%), but it will absolutely save you money on brake pads over the course of a few years. It also gives you another form of vehicle stoppage, which is a nice perk.
Thank you for the video. Blessings to you.
Best video I’ve seen! Thank you
Great review. It would be a bit embarrassing someone seeing you sweat and puff profusely on the flat but them not knowing that you're also charging the battery! I think I'd want to use the charging feature on the downhill sections only.
Too cold to sweat 😄
Of course, go to 0 on downhills and get the braking and regen. Not much use elsewhere.
Thanks so much for your very informative and helpful review.
You're welcome 👍
Super presentation, thank you, Raymond, Kerry, Ireland.
Very interesting video. Thanks for covering this unusual option.
In terms of an electric car, the real significance of regen is not the recharging factor but the fact that it provides a parallel braking system. So with EVs it means that owners are not changing out brake pads nearly so much. So is this advantage transferred to the ENGWE Engine Pro? I ask this because I have an electric bike in a hilly area and find it very hard on brake pads.
Good point. That is certainly true. You just have to dial the pedal assist back to enable the braking.
You have to hit the - button several times to toggle it to 0, then it will regen and only if you are going fast enough. If you have long hills this can be useful to limit your top speed. For short hills it will be over before you get the thing turned on, then you have to undo that to go up the hill.
In general, I find the regen useless.
@@johntaves487 If you set the gears to 0-3 it is very easy to go 1 or 2 to 0 and regen down a hill. who needs 5 or 9 gears. I cruse at 1=11 2=13, 3=18 and pedal about 50% of the time and get 40 miles out of the Battery. My son pedals all the time and gets 50+ miles.
Awesome. Just watched you lastest video. As always very impressed. As ebike owners ourselfs that we use as get around when rving. . Ours has the same regeneration system. In fact almost the whole bike.Rattan xl s. Folding. Same everything. Had for year or so amd Lov them. And yes lol. To get any regen you gotta peddle like the wind for a long long time!!! . Excellent. !! Enjoyed it a lot.. following.
Ok so it sounds like the regenerative mode thing is sort of like I suspected nice to have but not worth the extra dollars for the bike since it's not going to recharge the battery much. Nice to have the braking effect but I'm happy with what I got. I read a lot about engue before I finally bought a different brand. Didn't remember seeing that with suspension in the rear. Good video 👍
One thing i dont understand about the bike is the need for mechanical gears? It has so many stage of power. 1 - 5 in 3 different modes it really would have been better suited with a carbon belt and single gear. Especially considering it's rugged exterior.
only had mine 4 days and two rides down and less than 50 miles on the clock the fail point is the rear fender mounts that split
Hi Tito great review very interesting, I bought 2013 Bionx made in Asbestos Québec Canada since the company just dosent exist anymore but it was about the same system.
Thanks for the info!
I have a red mini E bike I live in Lake County California and I ride all the time on dirt roads and single track trails one of the biggest problems are downhill breaking for long periods of time is painful to my hands so regenerative braking would be a awesome asset to have I find the brakes on a 65 pound bike going down the steep hills to be quite inadequate I need to upgrade them to better brakes right about this time I wish I had regenerative braking something to slow you down when you’re at a downhill incline for a long period of time to me would be a Huge blessing just wanted to point that out since you didn’t mention it
Yes , awesome review! 👌
very nice review thank you for this information !!!
You Bet!
Great review! Very tempted - seems like the perfect ebike for me, *if* the regen doesn't really drag it down.
Would you consider doing some comparison tests of the regen?
1) Ride a set course with regen on & off, and see what the difference in range is to a given battery level (or battery level at a given distance) - might do both a hill course and a flat course
2) On a flat surface, from a given speed, how far does it coast? 1) with regen on, 2) with regen off, and 3) on a different ebike
Thanks!
The regen is useless.
1) you won't gain squat with the regen. If you are on a mountain bike course, and the regen was triggered by the brake handle, and you used the brakes, then you would see a difference. But this is not triggered by a simple brake/go lever. It is triggered by some fiddly button on the handle bar, so you'll never get to it in time. The bike will have slowed from friction before you get to that stupid fiddly button. Then you have to fiddle with that stupid button to get power to go back up the hill. It is totally useless on quick short hills.
2) Forget regen on a flat surface. And it does not make any sense to talk about coasting and regen. Regen is a brake. The more it is generating, the more it is braking. Plus, it does not generate at low speeds, which means that you only get the regen for the top half of your braking needs. The most efficient way to come to a stop is without regen and without brakes.
3) The only way you will see decent regen is if you have a long hill where it is so steep that coasting will make you go too fast. And that hill has to have the correct steepness because if it is too shallow, you'll slow too quickly since the regen is not adjustable. If it is too steep, then it won't be a very long hill anyway.
In short the regen is totally useless
Best review!
Glad you liked it.
Mine has never worked Tito, Engwe support made it really difficult for me, not seeing the obvious in the videos I sent and made low ball offers to let them off of just honoring the warranty. I love the bike, and really wish they would make it as It is supposed to work. I also am getting significant clunking noise from the front fork, I worked down the allen bolt and it helped some but not nearly as quiet as yours in your videos or others I have looked at.
This guy is getting a free bike so of course he's going to love it !
I owned a bike that was identical to this, except it was imported with a different brand name. It was "Fat bear" by Ratan. I found the regen to be pointless. They need to make it happen on the backwards movement of the throttle, or a separate brake handle. This would allow you to use it as a brake properly. Having to flip the setting to zero cannot happen at a moment's notice.
The charge level indicator was total crap too. I went on a journey of about 7.5 miles to Home Depot. I had off road sand, then a head wind going downhill, then roller coaster pavement. The whole time I was going to to HD, the meter read 100%. At HD it read 76%. On the return, I was going uphill, but had some tail wind and most of the way it ready around 76%. I didn't do the sand, but took a longer route on dirt road. A mile or two from the RV, the meter read 45%. Previously it had pooped out reading 44%, so I knew I could be in trouble at any moment. Pedaling that thing without juice is a nightmare. I made it and then estimated the power I used and it came very close to the rated ah capacity of the battery. The problem is that they do not accumulate the amps to properly measure the capacity. They are just measuring the voltage, so you end up with effectively a 3 position level: with full (100%), not full (75%) and you might be dead at any moment (45%).
The final thing that was very annoying was that it would deliver 750watts when I did not pedal, but if I pedal, it would drop to 330! It is really annoying that it won't deliver the full power when I pedal. On a mountain bike trail, it can make the difference between walking up and not.
Mine was stolen, but even with those huge irritations at their stupid software, I bought the Engui.
I'm familiar with that bike too. You're right. I wish these bikes would measure current to indicate the battery SOC, but it's based on voltage. Because of that it fluctuates quite a bit as you use the motor causing the voltage to drop. From what I've seen so far, they are all like that. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
John, everything you're complaining about is adjustable in the advanced settings. Some isn't well documented but all the information is available in videos. Check out Sonny Whitehurst's channel. Different brand (Polarna), same controller and settings.
@@StormyDog I wrote about 3 complaints. 1) the regen is not operated by a brake lever, 2) the charge level is using voltage, instead of counting amps over time, and 3) it would not deliver more than 330 watts while pedaling.
Only #3 might be different from the fat bear to the engwe. I need to do more experimenting to see if I can get it to deliver 750watts while pedaling. Sonny Whitehurst's video (Polarna E-Bike ~ Controller Settings) mentions none of these 3 issues.
@@johntaves487 Obviously #1 is not settable. #2: Whitehurst has a video on setting the charge level to be accurate for your bike. #3: There is the ability to set the PAS levels to 0-3, 1-3, 0-5, 1-5, 0-7, 1-7, 0-9, 1-9 and supply from 0-100% according to your preference. Whitehurst has several videos on various aspects of these settings. Some others have talked about this too. It's possible that the Engwe has some advanced settings disabled but I would encourage you to explore these solutions, if you want a solution. These are for Polarna but hopefully they are the same or similar for most of these cookie cutter brands.
@@StormyDog #2: the advanced settings to alter the charge levels is a mapping of voltage to %. Using voltage to determine charge level is lousy. The voltage changes when you put a load on it, and lithium based batteries have a very flat charge to voltage curve. The bike should sum the amps over time to determine the charge level. #3: I just tried the Engwe and it will do 833W when not pedaling, but drops to 566w when pedaling. I was unable to get more than 566W when pedaling with the different PAS modes.
Looks like a great way to get around the local area.
I was gung ho for this bike when you started the review, by the end I was like, no way would I own this bike. There is too little return for too much investment. Good review though Brian!
Yeah. It's a pretty cool bike, but it's not for everyone.
If not this bike…another. EBikes are absolutely the way to go for scouting/exercise/fun. With a throttle or not, 300 watts or a 1000 obtain one as soon as you can. As for the cost…you need a mindset that allows you to invest in yourself. I have three eBikes from 2016/16 that cost far more than this model so remember you can spend as much as you believe your health/the planet is worth to you. Remember to treat non eBikers with respect…they already scoff at those who ride with a motor and eBikers need no further disdain than we already have. See you on the road and trails.
EBikes never used to cost this little, especially for a turn-key, middle level quality rig. The returns are immense, the investment less than it has ever been.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 I was referring to the regen function of this bike. I really don't need a lecture from you about e-bikes.
As always, great review. The frame is very similar to the Lectric bike, except the rear (or central) suspension, isn't it?
Yes. It's similar to a few other ones as well :) I also like the mag wheels, hydraulic brakes and cool paint job.
It looks like you are set on the folding bikes. Not sure I like the small battery capacity and regen braking. I live in an area with no hills. I also like to be able to keep up more with traffic .. So my choice was the Ariel Rider Kepler. Goes 35 mph throttle or PAS. 20 ah 52V. Just is a big bike. I think the only thing in a folding E Bike right now that I would consider is the Wallke H6 with dual batteries. 👍
The bafang dpc18 display is compatible with the ep2-pro engwe bike
Maybe to RV living the EUCs are more minimalist, try it! Inmotion V11 could be very useful.
They got the new 16amp version know
I like your review but I wish you would show us how it folds up?
Great review ! i buy it today ..
Hope you enjoy it!
Hello Tito nice review. I would like to see you do something with the center shock. You are correct it is a bit stiff. I have a Polarna ebike which is just like yours.
Noted! I haven't adjusted it yet. It looks like it was installed with two washers on one side and none on the other. I saw someone else moved a washer over and lubed it up which made a big difference.
@@RVwithTito Interesting, what did they lube exactly? BTW, great review.
Brian: Nice looking ebike! Weighing in @ 70+ lbs? Yikes!
Imported from Poland….with all the supply chain issues, are you aware of any shipping delays?
Thanks for another informative and interesting video.
Good review thanks. 👍👍👍
You're welcome!
Nice review. You mention adjustments. What areas did you need to give extra attention to the adjustments to look out for?
I loosened up and lubed the rear suspension brackets. Flexes real nice now.
@@RVwithTito Thank you! Will give it try!
hello, thank you for sharing your opinion with us. Whats the torgue of this motor? i refer that because where i live has many uphills with large declinations and is difficult to ride. Is this bike proper in this case?Can i upgrade the motor to something more powerfull in terms of torgue?
So what happened to the Leletric ebike? We got the Lelectric and I enjoy riding it. It does very well going up hills. The only drawback is the uncomfortable stock seat. We did order the upgraded the seats and comfort package but they have a backlog on their accessories which is delaying us to go on longer trips. For the price and getting back on a bike after 20 or so years and having the pedal assist is great. This one you’re reviewing seems great and seems a bit more for adventurous riders. 😂 Thanks for the review. Hopefully we’ll see an update on your Winnebago Journey soon?
The Lectric 2.0s are great. Definitely an excellent entry level option. We love them. My wife is going to try the non step through (the one I use) for a while as I experiment with this one. The big seat is definitely worth it. In the shop working on inverter and battery setup as we speak👍. Look for an update soon.
Lelectric? Leletric?
@@mwilliamshs Lectric. 🙃
A close friend of mine bought an ebike with no traditional pedal transmission. BIG MISTAKE! His "electrisity" ran down 12 miles away, in the middle of nowhere, and he was forced to push his now-impotent bike the rest of the way home. I have nothing against ebikes, although I would never buy one (pedal bikes are much better for your health), but if you're thinking of buying one, make sure it also has a traditional pedal transmission, or you may find yourself walking a very long distance just to get back.
This is good info. Thanks 💯
Man you should have got the Wallke X3 Pro...an actual mountain ebike. This ENGWE looks like a knock off except with funny long long neck handlebars.
Yeah. This is definitely not a mountain ebike. Perfect for downhill commutes though 😉
Nice review can I can one in the UK ? we're can i order from please let me know thanks 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧
Excellent
It's kind of a toss up for me. One thing I did notice though and was not mentioned was the lack of castor in those handle bars and forks. When watching you ride it looked like you were doing alot of steering correction and was worried you would catch the edge of the pavement. Was it stabile and easy to balance/steer? From the video it didn't look like it was.
It's very stable and easy to control. I tend to ride right on the edge of the road. In that shot going up the steep hill, I was really pedaling hard and moving my body which causes me to move around more. Of course a 25" handle bar would give you a little more control especially on trails and I may upgrade to one. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Hello, this bicycle has lasted me 10 days of use and I am very careful. It is a real headache for them to send you the parts. I have already sent videos and photos, but they are not responsible. It is a Chinese company with a warehouse in the United States.
I challenge you to recharge this battery from flat using your legs. A pro rider can manage maybe 300 watts, someone riding a stationary bike might generate 100 watts if they are in good shape.
I'd really be interested to know how many miles are on these Ebike a year from now and what part of the garage they have been relegated to permanently sit?
I know one guy that rides 26 miles one way to work everyday, figure the mileage out he's been doing it for over a year
@@billwaller4094 are you saying he rides an electric bike 56 miles round trip? This is his primary transportation and he is able to charge the batteries at work?
@Ronald McDonaldtrump I think I may have stated this wrong. I meant that most people that I have seen with these on their RVs never use them. Or use them a few times but get tired of loading them up because they weigh too much.
Hi, thanks for the review. I've been looking at buying this bike but some reviews have mentioned that it's not great on power. I live in the Chiltern hills in the UK so power is crucial for an old f*** like me. You seem to think it's good o power so now I'm confused?
We got to get an e-bike!
They are pretty fun.
Hello, I don't know if you speak French, but I will allow myself to express myself in my native language. Know that I bought a PX6 bike almost 2 years ago, it arrived after a year exactly 11 months ago, apart from the fact that the first week of use the front brake disc screws loosened causing me to fall, which I then lost a pedal then the kickstand, it only worked well for 3 months in all and for all! For the past 8 months, I've been spending my time communicating through a translator with the after-sales service, waiting for spare parts that don't work and worse that aren't original, like the speedometer that doesn't work. 'I was sent back (see photo). In conclusion, after months of waiting to receive spare parts that did not work, I asked to operate the warranty of the bike and I was told that the bike is no longer guaranteed, whereas if we take the date of reception less than a year ago, without taking into account the months of waiting with a broken down bike, I am told today that the motor is out of order and I would have to pay again for a motor and mount it myself with an old speedometer (one is broken and on the other the cruise control does not work) Anyway to conclude I was blocked on the chat with a smiley, making fun of me what ..... It's a SHAME !!!!!! This is simply dishonest! I'm sick of such practice, I'm going to make RUclips videos and I'm going to burn it on Tic Toc this broken down bike that is useless! This is the modest opinion of a customer unhappy to have been had! Message for those interested: FLEE!!!!!
Thanks very much for the video.
I’d to know how to take care of the engine, like what kind of tools/oil I should use to maintain it function.
Thnx
Could you please help me about two questions ihv about engwe pro engine bike
1 ) is it legal to use this bike on uk road and countryside to daily commute
2} do we need license to ride this kind of bike like 750 w
What are the adjustments you made?
I bought this bike and I'm absolutely happy with it although it won't auto drive anymore ...does anyone know how to fix this problem?😊
Do you like this over the Lectric XP 2.0? What is the support like?
Does engine pro 2 have this regen feature?
Great review thanks! So when the regen feature doesn't kick in coasting downhill, do you feel more resistance on a flat road if you just pedal without any motor assistance vs a bike that doesn't have this resistive motor? Does it mean the hub motor has gears in it that may wear out over time?
The regen only adds drag when it is generating. The motor is no different than any other motor. There are no additional gears. The regen feature is rather useless.
Wish I could turn on when I brack or when I want an hill . Myself. 😮
Nice Ebike ..... wow we have the same ebike .... there are sooo many different COPIES LOL ..... I've had mine for 4 years now going on 5 years now .. only road it in the flood once and no issues what so ever !!! Have you tried riding it standing? Tell me what you think. I don't sit maybe 3x out of 4 years. WoW $1,700 got mine for about $700 :)
Interesting video. I was trying to figure out what the 3 different modes were for. I'm guessing Sport mode is just the most aggressive of the 3. My bike came with a different display. My gears keep slipping. They never adjusted them properly in the factory. Is it easy to do? There's also a slight ringing noise sometimes. Not sure if it's the kickstand or motor?
Yes. You can definitely adjust the gears yourself. I learned how and do it regularly now. Here's a good video tutorial ruclips.net/video/UkZxPIZ1ngY/видео.html
My guess is the ringing sound is the motor. That motor has a different sound to it. Enjoy!
@@RVwithTito it's the disc brake rattling of the pad. I don't think their alligned properly? Are the brake pads adjustable on these bikes?
I'm kind of afraid to touch anything incase I void the warranty. I just got the thing after a long wait. What a fun machine though 😎
what's the top speed and how can i get two batteries and can the bike fit on front of the bus ??
Great review! Do you happen to know if I could set an assistant speed limit (25km/h for example) ONLY for the normal mode but have it limitless on sport mode?
yes the limit of bike is 45km/h
Pretty cool bike!💯👌
Does the Polarna M4 also have regen?
Thanks for the review. From Where can I buy this E bike in Canada?
So it's been 6 months. How is the battery performance now? I want this bike so bad!!!
I'm tempted and really want one, im 6'5 and 225, am I too big for it?
It should work but you might be more comfortable on a longer fding bike like the Lectric XPremium (rvwithtito.com/lectric)
I noticed going up the hill you're battery was down to 1 bar?? And I've seen other reviews of this model doing much better and going over 29mph??
what i do with my ebike,if i want to do a long rid say 50 to 70 miles i take a spare battery in a case on my rack tied down 1 10ah battery connected and 1 10ah on my rear rack, that gets me the miles i want.
My concern is ‘the upper handle bars’ - they don’t look strong for off-road. So, you can peddle to maximise regeneration on a downhill run? Or peddling tells bike to stop regenerating? Or does that depend on mode?
You can certainly pedal while regenerating as long as you're going fast enough for it to engage.
I agree, it's a good bike
How much would it cost in the UK
And, does anyone have a link for a good deal for the bike in the UK
Cheers :)
Why are those handle bars so narrow and that column so high? Feels weird. That's why I'm still very undecided about it.
It sounds like the bike won't freely coast like a normal ebike when you stop pedaling on flat ground, you always need power assist. It also sounds like with power set to 0 that pedaling the bike with no assist is really difficult, having excess undesired drag. Given the minimal charge obtained for the fraction of time going downhills, that's why other ebike manufacturers don't include it, as the experience is poor for most people familiar with normal ebikes. Sound like a gimmick.
We recently wanted to ride our ebikes on Mackinac Island where ebikes are forbidden. However riding an ebike with the battery removed is acceptable, which worked for us. They were fine on flat ground. That Engwe ebike would not work well in that case, based on your experience with the bike.
It does coast just not as easily with the direct drive motor before pedaling is required.
@@RVwithTito check this out if you put a front hub motor and an additional battery you could kick the original motor in regen mode on flat surfaces and get a good recharge of original battery
I have the engine pro and I love it. Just a few questions about it.
A glaring issue I have with the bike is that the front steering assembly seems loose. I have tried to hold it together and tighten as much as I can by myself but it always seems to get looser as I ride. (around 150 miles on the bike so far.) The front assembly came with a white cap on the top of it, I unscrewed it and put in the handlebars, throwing away the white cap and screw. Was I supposed to reuse that screw?? Also what PSI do you keep the tires at? Any help will be much appreciated!
Yes, I think that screw is the problem. Fold the handlebars and if there is no screw with on a large washer going down the shaft, then that's your problem. Get an M6*30 bolt and a big washer. That will hold the handlebars down onto the shaft. Without it, you are using only the grip of the C clamp around the shaft. I can send a photo if you need it.
Yep, you needed the white cap and screw. They go inside the break area to hold everything TOGETHER.
On average how much time does the battery last
Are the wheels plastic or aluminum?
Quick question because this is my first electric bike: do your wheels "rub" and make noise too? in a normal bicycle, if you spin the wheel, it will spin for quite a long time. for me it loses speed almost immediately
AFAIK That's because of the regen motor, which has inherent magnetic drag vs non regen motors.
hi, do you know if this bike are the actual makers? I hear lots of resellers pretending its them, but this technology seems unique from most bikes. Anyway to trick the bike its going down hill in case the economy crashes and no other way to charge? Visually it seems it charges quick. I hope it spends not as fast.