I just received my engine 750 pro. Great review of this bike. Learned a few new features about this bike I did not know. I also received the wrong owners manual. I am also disappointed with the power of the 750 motor and the throttle issues mentioned in your video. However, with that said the build quality is solid and robust and l like the features this bike comes with. I am a big guy at 6'3 - 230lbs and the suspension works great for me. I am a cruiser on the trails and not a speed freak and 22 mph max is fine for me. I will however, be changing out the seat to a cloud 9 cruiser. Just recently I took a 34 mile round trip and had about 20 % power left on the battery. The re-gen is great as I have a lot of hilly country I drive through as well. The Speed reduction from re-gen slows me down just perfect without using brakes. I wish service was more responsive as they have not returned any questions I have asked. All in all, I like the bike and hopefully it will continue to be trouble free
@@olcaybolat3452 So far so good. I have 300+ miles on the bike. I really like the robust quality build of the bike. The dual suspension has worked out great for me with the smooth ride quality. I did get a new seat that fits me better. The regen feature does work as I live in a hilly area and have been able get about 1mile more when using it with regen. For those who want more down hill speed you can simply put it in speed setting 2 or above to disengage the regen feature and get up to 28mph + and peddle in high gear. The motor is a 500w nominal and 750w max. I have found it be good enough for me as I am more of a cruiser. Love the ease of use for the main color screen. The hydraulic brakes are a plus for stopping power. I do get some swealing from the front brake pads when applying hard braking so I will working to find out why. Shifting is smooth and precise and tires are wearing better then expected. Battery is working as expected even in the cold weather with slightly less range. I do wish they would have put a larger capacity battery for a bit more range but all in all this has been a good experience for me. This summer I will be getting my wife one and taking them with us on our RV trips to really enhance our biking fun.
@@olcaybolat3452 i noticed mine that i recieved yesterday comes with a new updated display and power button switch is different too. Im still trying to figure out how to switch kmh to mph. i also cant tell on this new display layout if regen is working in pas 0-1. i also noticed if you hold down the power button along with the ""i"" button when powering up you get a password screen i assume would let you in to change settings but i dont know what the password would be.
Jeremiah ~ I have a Polarna M4 and it is very similar to the Engwe Engine Pro 750W. Both of these e-bike's controllers have a ton of adjustable settings that will effect their performance. I have ridden over 1,000 miles since I got my Polarna 3 months ago. I have made a number of setting changes from the factory defaults which has improved performance. In this video you have concerns about the up hill performance. I use both the throttle and the PAS modes together, this has several advances over using each of them independently. I use the throttle somewhat like an accelerator in conjunction with the PAS modes. To get the full advantage of the throttle while attacking a hill, continue to pedal while using maximum throttle. In my normal riding, I use full throttle until the cruise control engages and continue to pedal to maintain full current in that PAS mode. Note that I have my controller PAS settings for 0-9 (9 PAS modes). Once you have the cruise control locked in, let's say PAS Mode 3, while the cruise control is still locked in PAS Mode 3, you can advance the PAS modes up to a higher level (PAS modes 4 thru 9), and the e-bike will advance to the maximum current level in that PAS Mode. With the cruise control locked in, and still continuously pedaling, it will take about 3 to 4 seconds for the higher PAS modes to kick in. Using PAS modes only, I was disappointed with the acceleration/performance of the Polarna when I first got it. But, after I figured out how to use the throttle in conjunction with the PAS modes, I am pleased with its performance now. 👍
Thank you for the detailed information Sonny and great to hear from you. Wow you put on a lot of miles in the past 3 months! My biggest problem is you only get full power 800+watts with just the throttle but as soon as you start pedaling even with the throttle fully held down it cuts the power output to around 550 watts as soon as you stop pedaling the power comes back. I tried all different settings but nothing seemed to change that.
@@JeremiahMcintosh ~ Even though the Polarna and Engine Pro have controller LCD screens and functions that look NEARLY identical, I know that the controllers may behave (programmed) differently. I know that I get full current with the Polarna in PAS mode only . . . in PAS Mode 9 around 950 watts. Have you adjusted the PAS mode settings? My Polarna came with the highest PAS modes set at 90%. I changed that setting to 100% for maximum current output. The top speed is a tad above 28 mph (level, no wind). The top speed seems to be controlled by current and does not have a speed limit cut off. Going down hill, the motor will continue to put out power well pass 30 mph. I've never felt it cutting off. It only has an 18 amp controller and if it had a 24 amp controller, I feel that it would easily do 30+ mph on a level surface.
Sounds like you have more adjustable settings in your bike. You can see at about 17:40 seconds I have Pas 5 set to 100%. Do you have an ACF setting in yours? I couldn’t figure out what that Was in mine?
@@JeremiahMcintosh ~ My Polarna does not have Kinetic Energy Recovery. But the Yamee Fat Bear 750S does. In the manual for the Fat Bear, the controller display, in "Advanced Settings", between "Slow Start" and "CRU", there is "SHD" which has 2 settings 0 and 50. The 0 turns the KER off and the 50 turns the KER on. My guest is that the Engine Pro's controller display, "ACF" does the same as the Fat Bear's "SHD", it turns the Kinetic Energy Recovery on and off. As for the initials "ACF" and "SHD", I have no clue, must be a China thing . . . lost in translation, lol.
From what I understand that is the Bafang system. It uses similar protocol as Key Display. Many different bikes have a similar layout (Himiway, Sondors, Ride 1up, Biria). There is a way with them to tie as well as untie the throttle with the PAS level (I have done it before on a Biria which uses the KeyDisp 500). The problem is on the more advanced models that use plain English in the sub menu instead of code, it might be difficult to find. Your top speed yes is controlled by the % of output that the controller is set at, however you also have the ability to change your total Amp discharge. Most 48V batteries are good for more amps than the controller is set at for default. From a dead stop if you nail the throttle and don't have throttle restrictions, you should see in the neighborhood of 1000w from a dead stop.
This is the best review i ve seen mate. Congrats. I am an owner of the same bike. Great to see the sweezing issue as well at 26 minute. I had done exactly the same thing. My bike came with deffective controller and motor. Morever allen screws of the rear part tend to become loose so i need to check again and again. Please change as well the part of the mudguard's which connect to the bike! It is dangerous since it is of low quality. Mine broke both and i crashed when front mudguard stopped the bike violently. If they change some things this bike can become a greatvalue for money bike.
The theory of regenerative amp hours is 👏 However if you need to climb hills a much bigger wattage than 500 needs to be added by Engwe. 1,500 watts in the rear wheel, or 750 in each wheel would allow one to climb and not have to peddle hard while getting the benefits of regen, and you know the purpose one buys an e-bike to make peddling a lot easier with peddle assist along with it extending your battery helping the motor along.
There is a guy in my town who has one. He added 1000w front motor and second battery. Basically as you were saying, he uses the front motor and battery to fully regenerate the factory one. Gets about 100 miles out of it.
@@BoardwalkBullies The battery is the bigger issue than is the power more often. However the motor is an issue when it is widely recognized as not being enough with only having 500watts for hill climbing. Why companies with fat tires, or especially heavy bikes stay with the 500watts is disappointing. Especially when we know that hub motors are relatively inexpensive as compares to mid drives with equal wattage. That guy is getting to enjoy what many companies advertise, but rarely do and that is the amount of miles one is going to get often under even ideal conditions.
@@buffalomind6838 believe it or not, it's really neither when it comes to 48v. It's the controller that is the limiting factor. Most manufacturers rate their motors at "500w" mainly to make them 50 state legal. Usually your nominal cruise usage is that or less anyway unless you just don't pedal at all. Most 48v ebike batteries nowadays are 14ah. If you do the math on that from the nominal standpoint (v * a =w) then you get 48 * (20 to 32) = a nominal peak watt output of 960 to 1536 nominal watts depending on what type of (meaning how expensive) of an 18650 cell you have in your battery pack. But as you can see on the low end you are still in the 1000w range and that's nominal. Peak you start out at 54.6v (redo the math on that one). So the motors are usually always over clocked regardless of their rating. The limiting factor for performance 9 out of 10 times is the controller. Either it restricts peak amp discharge (most default at 15a) or they severely regulate power delivery upon acceleration and most even still don't allow full amp discharge even if you can adjust it in settings (many won't let you set higher than 20 to 25a). Getting to know your controller will make a night and day difference in how you perceive your bikes performance. I had a guy who lives in my town contact me a few months ago. He had just recently bought a 48v 10.5ah folding bike used from a friend, his friend had also bought it from another friend. The reason why it kept changing hands was because they thought it was too slow and they got ripped off. The bike used the M2 system (same manufacturer as the M5, very similar functionality). They tried everything, removing the speed limiter, adding PAS levels, swapping batteries, the bike could reach maybe 22mph but with much pedaling needed. Turned out his factory default settings for Amp discharge is 13. So he was getting a whopping 624w out of his system. We turned it up to the max (20a) and BOOM! Instant 27mph and another satisfied customer.
@@BoardwalkBullies thanks for the info. One thing I am aware of is the controller being able to output more than what you are currently getting, but I wonder if doing that will severely shorten the other components as they are making them do more than what they were rated to do. Also the warranty does specifically say they will not cover the damaged item if you modify the bike in that way.
@@buffalomind6838 as with most things, use your discretion when you use them. Just because your corvette has 700hp doesn't mean it's meant to see 7000 rpm 50 times a day 😉 I noticed with my Biria (which I sold earlier this year) with a lot of starting and stopping when it was totally unmolested, the wiring to the battery between the controller would get REALLY hot. I put 2300 miles on the bike before selling, and nothing melted or anything and bike still rode like new but it did make me conscious of that to keep an eye on it anyway. Believe it or not, that bike actually does better when you optimize the settings as far as longevity (I have a video on my channel about that) the reason for that is that they don't really pay attention to that level of detail sometimes. The manufacturer buys the system as is and just slaps it on the bike.
Thats the plus that the Lectric Xp has as far as throttle, its at max no matter what level you select for PAS. So if you need to get out of the way of something quick and are at a low PAS level setting like 1 or 2, just use throttle and quickly speed up to max speed.
Thanks for the review we was going to get one but not any more Significantly to slow we're going to look at the mate x or just Stick to the scooters thank you 👍 😊.
Very complete review. It looks like ENGWE offers an upgraded battery now with 16 Ah. I can't tell if that is stock. I would like to see a folded view of the width or thickness of the bike as I have a small trunk opening. Not sure what the region would offer in flatter areas. I hope ENGWE makes some adjustments based on your recommendations. It would be interesting to see how this bike compares in power with the Lectric XPremium etc. Thanks!
Absolutely great providing you aren’t being followed for some reason. Like you know too much or something. I got more out of my moped years ago. Why are they stunting the output, it stunts the flow and messes up the continuity of running a straight forward motion. We all going to end up dead.
Does this bike not have an ECO/SPORT mode?? If you long press the + button for about 5 seconds. Not sure if that is capable on this bike, maybe worth a try??
How's the exchange ratio between the pedaling and using throttle? I had to change the flywheel to an 11 tooth on my ep2-pro to better match the speed and pedaling.
Seems like this bike, with a few tweaks, could be much better as far as top speeds and PAS arrangement working with wattage.. In my opinion, a 28 mph PAS is mandatory with a 750 watt motor. Unlocked 25mph minimum for throttle only.
I’m in the market for a new e-bike. I’m really having a hard time deciding what e-bike to get. This made my growing list of options. Eventually I’ll narrow my list down then I’ll agonize which e-bike on my short list to get. A lot of e-bikes have elements I love but I have yet to find an e-bike that has every option I like. I’ll eventually have to compromise.
Awesome review video Jeremiah! Nobody else does any review videos nearly as comprehensive as you do! Does anyone know if the ENGWE guys have already changed and fixed the problem with Engine power decreasing uphill when pedaling? Thx
Thank you Herbert. I have mentioned it to them but not sure if it has been changed on any of the newer models. Maybe someone that has gotten one recently can help answer that.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks again Jeremiah for your fast response (as usual). However, many (if not to say most) of the e bike companies hugely lack on most things with respect to information of their bikes that actually matters for someone in order to decide what bike might be the right fit for them, Most companies don't really tell you the nominal continous watt power and the peak power. They simply mislead with peak power only. Information of motor torque is rarely seen and seems to be luxury for some reason. Propably 1/3 of companies don't even bother to to post the bike measurements like handlebar height, saddle height, overall lenght etc. But hey, who am I to crticise ................. pretty obvious people are buying anyways, right. I am the best example, because after looking most bike reviews you ever did, I noticed neither bike is without some little quirks and flaws and far from perfect. That being said, I just ordered the Engwe EP 2 - PRO and I am hoping that maybe over the months since your initial review the company might have made some upgrades or changes towards the better. If not, at least the damage to my wallet is with this bike less frustrating in comparison to others that cost 50 to 80 % more. LOL. Thank you
Great video.Wished this model had the brake light as well. I have also seen variations from the way they are shipped. Some are pretty much assembled, yet others you have to put the front tire, fenders, tail lights. How does one know how yours is shipped?
You can try reset your tire settings First set tires back to 16inch then hit the throttle, then set the tires back to 22inch and hit the the throttle again see if that works 👍
An 18 amp controller seems about right. 48 volt battery X 18 amps = 864 watts. Assuming your display is right the math works out that the bike does have an 18 amp controller.
Did the suspension on mine today, there are no recessed area on the suspension arm, I guess it’s worn on yours, I’ve only had mine 11 days, I put washers both sides, plenty of suspension travel now 👍
@@JeremiahMcintosh hmm I wonder how it got worn into a recess? I’ve been using mine for 11 days, only “fixed” the suspension over tightening/lube job this morning. All the tinkering required, that really should have been caught by quality control, but it’s still one of the best eBikes out there. Changed the handlebars/stem for BMX riser bars, so much better for looks and handling.
If you can only power up to the level you are at, this bike is a no for me. It the reason why I also passed on the Lectric line of bikes. I dont have this limitation on my RAD bike and I use this function all the time. You need this not only for hills but also when you have to cross traffic etc.
If you are are in level 5 you have full power. I bought one about 2 years ago. It is pretty fast. Had it up to 33 mph pedal assist. You can use throttle only but don't use throttle from dead stop. It is hard on the motor.
Hey great video, I have a question what settings do you have on your engine engwe pro I recently got mine but I can only top speed of 22mph even with the wheel up it won’t go pass 22mph. Any chance I can share the settings on yours. Thanks
It depends what you’re looking for in a bike. If you have a Lotta hills the regen braking is nice if not it’s not needed. The only thing I thought was weird was the way it limited power up hills when pedaling. Not sure if they changed it in recent models or not.
@@JeremiahMcintosh i see, i live in the Netherlands so hills are nowhere to be found. If the motor is the same than i quess the cheaper Ep2 is a good choice. Was hoping for a real nominal 750Watt in the Engine with peak power of 1000W but i quess thats not the case. The 16 Ah battery and hydraulic brakes are something to consider though with a bike with this speed and weight. Thanks for your input👍
@@JeremiahMcintosh that's weird because in ther website the show same engine for both. Maybe you got the previous version with weaker motor. Now, the EP2 pro has a 750w with 950 peak
@@JeremiahMcintosh Engwe motors have only 55 Nm torque. That's why in your uphill tests they couldn't make it. They should use quality Bafang motors not only for reliability but also for more torque, Bafang has 70 Nm torque in a 750w motor.
Do I need to unlock it in order attain the full speed? If yes, how to unlock it? I live in the UK. I know that many ebikes shipped to UK are limited to around 15 mph (25 km/h) in locked mode.
I noticed that you had your wheel size set to 22 inch. I thought these were 20 inch wheels? I am still learning to adjust the different settings on my Engwe Engine Pro
Can anyone tell me how to ride the bike without pedal assist at all, my bike will not any lower than 1, I know if it's on 0 it won't assist but I can't get it to 0
Jeremiah, I know this is off topic but, it's important to an old man who's a fan of your vids. Just bought a BPMimports bike used. It's a F-15RS with a 750 watt motor. The controller has been replaced and the 'manual' the guy emailed me never mentions this model and refers to the bike as a "Pedego" but many models and nothing that looks just like my bike. Any idea as to what I just got myself into?
hello this is the 12.8ha or 16ha version because on the official website there is this technical note Note: whose battery is 16ah and does not have the I-ERS power supply regeneration, do you recommend 12ha or 16ha?
@@thecobratony86 yes it doesn’t, but that’s a good thing bc it’s only really helpful if u live somewhere where there are really steep hills, otherwise it kinda useless, like for me. I live in the Netherlands, it’s the flattest country in the world and our highest hill is like 40 meters high.
Regen works but it is utterly useless for anyone who does not ride steep hills. In fact, it reduces coasting performance in gentle hills that are not steep enough to regenerate.
Hello, I been thinking about buying the Engwe engine pro upgraded version with 16Ah battery, upgraded controller and display. My concern is the I-ERS Regeneration. Engwe came out with a model WITHOUT Regeneration but I believe is only available in Europe. My question is, if you had the choice to buy with or without Regeneration, which one would you buy? Also, do you know if the battery runs out and you have to operate the bike like a "normal" bike. It will feel heavier because of the Regeneration? Please reply, I will like to know your opinion, Thank you
If you have a lot of long hills in your area then I would say the regeneration feature would be great to have, not so much for recharging the battery but for less braking going down the hills because it is nice how it slows the bike down. As far as it being harder to pedal when the motor is off I haven’t really noticed much difference than from my other bikes but any electric bike like this is going to be somewhat hard to pedal with no battery.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hello Jeremiah, I really appreciate your opinion, I'm going to wait for the upgraded version without Regeneration, I was told by Engwe that the new upgraded bikes are going to be available next week, maybe you can get in touch with them and get an upgraded bike so you can make a comparison video.
You may have a loose connection on the display or at the controller. I would unplug all your connections and plug them back in making sure not to bend any of the pins. I would also check voltage on your battery and make sure it is getting a good connection.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks for the reply. There aren't any loose connections, the bike is relatively new and has about 83 miles. The incident occurred when I switched from level assist 5 to 0 in a downhill, regenerative braking kicked in and my guess is that it might have shocked either the battery, the controller or the computer. The battery was 75% full, and after the incident, I charged it to check its responsiveness; it charged for 2 hours then the charger turned green as an indication that it was full.
We made a purchase with the company, the product was defective and was returned. The company had promised to refund the payment amount and refuses to carry out the refund based on untrue claims. I do not recommend negotiating with such a company or even purchasing products from the Engwe brand as it has poor quality and many defects.
damn, I see your arm fully extended to reach the handle bar. Ergonomics are not that good. That handle bar is for scooters, not for bikes. They should improve handle bars asap in order to adjust not only height but also depth. In my case, I like to ride with my arms flexed, I mean, I like the handle bar quite near towards me.
This e-bike is manufactured by Yanze electric bike company in China. It’s just rebranded by so called “e-bike” stores. Do yourself a huge favour and contact them directly. It will save you $1000 easily.
Hi, I was about to buy this bike until I saw the problem with the PAS only reaching 500w uphill. I live in the Chilterns so hills everywhere! . . . which is why I want an Ebike. Was the problem resolved does anyone know?
@@JeremiahMcintoshI bought the bike . . it readily jumps to 1000w when needed pedalling up hills so maybe your bike had a problem. I have to say that your review put me off buying the bike for quite a while but I'm very glad that I took the plunge . . . it's brilliant! I hope other folks weren't put off as well cos that would be a shame.
Thank you for your feedback hopefully They fixed the issue after my recommendation to them. When you were getting 1000 watts were you peddling also or just using throttle?
@@JeremiahMcintosh I have maybe an earlier manufacture of the Engine 750 Pro and the rear light is a bit different and does light up brighter when I brake. No turn signals.
Have you tried pressing the "I" button? It changes the mode Eco normal and sport mode it should give you full power while pedaling. Found out from another RUclipsr
I must have turned away for a moment while I was making food💀 I hope they fix that issue. That defeats the purpose of pas as you mentioned going up hills! To most it'll be a deal breaker
I really like this bike but all the people saying about the throttle being a bit lacking I think it's more of a European bike where the laws are different for throttle and the speed you can go, alot less than in America
The site lists mechanical disc brakes, not hydraulic. I can see in your video that your bike has hydraulic discs; not sure about what it shows on their website.
@Forever Young Thanks. I looked hard at one of the photos and I thought I saw an oil reservoir so I figured the odds were that the bike had hydraulic discs. The bigger issue, however, is what the OP pointed out -- that the throttle on demand/throttle override doesn't work while pedaling, and that's a total deal breaker for me.
It is totally rubbish. After one month the motor broke down and had failure, terrible clutching problem and scary sounds coming from motor, barely go or not after then it started to not showing the speed. More to the point the part connecting from frame to with rear side almost about split with each other. Front and rear frame are shaking terribly now from the middle and it is puting my life in danger. I took all the videos and sent them but they can not accept my claims. If they don’t refund I will upload all the videos about the bike failures. When someone see those videos it will be really surprised. Fallaciously advertising, terrible build and design quality. We are two people having the same bike and experiencing same issues. A big dissapointment, what a shame!
beware engwe sent me defective x26 with stuck batt engwes fix was to tell me to pry out batt with screwdriver and sand a brand new ebike 🤪🤯 or to take to shop pay $300 and wait for a check. engwe also asked me to lie via email.
🤔 your bike is very slow man. I get 55km/h fully charge with mine engwe ep-2 pro and low battery I get 41km/h. I so wanted the one in this video but nah the one I have seem to have exactly what like and need.
@@JeremiahMcintosh have you try overvolting it? Dont know if its even possible but ive seen videos of people claiming that it helps the bikes go faster(not engwe bikes though). I have to say though that I've tried it with mine ep2 Pro and it didn't really helped but I'm wondering since the engine pro is slower than ep2 Pro. Would be a games changer if possible. Imo.
I just can't stop laughing about all of these e-bikes THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE SAME WITH ALL THE SAME PARTS. It really is true people are just being mental men starting their little company buying from the same manufacturers jacking up the price and selling it to people. It's like every review is the same exact review with the same exact bike with very slight differences. It's just crazy.. AND EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO START NEW COMPANIES DOING THE SAME THING. WITH ALL THESE WEIRD NAMES. I just can't 🤣
I just received my engine 750 pro. Great review of this bike. Learned a few new features about this bike I did not know. I also received the wrong owners manual. I am also disappointed with the power of the 750 motor and the throttle issues mentioned in your video. However, with that said the build quality is solid and robust and l like the features this bike comes with. I am a big guy at 6'3 - 230lbs and the suspension works great for me. I am a cruiser on the trails and not a speed freak and 22 mph max is fine for me. I will however, be changing out the seat to a cloud 9 cruiser. Just recently I took a 34 mile round trip and had about 20 % power left on the battery. The re-gen is great as I have a lot of hilly country I drive through as well. The Speed reduction from re-gen slows me down just perfect without using brakes. I wish service was more responsive as they have not returned any questions I have asked. All in all, I like the bike and hopefully it will continue to be trouble free
Hello Kurt, How is everything after 4 months using engine 750 pro ?
@@olcaybolat3452 So far so good. I have 300+ miles on the bike. I really like the robust quality build of the bike. The dual suspension has worked out great for me with the smooth ride quality. I did get a new seat that fits me better. The regen feature does work as I live in a hilly area and have been able get about 1mile more when using it with regen. For those who want more down hill speed you can simply put it in speed setting 2 or above to disengage the regen feature and get up to 28mph + and peddle in high gear. The motor is a 500w nominal and 750w max. I have found it be good enough for me as I am more of a cruiser. Love the ease of use for the main color screen. The hydraulic brakes are a plus for stopping power. I do get some swealing from the front brake pads when applying hard braking so I will working to find out why. Shifting is smooth and precise and tires are wearing better then expected. Battery is working as expected even in the cold weather with slightly less range. I do wish they would have put a larger capacity battery for a bit more range but all in all this has been a good experience for me. This summer I will be getting my wife one and taking them with us on our RV trips to really enhance our biking fun.
@@kurtdarrow1959 Thanks a lot ! I appreciate it. Enjoy your rides :)
@@olcaybolat3452 i noticed mine that i recieved yesterday comes with a new updated display and power button switch is different too. Im still trying to figure out how to switch kmh to mph. i also cant tell on this new display layout if regen is working in pas 0-1. i also noticed if you hold down the power button along with the ""i"" button when powering up you get a password screen i assume would let you in to change settings but i dont know what the password would be.
Are the handle bars really faux leather?
Finally someone making video on ebikes that speak english 🙌
Absolutely the best ebike review I've seen to date. This bike is AWESOME. Ticks alot of boxes.its on my list for 2022.
The best review on YT, abut this e-bike 👍👍👍.
Jeremiah ~ I have a Polarna M4 and it is very similar to the Engwe Engine Pro 750W. Both of these e-bike's controllers have a ton of adjustable settings that will effect their performance. I have ridden over 1,000 miles since I got my Polarna 3 months ago. I have made a number of setting changes from the factory defaults which has improved performance.
In this video you have concerns about the up hill performance. I use both the throttle and the PAS modes together, this has several advances over using each of them independently. I use the throttle somewhat like an accelerator in conjunction with the PAS modes. To get the full advantage of the throttle while attacking a hill, continue to pedal while using maximum throttle.
In my normal riding, I use full throttle until the cruise control engages and continue to pedal to maintain full current in that PAS mode. Note that I have my controller PAS settings for 0-9 (9 PAS modes). Once you have the cruise control locked in, let's say PAS Mode 3, while the cruise control is still locked in PAS Mode 3, you can advance the PAS modes up to a higher level (PAS modes 4 thru 9), and the e-bike will advance to the maximum current level in that PAS Mode. With the cruise control locked in, and still continuously pedaling, it will take about 3 to 4 seconds for the higher PAS modes to kick in.
Using PAS modes only, I was disappointed with the acceleration/performance of the Polarna when I first got it. But, after I figured out how to use the throttle in conjunction with the PAS modes, I am pleased with its performance now. 👍
Thank you for the detailed information Sonny and great to hear from you. Wow you put on a lot of miles in the past 3 months!
My biggest problem is you only get full power 800+watts with just the throttle but as soon as you start pedaling even with the throttle fully held down it cuts the power output to around 550 watts as soon as you stop pedaling the power comes back. I tried all different settings but nothing seemed to change that.
@@JeremiahMcintosh ~ Even though the Polarna and Engine Pro have controller LCD screens and functions that look NEARLY identical, I know that the controllers may behave (programmed) differently. I know that I get full current with the Polarna in PAS mode only . . . in PAS Mode 9 around 950 watts. Have you adjusted the PAS mode settings? My Polarna came with the highest PAS modes set at 90%. I changed that setting to 100% for maximum current output. The top speed is a tad above 28 mph (level, no wind). The top speed seems to be controlled by current and does not have a speed limit cut off. Going down hill, the motor will continue to put out power well pass 30 mph. I've never felt it cutting off. It only has an 18 amp controller and if it had a 24 amp controller, I feel that it would easily do 30+ mph on a level surface.
Sounds like you have more adjustable settings in your bike. You can see at about 17:40 seconds I have Pas 5 set to 100%. Do you have an ACF setting in yours? I couldn’t figure out what that Was in mine?
@@JeremiahMcintosh ~ My Polarna does not have Kinetic Energy Recovery. But the Yamee Fat Bear 750S does. In the manual for the Fat Bear, the controller display, in "Advanced Settings", between "Slow Start" and "CRU", there is "SHD" which has 2 settings 0 and 50. The 0 turns the KER off and the 50 turns the KER on. My guest is that the Engine Pro's controller display, "ACF" does the same as the Fat Bear's "SHD", it turns the Kinetic Energy Recovery on and off. As for the initials "ACF" and "SHD", I have no clue, must be a China thing . . . lost in translation, lol.
From what I understand that is the Bafang system. It uses similar protocol as Key Display. Many different bikes have a similar layout (Himiway, Sondors, Ride 1up, Biria). There is a way with them to tie as well as untie the throttle with the PAS level (I have done it before on a Biria which uses the KeyDisp 500). The problem is on the more advanced models that use plain English in the sub menu instead of code, it might be difficult to find. Your top speed yes is controlled by the % of output that the controller is set at, however you also have the ability to change your total Amp discharge. Most 48V batteries are good for more amps than the controller is set at for default. From a dead stop if you nail the throttle and don't have throttle restrictions, you should see in the neighborhood of 1000w from a dead stop.
it puts around 12 amps back in the battery at high regen tested with an amp meter on my bike
This is the best review i ve seen mate. Congrats. I am an owner of the same bike. Great to see the sweezing issue as well at 26 minute. I had done exactly the same thing. My bike came with deffective controller and motor. Morever allen screws of the rear part tend to become loose so i need to check again and again. Please change as well the part of the mudguard's which connect to the bike! It is dangerous since it is of low quality. Mine broke both and i crashed when front mudguard stopped the bike violently. If they change some things this bike can become a greatvalue for money bike.
Did you connect front mudguard right ✅
sweezing?
Loctite youse it
The theory of regenerative amp hours is 👏 However if you need to climb hills a much bigger wattage than 500 needs to be added by Engwe. 1,500 watts in the rear wheel, or 750 in each wheel would allow one to climb and not have to peddle hard while getting the benefits of regen, and you know the purpose one buys an e-bike to make peddling a lot easier with peddle assist along with it extending your battery helping the motor along.
There is a guy in my town who has one. He added 1000w front motor and second battery. Basically as you were saying, he uses the front motor and battery to fully regenerate the factory one. Gets about 100 miles out of it.
@@BoardwalkBullies The battery is the bigger issue than is the power more often. However the motor is an issue when it is widely recognized as not being enough with only having 500watts for hill climbing. Why companies with fat tires, or especially heavy bikes stay with the 500watts is disappointing. Especially when we know that hub motors are relatively inexpensive as compares to mid drives with equal wattage.
That guy is getting to enjoy what many companies advertise, but rarely do and that is the amount of miles one is going to get often under even ideal conditions.
@@buffalomind6838 believe it or not, it's really neither when it comes to 48v. It's the controller that is the limiting factor. Most manufacturers rate their motors at "500w" mainly to make them 50 state legal. Usually your nominal cruise usage is that or less anyway unless you just don't pedal at all. Most 48v ebike batteries nowadays are 14ah. If you do the math on that from the nominal standpoint (v * a =w) then you get 48 * (20 to 32) = a nominal peak watt output of 960 to 1536 nominal watts depending on what type of (meaning how expensive) of an 18650 cell you have in your battery pack. But as you can see on the low end you are still in the 1000w range and that's nominal. Peak you start out at 54.6v (redo the math on that one). So the motors are usually always over clocked regardless of their rating. The limiting factor for performance 9 out of 10 times is the controller. Either it restricts peak amp discharge (most default at 15a) or they severely regulate power delivery upon acceleration and most even still don't allow full amp discharge even if you can adjust it in settings (many won't let you set higher than 20 to 25a). Getting to know your controller will make a night and day difference in how you perceive your bikes performance. I had a guy who lives in my town contact me a few months ago. He had just recently bought a 48v 10.5ah folding bike used from a friend, his friend had also bought it from another friend. The reason why it kept changing hands was because they thought it was too slow and they got ripped off. The bike used the M2 system (same manufacturer as the M5, very similar functionality). They tried everything, removing the speed limiter, adding PAS levels, swapping batteries, the bike could reach maybe 22mph but with much pedaling needed. Turned out his factory default settings for Amp discharge is 13. So he was getting a whopping 624w out of his system. We turned it up to the max (20a) and BOOM! Instant 27mph and another satisfied customer.
@@BoardwalkBullies thanks for the info. One thing I am aware of is the controller being able to output more than what you are currently getting, but I wonder if doing that will severely shorten the other components as they are making them do more than what they were rated to do. Also the warranty does specifically say they will not cover the damaged item if you modify the bike in that way.
@@buffalomind6838 as with most things, use your discretion when you use them. Just because your corvette has 700hp doesn't mean it's meant to see 7000 rpm 50 times a day 😉 I noticed with my Biria (which I sold earlier this year) with a lot of starting and stopping when it was totally unmolested, the wiring to the battery between the controller would get REALLY hot. I put 2300 miles on the bike before selling, and nothing melted or anything and bike still rode like new but it did make me conscious of that to keep an eye on it anyway. Believe it or not, that bike actually does better when you optimize the settings as far as longevity (I have a video on my channel about that) the reason for that is that they don't really pay attention to that level of detail sometimes. The manufacturer buys the system as is and just slaps it on the bike.
It is a brake light (at least it is now, on the latest versions👍), great tip on the suspension, will be sorting mine tomorrow 👍
A really honest review. I love it. Keep up the good work.
Thank You Sheldon I appreciate that!
Thats the plus that the Lectric Xp has as far as throttle, its at max no matter what level you select for PAS. So if you need to get out of the way of something quick and are at a low PAS level setting like 1 or 2, just use throttle and quickly speed up to max speed.
Sure but you ain’t making it up any hills!
@@chilln712 I agree on that.
@@inegma29it’s unfortunate because it looks like a great bike for my 12yr old but we have lots of hills so it’s out of the question.
@@chilln712 I have 2 750watt ebikes(one being the engine pro) and 2 XP's 500watt. The 750watt bikes have no problem on hills.
Thanks for the review we was going to get one but not any more Significantly to slow we're going to look at the mate x or just Stick to the scooters thank you 👍 😊.
Very complete review. It looks like ENGWE offers an upgraded battery now with 16 Ah. I can't tell if that is stock. I would like to see a folded view of the width or thickness of the bike as I have a small trunk opening. Not sure what the region would offer in flatter areas. I hope ENGWE makes some adjustments based on your recommendations. It would be interesting to see how this bike compares in power with the Lectric XPremium etc. Thanks!
Very comprehensive and professional review. Thank you for that.
Thank You! I appreciate that!
Excellent review! I want to see the back light at night :)
Absolutely great providing you aren’t being followed for some reason. Like you know too much or something. I got more out of my moped years ago. Why are they stunting the output, it stunts the flow and messes up the continuity of running a straight forward motion.
We all going to end up dead.
Go in to your settings I get 36 mph on my one
Good review. Still trying to figure out which EBike I want and need.😎👍🏼
Hopefully all my videos will help you make the right choice!
Does this bike not have an ECO/SPORT mode?? If you long press the + button for about 5 seconds. Not sure if that is capable on this bike, maybe worth a try??
Awesome review!!!
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How's the exchange ratio between the pedaling and using throttle? I had to change the flywheel to an 11 tooth on my ep2-pro to better match the speed and pedaling.
Seems like this bike, with a few tweaks, could be much better as far as top speeds and PAS arrangement working with wattage.. In my opinion, a 28 mph PAS is mandatory with a 750 watt motor. Unlocked 25mph minimum for throttle only.
Excellent review my friend.
You can change the power output for each level.
I’m in the market for a new e-bike. I’m really having a hard time deciding what e-bike to get. This made my growing list of options. Eventually I’ll narrow my list down then I’ll agonize which e-bike on my short list to get. A lot of e-bikes have elements I love but I have yet to find an e-bike that has every option I like. I’ll eventually have to compromise.
Two years later - would you choose this Engwe Engine Pro or Lectric XP 3.0 ?
Great review.
Love the review on this bike. What tire pressure is recommended for this 20 x 4 inch tires?
You could try some nylon washers underneath the rear suspension bolts
On their Amazon page they list the torque at 35 NM.
Have you tested any of your folding bike batteries to see if they are interchangeable?
Yes I have. They are interchangeable with the Lectric Xp, Geleisen TT-S5, and ENGWE Ep2 Pro.
The Lectric seems like a much better bike overall
It does seem like other companies are getting it wrong doesn't it? Weird that they almost handicap the bikes.
my Engwe engine pro hit 52 kilometer with pedal assist in even trail means 32 miles
Good informative video Jeremiah.
Thank You
Awesome review video Jeremiah! Nobody else does any review videos nearly as comprehensive as you do! Does anyone know if the ENGWE guys have already changed and fixed the problem with Engine power decreasing uphill when pedaling? Thx
Thank you Herbert. I have mentioned it to them but not sure if it has been changed on any of the newer models. Maybe someone that has gotten one recently can help answer that.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks again Jeremiah for your fast response (as usual). However, many (if not to say most) of the e bike companies hugely lack on most things with respect to information of their bikes that actually matters for someone in order to decide what bike might be the right fit for them, Most companies don't really tell you the nominal continous watt power and the peak power. They simply mislead with peak power only. Information of motor torque is rarely seen and seems to be luxury for some reason. Propably 1/3 of companies don't even bother to to post the bike measurements like handlebar height, saddle height, overall lenght etc. But hey, who am I to crticise ................. pretty obvious people are buying anyways, right. I am the best example, because after looking most bike reviews you ever did, I noticed neither bike is without some little quirks and flaws and far from perfect. That being said, I just ordered the Engwe EP 2 - PRO and I am hoping that maybe over the months since your initial review the company might have made some upgrades or changes towards the better. If not, at least the damage to my wallet is with this bike less frustrating in comparison to others that cost 50 to 80 % more. LOL. Thank you
My display its locked to change the POWER SET then I cannot modify the percentafge of power fopr every PAS.
Great video.Wished this model had the brake light as well. I have also seen variations from the way they are shipped. Some are pretty much assembled, yet others you have to put the front tire, fenders, tail lights. How does one know how yours is shipped?
You can try reset your tire settings
First set tires back to 16inch then hit the throttle, then set the tires back to 22inch
and hit the the throttle again see if that works 👍
I have it now 6 months, the only problem is that the motor is loud
Good review
An 18 amp controller seems about right. 48 volt battery X 18 amps = 864 watts. Assuming your display is right the math works out that the bike does have an 18 amp controller.
Did the suspension on mine today, there are no recessed area on the suspension arm, I guess it’s worn on yours, I’ve only had mine 11 days, I put washers both sides, plenty of suspension travel now 👍
Mine was new in this video when I fixed it.
@@JeremiahMcintosh hmm I wonder how it got worn into a recess? I’ve been using mine for 11 days, only “fixed” the suspension over tightening/lube job this morning. All the tinkering required, that really should have been caught by quality control, but it’s still one of the best eBikes out there. Changed the handlebars/stem for BMX riser bars, so much better for looks and handling.
Which bmx handlebars did you choose?
Which one of the 2 bikes would you have?
If you can only power up to the level you are at, this bike is a no for me. It the reason why I also passed on the Lectric line of bikes. I dont have this limitation on my RAD bike and I use this function all the time. You need this not only for hills but also when you have to cross traffic etc.
If you are are in level 5 you have full power. I bought one about 2 years ago. It is pretty fast. Had it up to 33 mph pedal assist. You can use throttle only but don't use throttle from dead stop. It is hard on the motor.
I just purchased one last night and i was wondering if it is possible to swap battery to 21ah samsung like the yamee fat bear?
So why don't you adjust the adjustable kickstand?
Hey great video, I have a question what settings do you have on your engine engwe pro I recently got mine but I can only top speed of 22mph even with the wheel up it won’t go pass 22mph. Any chance I can share the settings on yours. Thanks
You need a direct drive hub motor for regen braking but I wonder what or how they implemented this.
I’m not sure but it does work. They call it I-ERS
@@JeremiahMcintosh do you generate more power the closer you are to no pedal assist or is it the same from 0-1-2
It’s the same. The faster you are going over about 14mph the more power it regenerates.
what's the top speed and how can i get two batteries and can the bike fit on front of the bus ??
Is the bag long enough to fit a battery if you wanted to carry a spare one with you ?
Check out the mihogo lx4.0 duel battery 1,399
Very nice review! Would you recommend buying the Engine instead if the EP2 pro?
It depends what you’re looking for in a bike. If you have a Lotta hills the regen braking is nice if not it’s not needed. The only thing I thought was weird was the way it limited power up hills when pedaling. Not sure if they changed it in recent models or not.
@@JeremiahMcintosh i see, i live in the Netherlands so hills are nowhere to be found. If the motor is the same than i quess the cheaper Ep2 is a good choice. Was hoping for a real nominal 750Watt in the Engine with peak power of 1000W but i quess thats not the case. The 16 Ah battery and hydraulic brakes are something to consider though with a bike with this speed and weight. Thanks for your input👍
@@John-oo9xu i visited there in 2019 and was blown away how flat it is!!! i live in los angeles and hills are everywhere. nederlands was cool!!
Can you tell ne why the battery is draining so fast?
The About Us page for Engwe is very sketchy....it sounds like a shell company.
Agreed! The story about Carl and the boys... Sheesh
I think u have to change setting many other people are getting 30 and above on this same bike and pulling the full 1000watt uphill
This was a while ago when I reviewed it. Possibly they changed the way it works after my suggestions?
there is a similar ebike but much cheaper. The Deepower H20 Pro. Do you have the chance to make the test of that one?
No plans on reviewing it as of now, never even heard of it.
Hi Jeremiah. Could you tell me if the Ep2 Pro also has this Engine Pro problem of not activating the throttle booster when pedaling?
No it doesn’t but it is also less powerful than the engine pro.
@@JeremiahMcintosh that's weird because in ther website the show same engine for both. Maybe you got the previous version with weaker motor. Now, the EP2 pro has a 750w with 950 peak
@@JeremiahMcintosh Engwe motors have only 55 Nm torque. That's why in your uphill tests they couldn't make it. They should use quality Bafang motors not only for reliability but also for more torque, Bafang has 70 Nm torque in a 750w motor.
I wonder of that regenerative breaking is in every later bike as well
I believe it’s only in the engine pro model.
Do I need to unlock it in order attain the full speed? If yes, how to unlock it?
I live in the UK. I know that many ebikes shipped to UK are limited to around 15 mph (25 km/h) in locked mode.
You need to unlock
Anybody knows if ENGWE also sells with other brands in different countries? thanks
What’s your thought on the Polarna M6 with the new upgrades?
Sorry I’ve never tested a Polarna M6 before.
@@JeremiahMcintosh let’s make it happen! Love your channel!
how can i get a new battery
I noticed that you had your wheel size set to 22 inch. I thought these were 20 inch wheels? I am still learning to adjust the different settings on my Engwe Engine Pro
You need to set it to the outside diameter which is over 20 inches usually around 22 to 24 inches
How's this holding up after a year
Can you change how much power it gives in pedal assist in settings? Does EP2-Pro have the same problem?
You can
Can anyone tell me how to ride the bike without pedal assist at all, my bike will not any lower than 1, I know if it's on 0 it won't assist but I can't get it to 0
Jeremiah, I know this is off topic but, it's important to an old man who's a fan of your vids. Just bought a BPMimports bike used. It's a F-15RS with a 750 watt motor. The controller has been replaced and the 'manual' the guy emailed me never mentions this model and refers to the bike as a "Pedego" but many models and nothing that looks just like my bike. Any idea as to what I just got myself into?
I have no idea sorry. Thanks for being a fan!
Ive watched people in uk on this bike reaching 34mph.by chanhing some of the settings.not sure what ones though
hello this is the 12.8ha or 16ha version because on the official website there is this technical note Note: whose battery is 16ah and does not have the I-ERS power supply regeneration, do you recommend 12ha or 16ha?
I just ordered mine, in Europe u don’t have that choice, u just get the 16ha, but this was filmed in oktober, it didn’t have that version back then.
@@boet2936 But the 16ha version doesn't have the I-ERS module right?
@@thecobratony86 yes it doesn’t, but that’s a good thing bc it’s only really helpful if u live somewhere where there are really steep hills, otherwise it kinda useless, like for me. I live in the Netherlands, it’s the flattest country in the world and our highest hill is like 40 meters high.
Regen works but it is utterly useless for anyone who does not ride steep hills. In fact, it reduces coasting performance in gentle hills that are not steep enough to regenerate.
just put it in pedal assist 3 to 5 and coast along.
For Lisbon it's perfect. Already rode 28 km on these steep hills and it still rocks 88% on the battery meter. Regen works flawlessly 🤩🤩🤩
Hello, I been thinking about buying the Engwe engine pro upgraded version with 16Ah battery, upgraded controller and display.
My concern is the I-ERS Regeneration.
Engwe came out with a model WITHOUT Regeneration but I believe is only available in Europe.
My question is, if you had the choice to buy with or without Regeneration, which one would you buy?
Also, do you know if the battery runs out and you have to operate the bike like a "normal" bike.
It will feel heavier because of the Regeneration?
Please reply, I will like to know your opinion, Thank you
If you have a lot of long hills in your area then I would say the regeneration feature would be great to have, not so much for recharging the battery but for less braking going down the hills because it is nice how it slows the bike down. As far as it being harder to pedal when the motor is off I haven’t really noticed much difference than from my other bikes but any electric bike like this is going to be somewhat hard to pedal with no battery.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hello Jeremiah, I really appreciate your opinion, I'm going to wait for the upgraded version without Regeneration, I was told by Engwe that the new upgraded bikes are going to be available next week, maybe you can get in touch with them and get an upgraded bike so you can make a comparison video.
I just ordered mine with the 16ha battery and the stronger controller, does the stronger controller really make it faster?
So what difference did the controller make?
Engwe ep-2 pro 2022, does have same Regen feature system?
No only the engine pro.
why is my my screen different mines is the upgraded 750w, the speed is also in Km did i get an EU version?
Maybe they changed it on the upgraded version. Typically you can change it from KM to MPH in the settings on most bikes.
Hello, my Engine Pro screen went off in a downhill and I can't turn the bike back on ever since. Can you help me troubleshoot?
You may have a loose connection on the display or at the controller. I would unplug all your connections and plug them back in making sure not to bend any of the pins. I would also check voltage on your battery and make sure it is getting a good connection.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks for the reply.
There aren't any loose connections, the bike is relatively new and has about 83 miles.
The incident occurred when I switched from level assist 5 to 0 in a downhill, regenerative braking kicked in and my guess is that it might have shocked either the battery, the controller or the computer.
The battery was 75% full, and after the incident, I charged it to check its responsiveness; it charged for 2 hours then the charger turned green as an indication that it was full.
Hmm not sure then. Maybe a bad controller. I would contact ENGWE and see what they say.
We made a purchase with the company, the product was defective and was returned. The company had promised to refund the payment amount and refuses to carry out the refund based on untrue claims.
I do not recommend negotiating with such a company or even purchasing products from the Engwe brand as it has poor quality and many defects.
16amp upgrade
Set PAS 5 to 99% and you will have full power.
Do not set it to 100%. It does not work.
damn, I see your arm fully extended to reach the handle bar. Ergonomics are not that good. That handle bar is for scooters, not for bikes. They should improve handle bars asap in order to adjust not only height but also depth. In my case, I like to ride with my arms flexed, I mean, I like the handle bar quite near towards me.
This e-bike is manufactured by Yanze electric bike company in China. It’s just rebranded by so called “e-bike” stores. Do yourself a huge favour and contact them directly. It will save you $1000 easily.
The coupon code offered is a joke because even with the so called coupon discount it’s still robbery.
It's just 500w or 750w ?
Hi, I was about to buy this bike until I saw the problem with the PAS only reaching 500w uphill. I live in the Chilterns so hills everywhere! . . . which is why I want an Ebike. Was the problem resolved does anyone know?
I’m not sure if it was changed in current models but hopefully someone else with a current one can answer this question?
@@JeremiahMcintoshI bought the bike . . it readily jumps to 1000w when needed pedalling up hills so maybe your bike had a problem. I have to say that your review put me off buying the bike for quite a while but I'm very glad that I took the plunge . . . it's brilliant! I hope other folks weren't put off as well cos that would be a shame.
Thank you for your feedback hopefully They fixed the issue after my recommendation to them. When you were getting 1000 watts were you peddling also or just using throttle?
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hmmm, apologies , , , not quite 1000w . . .between 900 and 950w . . would help if I wore my glasses!
Does the back light used as turn signal?
No it does not have turn signals.
@@JeremiahMcintosh I have maybe an earlier manufacture of the Engine 750 Pro and the rear light is a bit different and does light up brighter when I brake. No turn signals.
Is it possible to ask for a coupon code for EU 😅
Lol I think is only good in the US.
Have you tried pressing the "I" button? It changes the mode Eco normal and sport mode it should give you full power while pedaling. Found out from another RUclipsr
Yes I showed how each mode works in this video.
I must have turned away for a moment while I was making food💀
I hope they fix that issue. That defeats the purpose of pas as you mentioned going up hills! To most it'll be a deal breaker
I agree and it was strange that it was opposite of how you think it should be. Hopefully they can update them in the future.
I really like this bike but all the people saying about the throttle being a bit lacking I think it's more of a European bike where the laws are different for throttle and the speed you can go, alot less than in America
The site lists mechanical disc brakes, not hydraulic. I can see in your video that your bike has hydraulic discs; not sure about what it shows on their website.
@Forever Young Thanks. I looked hard at one of the photos and I thought I saw an oil reservoir so I figured the odds were that the bike had hydraulic discs. The bigger issue, however, is what the OP pointed out -- that the throttle on demand/throttle override doesn't work while pedaling, and that's a total deal breaker for me.
They are definitely hydraulic. Maybe they used to be mechanical and are now updated to hydraulic but the site isn’t updated.
@@JeremiahMcintosh That's the most logical answer. I could see that yours were clearly hydraulic.
This bike will only give you roughly 350w with pedal assist. The Polarna does the same thing. It’s really weak.
You can see in the video that it actually gives you somewhere around 550w with just Pedal assist.
22mph is slow. Too much confusion about regen PAS levels etc
42:30 His bike goes up hills much better.
I hope the bikes gettng cheeper in future. 4000 up to 8000€ is not funny anymore. But so long people buy it for this priceses is that there own fault.
10:30 ⏸️
It stresses me out when you ride with one hand lol
😂
What the mph full throttle
All that info is in the video.
ARIEL RIDERS AND DONE.... DONT WASTE BUY CHEAP BIKE..
It is totally rubbish. After one month the motor broke down and had failure, terrible clutching problem and scary sounds coming from motor, barely go or not after then it started to not showing the speed. More to the point the part connecting from frame to with rear side almost about split with each other. Front and rear frame are shaking terribly now from the middle and it is puting my life in danger. I took all the videos and sent them but they can not accept my claims. If they don’t refund I will upload all the videos about the bike failures. When someone see those videos it will be really surprised. Fallaciously advertising, terrible build and design quality. We are two people having the same bike and experiencing same issues.
A big dissapointment, what a shame!
beware engwe sent me defective x26 with stuck batt engwes fix was to tell me to pry out batt with screwdriver and sand a brand new ebike 🤪🤯 or to take to shop pay $300 and wait for a check. engwe also asked me to lie via email.
You know it's straight from China with no American support when it says build in instead of built in
🤔 your bike is very slow man. I get 55km/h fully charge with mine engwe ep-2 pro and low battery I get 41km/h. I so wanted the one in this video but nah the one I have seem to have exactly what like and need.
I can agree with you I also Tested an EP2 pro and if you watch that video it is way faster but this one does seem to have slightly more power.
@@JeremiahMcintosh have you try overvolting it? Dont know if its even possible but ive seen videos of people claiming that it helps the bikes go faster(not engwe bikes though). I have to say though that I've tried it with mine ep2 Pro and it didn't really helped but I'm wondering since the engine pro is slower than ep2 Pro. Would be a games changer if possible. Imo.
@@Javier79ism what is overvolting
@@boet2936 overvolting is supposed to make you're bike go faster depending if you do it properly or if the bikes battery can handle it
@@Javier79ism oh is that the v thing on the display?
I just can't stop laughing about all of these e-bikes THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE SAME WITH ALL THE SAME PARTS.
It really is true people are just being mental men starting their little company buying from the same manufacturers jacking up the price and selling it to people.
It's like every review is the same exact review with the same exact bike with very slight differences.
It's just crazy..
AND EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO START NEW COMPANIES DOING THE SAME THING. WITH ALL THESE WEIRD NAMES.
I just can't 🤣