The Problem with Pinterest Art
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2024
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Pintrest is like a library we come to look at cool art but don't expect to talk and socialize
Found you, you're the person who just grab the books, see the pictures and don't read the words. (please don't take this comment serious, it's just a joke.)
@@usagi2076:) in reality I don’t actually have Pinterest just my sis uses it a lot so I see how she reacts to it
That's what I say, you don't go to the library to talk! 😅
I totally comment on Pinterest, but not with random art but mostly fandom art
@@marzvstheworldyeah I mean what would you say about just random art? “Woah, cool” at that point there’s no reason to comment 🥲
The point of Pinterest not having a community is so true
It does though.....or at least more on reddit where people complain a lot about it
It actually does have a community, mostly within the "sub" Pinterest community known as the Pinterest Whispers.
there is a pinterest memes community but it will take time to get this community on your page, people know eachother and interact and make friends there.
pickle man
@@ludansk02another community is if you stick to your fandom like in an anime or video game for instance.
The fact that Pinterest doesn't have a community is one of the reasons I like it. I see it as basically just a big visual search engine, a tool, for finding references and inspo and figuring stuff out, and my extreme introvert self is REALLY GLAD that I don't have to interact.
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Exactly. It just prevents toxicity and judgment and I love it. Pinterest isn’t known as the most peaceful social media for nothing. It’s exactly because it lacks the social part. It’s just media and peace.
On the other hand, we see how social media with a heavy social part turn out. (Twitter..)
For realll
yh but... then just dont look at the comments... i think its nice if its kinda like livelier
I am also introvert but only irl
I like Pinterest bc there isn't a community, it's like a breath of fresh air
And grass
With every community is a toxic side that’s hard to avoid. If this is what it takes to be at peace then I wouldn’t trade it for anything else.
@@thatonedrainedplatter5421TikTok and Twitter be like:
praying for a Pinterest alternative with 0 AI, legitimate references are becoming harder and harder to obtain :(
It's an ai art apocalypse there.
Or at the very least an alternative where it's easier to find the original autor of an art piece.
Deviant art is an AI cesspool, but at least re-posting isn't a thing. So, if you can find actual art, it's always posted by the original artist.
@@jadaw644 yea sad part is, everytime I click on anything its an AI. Even if I search "hand drawn pencil sketches" still you bet there are ai images there. its tiring. I just wanna see art by actual artists
sadly i don't think that's feasible... ai detectors aren't that great most of the time, people are gonna lie anyway, and reports are not gonna be enough to counter the mass influx of these kinda posts
Pinterest "not having a community" is a blessing. No toxicity, no drama, no dumb stuff, just pics and vids of whatever you are looking for. It's chill, It's stress free, It's just you in your world of inspo. It's just that simple: we do have a community, but we are simply chill and minding our business.
The comments exist😃 read them and you'd see if you still think so. I started not even opening them...😩
@@words-island1011 clearly, you haven't really used pinterest a lot. The community is there. There are plenty of posts where you can comment and have fun with others. It's just a bit more silent because of those ai posts with disabled comments.
@@words-island1011 There is toxicity, but at least you can look at it like a museum (wall of gum probs)
Nah, its not chill, ive seen people upload really disgusting ships and almost +18 pics.
THE WORST PART IS WHEN YOU KEEP LOOKING AT THE SAME TOPIC FOR A WHILE BUT GO TO SEARCH LIKE SOMETHING BASIC "Cookies" AND THEN YOU JS GET THE STUFF YOU USUALLY LOOK AT 😭⁉️ i literally searched for "Cookies" AND GOT ANIME BOYS ⁉️
how is that even........
both are tasty-
THATS ME THOUGH. I search for like sword poses and they give me these crazy videos I always watch.
I used to not have this problem (i think it got updated), now when I scroll down from a pin (hoping to see related pin) I see stuff that would appear in my feed that are not related to the topic I'm looking at
i think that’s because it has your saved pins that are (somehow???) related to the search and then it shows actual pins based on the search but idk 💀
I miss back when you'd search "anime boy art" and it'd be a bunch of edgy 2010s anime boys... not soulless AI garbage
Frrr
Just remember, AI "art" isnt art. Its just AI-generated images.
edit: wow i was not expecting this to get this much attention but this is just my opinion and it doesn't really matter if you agree or not :)
another edit: I said this bc AI doesn't make its own art, instead it merges a bunch of other art pieces which is more like generating the art. The first definition that shows up when you search up art definition is "the expression or application of *human* creative skill and imagination, typically..." I don't think a robot is a human, do u?
I completely agree. Exactly!
i thought this was common knowledge
Which is why I like to say AI "art" with quotation marks. Kinda like a mocking way to say "They call it art, but we all know it isn't".
@Aspirou i think the point they were making here is CALLING it ai art is inaccurate. it’s not art, it’s ai generated imagery
Ai art is someone with an overactive imagination but absolutely no artistic background, they probably couldn’t draw anything freehand from mind or reference, but they’re good with promoting or telling a machine what to do in order to generate results. There’s absolutely no effort given to create “Ai art” and the market is over saturated with it. You can tell it’s Ai a lot of the time. If an actual artist wants to use Ai to compliment their creations and make it easier for them, I’m all for it! Anyone who’s a legit artist needs to be compensated in perpetuity for the use of their art in Ai training. If your work is online, it’s been scrapped to teach Ai!
AI art should be straight up banned from any major art sharing site, it's insane that this stuff is allowed to go on
Pinterest isn't meant to just be a art site. It's essentially for anything. Also it's not fair to force people's morals on others. Imagine if they banned Republicans for example from social media sites. Or hatsune miku music?
I dk agree sites for art alone shouldn't have ai art. Because they are different
Playing devil's advocate, websites also belong to private companies and can enforce their TOS (terms of service) mostly as they see fit as they have you agree to them when you sign up for the site, so if AI images are no longer allowed (along with anything else not allowed on the platform), that's entirely in their right to enforce that. It's not trampling on anyone's rights because everyone has the right to find a different website/ platform, so I argue your comparison to politics doesn't quite work here because pinterest =/=the government.
Agreed though, artists right now are desperately trying to find a new platform because everywhere is just FULL of AI. By the time I find references made by real people, I'm too irritated to draw anything. Filters don't work because they're not reliable and most people just lie on tags for views lol.@@sussbob
No, every AI art image should be automatically encoded with a digital lable so that any program that reads the data knows it's AI and labels it visually.
I NEED TO TELL THIS TO EVERYONE!!! AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHARE THIS!!!There is a program called Glaze, It's a tool developed by researchers at the University of Chicago that helps protect artwork from being copied by AI image generators. Glaze works by making subtle modifications to the image that are imperceptible to the human eye but confuse AI algorithms. This makes it difficult for AI models to learn from the artwork and reproduce the style. And the best part is IT POISONS THE AI DATABASE AND FU🎉KS THEM UP HAHAHAHHAHAH. Using this we have a chance to stop or at lest hinder AI art stealing! They are still working on it and improving it. So far it can only be used on pc no phones sorry. Good luck and spread the news. (Pls correct me if i said anything incorrect, or if there are some news about ti) ps. If you post glazes artwork do not post the original not glazed artwork!!!
@@AllyFinthat's... Not really possible. You can add some sort of digital sign (I've heard about invisible pixel watermark), but everyone should agree on the same standard and every single AI should SOMEHOW integrate it inside the model itself. Which sounds unlikely for me.
The only time Pinterest becomes a social community is within those Pinterest "whispers".
And it’s sooo toxic
@@Srtrylov fr
what are whispers? the lil comment sections?
@@bhunyee i think theyre those images with the text on them. usually that one white font
like the whisper app
Yes but there is an other side , a good side too.
This is so true and actually very sad as Pinterest is one of the best image-search platforms and could be such a great place for artists and clients, but these issues really make it difficult to even consider this website as a valuable 'social' media platform to post our art or get some inspo from other artists 💔
i just checked out your channel, and oh my gosh, your art is so amazing!! ❤
In my short time of using Pinterest, I have followed a very dedicated and consistent artist when I was having a drawing spurt. One year later after finally to study specifics, I can't find their reference anymore, drowned in AI arts for not having any tags.
Then I tried with several other keywords, its the same AI sh*t that appears.
I felt like losing a teacher and a place to visit, replaced with Haiti or Detroit.
@@CH3RRYCRU5HIN.Y00 🥹🙏💖
@@defaulted9485Man, it's honestly kinda sad how Pinterest and DeviantArt are some of the platforms that became RIDDLED and INFESTED with AI art it's wild 😵💫
Like the person above said, I checked out your channel too and YOUR ART IS SO PRETTY??! YOU'RE SO UNDERRATED HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE MORE SUBS?!?! 😭
pinterest used to be a fun site i could spend hours on looking up references, tutorials and art styles that i could feel inspired by... now i'm lucky to have keywords whose search results aren't filled to the brim with AI :(
it takes a lot more effort and curation now to have an AI free feed, which dampens any motivation i may have and exhausts me more than inspires me
Just stop clicking on the ai images then
@@AllyFin It could be a missclick or something like 5:58
I NEED TO TELL THIS TO EVERYONE!!! AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHARE THIS!!!There is a program called Glaze, It's a tool developed by researchers at the University of Chicago that helps protect artwork from being copied by AI image generators. Glaze works by making subtle modifications to the image that are imperceptible to the human eye but confuse AI algorithms. This makes it difficult for AI models to learn from the artwork and reproduce the style. And the best part is IT POISONS THE AI DATABASE AND FU🎉KS THEM UP HAHAHAHHAHAH. Using this we have a chance to stop or at lest hinder AI art stealing! They are still working on it and improving it. So far it can only be used on pc no phones sorry. Good luck and spread the news. (Pls correct me if i said anything incorrect, or if there are some news about ti) ps. If you post glazes artwork do not post the original not glazed artwork!!!
@@AllyFin even when you're not clicking on them (or straight up ignoring them), they're still everywhere
@@diediedice they mostly go away if you just click on things that aren't AI to fill the place instead. It isn't hard.
What sucks about the "no credit on Printrest" part is that, before the AI image generation hype, I was finding a LOT more posts that would link directly to the artists' original posts. Most of them were from Twitter, but some were from Deviant Art and Tumblr. And then the hype blew up and I can't find real art hardly at all anyway.
(by "linked to" I mean that, at least on the app, if you click on the image or description of the image it would redirect you to the original post instead of "show more like this")
It's like this stuff has caused a lot of negatives
Am I the only one who doesn't have pintrest ads??
Edit: I use it on my phone without any AdBlockers or VPN. I'm not American or European either. Guess I'm just blessed lol
WHAT HOW
Yeah me too i think it's because i am not american 💀
@@viyaura Doesn't ad block, blocks it?
Samee, I literally have no ads at all.
I use pinterest on my phone and tablet without adblockers or VPN, and I never get ads.
Referencing something is never stealing. Take inspiration in what inspires you whether that be ai garbage or the bottom of a teacup or a fashion catalouge
Exactly, I disagree with the point that taking reference from ai art is just as 'stealy' as ai art itself. You're kinda making it your own whenever you reproduce something without outright tracing it, but again, I dont use ai art for reference cuz... its so bad. I don't see the appeal, but to those who want to use it, go off.
Maybe the OP doesn't necessarily agree with this point but just wanted to present it, too.
I agree. I had a class where we had to find ways to utilise AI in the game development process. My group was making a ttrpg, and I was the artist for it. One way I found to use AI was to make a sketch, slap it in a AI sketch renderer program and then render it based on the coloring the ai gave me. (pretty much like a coloring book where I used the AI image as a palette, idk how to explain it well)
Its not a perfect solution and I haven't been using it since that class, but we needed colored images, I am best at black and white stuff, so AI became a good tool for me to skip the more difficult part of choosing the right colors. The images we used were still mostly my work, I rendered them, only the colors were taken from AI.
fr tho, i also dont think ai art is really art... its just lazily putting some instructions into a machine, like you didnt put any effort in at all did you? i sort of dont appreciate digital art but at least its better than ai art, which is just a big NO for me. also digital art is sort of like a cheat way of creating art but at least its doing something, unlike ai.
@@user-nc6zm5uk3vi agree ai not art btw why u dont like digital art just curiosity
@@user-nc6zm5uk3v hey, just out of curiosity, why is digital art a cheat way of doing art?
I mean, I've been in and out of art school my whole life, doing plenty of both digital and traditional, but it never occured to me that one could take less effort then the other, so Im interested in your reasoning
I love that there is no community in pintrest. Closed my Twitter account, I never on Facebook, I barely use Tumblr and Instagram. I'm sick and tired of socials. I mainly use RUclips and I rarely comment.. so going on pintrest to just seek references in peace and absence of commentary is a godsend for me
As an introvert, one of the best parts of Pinterest is the museum/library feel. Sometimes, I need the silence. I was a fairly early adopter as it was recommended by my fashion illustration professor.
I definitely agree with the rest of your criticism, but I'm not bothered by ads. I like a lot of them.
ikr i love how you have the option of making it social or not
once while browsing hairstyle references i commented smth like "i love their hair", not realizing the poster was the subject of the photo, and they replied and thanked me. i was absolutely shook because i didn't realize not everything on pinterest was a repost until that moment lol
Its also annoying that people will say the art looks like it was Ai generated even though its clearly not
Someone said my art was ai cuz a tree i did looked like a dog......
Yeah there is so much friendly fire.
I NEED TO TELL THIS TO EVERYONE!!! AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHARE THIS!!!There is a program called Glaze, It's a tool developed by researchers at the University of Chicago that helps protect artwork from being copied by AI image generators. Glaze works by making subtle modifications to the image that are imperceptible to the human eye but confuse AI algorithms. This makes it difficult for AI models to learn from the artwork and reproduce the style. And the best part is IT POISONS THE AI DATABASE AND FU🎉KS THEM UP HAHAHAHHAHAH. Using this we have a chance to stop or at lest hinder AI art stealing! They are still working on it and improving it. So far it can only be used on pc no phones sorry. Good luck and spread the news. (Pls correct me if i said anything incorrect, or if there are some news about ti) ps. If you post glazes artwork do not post the original not glazed artwork!!!
That just means the given art was so generic and formulaic people thought it was created by cross referencing and overlaying tens of thousands of other images. AI can’t make anything unique. Just make things that are unique if you want to avoid this issue.
@@saycapno. It means people are too trigger happy about “calling out AI” and do not know nor do they want to know what AI art is. They care more about the brownie points than pointing out AI.
I post on Pinterest and the ‘no comment’ issue is a system issue. For example, when I post my art, majority of the time Pinterest automatically turns off comments and gives no option open them back up. Lots of other people had the same issue
I don't know why it blows my mind so much but for the longest time I just thought that everything on pinterest was repost, like I never expected anyone to actually post their art given that there's not much to interact with?
They have likes and shares but it just feels like the place where you see a cool picture, save it and that's it
Zepn1 made a great video about Pinterest aswell. They went over some points about Pinterest is a lot chiller place to post your art and let it grow with time compared to short-lived posts on Instagram for example. And there is a community on Pinterest, it’s just a lot harder to come by. For reposts, it’s just better to post directly to the app than get it stolen from another platform and reposted by someone else. In my opinion, it’s a nice other place to put up art LOL
I don’t got any other public platforms other than RUclips and Pinterest, Toyhouse is different though and I’m not active on it
@@AllyFin I don’t have Twitter, nor am I interested in it lol
@@Vibing_Colors Most digital artists with a following or network use it though.
If you want activity you'll have to use the sites that are for it.
I relate to this video 💯 especially when it comes to Ai art and the overload of ads that can be so unbearable at times when looking for specific art related topic
the ai and ad overload is insane
@@viyaura There is one more problem with pinterest that ive ran into and that could also attribute to the credit issue and that's this: If you save an original art or any pin etc and the original is removed or deleted by the owner then the pin will be automatically "re-uploaded" by you. I noticed several pins i saved from a few years ago had been uploaded by me and i could change the descriptions etc when i have never uploaded anything to pinterest before.
Idk if it does this when the original poster deletes their account or just the post but its stupid. Imo it should either make the pin a private save or remove it completely instead of keeping it public and reuploading it under someone else's name. Id hate to be accused of not crediting an artist when I was never the one who uploaded the art work.
I’m always confused when they say ‘credits to the original artist’…cause like, that’s not crediting them. That’s admitting it’s not yours.
the thoughts about pinterest community really stuck a thread with me :> when i was a 13-14 year old on pinterest, i would post ‘aesthetic’ pictures, and my art at the time, i was mutuals on pinterest with my irl art friend group and we would always
-comment on each others new pins
-send each other pins
-do random memes about eachother and link each others profiles
this was back when you could post videos and scroll, i would post little reel type things and the comments were always with pinterest mutuals (not irl friends) we all started dming each other and we made a minecraft relm, i found one of my internet best friends because pinterest kept giving them my pins
i dont know what exactly my point is, but im still in these mini communities, they are THERE, but its very gatekept? abd i think thats why most people have a similar take to you.
english is not my first launguage i apologize!
As a native englischer ur Grammer is far better than mine
@@Popirbythe way you wrote this makes you seem german? xD
Your English is very good. 👍
@@ragcat3732 thank you 😁
I think the non community aspect is actually great cuz then you dont have bullies and such... ive never heard of someone being bullied off of pintrest but i have heardof ppl being bullied off of other platforms
ESPECIALLY TikTok, the art "community" there is so vile lmao 🤮
i've actually gotten bullied there
@GNDROIDS when there’s a will there’s a way
Nice video but the 3rd point was absolutely NOT a problem. There are already so many other social platforms and I don't see the point of pinterest copying other socials just to get more popular.
The app is cozy and unique and I respect the Devs for that, anyway
Exactly!!! That’s why I like going on there! Minimal interaction, just people appreciating things quietly 😭😭
for pinterest community/conversations, it's kinda hard to find. I recommend trying to find fandoms or freshly reposted memes. if you can find the pickleman account that's usually where the action is/was.
I LOVE PICKLE MAN
what about kaitosdiscordkitten smh my head
also KAITOSDiscordKitten and Cunty Coffee Cup
i always love seeing the reoccurring pinterest commenters in the pinterest comments section 😭😭🙏🙏
Pickle man is everywhere
Pinterest algorithm is a mess because there’s not a way to block seeing AI images and half the time Pinterest can’t even tell so when you say “show this less” Pinterest thinks you want to see art in general less.
And it's sad.
Yes , so I sometimes take the time to find a lot of real art and pin them . This way they show similar stuff from artists .
i hate the amount of art reposts!! i would see a really nice drawing but i can’t look at more of their art because the poster didn’t even credit
i see you everywhere do we have the same feeds??? 😭 (nice nikolai pfp)
That's what algorithm is for. You ARE getting similar images xso what's you problem?
@@asdfgha similar doesn’t mean from the same artist all the time. Even when I click specifically search for similar it often brings me to completely other things that often time don’t match the first work. So clicking on art is a gamble to see if they would link back to original accounts which sucks cause I like checking out their twitters and ArtStations
@@Temari0403 well. Learn to Google. Image search? Ever heard of it? Why are you so helplessl?
Yeah it sucks but if you want to see more of the artist‘s art you can always use google‘s image search
4:10 I used pinterest for almost a decade now and I had no idea till last year that it was technically a social media, which is what i think makes me love it so much. The most i do is share movie/actors/artist...names when people ask in the comments its heaven
this video is so real. i love pinterest sm but it has it’s problems, especially the ai stuff and lack of credit
I find it the funniest when someone uses the fact that they make AI art as a profession title and then you see "Professional AI prompt artist" in their bio
If he can generate money with it, it's valid. So what's your problem?
@@asdfgha he stealing duh just typing and fixing.
@@Numbll Ai art isn't stealing. Using other people's IPs and selling fanart is stealing. And nobody has a problem with that!
@@asdfgha where do you think ai get the data from?
@@asdfgha you sound really dumb, cause one of the artist I saw got their work stolen by ai.
my primary issue with referencing ai isn't even the ownership aspect, you can't really hault inspiration. it's the fact that most ai generated images make absolutely no sense when you look closer at them, they don't follow any real fundamentals, characters and environments do not follow the laws of physics, and the character designs usually look very muddied and overcomplicated. referencing ai could just push a beginner artist back and they may not even know its ai generated.
oh yeah AI is just a space pollutant for inspiration. While models will get better at that stuff over time it’s also going to be iterating over other AI art and making it worse. I knew sites like Pinterest and deviantart would become shitshows when AI art first started popping up
I didnt even know pinterest had ads until now ive never seen one
yeah same. didn't know pinterest ads were a thing till now.
Yehh the ad thing is really getting worse in the app version, it think it's because nearly every ad is animated. I dumb my Pinterest app into the trash because of this.
Little tip use the Bowser version, the ads there are less annoying because the most of them are not animated
the problem is that is u have to distinguish AI by your own eyes. Once you have clicked an AI art, you have more chances to click more, and finally AI art will pollute 80-90% of the home page.
Before AIGC is abused, I don't mind the other problems u have mentioned in the video. AI art has ruined every thing. I am not anti-AI person, but it is really difficult to find great valuable reference images,especially on some subjects like SCI-FI and anime.
Yup and AI isn’t staying the same either. It’s gonna get harder and harder and harder to tell and at a certain point you wont even be able to unless the author proves it with work docs. At some point I hope someone makes an art site that requires work doc proof to filer out ai (it’d probably need to have a similar moderation structure to reddit though…)
I agree with almost all your reasons in this video. One thing I partly disagree with is, that I personally kind of like the the lack of community. I enjoy using Pinterest more as a tool, than a social media platform.
But I agree that the lack of comments is sometimes really sad.
Pinterest actually had little art communities but they did everything to destroy them. There used to be kind of a story feature at the top of your feed were it was possible to see the newest post of the people you follow but they removed it. There are also private messages and Group chats, but the notifications don't work and they also seem not really developed. There was also a feature, that made people comment with pictures which let people show of the art they made inspired by this pin.
All of these features would be great to create a sense of community but like another comment has already stated they are probably focusing more on being a search engine than a social media.
Sorry for the long text 😅
I really loved your video! Thank you for making it especially talking about the AI problem which has taken overhand!
Omg, I miss commenting with pictures so much 😭
@@madeleineleonardo2148 I think it actually works again, but they appear really small.
@@stellaurb7231 i figured out a while ago that you have to click on it and it will actually zoom onto the picture
@@stellaurb7231 yeah but that also sucks because you cant see shit
@@stellaurb7231 its way too small
About the ads I think that is a location problem, because when I was in the States I had a lot of ads that I normally don't have in my home country.
NOTE: IF YOU WANNA AVOID AI ART on your feed, report or hide the image. Same with RUclips, don’t search what you don’t want.
idk why she brought up how good TikTok is in this vid, like what are you on about of course it’s not gonna show you AI stuff if you’re actively avoid it??????
Nah but sometimes the ads on pinterest are just WILD- like they have no chill. Like why are there more ads then actual pins?!
Tbh I like pinterest being the "quiet" platform, don't get me wrong the artists definitely their credits for their work but the way this app is letting you go crazy without people is actually a great for me.
When I found Pinterest I thought that one of its positive points was that the community interaction was in a minimum. It is a place where you don't worry to follow and give likes to support people, I do that in every other social media so Pinterest is like a resting place
When I first went on Pinterest, I honestly got so overwhelmed by all the art and different art styles…what helped me was just saving images to my camera and logging out lol
SAME OMG are we twins..? As much as Pinterest can be super useful for finding the refs you want it's really overwhelming which is why I never made an account, social media platforms can be exhausting and I try not to go on Pinterest a lot because it sucks me in like taking drugs 😵💫
the algorithm thing is so frustrating, I definitely never really use pinterest to idly scroll, because a lot of the time if im going to pinterest its to search a reference for something specific, a specific era of fashion, a character design trope, a type of background, etc, something specific to what i am actively making. and then when im like "well im done!" i tab back to the main page and it is EXCLUSIVELY that subject, especially when im adding things to a moodboard im stuck there forever now. i wish the homepage would reorganize itself eventually to blend the many things youve looked up, but nope, this one subject forever now. and because those recommendations also bleed into searches it makes trying to pivot to find reference for something else so difficult, like i'll look up "horror character design" and then pivot to "anthro character design" and it will just be creepy furrys, cool but not exactly what im looking for.
I'm a beginner artist and I use pinterest for reference. most of the problems (except the ad one) are true and hits me like a truck (When I see a lot of art and my skills not being able to match with them). now you can tune your feed and remove what you clicked in but I there would be some hints of that removed pin you clicked in giving some pin in your feed which would be annoying BUT hey, you can remove it and just clicked on the things you really want to change it
I loved your video, and something I would like to say is about the community. Actually, the art community on Pinterest is very small because most of the community on Pinterest is the whisper community (aesthetic/anime whispers). As someone with an account on Pinterest and is a whisper creator, I can tell that there's a lot of artists who post their work on accounts that they use for whispers which is very enjoyable and useful for their popularity. Hope it helped
on pinterest there are no community because pinterest is a image aggregator and people who post their pics on pinterst just insane because they will be mashed with millions of pics from all of internet
i like that there’s no social aspect to it. it keeps the peace. otherwise i probably wouldn’t be on there at all.
Omg yes, They repost others art like 🔥🔥🔥. One time I saw a post and the artist of the peice they reposted was fighting the person who re-posted it saying things like"I didn't give you the permission to repost my art" Which I understood. They should just give credits it isn't hard. You found the picture saw the artist and Instead of credit you put "Follow Me For More❤❤❤" like 🤨
Fr it's so difficult to find the og artist and when you find a good artist you discover it's just AI
I‘ll take that over the insane ai pollution any day. At least you can use google image search to find the real artist, but there is nothing that will stop ai images from showing up
seriously even if the art literally has a watermark that says "DO NOT REPOST ON PINTEREST" its still on there? is pinterest clout that addicting to these people
@@pulped69dago91 Fr it's like, "THERE IS BIG WATERMARK THERE" and still they repost it they down bad for clout.
Just wanna note that it's not even just the art side that AI has invaded, it's also invaded the home/room decor side of Pinterest which is a HUGE problem for story writers and other video game creatives that thrive off of room/house references :( I recently learned that you can usually tell it's AI by the stairs... oh, the stairs 😭💀
It's everywhere. It's in the crochet-community, and Baking-community.....it's basically on all and any topic ....
@@LinnzyIt's also really bad on DeviantArt, AI "art" has spread like a disease or virus, like the Black Plague...
I am not surprised that sites dedicated to minimal-tagging image vomit got overrun by low effort spam content. It’s a match made in heaven. Unfortunately the ‘community’ part is necessary now because the ‘community’ is where the ‘people’ are
Pinterest is an insanely huge platform especially because it’s primarily about posting images/videos exclusively. I would argue that it has WAY too many communities, so much that a lot of content you’ll come across has a great chance of going unnoticed simply due to the sheer amount of content that exists on the site. and like you said, Pinterest isn’t made like other social media platforms like instagram, twitter, etc, nor do people use it with the same intention. 99% of people guaranteed primarily use Pinterest just to create boards, look at, and save images, there is no necessity to be active and interactive because it’s simply not an app that operates like one that needs that. people kind of just view Pinterest as a better and aesthetically organized version of google.
I could never make sense of Pinterest and now it has A.i. greeeeaaaat : l
THANK YOU ABOUT THE CREDIT THING!! Biggest reason I avoid it ... especially years ago when I had to source an architecture photo a group mate put into a presentation ... I found the actual house on google street view but never the original of the image i was supposed to credit
I wanted to just have some art thing in the background while was drawing and now I unlocked a whole new part of Pinterest 😭
i love how you got straight to the point
I'm srry...20 ADS IN LIKE 5 SCROLLS FLIPPIN EXCUSE ME!?!?
I've always looked at Pinterest as a "Google for images only". Even before the AI wave, Pinterest was just "if you find an image on whatever website, you can Pin it, and now you'll always have a catalogue of images to refer to instead of having to remember the website it came from."
I find it odd when people comment on a Pin asking the Pinner what they did for this amazing background or colors or whatever, because it's so obvious the Pinner isn't the original artist. Even if a Pinner is the original artist of the image, I would imagine they put it up on Pinterest as a way for others to more easily find it - and maybe to promote their own website as a description.
I don't think Pinterest was ever meant to be a community, so I don't really know why there is a comment section.
I've never tried to make a Pin of my own, so I don't know if the Pinner gets an alert when there's a new comment like you would in a community.
It is also clear that most Pinners nowadays are, as you say, just using it to put out their AI images. Probably because more established art communities have rules that makes AI art posting more complicated than it is on Pinterest.
Those are my thoughts, as you wanted. Have a nice day! :)
The worst thing is that it is stolen from REAL artist. I would like to support the REAL artist. But the REAL artist is never credited. Sometimes they dont even say that its AI. Talentless people steal from real artists, doesnt credit MAKES NO EFFORT themselves, but claims to be artists, in fact THE ARTIST. Though they did NOTHING except use a program.
Fr AI art is talking art especially AI generator I hate that cause I am my self like to draw yeah but AI just take down everything
So, as to the "no community" problem, actually it depends on what fandoms your in or are interested in. like for example I an usually in the FNAF community and trust me it is HUGE and even on pinterest there are gachatuber's, artists, and usually unlike ai art, they credit the original artists I think the problem is that the stuff you look at, there just isn't anything to comment on or talk about. There is actually a big community on pinterest and I'm really happy when I find a user that has that one person that ALWAYS comments encouragingly on their posts 😊🤔🥺
I’m in the gorillaz and South Park fandom and it’s HUGE,there’s talented artists,fanart,whispers and more and (most) of the community is pretty wholesome. I love Pinterest bc it’s slow and a break from the fast paced,brainwash mess that things like TikTok and instagram are. She was totally wrong about it having no community. I think it’s just the stuff she looks at (it’s the generic Pinterest anime girl/boy stuff that no one cares about)
yeah!! i’m mostly in the dsaf and faith:tut spaces on pinterest and those communities are smaller but everyone kind of knows each other. the same 1-2 groups of ppl are in most of the comment sections. i’ve only had positive interactions since i started posting my art on there :D
Holy crap is it just me or has your editing improved heaps? Love this video (even though I've barely started it)!!!
ahh tysm?!?!
Yeah, Pinterest is a social media. And even with all these ‘problems’, it’s still the best social media platform for me. If anyone wants communities, they can go to other places, there are millions with ‘communities’. I like the fact that it is pictures-videos-focused. There’s no trends, nor is there city-like hustle and bustle. People need to slow down and relax.
I do hate the AI pics though.
About the community aspect . . . Pinterest took that away years ago. The app had a community bubble on the top of the homepage so that you would get a notification from the individual you followed that they posted something in their own bubble. It was such a neat feature, too. Pinterest also had a short form content page as well (which I hated because it was strictly algorithm by what something looked like and a lot of reposts). They got rid of this, too, and people don't even remember it too much.
When there was a creator bubble, there were larger and multiple communites (there was a jewish community spreading awarness, intersectional feminist activist, art, and book posters by young teens for example), and you could interact with more people who loved the same content, art, and posters as you did in the comments.
EVERYONE was INCREDIBLY upset when Pinterest got rid of the bubble notifications because a lot of us dedicated not completely artsy users (probably younger teens lets be honest) had lost a social media community that didn't need instagram and tiktok downloaded.
And there is your short history of no community on pinterest (unless you find the whisper girls on pinterest).
Fun fact: I rarely bump across AI art on Pinterest. And when I do, it's so bad that it's impossible to use as a reference.
(For example, those examples you showed were terrible. They didn't even follow the basic rules of shape separation in character design. But yeah, the color choice is... interesting. Clean and without surprises or creativity, but it works... kinda.)
But...but... I like that Pinterest is not a social media but just a library. I'm pretty fed up with social media and I want to go to a place to check references without interacting. There's a ton of other places doing this job, from Artstation to Instagram and DeviantArt.
there is some sort of community, but I am not primarily in the pinterest art community. there are some "pinterest cyptids" where many users on the same "side" know other users and such
what are you talking about like the pinterest whisper meme community?
@@ludansk02 i’m not talking about the whisper meme community, or the recipe, or the old moms off of facebook, i’m talking about the funny stuff off of tiktok and tumblr that’s not brain rot
pickle man, trans light yagami, woogadoogado, ask me about my felonies. fun people
@@M0ONCommander bbb, springtraps_kitten, KAITOSdiscord kitten, etc :3
@@M0ONCommander PICKLE MAN!!! i once sent him fanart but i think he didn't like it :((
I think there's a lack of community in Pinterest because It gives you an overload of images so it's really easy to scroll through several in one swipe and it's not as intimate. It's primarily been used for references, ideas and aesthetics. I don't come across quite as much AI on Pinterest because I look up real life images as references and not art itself. I would much rather use instagram or other platforms for the actual art
You’ve raised such wonderful points!!! It’s almost ridiculous how I never even tried to pay attention to all of pinterests drawbacks😭
i didn’t even know that ads were a problem on pinterest cause I rarely ever run into them. i’ve never seen an ad on my homepage either
The simplest way to know if something is ai art is to look for the process of how it is drawn. There is always a process in most art, and traces will certainly remain that lead a trail of the process.
Ai images aren't made of layering, overlaying ect, so they don't have the same type of process that real art does, and it wont make sense if you look for one.
Though, this only works if you already know the techniques that digital artists use in their process.
i LOVE that there's no community. every time there's comments on a post it's just kids being annoying. i wish you can disable comments altogether. plus i dont need more community im already getting bombarded by tiktok insta twitter discord
6:03 one way for Pinterest to not recommended things you don’t want to see it’s to click “not interested” every time you see it. This way it won’t show up in your feed.
I never knew I needed an art best friend. BUT NOW I DO I GUESS!!
4:18 I may be wrong, you can change it in the settings theres an option in there where you can allow people to comment and it could also because your account is private so thats why nobody can comment your pins.
and the fact that blocking an user doesn't block the pins from your feed is outrageous! I tried blocking these AI accounts but their pins keep appearing in recommended and in my feed???? WHY IS THE BLOCKING FOR THEN??? NOBODY MESSAGES EACH OTHER ON PINTEREST LET ME BLOCK/MUTE THE ACCOUNT!
also a smaller pet peeve of my, why is the hide button right next to the save on app??? so many times I end up hiding and loosing a cool pin I meant to save, they should be opposites on the wheel.
Maam, i love your editing style. You inspire me
The algorithm point is so true, but i have something that might help, go to settings and click home feed tuner, you can choose pins to see less off and boards to see less things related to that board aswell
if you feel pinterest has no sense of community, you really need to look up particular interests and save pins. You will naturally get recommended similar posts with myriads of comments. There's bronies, girlbloggers, gamers, NHL fans (im not kidding), chris cornell thirst trap fancam editors. Even if it's the nichest thing ever, you'll find it and people who like that thing you like.
I’ve been using Pinterest since at least 2015 and although I still love it, I am becoming more and more frustrated. Besides AI images and ads, what really gets on my nerves is that I am constantly getting pins banned for “violating” Pinterest rules. I have an anatomy board and they banned old Greek statues for being “porn”, they deleted an illustration of a vampire anime girl who was drinking from blood bags for “violence”, they also flagged a pin of a girl in bikini, when in parallel they put ads for bras and lingerie ! What really frustrates me is that it has now become so easy to “violate” their rules, just show arms with muscles and it’s already tagged as content for adults. The worse I had was a pin of a little doll that was absolutely completely dressed but it was light pink…they flagged it as porn! I was like WTF??? Mind you those are not MY pins I just pin them in folders, but now I have to second guess if they are going to ban the pin. It has become ridiculous.
that happens to me all the time too! pinterest updated their policies but i don't see ANY change. there is a TON of p0rn AI images that pinterest doesn't even bother to remove. if this keeps on going, pinterest would probably have to be taken down!
Omfg that sounds so freaking annoying as hell, honestly hate the AI they use to try and detect NSFW because most of the time it doesn't know wtf its doing 😑 ALL these AI detection bots social media platforms use whether it's for posts or comments are hot garbage
I personally like that Pinterest has no community. Pinterest for me is just finding memes, and tips for art, I'm not there to discuss and be in a community with someone. The fact that there is no "trending" or "likes" or whatever it is, works for me, because I'm not pressured to become like them. It's a library of whatever it is you like, not another mind-consuming social media that makes you depressed because everyone has so many followers and friends. Not everything should be social media, and I'm glad for it. Pinterest is social media, but with everything that makes it bad taken away. No one is striving to get followers, likes, views. No one tries to be better than someone else. It's just a library.
Edit: ... That *is* a lot of ads you're getting, I have no clue what happened but I probably get like a quarter of that XD
and when that library is not curated and its submitters are not required to verify their authenticity it devolves into fraud.
In a way I kind of enjoy that Pinterest has less of that social media feel though. It’s a really nice and refreshing feeling from the super fast paced ones and I feel like my time spent on there is much more intentional and personal
I never saw any ads in pinterest
You guys clearly aren’t on Pinterest as much as some of us, there is a community but it’s underground, formed under the meme posts, I mean one of the frequent commenters that people I also see often will reply too me like “I see you everywhere”, also we literally have community celebrities like pickle man, Harry Vince, ftm light yagami 💀 you guys saying Pinterest has no community is like when Christophe Columbus thought nobody lived in America and he discovered
I wish pinterest would show me public boards made by users if I look up a fashion style or aesthetics. aka make it more community based
Whenever I search art on Pinterest there is always community and everyone supports each other.
Honestly the lack of credit to original artists makes me so irrationally mad. Like, I see a very beautiful drawing and I really like the art style, therefore I want to study the artists technique and style to incorporate it in my kwn works however the drawing I saw was uploaded by a reposter who gave absolutely no credit to the original artist themselves. Not to mention that even when the comments ARE turned on, everyone just praises the art as if the reposter originally created it and when u ask who the original artist actually is or when u tell them they should give credit they completely ignore you??? I absolutely despise that because you can rarely ever actually find the original creator, because no one gives three flying fucks about them.
It definitely sucks. A good tip is to use Google reverse image search. Not always perfect, but usually does the job. (On Mobile you'll need the Google app.)
IKR???!!! God that's one of the BIGGEST PROBLEMS when it comes to Pinterest, 98% of the time literally nobody bothers to credit, so I have to rely on the comments but it sucks when comments are turned off. It really helps when there's credit because then I can check out who the artist is and their social media platforms. There's only so much reverse image search can do... 😞
holy sh*t- probably 25% of the art I saved on pinterest, is ducking Ai-Art.
Also I post some of my art on pinterest and i find sometimes my comments get automatically turned off! Its weird and i would love to have them turned back on, as i love the small but humble pinterest community!
I’m not on social media as often as I use to be but this explains a lot of what I see on Pinterest. Idk if the photography used on Pinterest is AI generated but I try to use that instead of already drawn art. Anywhere from what appears to be Instagram models posting to certain themes like fairy core photography. Those tend to seem legit and have helped me in my art journey immensely. Still no credit given on these tho, at least not often.
Emmm no offense u might not have realized, but u said give credit to og artist when reposting.. and uhhh jouusta made a video just like this a little while ago lol so out of curiosity was this video inspired by jouusta’s?
Wait, Pinterest has ADS??? Since when?
Lmaoo the ad part got me. Whenever I scroll through Pinterest and see an image I really like and want to pin it, it turns out to be an ad and get that disappointed look
I just watched jouusta’s channel talking about Pinterest and came across your video Wow, so awesome.😮 interesting!!
Like if you saw something at 2:31
Everything you said was facts. Another thing I hate about Pinterest is when I’m looking for images with certain aesthetics, but in order to see black people in these aesthetics I have to also type black woman/man alongside whatever else I type. Even when looking for curly or braided/locs hairstyles. And when I find black people, most of them are lighter skinned or actually biracial. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but Pinterest definitely promotes some types of beauty over others.
Sounds like pinterest is in fact, promoting beauty lmao
i never saw a single ad on pinterest and im useing it at least for 6 years thats odd
I just use AI art to get some inspiration as other means isn't enough anymore
Same
Pinterest is no different than DevantArt and Artstation now
LITERALLY comments not being available is so annoying 💀 like its MY post why is pinterest the one deciding whether or not people can comment
NOO FRR THE ADS R INSANE like u think one would be a ref but u click on it and suddenly ur on temu/amazon
*ragged breath*
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