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If you haven't seen him already, Steve Demasco runs a TON of mcdojos in the New England area. They don't spar because their techniques are "too deadly". His claims and credentials are wild. I would love to see you research and do a breakdown video of him. Keep up the great work!
The bizarre thing is when the guy does the elbow to arm ko, he could just have blocked the first strike and gone straight for an elbow to the face, faster, and more likely to get you a ko.
I'm not convinced they are consciously, cynically acting out the KO like stuntmen. They are emotionally invested in believing in this stuff, they WANT it to be real. After all, they want to be able to master it themselves. The technique is a placebo, but they convince themselves that when hit on a certain point, they will fall down and 'feel' groggy. Also it seems that the 'master' says in advance what the effect of the strike will be, so the true believing student will react in the 'correct' way.
It's sometimes referred to as "active compliance". There's some degree of it in every martial art no matter how legitimate. This is what it looks like in the extreme
I'm torn. Watching those videos sounds hilarious, but these guys might do serious damage to my mental health. Heck, I might even laugh so hard that I have an asthma attack. Their martial powers are clearly formidable to hurt me like this.
Ahh, Master Ken. What a guy. How I love good satire. Did you notice how at 3:05 when he says "chu" there's a pause for a second while the patsy decides whether that's his cue to go limp, or if he's supposed to wait for the next "chu"?
I can't believe you made this video...these guys are killers, and I'm sure they're not going to take these insults lying down. Not while there's a buffet open.
How any of this stuff still circulates in the age of MMA being everywhere blows my mind. In the 80s we all believed in jump kicks, Dim Mak, and noses being pushed into brains because we were dummies who didn't know better. This new generation sees what happens on tv at the highest level. They have no excuses for being worse dummies.
Im old enough to remember pre-ufc and nobody believed in Dim Mak. But i remember kids in middle school talking about the brain nose. I used to ask, "Why does that never happen to pro boxers?" Now i do believe that fancy kicks can work. Not for me, but ive seen guys do some showy stuff in mma.
@@rticle15, I truly believe if I’m watching for a punch and the guy kicks me, I know it is going to hurt me real bad. However, what I don’t understand is when the guy spins in a complete circle to throw a full power kick, how the hell does his foot hit anyone.???? You turn your back on me then I either jump back and you miss, OR I jump forward and you hit the ground.
It was ridiculous the amount of bullshit story’s that would circulate about martial arts in the 80’s, there’s no excuse nowadays with MMA being a major sport you can watch at anytime for believing any of this crazy crap these frauds are pushing.
They don't teach that rubbish to martial artists, they teach it to people who don't fight,won't fight,they just want to belong and believe because mediocrity is unbearable. The masters of Woo Woo know this and deliver the fantasy where we can all be kick ass Harry Potters. If if fills a hole in their lives I have no problem, it's only a problem if they find themselves in conflict and believe they have skills they don't but that is unlikely for most.
It's a problem because the general public doesn't REALLY know what to look for or what they're looking at. It takes some searching, and then searching again (known as RE-searching!) to find out what's what. And educating the public when it's so easy to find bad information is an uphill (but very worthwhile) battle.
Every time I see these videos it makes me realize how easy this would all be if I was just a much less honest person. Not only does it feel so dishonest to open schools like this but even more so when you have people believe they are learning potential self defense and combat skills.
Your basic McDojo is almost as bad. I worked as an assistant instructor at one of those strip mall karate schools. You know the kind that REALLY play up all the character building, and self esteem aspects of martial arts training, the ones that tell you your kid will be a black belt in three years, two if you pay for the “special accelerated class”, and teach a hybrid of several styles and were designed by a 40 year old dude with a ponytail. Yeah one of those places. I didn’t last three months. I was a higher rank (in a legitimate martial art) than the lead instructor, I’d been training more than twice as long as him, and I had fought competitively, but he was more “kid friendly” so he got the better paying job. I ended up leaving after talking with the school manager (someone with zero martial arts background) and him saying I was too hard on the kids. He told me they never wanted a kid to quit because it was “too hard” or “not fun”. You know what I did which led to this conversation? I made kids perform techniques again if they didn’t do it right the first time. I also had kids do body conditioning exercises when they would do something poorly. Like as an example: a kid would be doing one of their made up “self defense forms” and would forget part of it, so I’d have them do five pushups before trying again. The kids loved it, I would have a couple of kids in a row do something wrong and have to do a burpee, then the next kid would do the thing right and still want to do a burpee. But the parents thought I was “too hard on their baby” and complained. Man those parents would have lost their minds if I trained those kids anything close to how mine went, we were literally hit with sticks during training.
I think one of the most telling things I've seen was the "break fall". I mean, all those guys are absolute frauds but the facts that they all breakfall as they go down... every... last... on of them... is amazing.
The teacher is at fault, for initiating the con, but the student(s) will also bear the blame once the truth has been revealed and they continue to attend and/or be part of the con. I love your work and the results that come from your dedication. Lets keep exposing these “FlopDoJos”😂
This is a bit lengthy, but here it goes. I TOTALLY agree, this is totally off and a prime example of a bad style, and Dillman and Pantazi are insane. The explanation for the odd labels (liver 32, groin 69, etc.: I made these up, as I don’t know them all) is that they are labels in traditional Chinese medicine, particularly acupuncture. Interestingly, studies show that acupuncture’s rates of success for post-op treatment is 98%, whereas morphine is only 78%, especially by altering pain-perception, being associated with fast and deep analgesic affects. Whereas Count Dante and all that junk is akin to Dillman and Pantazi (totally insane, and not in a good way), and whereas there are a metric-ton of scammers and incompetents in KungFu, it boils down to this: there are some legitimate version which teach, “pressure-points,” according to acupuncture and acupressure (which are good and operable, according to studies), and some teach it as striking anatomical-weak points, nerves, or blood-vessels: these legitimate versions don’t teach that you can do magical knockouts, but they do teach targeting. For example, they say that you can inflict some pain and maybe knock the breath out of somebody by hitting them in the solar-plexus (boxing and Muay-Thai teach that); that you can make someone light-headed with a firm strike to the neck, where the carotid-artery is (which is medically-sound), or that you MIGHT cause a delayed-death by striking the PMI (point of maximum-impulse, which is medically-documented and which some football players who were struck there experienced a delayed passing afterward, linked to that). Other aspects of proper anatomical-targeting could be as simple as gouging the eyes, hitting someone in the throat to temporarily gag them and back them off, delivering a hammerfist to the collarbone to break it, or to knee someone in the groin. If someone teaches pain-compliance or leverage from pressure-points as a supplement to other techniques, maybe hear them out and put it to the test against trusting opponents; however, if someone teaches that you will knock someone out by punching their thigh or tickling their arm or rubbing your thumb across their head, don’t even give it the benefit of the doubt, because that’s just crazy. Now, is all of that combatively-efficable on its own?-no. That’s why any combatively-legitimate version of KungFu will also teach proper footwork, proper defense, sparing with resisting opponents, proper body-conditioning, exercise, and maybe dabble in other styles a bit (and definitely encourage it). I’m a Muay-Thai practitioner for a couple of years now, and I’m not proficient in any type of KungFu yet: with that being said, I have looked into it and researched it heavily, and I did take some lessons with some folks for a week or two, and it was solid enough. I guess I got lucky finding a good group who weren’t scammers or crazy (and even then, they did have some wacky moves and very-unusual theories that I DEFINITELY DID NOT jive with, but a few bad moves amid a lot of good ones does not make a bad art: even traditional Muay-Thai’s got some high-risk-high-reward moves, after all, such as the crocodile-tail (spinning heel-kick). I simply wanted to put this here to provide a bit of helpful context in a non-pretentious and sane way, and to show that, whereas a lot of KungFu is malarkey for the stage or for scammers or for weird cults, there are legitimate versions of KungFu that are simply a different art with its own set of pro’s and con’s, just like every other art-maybe a bit more rare in the midst of all the KungFu-scammers, but good KungFu does still exist out there, if you take your time and research it carefully (even then, don’t be surprised if there’s a tad bit of wackiness in it, but take the overall-good and leave the slight-bad). The same goes for Systema (Systema Ryabko and Systema Vasiliev are totally-wacky, but Systema Kadochnikov and Systema I.Z.V.O.R. do contain some good content amid their own wackiness, as well, though it’s definitely still a bit too off for me). As for sound-based or no-touch, “knockouts”-run if you see anyone teaching that, because it’s bullshido.
Nice post and I did get through it all! Lol. I am a lifelong martial artist started in 1967 and still at it daily, my journey has evolved through time, I was a fighter and competed often 70’s-90’s I watched martial arts in America evolve from the “Blood and guts”era of the 70’s to the flippy kick no contact sport karate is now, also watched MMA evolve, I have both trained fighters and do Chigung, I am blessed to train with some amazing people in my 57 years, I have been exposed to many different philosophies thanks to an instructor with an open mind, jiujitsu is built to our art as one of 5 components, but we’re getting it 2 generation down from the founders and was a hole in our training so in 1991 he connected with Rickson Gracie for more direct training and up our ground game, some of us continued on our JJ journey, some did not. But if anyone has ever been out in a proper Zlock or goose neck lock they become a “traditional”martial art believer, I bounced, and worked loss prevention and made those work many times, as have my countless LEO students. As for the George Dillmam knockout stuff, we also did a few seminars with one of Dilmansguys and he tried to put a lock and or knock out one of my students 6’8, we fought him at 205 Sorry, not sorry to say it didn’t work.😬😉
@@kajukine That sounds AWESOME, man: Jiujitsu rocks! I’m glad to hear you’ve got an open-minded instructor who, nonetheless, looks to the merit of techniques and doesn’t just fall for anything: that balance can be rare, but it’s pure-gold, when you find it! I am not proficient in Jiujitsu, but I hope to be one day, and, until then, I respect it a lot. Jiujitsu’s got such a cool and rich history! Lol, I love what you said about, if you get subjected to a legit version of a traditional martial-art, you readily become a believer that legitimate versions are out there to this day! 😂 I audibly chuckled, and couldn’t agree more!
I thought that first thigh punch was actually a punch to the groin. If someone punched me in the cajones like that, my reaction would be worse than the students.
There is/was a Kyusho school near me years ago (like 2 decades ago). The owner was deaf and one of Dillman’s main students. I remember he had some old video of him utilizing sign language to move into a Kyusho move - like it was some sort of transitional step that he invented. I initially wanted to email him about his BS but opted not to. He was disabled and it seemed like he believed what he was teaching which was sad. I just felt sorry for him and I think he thought he was just teaching proper self defense.
Around 25 years ago I trained at this dojo when it was LCMA. I trained with Cody Robyn for years(under Steve Schatvet, who isn't mentioned here...) and always knew him to be an excellent martial artist, but I wasn't fed any of that stuff in the videos. The instructor at the time used to talk about some stuff like this, but I was never shown any of it. I don't even know how to process what I saw here...
Rob ... I used to watch your offerings, only when they randomly rolled into my internet youtube feed. But now I watch more regularly, as I have cvome to realise and appreciate that you are doing very important work. Well done Rob ... I am very impressed by your wonderful efforts. Thank you for shedding light upon something that is so cancerous and damaging to our society. Critical thinking is crucial to effective living; and thr work you do propogates precisely this. You are a good man. Best wishes , kudos and deep respect from 'Downunder'. If ever you journey to Australia, you have free training at my academy. - JBW
That is some delightful if unintentional Three Stooges-level physical comedy. As to the question: Like a wise man once said, 'No bad students, only bad teachers.' But they kind of lose that protection when they themselves become the bad teachers.
5:16 now all I can imagine is “new achievement unlocked*” some young and upcoming martial artist is going to make the elbow to the bicep knockout his Mt.Everest
I mean, an elbow strike to the bicep is a good way to stop them wanting to punch with that hand, IF you actually and it AND they don't have conditioning from martial arts training, weight lifting, callisthenics, and so on... definitely won't knock them out, but they will feel it. I also wouldn't rely on it as a finishing move.
Just joined the page!! Great video! The blame is on both student and teacher. I don't know how one could have honestly sat thru the entire first class and thought to themselves "this guy is too legit!" 😂 maybe if he actually made the one guy poop himself I would have totally paid for a full membership with a parking space and all... 😂😂
I'm just sad that there are no places to learn this stuff near me. I'm stuck learning BJJ. Let me tell you it's hard for a beginner like me to do a one touch knockout when I'm stuck in a heavy weights side control. I've tried yelling "Save me Dillman, save me" and "the power of ashida kim compels you" to escape, but so far nothing has worked. I'm never going to be a one touch knockout ninja master at this rate.
Great as always. Curious what you think of Larkin's Target Focus Training. I'm skeptical and not considering it, but wonder. Some of the info seems useful, but the methods? I'm happy with a Krav Maga center near me that seems balanced, intense, and thorough, though I don't take advantage of the sparring sessions as much as I should.
4:37 This is funnier when you consider the guy had his chin completely exposed yet he goes for the bicep. What they are doing is not a good way to practice any techniques, but at least going for the chin would've been better.
It takes two to tango. The fake instructor drives it....but....there's something really weird going on that first time the student gets hit and feels nothing, but decides "You know what? I'm gonna pretend this works, too!"
What's interesting is that there is truth to pressure points. Getting your funny bone hit. Having your brachial nerve struck by an overhand right. Taking a punch to the sternum. Somehow, it devolved into this shit.
Come on Rob take it easy on the “Defense Against the Dark Arts” guys 😂 I would die laughing if you threw in an “Avadakadabra” when he is twisting his wrist😂😂😂
It's a 50/50 thing....they learnt bollocks, and after a certain point figured out the nonsense and in an effort to prove that it's true knowingly bought into it and taught it...or something like that
The Dysentery Strike is actually one of the most hallowed and rare of techniques. Cultivating bacteria and parasites in your very chi takes masters of the art decades of intense dedication.
I was a karate teacher a long time. As I rose in rank and got to know people, I came to see that most them were full of crap. And most fed into one another and kept the bs fest going. When Karate became an industry, it started to really hit high levels. I am 62 now and see that it’s gotten no better.
I love this channel, I’m in martial arts, 65 years old, and fixing to test for my Black Belt. I’ve been in and out of martial arts my entire life. This is some of the stupidest stuff I’ve ever seen. 😎😜🥋🏋️♀️
I have to comment twice on this video. I am an ER Nurse by trade and when I was younger and dumber I was knocked out by a knee to my liver when I was training in kickboxing. it waws very odd experience because it was delayed. I became lightheaded and clammy. Then I dropped. Secondly, ACLS guidelines for CPR does not include sitting the victim up and giving them back blows.
Even if the “Ning” thing worked in real life, it would still be hilarious…I mean: “What’d you say to me bro!?! NING! (goes on to knock the guy out) 😂😂😂
Just looking at the elbow to the arm knockout and I'm left with this question: Why would you elbow the guy in the arm instead of in the face? I mean really the guys head is wide open. Hit him in the face with your elbow, definitely will cause serious damage, and most likely a knockout. So why wouldn't you just go for the wide open head shot?
I love how the "teachers" look at their students like "dude you are supposed to fall" and these then fall very theatrically. :D It is definitely the teachers fault. The students that stay probably do that because they do not want to admit to themselves they have wasted much time, they do not want to disappoint, etc.
I think this is more so a matter of responsibility rather than fault. Instructors in these situations lack integrity and are responsible for taking advantage of people who, for whatever reason, don't know any better.
I only have one question. At some point, somewhere, some of these “students” have to be put in a position to apply this “deadly art” and realize that it’s all bullshit (surely there is enough time to contemplate it while they are in a hospital after getting their shit pushed in sideways) 🤷🏻♂️
It seems that we as a society have a tendency to "find out who's at fault"... I think many times it's not so black and white and the fault may lie on both or all parties in a particular situation to varying extents based on the circumstances. We have a tendency to find out who's at fault so the blame can be placed on them but personally I think it is important to have discernment and to be willing to take responsibility for our part in things and to see clearly the other involved parties faults as well. In the case of martial arts frauds I would say that the teacher is obviously at fault and once a student recognizes the nonsense at the moment they decide to go along with it and also perpetuate it then they take on the responsibility to a degree. Even if a student knows that it's nonsense but isn't teaching they may still be perpetuating the bad teachings by encouraging others in the group or by playing along giving a false sense of reality to those who may not know it's nonsense yet. Sorry for such a long post regarding my response and I hope it all makes sense.
Those leg punch knockouts are legit. You know you get hit in the head and your legs stop working. This is just the opposite you get hit in the leg and your head stops working. It's chi 😂
Students should demand authentic instruction and actual pressure testing of taught techniques, or else they are likely subscribing to a power fantasy short cut. I mean, you could blame the frauds out there for anything they want to sell you, but frauds will always be there. It’s up to the buyer to not be dumb enough to fall for it and demand real proof of product.
When considering why students tend to perpetuate this nonsense, we should think of the expression; "It is easier to fool some one than convince them they were fooled"
Hilariously, pressure points can be very dramatic, and they're really easy to learn. Squeezing the pressure points in the ankles genuinely will drop someone to the floor. There's no real application, of course, but it looks spectacular. I'm astonished that none of these guys use them.
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If you haven't seen him already, Steve Demasco runs a TON of mcdojos in the New England area. They don't spar because their techniques are "too deadly". His claims and credentials are wild. I would love to see you research and do a breakdown video of him. Keep up the great work!
The bizarre thing is when the guy does the elbow to arm ko, he could just have blocked the first strike and gone straight for an elbow to the face, faster, and more likely to get you a ko.
@@learntooilpaint but then he couldn't have hit the spleen 3 spot
Ahhhhhh-CHOOO! Dude sneezes and the room turns into a Jim Jones party!😂
"I'm sure on some planet your style is quite impressive, but your weak link is... this is Earth." - Kung Pow
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Funny movie!
I prefer red peppers in mine.
I heard theyre making another one.
Perfect.
The baffling thing to me, is not the "instructors", it's the students who play along 🤣😂
Maybe the "student " is paid or remunerated in some way? Recall the promoters of the "beetles" paid actresses to pretend to faint at their shows...
Yeah, they break fall and act knocked out.
I'm not convinced they are consciously, cynically acting out the KO like stuntmen. They are emotionally invested in believing in this stuff, they WANT it to be real. After all, they want to be able to master it themselves.
The technique is a placebo, but they convince themselves that when hit on a certain point, they will fall down and 'feel' groggy. Also it seems that the 'master' says in advance what the effect of the strike will be, so the true believing student will react in the 'correct' way.
It's sometimes referred to as "active compliance". There's some degree of it in every martial art no matter how legitimate. This is what it looks like in the extreme
@@kingswing00 whats the active compliance part of boxing or wrestling?
The slaps to revive the guys probably does more damage than the initial technique lol😂
Amen, bro.! 😂
A sure sign of a McDojo: Size A10 short sleeve gi.
Where do they get those short sleeve, patch covered, lightweight gis from? I need one for our next Halloween open mat.
Its earned through years & years of Jui- Mitsu-bish on and off the mats. You wouldn't be able to handle the program, PAL.
These look like masters in bulshito.
You forgot the belt that's tied in a way it looks like the McDonalds arches hahaha
The teacher is at fault and once the student falls for the BS they are now part of the cycle.
They wouldn't be teachers without students.
Having been married and divorced twice, I find it hard to blame someone for being gullible.
✋🏼 Right here...
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OMG, "He drops like a sack of fraudulent potatoes" just killed me. 🤣
I went to the excel martial arts RUclips page and comments are turned off on all of their videos.
I'm torn. Watching those videos sounds hilarious, but these guys might do serious damage to my mental health. Heck, I might even laugh so hard that I have an asthma attack. Their martial powers are clearly formidable to hurt me like this.
Don’t let the strike fool you, the energy came from the guy’s halitosis.😂
You discovered the secret of the no brush KO.
You halitosis is obsolete, our chi powers comes from the hallelujah
Agreed. And you almost described how real martial arts work: "Don't let the fool strike you" :D
Ahh, Master Ken. What a guy. How I love good satire.
Did you notice how at 3:05 when he says "chu" there's a pause for a second while the patsy decides whether that's his cue to go limp, or if he's supposed to wait for the next "chu"?
He knows Mr. Satan's delayed reaction elbow. He's ready for Majin Buu.
I can't believe you made this video...these guys are killers, and I'm sure they're not going to take these insults lying down. Not while there's a buffet open.
Yeah, your life could be in danger right after supper.
I''M so down when I see the baby burping revival technique. Such a classic move.
How any of this stuff still circulates in the age of MMA being everywhere blows my mind. In the 80s we all believed in jump kicks, Dim Mak, and noses being pushed into brains because we were dummies who didn't know better. This new generation sees what happens on tv at the highest level. They have no excuses for being worse dummies.
Im old enough to remember pre-ufc and nobody believed in Dim Mak. But i remember kids in middle school talking about the brain nose. I used to ask, "Why does that never happen to pro boxers?" Now i do believe that fancy kicks can work. Not for me, but ive seen guys do some showy stuff in mma.
@@rticle15, I truly believe if I’m watching for a punch and the guy kicks me, I know it is going to hurt me real bad. However, what I don’t understand is when the guy spins in a complete circle to throw a full power kick, how the hell does his foot hit anyone.???? You turn your back on me then I either jump back and you miss, OR I jump forward and you hit the ground.
It was ridiculous the amount of bullshit story’s that would circulate about martial arts in the 80’s, there’s no excuse nowadays with MMA being a major sport you can watch at anytime for believing any of this crazy crap these frauds are pushing.
They don't teach that rubbish to martial artists, they teach it to people who don't fight,won't fight,they just want to belong and believe because mediocrity is unbearable. The masters of Woo Woo know this and deliver the fantasy where we can all be kick ass Harry Potters. If if fills a hole in their lives I have no problem, it's only a problem if they find themselves in conflict and believe they have skills they don't but that is unlikely for most.
It's a problem because the general public doesn't REALLY know what to look for or what they're looking at. It takes some searching, and then searching again (known as RE-searching!) to find out what's what. And educating the public when it's so easy to find bad information is an uphill (but very worthwhile) battle.
I’d like to interview the demonstration assistants and see if they really believe they’ve been knocked out.
You can tell those two are just bursting with chi. They're overflowing with it. They've taken in so much chi they can barely move.
They're definitely full of it
They should try fatfree Chi
The half moons on their fingernails must be full moons with all that chi.
Every time I see these videos it makes me realize how easy this would all be if I was just a much less honest person. Not only does it feel so dishonest to open schools like this but even more so when you have people believe they are learning potential self defense and combat skills.
Your basic McDojo is almost as bad. I worked as an assistant instructor at one of those strip mall karate schools. You know the kind that REALLY play up all the character building, and self esteem aspects of martial arts training, the ones that tell you your kid will be a black belt in three years, two if you pay for the “special accelerated class”, and teach a hybrid of several styles and were designed by a 40 year old dude with a ponytail. Yeah one of those places. I didn’t last three months. I was a higher rank (in a legitimate martial art) than the lead instructor, I’d been training more than twice as long as him, and I had fought competitively, but he was more “kid friendly” so he got the better paying job.
I ended up leaving after talking with the school manager (someone with zero martial arts background) and him saying I was too hard on the kids. He told me they never wanted a kid to quit because it was “too hard” or “not fun”. You know what I did which led to this conversation? I made kids perform techniques again if they didn’t do it right the first time. I also had kids do body conditioning exercises when they would do something poorly. Like as an example: a kid would be doing one of their made up “self defense forms” and would forget part of it, so I’d have them do five pushups before trying again. The kids loved it, I would have a couple of kids in a row do something wrong and have to do a burpee, then the next kid would do the thing right and still want to do a burpee. But the parents thought I was “too hard on their baby” and complained. Man those parents would have lost their minds if I trained those kids anything close to how mine went, we were literally hit with sticks during training.
@@davidwate6057 Why ...were you hit with a stick? Lol. /Just some drunken brawler loser
I think it’s like 80/20 Instuctor/student fault. On a side note, i love the Punch Out picture on your wall!
There are a few schools like that all over Oklahoma. They teach techniques that will never work and convince their students that it will.
Both the teacher and student that goes along with the deception and lies are both guilty of following the devil.
I think one of the most telling things I've seen was the "break fall". I mean, all those guys are absolute frauds but the facts that they all breakfall as they go down... every... last... on of them... is amazing.
Loving the back pat... hope the paramedics know this if I ever need it...
Lol, I commented before I got to the EMT technique part 😂😂😂
"Ning is a Killing Word." - Paul Muad'dib Atreides.
They practice the Prana Bindu. Or, rather, Prana Bullshit.
I gently bump so many random parts of me during the day I'm surprised I'm not mostly unconscious
😂😂😂😂
The teacher is at fault, for initiating the con, but the student(s) will also bear the blame once the truth has been revealed and they continue to attend and/or be part of the con. I love your work and the results that come from your dedication. Lets keep exposing these “FlopDoJos”😂
This is a bit lengthy, but here it goes. I TOTALLY agree, this is totally off and a prime example of a bad style, and Dillman and Pantazi are insane. The explanation for the odd labels (liver 32, groin 69, etc.: I made these up, as I don’t know them all) is that they are labels in traditional Chinese medicine, particularly acupuncture. Interestingly, studies show that acupuncture’s rates of success for post-op treatment is 98%, whereas morphine is only 78%, especially by altering pain-perception, being associated with fast and deep analgesic affects. Whereas Count Dante and all that junk is akin to Dillman and Pantazi (totally insane, and not in a good way), and whereas there are a metric-ton of scammers and incompetents in KungFu, it boils down to this: there are some legitimate version which teach, “pressure-points,” according to acupuncture and acupressure (which are good and operable, according to studies), and some teach it as striking anatomical-weak points, nerves, or blood-vessels: these legitimate versions don’t teach that you can do magical knockouts, but they do teach targeting. For example, they say that you can inflict some pain and maybe knock the breath out of somebody by hitting them in the solar-plexus (boxing and Muay-Thai teach that); that you can make someone light-headed with a firm strike to the neck, where the carotid-artery is (which is medically-sound), or that you MIGHT cause a delayed-death by striking the PMI (point of maximum-impulse, which is medically-documented and which some football players who were struck there experienced a delayed passing afterward, linked to that). Other aspects of proper anatomical-targeting could be as simple as gouging the eyes, hitting someone in the throat to temporarily gag them and back them off, delivering a hammerfist to the collarbone to break it, or to knee someone in the groin. If someone teaches pain-compliance or leverage from pressure-points as a supplement to other techniques, maybe hear them out and put it to the test against trusting opponents; however, if someone teaches that you will knock someone out by punching their thigh or tickling their arm or rubbing your thumb across their head, don’t even give it the benefit of the doubt, because that’s just crazy. Now, is all of that combatively-efficable on its own?-no. That’s why any combatively-legitimate version of KungFu will also teach proper footwork, proper defense, sparing with resisting opponents, proper body-conditioning, exercise, and maybe dabble in other styles a bit (and definitely encourage it). I’m a Muay-Thai practitioner for a couple of years now, and I’m not proficient in any type of KungFu yet: with that being said, I have looked into it and researched it heavily, and I did take some lessons with some folks for a week or two, and it was solid enough. I guess I got lucky finding a good group who weren’t scammers or crazy (and even then, they did have some wacky moves and very-unusual theories that I DEFINITELY DID NOT jive with, but a few bad moves amid a lot of good ones does not make a bad art: even traditional Muay-Thai’s got some high-risk-high-reward moves, after all, such as the crocodile-tail (spinning heel-kick). I simply wanted to put this here to provide a bit of helpful context in a non-pretentious and sane way, and to show that, whereas a lot of KungFu is malarkey for the stage or for scammers or for weird cults, there are legitimate versions of KungFu that are simply a different art with its own set of pro’s and con’s, just like every other art-maybe a bit more rare in the midst of all the KungFu-scammers, but good KungFu does still exist out there, if you take your time and research it carefully (even then, don’t be surprised if there’s a tad bit of wackiness in it, but take the overall-good and leave the slight-bad). The same goes for Systema (Systema Ryabko and Systema Vasiliev are totally-wacky, but Systema Kadochnikov and Systema I.Z.V.O.R. do contain some good content amid their own wackiness, as well, though it’s definitely still a bit too off for me). As for sound-based or no-touch, “knockouts”-run if you see anyone teaching that, because it’s bullshido.
Nice post and I did get through it all! Lol. I am a lifelong martial artist started in 1967 and still at it daily, my journey has evolved through time, I was a fighter and competed often 70’s-90’s I watched martial arts in America evolve from the “Blood and guts”era of the 70’s to the flippy kick no contact sport karate is now, also watched MMA evolve, I have both trained fighters and do Chigung, I am blessed to train with some amazing people in my 57 years, I have been exposed to many different philosophies thanks to an instructor with an open mind, jiujitsu is built to our art as one of 5 components, but we’re getting it 2 generation down from the founders and was a hole in our training so in 1991 he connected with Rickson Gracie for more direct training and up our ground game, some of us continued on our JJ journey, some did not.
But if anyone has ever been out in a proper Zlock or goose neck lock they become a “traditional”martial art believer, I bounced, and worked loss prevention and made those work many times, as have my countless LEO students.
As for the George Dillmam knockout stuff, we also did a few seminars with one of Dilmansguys and he tried to put a lock and or knock out one of my students 6’8,
we fought him at 205 Sorry, not sorry to say it didn’t work.😬😉
@@kajukine That sounds AWESOME, man: Jiujitsu rocks! I’m glad to hear you’ve got an open-minded instructor who, nonetheless, looks to the merit of techniques and doesn’t just fall for anything: that balance can be rare, but it’s pure-gold, when you find it! I am not proficient in Jiujitsu, but I hope to be one day, and, until then, I respect it a lot. Jiujitsu’s got such a cool and rich history! Lol, I love what you said about, if you get subjected to a legit version of a traditional martial-art, you readily become a believer that legitimate versions are out there to this day! 😂 I audibly chuckled, and couldn’t agree more!
Man im always sad that one day this channel will have nothing to show anymore.... crazy you still find these people loll love it fucking hilarious
Currently have a back log of at least 3 more years for sure
@@McDojoLife this is crazy... how can there be so many of them? Holy cow...
I thought that first thigh punch was actually a punch to the groin. If someone punched me in the cajones like that, my reaction would be worse than the students.
There is/was a Kyusho school near me years ago (like 2 decades ago). The owner was deaf and one of Dillman’s main students. I remember he had some old video of him utilizing sign language to move into a Kyusho move - like it was some sort of transitional step that he invented.
I initially wanted to email him about his BS but opted not to. He was disabled and it seemed like he believed what he was teaching which was sad. I just felt sorry for him and I think he thought he was just teaching proper self defense.
Let's not go crazy.
They don't all break fall. They all try to break fall.
Around 25 years ago I trained at this dojo when it was LCMA. I trained with Cody Robyn for years(under Steve Schatvet, who isn't mentioned here...) and always knew him to be an excellent martial artist, but I wasn't fed any of that stuff in the videos. The instructor at the time used to talk about some stuff like this, but I was never shown any of it. I don't even know how to process what I saw here...
Process it as u trained under a fraud.
Any there any Mcdojos that teach defence against chi attacks?
I'm looking for a complete Mcdojo system. Any recommendations?
For $235 I will send you my booklet.
Rob ... I used to watch your offerings, only when they randomly rolled into my internet youtube feed. But now I watch more regularly, as I have cvome to realise and appreciate that you are doing very important work. Well done Rob ... I am very impressed by your wonderful efforts. Thank you for shedding light upon something that is so cancerous and damaging to our society. Critical thinking is crucial to effective living; and thr work you do propogates precisely this. You are a good man. Best wishes , kudos and deep respect from 'Downunder'. If ever you journey to Australia, you have free training at my academy. - JBW
Thank you for the support. Truly appreciated
They neeeeeed to make this a UFC Tournament! Dim Mak MC Dojo Masters against Each other
I´d Pay for that!!
That is some delightful if unintentional Three Stooges-level physical comedy.
As to the question: Like a wise man once said, 'No bad students, only bad teachers.' But they kind of lose that protection when they themselves become the bad teachers.
“If do right, no can defense.”
5:16 now all I can imagine is “new achievement unlocked*” some young and upcoming martial artist is going to make the elbow to the bicep knockout his Mt.Everest
Of course they can knock me out with sound. I will pass out from laughing to long. Lol 😂
I mean, an elbow strike to the bicep is a good way to stop them wanting to punch with that hand, IF you actually and it AND they don't have conditioning from martial arts training, weight lifting, callisthenics, and so on... definitely won't knock them out, but they will feel it. I also wouldn't rely on it as a finishing move.
Rob I love your sarcasm & humor. Keep up your great work exposing these frauds.
The last time Dillman knocked someone out with his mouth was at truck stop just off of I-5.
Just joined the page!! Great video! The blame is on both student and teacher. I don't know how one could have honestly sat thru the entire first class and thought to themselves "this guy is too legit!" 😂 maybe if he actually made the one guy poop himself I would have totally paid for a full membership with a parking space and all... 😂😂
Glad you covered these guys!
Subbed. Somebody should really tell all the Muay Thai fighters that they are risking their lives LOL those leg punches look so deadly
Finally! I was getting tired of watching stuff about Dillman, Ashida Kim, and the Yellow Bamboo people 🤣
i swear to whatever mafugging god the „niiiing“ gets me ereytime i hear ir from dillman😂😂😂
Ooh sound attacks, Just like the knights who say nee!
I'm just sad that there are no places to learn this stuff near me. I'm stuck learning BJJ. Let me tell you it's hard for a beginner like me to do a one touch knockout when I'm stuck in a heavy weights side control. I've tried yelling "Save me Dillman, save me" and "the power of ashida kim compels you" to escape, but so far nothing has worked. I'm never going to be a one touch knockout ninja master at this rate.
😂😂
You're in luck.
For $69.99 I'll send you my secret no touch moves.
“The power of Ashida Kim compels you!”😏 I promise you I’m using that in the next week. 2 people will get it. But it will be worth it.
The guy follows the George Dillman "eat-'till-you-explode" training regimen.😀😀😀
I don’t know which one to try first in my next street fight the powerful elbow to the bicep or the double hammer fist to the thigh!!
Love the content, please continue to keep them coming.
Great as always. Curious what you think of Larkin's Target Focus Training. I'm skeptical and not considering it, but wonder. Some of the info seems useful, but the methods? I'm happy with a Krav Maga center near me that seems balanced, intense, and thorough, though I don't take advantage of the sparring sessions as much as I should.
I love how in shape these practitioners are in
I love how they always hit harder when they try to get them conscious than when they knock them out
4:37 This is funnier when you consider the guy had his chin completely exposed yet he goes for the bicep. What they are doing is not a good way to practice any techniques, but at least going for the chin would've been better.
They don't want to accidentally actually hurt each other! That would get in the way of demonstrating their chi-power techniques.
It takes two to tango. The fake instructor drives it....but....there's something really weird going on that first time the student gets hit and feels nothing, but decides "You know what? I'm gonna pretend this works, too!"
Brilliant 😂I want to learn the dysentary strike 🥴🤪😱
What would my life be without the Kyushu and systema 😂😂😂. And my favorite technique is the Katsu also, so hilarious. 🤣
I like chicken katsu.
What's interesting is that there is truth to pressure points.
Getting your funny bone hit. Having your brachial nerve struck by an overhand right. Taking a punch to the sternum.
Somehow, it devolved into this shit.
Come on Rob take it easy on the “Defense Against the Dark Arts” guys 😂 I would die laughing if you threw in an “Avadakadabra” when he is twisting his wrist😂😂😂
"Choo !" and "ning !" are infinitely more terrifying than the Bogeyman's "boo !!"
It's a 50/50 thing....they learnt bollocks, and after a certain point figured out the nonsense and in an effort to prove that it's true knowingly bought into it and taught it...or something like that
5:30 epic reasoning battle with yourself. Love how the ‘other guy’ is in a yellow tinted world.
I think if you know it's garbage,and you decide to teach people that garbage...YOU are to blame.
i tried to check out these guys YT page but comments were turned off on their videos with 80-ish views.... wonder why
The Dysentery Strike is actually one of the most hallowed and rare of techniques. Cultivating bacteria and parasites in your very chi takes masters of the art decades of intense dedication.
I was a karate teacher a long time. As I rose in rank and got to know people, I came to see that most them were full of crap. And most fed into one another and kept the bs fest going. When Karate became an industry, it started to really hit high levels.
I am 62 now and see that it’s gotten no better.
I love this channel, I’m in martial arts, 65 years old, and fixing to test for my Black Belt. I’ve been in and out of martial arts my entire life. This is some of the stupidest stuff I’ve ever seen. 😎😜🥋🏋️♀️
The first uke looked like Netanyahu. Faking it here too. 😆 🤣 😂
I have to comment twice on this video. I am an ER Nurse by trade and when I was younger and dumber I was knocked out by a knee to my liver when I was training in kickboxing. it waws very odd experience because it was delayed. I became lightheaded and clammy. Then I dropped. Secondly, ACLS guidelines for CPR does not include sitting the victim up and giving them back blows.
The strike into the shoulder peck area can be very painful, and the clavicle too, but an instant knockout is bogus.
Even if the “Ning” thing worked in real life, it would still be hilarious…I mean:
“What’d you say to me bro!?! NING! (goes on to knock the guy out)
😂😂😂
Came from reddit bro, this shit is hilarious 😂 just subscribed.
I nearly passed out once because someone trapped the nerve in my elbow while training, but the only noise was the expletives out of my mouth.
Just looking at the elbow to the arm knockout and I'm left with this question: Why would you elbow the guy in the arm instead of in the face? I mean really the guys head is wide open. Hit him in the face with your elbow, definitely will cause serious damage, and most likely a knockout. So why wouldn't you just go for the wide open head shot?
I love how the "teachers" look at their students like "dude you are supposed to fall" and these then fall very theatrically. :D It is definitely the teachers fault. The students that stay probably do that because they do not want to admit to themselves they have wasted much time, they do not want to disappoint, etc.
I wanna see Master Ken takes on these guys at some point
Such baffling techniques. I’m tempted to practice by hitting my own arm and giving myself dysentery lol.
As soon as you see Criss Cross Recover Sauce, you know it's going to be McFunny as McFuck
hears "... in Massachusetts."
Me, a Bostonian: "Oh shit, lets go!"
I think this is more so a matter of responsibility rather than fault.
Instructors in these situations lack integrity and are responsible for taking advantage of people who, for whatever reason, don't know any better.
My answer is: Compassion for the conned contempt for conman (person)
I only have one question. At some point, somewhere, some of these “students” have to be put in a position to apply this “deadly art” and realize that it’s all bullshit (surely there is enough time to contemplate it while they are in a hospital after getting their shit pushed in sideways) 🤷🏻♂️
I know 2 of them that had to 1 in the parking lot of a Wal-mart and the other in Airport both of them drop the attack just like you see here.
Forrest Gump would say..."Stupid is as stupid does"!!!
I love the back slap to revive the knockout 😂
It seems that we as a society have a tendency to "find out who's at fault"... I think many times it's not so black and white and the fault may lie on both or all parties in a particular situation to varying extents based on the circumstances. We have a tendency to find out who's at fault so the blame can be placed on them but personally I think it is important to have discernment and to be willing to take responsibility for our part in things and to see clearly the other involved parties faults as well. In the case of martial arts frauds I would say that the teacher is obviously at fault and once a student recognizes the nonsense at the moment they decide to go along with it and also perpetuate it then they take on the responsibility to a degree. Even if a student knows that it's nonsense but isn't teaching they may still be perpetuating the bad teachings by encouraging others in the group or by playing along giving a false sense of reality to those who may not know it's nonsense yet. Sorry for such a long post regarding my response and I hope it all makes sense.
I remember back in the 1980s here in Orlando schools gave out black belts like candy 🍭
Its both instructors is selling it but it is there fault for falling for it
When I used to teach I did my best to eliminate the 🐂💩.
takes a lot of balls to keep this kind of nonsense rolling in the 21st century.
Those leg punch knockouts are legit. You know you get hit in the head and your legs stop working. This is just the opposite you get hit in the leg and your head stops working. It's chi 😂
Students should demand authentic instruction and actual pressure testing of taught techniques, or else they are likely subscribing to a power fantasy short cut. I mean, you could blame the frauds out there for anything they want to sell you, but frauds will always be there. It’s up to the buyer to not be dumb enough to fall for it and demand real proof of product.
This is an excellent example of phoney practitioners , good video 👍
With how many pressure points the body apparently has, its amazing people arent dropping all over the place!
When considering why students tend to perpetuate this nonsense, we should think of the expression; "It is easier to fool some one than convince them they were fooled"
Anytime I see someone using pressure points and they have someone sitting on the floor while they hit their back or something; I just shake my head 😆
Hilariously, pressure points can be very dramatic, and they're really easy to learn. Squeezing the pressure points in the ankles genuinely will drop someone to the floor. There's no real application, of course, but it looks spectacular. I'm astonished that none of these guys use them.
Do they not realise how redicilous it looks like what they are doing?